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my name is Yer and I'm a I'm a strong

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supporter of

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Israel you're a strong supporter of

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Israel exactly oh really go ahead you

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I'm I'm intrigued I believe George you

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are part of the problem why there is not

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going to be any peace at all in Israel

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yeah yes tell me why Yousef I'm part of

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the problem my goodness because I'm I

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think that you know propaganda is not

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going to lead us anywhere we must speak

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the TRU George and

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yeah I believe

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I

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youf yes I believe propaganda is not

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going to lead us anywhere and we have to

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speak the truth when it comes to Israel

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let speak the truth then go ahead Speak

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Your Truth answer has to correspond

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either to the empirical form of

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measurement or to logical reasoning

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process and and the naked truth about

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the about who the naked truth about who

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actually is occupying whose land and has

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to cohere are not in cohere with history

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archaeology Theology and Logics and you

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know from the historical point of view

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that land belongs to Israel from

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theological point of view it belongs to

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Israel from archaeological point of view

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it belongs to Israel and now the very

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fact that once a debate has been

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established on false that debate is

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already lost and wor that is not such

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called you know it you smiling it you

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though these are invented people they

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never belong to that land and from the

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theological point of view they are

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Muslims they are not 8s when they claim

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that is their land that means they don't

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even believe in

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Allah well it's interesting it's

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interesting that you uh bring up uh

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Allah uh because you know that the

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prophet Muhammad peace be upon Him

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ascended to the heavens from Palestine

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from Jerusalem from the

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alaka uh now this makes the matter of

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sacred importance to the Muslim um which

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is as you probably know Yousef almost

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two billion strong and that Mosque of Al

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AA is now in the hands of foreigners you

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talk have the nerf to talk about

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indigenous people but the vast majority

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of the citizens of Israel are not

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indigenous to anywhere except North

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America and Europe and the people who

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run the State now and have always run

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the state are indigenous to Europe hold

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on to Europe and North America they have

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nothing to do with Palestine

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and I'm talking now you spoke for quite

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a long time and I'll let you back in

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when I'm finished talking the uh people

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who founded this state were more than

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ready to found it in any number of other

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places other than Palestine so your uh

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claim that God was the estate agent in

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all of this is absurd because the

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Zionist movement first asked the British

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if they could create a state of Israel

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in the SE shells or in Uganda or in

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Patagonia in Latin America in Argentina

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what is now the state of Argentina so

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there's nothing wholly or religious

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about the claim to set up a state of

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Israel it was just another European

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settler State and it was ready to

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establish itself wherever the British

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Empire would give it land to do so

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secondly as you mention

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atheism every single one of the Zionist

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leaders who wanted from Britain land to

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create a state of Israel was in fact an

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atheist they did not believe in God and

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therefore could not possibly have been

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claiming that God promised them the land

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of Palestine but and here's my point

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because I don't really hold with going

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back thousands of years or relying on

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religious scriptures especially those

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that were written by men I ask you this

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Yousef yes if it's as clearcut as you

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say it is then Israel has no problem now

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Netanyahu has no problem there is no

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threat to Israel because according to

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you from every single standpoint and by

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the use of any yard stick Israel is

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entitled to this land but they do have a

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problem don't they M mhm what is it is

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it me am I the problem no let me talk

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yeah you've been talking it looks like

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you are the only one who has a point

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what I mean by that you know when we

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willfully and purposely deny all these

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facts there'll be no solution the only

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solution is we have to go back to

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history to know where we are and where

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we are from and where we and where we

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are heading to historically we are

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giving possession to the the to to to

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the people who has no historical

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connection to that land these people are

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Arabs they are the land of Israel

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belongs to the Jews not the Arabs and

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even before Yousef let me interrupt you

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for a second I'll let you continue cuz

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I'm fascinated by how you reach this uh

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standpoint shall I say what do you mean

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they are Arabs does that mean that they

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are not Palestinians is that your point

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Palestinians when we say Palestinian

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this a different thing and the only way

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we can know who are palestinia we have

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to go back to history Palestinians are a

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different people we know in 585 BC no no

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look we don't have enough time to bug

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ourselves down in 585 BC let's try

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instead youf let's try instead

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2014 ad well there are

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million Palestinians millions of them

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under

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occupation look listen to me and then

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I'll let you back in there are 13

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million Palestinians millions of them

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under occupation and Siege but most of

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them outside of the land living as

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refugees that is a fact it's a clear and

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present threat to the existence of what

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they call Israel otherwise Israel would

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have no problems and we wouldn't be

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having this conversation so these real

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live 13 million Palestinians either live

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in Palestine or are demanding the right

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to return to Palestine what are you

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going to do about it Yousef no I ask you

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this simple question why they not speak

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in Arabic if they are Palestinians

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because I know Palestinians are

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different people like when we say

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Chinese so why are they speaking Arabic

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now when they are Palestinians why are

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they not speaking Palestinian language

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there no Palestinian language the

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Palestinian language is Palestinian

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language is

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Arabic get your nose out of your ancient

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books I'm talking to you not about 565

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BC but about

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2014 ad what are you going to do about

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the millions of

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Palestinian Arabs who speak Arabic who

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are Christian and Muslim what are you

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going to do about

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them excuse

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[Music]

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mege I think that's the heavens crying

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Yousef nobody can take much more of your

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obscurantism attend to your baby please

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because there are many crying children

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in Palestine some of whom were killed

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just yesterday as netanyahu's rage at

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the unity agreement reached between

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between Hamas and fata was played out uh

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in the media Israel immediately launched

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its air strikes which killed and maimed

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many most of them children in the

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northern part of Gaza