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Ze Zack Goldsmith is the Conservative

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candidate for London Mayor and we hope

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to speak to him later in the show. But

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now we're joined by another man who

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wants to lead the UK's capital. It's the

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respect party leader and former MP

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George Galloway. Welcome back to the

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Daily Politics. Would Zach Goldmith make

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a good mayor of London? Well, housing

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and transport are not issues that have

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ever had to trouble him in his own life.

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Of course, he is the heir to a 700

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million pound personal fortune. If we

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want another blonde oldian to as mayor,

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you couldn't get a better one. He's a

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very honorable uh person, a principled

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person. Uh but as uh Tim just said, he's

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not Boris Johnson. Labour's candidate is

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not Ken Livingston. And that's the

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problem for both of those parties,

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right? I mean, you talk about Zach

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Goldsmith's background, but why should

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that be of particular interest to

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Londoners? I mean, it won't necessarily

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stop him winning. I I think that it will

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uh stop him winning. Didn't stop Boris.

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It didn't, but two in a row uh would be

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one old Etonian too many. I think uh he

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doesn't know the lives of ordinary

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Londoners. He is uh a gilded youth, a

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great Gatsby figure, albeit a rather

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more pleasant one. So I I I think that

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the uh Tory I mean the fact that only

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6,000 Tories even voted for him in this

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election 6 it was a small it was a small

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number of election but I mean in terms

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of policy differences where would you

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sort of draw policy differences between

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you and Zach Goldsmith well many of his

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friends are a cause of London's housing

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problem the gentrification of some areas

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super gentrification the building of uh

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very expensive of houses often times not

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even lived in. But that's not his

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policy, is it, George? It is. I'm I'm

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going to compulsorily purchase any house

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that isn't lived in for a year. I'm

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going to insist that half of all new

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build in London are uh our social

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housing at 50% of the average rents in

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the area. Now, that's a clear cut across

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the interests of the very richest people

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that Zach Goldmith represents. Now you

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have talked about them being uh sort of

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a light version if you like of both Ken

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Livingston and Boris Johnson, Sadi Khn

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and Zack Goldsmith, but really it is

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going to be a contest between those two.

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You're not going to get a look in. Well,

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I wouldn't be here on your show if that

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were true. Uh well, we may be helping

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you by uh you being here getting some

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publicity. I know you've always tried to

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be helpful, but the the the the reality

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is that London has had two mayors. Both

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of them have been larger than life

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figures, big personalities, people that

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are nationally known, even

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internationally known. I'm afraid

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neither the Tory nor the Labor candidate

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fit that bill. Right. I put you it's

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going to be difficult for you to give

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them a run for their money. Well, once

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the hustings begin, the television

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debates, radio debates in in town halls

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across all London's burs, I think you'll

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see one candidate shining more than

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others. And it won't be Zach and it

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won't be sad. Right. Well, let's turn to

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Sadi Khn because in a way he's going to

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squeeze you out because he's on the left

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of the Labour Party. Um, and he will be

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sucking up most of the support that you

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might have got. I don't know where you

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get that that he's on the left of the

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party's first act when uh chosen was to

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distance himself as far as he possibly

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could with Jeremy Corbin. He attacked

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Jeremy Corbin's economic policy as

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ridiculous. He said that Jeremy Corbyn

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had encouraged terrorism in London by

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his stand on Ireland and on Middle East

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issues. Uh he has gone out of his way to

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try and say to people, I'm not Ken

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Livingston and I'm definitely not Jeremy

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Corbin. So he has alienated the

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Corbinista wave if you like. And are you

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saying he couldn't get elected without

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that Corbinista wave? I mean let's have

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a look at some of the things you have

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said about Sadi Khan because these are

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tweets um that you have put out

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recently. If I am mayor, the city will

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pay every penny of the Robin Hood tax.

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My opponent Sadi Khan has pledged

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himself to be the sheriff of Nottingham.

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You did also stand up this week. Well,

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these are your tweets in response. I

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support Jeremy Corbyn. This is you and

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his policies. Sadi Khan supports Corbyn

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as the rope supports the hanging man.

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And you also said Sadique Khan MP is a

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rancid traitor to his faith Islam and to

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any conceivable definition of labor.

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That's a bit harsh. That last one is a

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bit harsh. Let me take that back. Do you

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take that back? Let me publicly take

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that back. Right. Yes. I've forgotten I

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I ever said that. I must have been

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particularly Well, George Galloway, I'm

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really glad you we've reminded you. But

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I mean, but even so, you've taken it

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back, but a rancid traitor to his faith.

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What was that based on? I can't even

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recall it. Uh it must have been in

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relation to Palestine, his equation of

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support for the Palestinians with

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support for terrorism. This But it

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didn't warrant that sort of. And you

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don't think it's true? No, I take it

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back. I humbly apologize, Milot. Uh but

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the other but the other

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points unarguable. Yeah. Well, he is

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supporting Jeremy Corbin as the rope

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supports the hanging man because he

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hopes for Jeremy Corbin's failure. He

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didn't vote for him. He said he

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nominated him. He said he wouldn't serve

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in his shadow cabinet. He said his

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economic policy is ridiculous. He said

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his foreign policy is encouraging

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terrorism. Uh and so on. He he is as far

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from Jeremy Corbin as it's possible to

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be. And but does that matter? But does

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that matter with the Labor um or

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leftleaning electorate in London?

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ahead. He did very well in that in that

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Labor contest. Um he does represent for

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many people, not in your mind, the sorts

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of policies that have obviously gone

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down well with Labour supporters. Well,

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I think he will not attract votes that

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are sympathetic to Corbin. And his

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problem or Labour's problem is that he

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will not attract votes that Dame

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Baroness Tessa Jaw would have attracted.

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in your eyes. I would have uh looked

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forward to the very clear blue. So, this

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is sour grapes then, George Gallow.

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You're you're you're annoyed. You're

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annoyed at Sadique K because it does

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make your pitch harder. No, it would

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have if he hadn't attacked Corbin so

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vehemently with such venom as he did in

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the Mail on Sunday in the Jewish

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Chronicle uh just days after Jeremy's

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election. Right. But in a way that still

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doesn't change the fact that he is the

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the Labour candidate. He's distanced

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himself from Jeremy Corbyn. Londoners

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seem to quite like mavericks that

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distance themselves if you like from

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their leaders. And this will be about

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independent characters as you have said.

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So does it does it does it actually

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matter? If he was sitting here, most of

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your viewers would by now be asleep. The

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very last thing he is is a character. Uh

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Zack Goldsmith's more of a character.

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Boris Johnson, Ken Livingston were

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characters. Sadi Khan is a very boring

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man and I'm not sure that London wants a

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very boring Let's Let's just open this

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up to our guests. What say you? Well, he

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is a little bit dull, I have to tell

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you. I mean, I call him Mr. Mutter

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because it's very I've, you know,

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watched him in the comments for years

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and it's kind of discern what he's

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point is often very muddled. Um, so I

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think he is a little bit boring. He was

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he'd put on a pretty good show on Have I

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Got News for You. But the thing is he's

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driver. I think that will resonate with

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quite a few Londoners, but I think

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you're right. He's certainly not Ken

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Livingstone. He's not in the charisma

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league of those people. I try to imagine

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him stuck on the zip wire. This is this

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is my what I'm trying to do. I think all

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the candidates from that particular

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image that but the thing is you risk

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splitting the left and in the end you

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have said you are delighted that Jeremy

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Corbyn has won the Labour leadership. Do

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you think Jeremy Corbyn would rather

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have you then as the Labour candidate

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rather than Sadique Car in his heart? Uh

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I'm sure he would. Can you see into his

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heart? Has he actually said that? We sat

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in this very room uh together just a few

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weeks ago and I won't breach the uh

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terms of the of the conversation. He's

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never stopped you before George

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Galloway. Sure. He's a lifelong friend

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of mine. I wouldn't do that. But I think

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he knows that my politics are a lot

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closer to his than Sadi Khan's. So why

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don't you rejoin the party? Well, the

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the the the point I wanted to make, if I

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may, to your last question, it's a

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preferential vote. So anybody who votes

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for me can vote for Sadi Khan with their

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number two vote. And if he come be very

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grateful. Well, well, he might he might

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in the end. What about the rejoining the

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party? Because you said you would. You

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said you'd be there like a shot if

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Jeremy Corbyn wins. Well, there he is.

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Why aren't you in the party? No. What I

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did say uh and I I could quote it to you

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verbatim if you'd like. Is that my

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expulsion my expulsion needs to be

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received because that effectively would

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reinstate me into the Labor Party. I'm

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not going to go cap in hand to uh a

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party that shouldn't have expelled me in

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the first place. I'll forgo the apology,

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even forgo my legal cost. Are you

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listening Labour Party? Because as I

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understand it, they don't want they

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don't want you but they don't want you

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back. Well, you you misunderstand that

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then if that's what is that really true?

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I mean, I admit admit this is a reported

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comment, but apparently uh George

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Galloway, this is a Labour spokesman,

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said has not applied to rejoin the

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Labour Party, hence your not wanting to

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go cap in hand and he will not be

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receiving an invitation. No, I I don't

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want an invitation. I don't want to

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rejoin the Labour Party. I want my

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expulsion to be rescended. Has Jeremy

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Corbyn said he'll do that? I I will ipso

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facto be a member of the Labour party

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that I tried very hard and Mr. Foot and

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Mr. Ben and Mr. Corbin were my character

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witnesses at my expulsion. So will you

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be expecting Jeremy Corbyn to do that

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for you? Uh I'm not expecting anything.

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I'm running for mayor of London. I'm

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doing quite well. Don't tell anybody. I

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won't. We'll keep it a secret. George

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Galloway. blanket.