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sorry Mr

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Ali we are very honored to have with us

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tonight the right honorable George G who

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is the MP for bradf Bradford West his

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party by the name of respect is an

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acronym of respect equality socialism

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peace environmentalism community and

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trade unionism respect is a British

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leftwing party committed to standing in

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defense of the values of Peace Justice

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and equality ladies and gentlemen it

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gives me great pleasure to to present to

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you Mr George

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[Applause]

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Gallow counselor

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ali uh distinguished Scholars brothers

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and sisters and

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Friends forgive me for arriving late I

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had a very busy day in

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Bradford and forgive me for leaving

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immediately please because I have many

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miles to travel back to London this

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evening but I'm honored to have been

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invited and happy to have attended what

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seems to have been a most valuable

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exercise and I caught just some of the

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speeches uh but I know the work of the

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organization well and I highly respect

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and commend it councel Ali didn't uh

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steal my thunder but he did uh use many

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of the argument

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that I intended to use and I very much

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hope that we can work together when he

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is elected to Parliament on the 7th of

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May as indeed I hope myself to be and if

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can begin to make this Common

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Ground uh we can make

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progress the Young woman who was

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talking uh when I came in made the point

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that councelor Ali ALS also

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made there are there are no muslim

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terrorists there are only terrorists

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there are no Christian terrorists only

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terrorists there are no Jewish

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terrorists only terrorists and

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terrorists can wear a suit and a tie and

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be in the white house or whiteall just

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as much as they can have a beard and a

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turban and live in the Torah Bora and

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that is one of the

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distinguishing

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characteristics between us and the

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people who govern us and about whom one

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of whom Mr Nick gleg as he was called on

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the scen

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uh I will have to say a few words in a

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moment but

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first I should as the other speakers

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have done unequivocally make this

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point that there is a problem a big one

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called

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terrorism and some of the people who

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practice it claim to be

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Muslims there is a problem of

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extremism Muslim

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extremists we all know it though

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sometimes we deny

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it it

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exists

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abroad in

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profusion but it exists here

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also all of us know that within this

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umah there are people who have

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become so

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angered by events so radicalized by

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events that they

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have turned their

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minds perhaps their hearts and when

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we're particularly unlucky their

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hands to ugly murderous

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activities I hear Muslims they call me

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up live on television on Thursday night

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who are living deeply in denial which is

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not of course a river in Egypt it's a

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state of mind

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denial that

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if four

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Muslims explode themselves on the London

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Underground and on a London

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bus well they weren't really who they

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said they were it wasn't what it was

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said to be it was some kind of false

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flag it was the British or the Americans

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or the Israelis who did it it

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wasn't it was the people who told us in

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their martydom videos who did

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it and they did it for the reasons they

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stated and councelor Ali powerfully

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understated in a very British way if I

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may say talked about his own own

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secretary being made for

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Life by these extremists these

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terrorists it mattered personally to me

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also because I was the Member of

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Parliament for the old gate East

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underground station at the

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time I went to the station I saw the

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underground Railway workers and the

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Emergency Services carrying the BR

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broken and the dead to the

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surface I went to the Royal London

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Hospital as it was called though you'd

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never find any member of the royal

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family in the Royal London Hospital at

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that time I assure you and I saw the

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doctors and the nurses and the

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pters

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triaging the broken the

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name named and the

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dead this was an Act of mass

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murder and by the way as terrorism can

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be defined as the punishing of innocent

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people for the crimes of guilty

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people given the

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preponderance of anti-iraq War feeling

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certainly especially given who travels

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on the Underground who travels on the

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bus ministers don't travel on the

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underground or the bus the billionaires

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the powerful the newspaper magnates they

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don't travel on the underground or the

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bus overwhelmingly

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statistically it is obvious that if you

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explode an underground train or a bus in

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the wake of the Iraq War to show your

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rage at the Iraq War you're going to

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kill and

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mutilate a vast majority of people who

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were equally against the war who were

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marching against the war it was an

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atrocious Act of nihilistic terrorist

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violence and it was carried out by

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Muslim extremists and none of us is

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permitted to deny it

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so for whatever else I'm going to say I

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don't want to leave any doubt about this

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that this kind of activity is not just

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murderous and

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sinful but it is also utterly completely

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counterproductive it strengthens the war

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criminals it makes them stronger not

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weaker it allows them to introduce new

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laws to criminalize and marginalize the

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Muslims here in Britain it helps the

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Islam islamophobic media and right-wing

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political parties to create a climate

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ever more

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inhospitable to Muslims and make their

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lives more

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difficult but it is also true as I said

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on news night that very night

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counselor

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2005 I said it on you tues night that

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very night as I did in the house that

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very afternoon up close and personal

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Hypocrites Hypocrites who

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were weeping crocodile

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tears for those who had been murdered in

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London but who were planning and had

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already executed the murder of hundreds

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of thousands of people by Cru Miss

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and drone

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attacks and shock and

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awe and who were ready to do it again

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and have done it again in Libya for

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example as was alluded to by councelor

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between us we're against all terrorism

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by anybody anywhere at any time whether

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it's a state or whether it is an

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individual

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idual and when it occurs by an

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individual or five individuals it has

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occurred as a result of the actions of

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one individual or five

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individuals Anders

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braic The Fanatic

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monocultural Christian Norwegian mass

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murderer killed scores more than 60

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children in Norway his Manifesto was

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published that he wanted a Christian

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Europe nobody in the right mind would

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have held Jesus responsible for that or

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Norwegian Christians for that or white

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people for that and so we will not

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accept that the Muslims 17 billion

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Muslims in the world can be held

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responsible for the actions of

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individuals or small groups of people

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there is no Authority in the Quran in

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the Hadith in the fatwa by the leading

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scholars in the world for these

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terrorist

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actions but there was a famous book

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written by the Christian philosopher St

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Augustine called city of

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God in which he

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recounts a story an ancient story of

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Alexander the

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Great encountering a pirate ship on the

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high

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seas ordering the pirate to

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Halt Alexander the

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Great demanded of the pirate Captain how

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dare

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you terrorize the

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world these

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Seas with your

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piracy and the pirate Captain

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answered how dare you terrorize the

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entire world you with your great

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Navy and all your power can call

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yourself an

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emperor and can call other men as you

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please this story is more than 1,000

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years

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old but it could have been written

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yesterday those who arrogate to

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themselves the title of the so-called

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International Community though they're

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almost never speaking for more than a

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tiny proportion of the International

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Community can call this state a

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terrorist State a failed State a rogue

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State and can can do with it as they

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please and it is this fundamental

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world which is driving some people crazy

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they're always looking for some scholar

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some preacher hate preacher to ban some

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Muslim organization to

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proscribe and they tell us this will to

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borrow a phrase

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prevent the growth

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of so-called

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radicalization but all it takes to feel

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radical if you're a Muslim in the west

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today is the ability to switch on the

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television and watch the news that's

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what's radicalizing people no

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organizations of

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cranks or hate

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preachers but the

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facts Last

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Summer Benjamin

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murdered

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2,160 Palestinians in the Gaza

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Strip in plain

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sight live on

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television people who had nowhere to run

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nowhere to hide living in a tiny piece

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of

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land C you were in Jerusalem bad enough

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there try

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Gaza where some of my friends and I have

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repeatedly broken The Siege with our

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convoys we've seen it with our

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eyes Gaza is 21 M

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long and at its narrowest Point 1.6 mil

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wide it is entirely surrounded by

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wire and

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watchtowers both on the Egyptian border

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and on the much more

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significant isra really bord the people

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had nowhere to go they dropped

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leaflets saying we're going to be

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bombing your village tonight what about

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the people supposed to

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do catch a plane

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somewhere catch a

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train move move where the entire Gaza

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Strip was under

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bombardment

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2,160

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dead 60,000 thousand houses

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destroyed starving people thirsty people

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people with no doctors no medicine no

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electricity were being relentlessly

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bombarded how

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radical to the powers who stood by and

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watched it or even helped it think that

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that is going to make Muslims in the

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world feel

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of those more than 500 were

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children 500 children last

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summer mothered in front of our

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eyes by a state for which a red carpet

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is

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rolled wherever its leader

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goes and that's the insult that is added

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to the injury

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that the victims are called the

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perpetrators and the perpetrators are

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called the

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victims now

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this fundamental Injustice in the

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world is the biggest source of our

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problems if it

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didn't then the prevent strategies and

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all the counterterrorism

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measures would be much less L necessary

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they would still be necessary we need to

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have Smart police we need to have Smart

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intelligence Services we have a right to

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an obligation to defend

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ourselves but the recruits for

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fanaticism extremism and terrorism would

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dry

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up if the Injustice in the world were

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not so

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great as that which I'm trying trying to

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to strive

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so I'm all for fighting

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extremism I do it all the time it's why

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the extremists hate me so because we're

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saying to

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Muslims we is respect councelor Ali in

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his work we're saying to Muslims not

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that you shouldn't be

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angry what kind of Muslim would you be

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if you weren't angry about what's

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happening in the world but the right way

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to be angry is to unite with others who

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are also angry and work democratically

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to punish the people who are making you

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angry to change the people who are

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making you angry that's not just the

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legal way it's not even just the moral

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way though it is both it is the

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effective way it's the only effective

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way exploding yourself and killing

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others achieves entirely the

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opposite

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result so I'm

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for the prizing that has been done here

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today about the true meaning of

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Islam the rejection by Islam of such

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nistic violence as we are discussing

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here

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but that in itself will not solve the

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problem it's necessary but not

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sufficient we have to at the same time

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struggle to change the

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nature of our own government and the

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circles in which it moves because Israel

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is only allowed to murder the children

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in Gaza because it gets unlimited money

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and weapons from the United States the

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United Kingdom and the European Union

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and others otherwise it couldn't do

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it the Diplomatic and political support

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the vetos in the United Nations and so

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on we must struggle for a different role

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for our own country and if we did we

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would see this phenomenon of extremism

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begin to shrink before our eyes and

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quickly if we had a government in

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Britain that spoke like councelor Ali or

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me how many extremists would find many

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takers for their

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ugly prospectives my last point is

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this that you don't have to be a Western

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Government to be involved in terrorism

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and you've just heard and

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seen that Muslim governments can be

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responsible for St take terrorism too in

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Model Town in laor in

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Islamabad or in Cairo or in Alexandria

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where the military Jun of General

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CC has massacred

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thousands of Egyptian people tortured

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thousands disappeared

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thousands and we have to face this awful

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truth that the Muslim world is ruled

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almost in its

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entirety from one end to the

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other by tyrants puppet presidents

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corrupt

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Kings who rule their countries in the

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service of

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others rather than in the service of

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their own people we are commanded

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it's it's not optional we are

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commanded if we can

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to raise our hands against

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Injustice even against our own

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family if they are committing

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Injustice and if we cannot raise our

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hands we must raise our

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voice and if we cannot raise our hands

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or our voice we must curse it in our

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hearts that too should be the message

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from today that Justice is indivisible

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and must be struggled

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for everywhere wasam alayum thank you

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very much

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indeed thank you Mr C for your very

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valuable time and words to conclude this

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seminar I would like to call upon Mr

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haror who is the president of Pakistan

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here in the UK to thank our very special

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guests and audience here tonight

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[Applause]