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I think the PLA in China are the most

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advanced in their testing they're in the

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second phase of their clinical trial so

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such a they have a vaccine that they

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know is safe and they are there in a

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large second placed wrong about 500

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people in it

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which they're trying to work out whether

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it's efficacious and if it is then

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they'll go into a production a mass

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production phase and larger trials have

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a large number of people but it's very

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unlikely our government will buy that

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vaccine from China or accept it from

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China it is in a feature quite a

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negative feature of our response in

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Britain too this has been ignoring a lot

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of the lessons of other countries China

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but not only China also Korea on the

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basis that our science is superior but

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there's an underlying business reason as

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well that if we our large pharmaceutical

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industries produce a vaccine which is

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viable they'll make great deal of money

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domestically and internationally from

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from selling it so I think vaccines will

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be available I think the Chinese are

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likely to be there first but many other

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people around the world will produce

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probably independently and will probably

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have several vaccines on the market I

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imagine towards the end of this year but

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these things have an extended timeline

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and its heart in down exactly when it

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will be I have seen people for the

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reason that you know medicine the

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selling of medicines the pharmaceutical

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industry is such a multi-billion dollar

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industry people very distrustful and

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there's increasing kind of them feeling

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of an NT VAX campaign even around this

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issue but but I must stress that you

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know vaccines are effective that vaccine

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will protect millions of people who

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haven't had the corona virus but I think

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there's no way out of the fact that we

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need much better basic health measures

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of adequate testing adequate contact

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tracing and keeping those who have the

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virus protected and isolated from the

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community who don't put me down for a

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Chinese vaccine and include me in the

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demand for the nationalization of the

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pharmaceutical industry

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