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isala before Mr Blair and his

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mouthpieces that are still here and Mr

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Bush invaded and occupied them what a

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tangled weave a tangled web we have

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woven is abundantly clear to everyone

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watching this debate the mission creep

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hasn't even waited for the end of the

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debate the words on the motion are about

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bombing Iraq if there's a consensus in

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here that we're going to soon be bombing

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Syria the words don't mention boots on

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the ground but there's a consensus here

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that there will be boots on the ground

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the only question the only question

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being whose boots are

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they this debate has been characterized

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by members of parliament moving around

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imaginary armies the free Syrian Army is

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a fiction which has been in the receipt

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of of hundreds of millions of dollars

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huge hundreds of tons of weapons

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virtually all of which were taken from

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them by Al-Qaeda which is now mutated

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into

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ISO the Iraqi Army is the most

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expensively trained and most modernly

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equipped Army in history hundreds

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hundreds of billions of dollars have

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been expended on the Iraqi Army which

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run away leaving its equipment behind it

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Isel itself is an imaginary Army a a a

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former Defense secretary no less said we

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must bomb their bases they don't have

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any bases the territory they control is

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the size of Britain and yet there's only

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between 10 and 20,000 of them do the

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maths they don't concentrate as an army

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they don't live in bases and the only

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way a force of that size could

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successfully hold the territory that

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they hold is if they population which is

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acting as the water in which they are

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swimming and that population is

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quiescent because of Western policies

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and Western Invasion and occupation

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that's the truth of the matter is could

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not survive for 5 minutes if the tribes

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in the west of Iraq rose up against them

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I yes I

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will understand how appalled people will

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be to hear him say that women buried

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alive women buried alive women enslaved

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are quiescent in their persecution by

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these people what a total

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disgrace well they don't like it up them

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Mr Speaker they'd rather have they'd

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rather have they'd rather have an

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imaginary debate moving around imaginary

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armies Isel is a death cult it's a gang

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of terrorist murderers it's not an army

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and it's certainly not an army that's

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going to be destroyed by aerial

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bombardment Isel is able to rule the

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part of Iraq that it does because nobody

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in those parts has any confidence in the

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government in Baghdad a sectarian

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government helped into Power by bremmer

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and the deliberate sectarianization of

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Iraqi politics by the occupation

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authorities the government knows that

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that's why they pushed al- Malaki out

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even though he won the election by the

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way if we're talking about democracy

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they pushed them out because they knew

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that far too many people in isil

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occupied Iraq had no confidence in the

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government in Baghdad

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nobody has any confidence in the Army uh

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in emanating out of Baghdad so this will

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not be solved by bombing Mr Speaker

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we've been bombing Iraqis for a 100

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years 100 years we dropped the world's

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first chemical bombs on them in the

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1920s we attack them and help to kill

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their King in the

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1930s we helped them we helped the

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murder of their president in

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1963 helping the bath party into power

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we bombed them again through the '90s

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yes I'm sure we're all ever so grateful

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for the lecture but what is his solution

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to this problem well now I've got an

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extra minute thanks to you I'll be able

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to tell you this will not be solved

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every matter will be made worse

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extremism will spread further and deeper

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around the world just like happened as a

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result of the last last Iraq war the

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people outside can see it but the fools

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in here who draw a big salary and big

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expenses cannot or will not see it like

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The Honorable lady with her asinine

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intervention Rory Thank The Honorable

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member very much for giving we but would

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the honorable member please bring us to

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his solution to this problem although

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with 5 minutes it's

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difficult we have

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to we have to we have to strengthen

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those who are already fighting ISO we

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have to give them all the weapons they

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need the Baghdad government has paid for

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weapons which have still not even been

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delivered we have to strengthen the

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kurish fighters who are doing a good job

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by the way in fighting

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ISO we have imaginary armies the Sai

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emirati katari they're all imaginary

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armies they haven't even told their own

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people that they're on the Mast heads

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has anyone here seen a picture of them

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fighting in Syria anyone seen a picture

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of a Saudi jet bombing in Syria Saudi

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Arabia is the nest from which Isel and

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these other vipers have come and by the

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way they do a fine line in head chopping

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themselves Saudi Arabia has 700 war

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planes get them to bomb turkey is a NATO

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member get turkey to bomb the last

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people who should be returning to the

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scene of their former crimes are Britain

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France and the United States of America

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Mr Adam

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Holloway thank you Mr Speaker follow

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that I think when people in this house