1 00:00:00,030 --> 00:00:04,140 and I think you're right pierced armor 2 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:06,150 is the horse to be isn't he yeah I tell 3 00:00:04,140 --> 00:00:09,330 the viewers and listeners especially 4 00:00:06,150 --> 00:00:11,429 those abroad more about Kirsten ah well 5 00:00:09,330 --> 00:00:15,120 case Dahmer is is widely regarded as one 6 00:00:11,429 --> 00:00:16,890 of the preeminent legal minds in this 7 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:18,480 country is obviously been knighted and 8 00:00:16,890 --> 00:00:21,240 he's been silenced groans long 9 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:22,650 absolutely he's regarded as a formidable 10 00:00:21,240 --> 00:00:23,850 intellectual if you take his politics 11 00:00:22,650 --> 00:00:26,279 out of it he is regarded as an 12 00:00:23,850 --> 00:00:27,810 intelligent bloke and and he is seen to 13 00:00:26,279 --> 00:00:29,550 be someone who is probably the more 14 00:00:27,810 --> 00:00:31,949 statesman like out of the other labor 15 00:00:29,550 --> 00:00:33,600 candidates he is naturally more central 16 00:00:31,949 --> 00:00:36,120 of what we're hearing today is that if 17 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:38,040 he were to emerge as the new labor 18 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:40,170 leader they were trying to do a momentum 19 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,520 but with more centrist and ie try and 20 00:00:40,170 --> 00:00:43,290 flood that labor membership back with 21 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:45,450 people more aligned to a central 22 00:00:43,290 --> 00:00:47,700 political outlook and drag it away from 23 00:00:45,450 --> 00:00:49,410 that kind of far left as it were element 24 00:00:47,700 --> 00:00:51,000 so I think he would look to remodel a 25 00:00:49,410 --> 00:00:52,440 party out of the candidates that I'm 26 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,120 seeing in my personal opinion he's the 27 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,649 one who could give Boris Johnson the 28 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:58,829 best room for his money a national 29 00:00:55,649 --> 00:01:01,770 election he'd played the QC forensic 30 00:00:58,829 --> 00:01:03,180 yeah repetitive weirdly bordering Boris 31 00:01:01,770 --> 00:01:05,430 because he's not over the granular 32 00:01:03,180 --> 00:01:11,040 detail Boris Johnson well quite Boris 33 00:01:05,430 --> 00:01:12,320 Johnson the bluster the Latin the and 34 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:16,350 the japes 35 00:01:12,320 --> 00:01:19,080 span Marwood try to be boiling steadily 36 00:01:16,350 --> 00:01:20,790 at him in the hope of getting wickets 37 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:23,340 yeah and you would have thought as well 38 00:01:20,790 --> 00:01:24,960 that maybe cast armor could entice back 39 00:01:23,340 --> 00:01:26,400 in some of the people who have left the 40 00:01:24,960 --> 00:01:28,229 Labour Party because they didn't like 41 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:30,000 Jeremy Corbyn I think as well when you 42 00:01:28,229 --> 00:01:31,020 look to some of the scandals whether or 43 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,880 not they should have been scandals up 44 00:01:31,020 --> 00:01:34,170 for debate but the anti-semitism issue 45 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,299 let's say that was gripping the labour 46 00:01:34,170 --> 00:01:37,979 party I don't think it's appealing to be 47 00:01:36,299 --> 00:01:40,530 ad it has yeah 48 00:01:37,979 --> 00:01:43,170 anti-semitism is no longer a problem in 49 00:01:40,530 --> 00:01:45,329 Britain it's all for shock but my point 50 00:01:43,170 --> 00:01:46,920 is just in a political sense I think 51 00:01:45,329 --> 00:01:48,780 Kirsten would have found a way to put 52 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,729 that to bed and as opposed to the two 53 00:01:48,780 --> 00:01:52,560 and a bit years that Jeremy Corbyn let 54 00:01:50,729 --> 00:01:53,970 it in a way dragged on for and so 55 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,619 there's something in that I think Boris 56 00:01:53,970 --> 00:01:57,659 Johnson probably is sitting there 57 00:01:55,619 --> 00:01:59,340 thinking Kirsten Murray's his he's the 58 00:01:57,659 --> 00:02:01,960 one that Boris but it's definitely not 59 00:01:59,340 --> 00:02:04,020 Rebecca long Bailey 60 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,020 you