1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,520 this time there well anyway Abu if 2 00:00:01,640 --> 00:00:06,040 you're watching Jackie doesn't want you 3 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:07,720 back now the cabinet discussed plans for 4 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:10,040 air strikes in Iraq today Parliament 5 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:13,280 will vote on them tomorrow no this isn't 6 00:00:10,040 --> 00:00:14,799 a this week repeat from 2003 Britain is 7 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,920 once again on the brink of military 8 00:00:14,799 --> 00:00:19,800 action in Iraq just like the good old 9 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:21,439 days or the bad old days take your pick 10 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,720 speaking of the UN today the Prime 11 00:00:21,439 --> 00:00:26,640 Minister David Cameron that is not Tony 12 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:28,760 Blair said past mistakes must not be an 13 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,599 excuse for inaction but have we learned 14 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:33,360 anything from past mistakes will history 15 00:00:30,599 --> 00:00:37,719 repeat itself we turn to anti-war MP 16 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:37,719 George Galloway this is take of the 17 00:00:37,850 --> 00:00:47,549 [Music] 18 00:00:54,320 --> 00:01:00,480 week it's Groundhog Day 11 years ago 19 00:00:58,199 --> 00:01:02,960 here on the streets of West star 20 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:07,080 millions of us marched against the 21 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:10,759 impending us UK invasion of 22 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:14,159 Iraq and tomorrow in Parliament we might 23 00:01:10,759 --> 00:01:16,799 just be about to do it all again doesn't 24 00:01:14,159 --> 00:01:19,320 seem to matter to some that a million 25 00:01:16,799 --> 00:01:22,040 people lost their lives that Iraq was 26 00:01:19,320 --> 00:01:25,000 ruined and that the principal 27 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:31,119 beneficiary of the Bush Blair war on 28 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:31,119 Iraq was Al-Qaeda and people like them 29 00:01:31,960 --> 00:01:38,079 this is not about me supporting Isis I'd 30 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:40,920 be happy if every member of Isis was 31 00:01:38,079 --> 00:01:44,560 lying dead here in this street it's 32 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:47,360 about how we achieve the defeat of Isis 33 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:50,560 not whether they need to be defeated 34 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:54,159 these sectarian head chopping heart 35 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:56,799 eating Maniacs have to be defeated and 36 00:01:54,159 --> 00:01:59,920 the one sure way that you will not 37 00:01:56,799 --> 00:02:02,439 achieve it is British and American and 38 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:06,240 French bombers and cruise missiles 39 00:02:02,439 --> 00:02:09,399 raining down on yet another Arab Muslim 40 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:12,080 country not only can many not see the 41 00:02:09,399 --> 00:02:13,840 history of the last 11 years many in 42 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:16,400 this country appear to have forgotten 43 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:19,360 our history perfidious albian in the 44 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:21,680 Arab Middle East over the last century 45 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:26,200 we need to be strengthening those who 46 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:28,599 are already fighting Isis isil alqaeda 47 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:31,120 call them what you will we need to be 48 00:02:28,599 --> 00:02:33,599 strengthening the Kurdish pesmerga the 49 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:36,440 governments of Iraq and Syria and we 50 00:02:33,599 --> 00:02:39,560 need to find common ground with Russia 51 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,560 China and 52 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:44,680 Iran from Lawrence of Arabia to David 53 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:47,280 Cameron not much difference really at 54 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:49,640 least viewed from the Arab street from 55 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:53,080 their point of view Britain equals 56 00:02:49,640 --> 00:02:55,400 treachery Invasion and occupation that's 57 00:02:53,080 --> 00:03:01,519 why tomorrow in Parliament I'll be 58 00:02:55,400 --> 00:03:01,519 voting against war in Iraq again 59 00:03:04,180 --> 00:03:09,360 [Music] 60 00:03:07,319 --> 00:03:10,959 yeah and from the back streets of 61 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,560 Westminster to our own little back 62 00:03:10,959 --> 00:03:14,519 street here in the heart of Central 63 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:16,680 London George Galloway joins us George 64 00:03:14,519 --> 00:03:18,640 welcome to this week George does it make 65 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:21,280 no difference that this time Iraq has 66 00:03:18,640 --> 00:03:23,280 asked for help from the US its Arab 67 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,920 allies and so on does does that change 68 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:27,920 the equation it does make a difference 69 00:03:24,920 --> 00:03:31,680 it makes it legal uh where the bombing 70 00:03:27,920 --> 00:03:34,159 in Syria right now is illegal uh but it 71 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,920 doesn't change the other two issues that 72 00:03:34,159 --> 00:03:38,920 I 73 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:41,080 raise it's indiscriminate you cannot 74 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:43,519 believe anyone who tells you about 75 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:46,120 Precision targeting bombing weapons and 76 00:03:43,519 --> 00:03:47,959 so on it'll kill a lot of civilians 77 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:51,560 women children and when they're dragged 78 00:03:47,959 --> 00:03:54,079 out of the rubble it will do the third 79 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:56,280 of my trip ditch it will be 80 00:03:54,079 --> 00:03:59,079 counterproductive it will strengthen the 81 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:03,200 Fanatics and strengthen their appeal 82 00:03:59,079 --> 00:04:04,920 across the 1.7 billion Sunni Muslims in 83 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,920 the world including those here what did 84 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:10,159 you say to that Jackie well I mean the 85 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:12,599 first thing I I say George is that um 86 00:04:10,159 --> 00:04:15,760 even without us having taken action it 87 00:04:12,599 --> 00:04:18,000 is clear that the those within Isis are 88 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:20,600 already committing barbaric acts so I 89 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:22,479 don't necessarily believe that you know 90 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:25,160 the it's a grievance that causes that to 91 00:04:22,479 --> 00:04:26,880 happen it's a islamist ideology that 92 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:30,039 causes that to happen and which needs to 93 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:32,240 be addressed the second thing i' our 94 00:04:30,039 --> 00:04:34,479 barbaric acts as they'll present them 95 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:36,039 will will replace the barbaric acts that 96 00:04:34,479 --> 00:04:38,840 they're carrying out I think that's 97 00:04:36,039 --> 00:04:40,360 George's point it is I disagree with it 98 00:04:38,840 --> 00:04:41,960 but the point I do agree with that 99 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:45,440 George makes is that this needs to be 100 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:47,440 something uh where those in the in the 101 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:50,520 region are engaged now they're clearly 102 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:52,840 engaged in the um military action they 103 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,759 are asking in the case of Iraq for our 104 00:04:52,840 --> 00:04:56,320 support with their strikes and George 105 00:04:54,759 --> 00:04:58,000 you know I've worked with Iraqi 106 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:00,600 parliamentarians I've worked in Jordan 107 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:02,440 and in other parts of the of that area 108 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:05,120 and it strikes me that it is not 109 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:07,039 contradictory to want to both support 110 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,800 the development of democratic government 111 00:05:07,039 --> 00:05:11,080 and to support with military force where 112 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:13,560 necessary and where asked in order to 113 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:15,919 defeat something which is putting those 114 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:18,479 uh fledgling governments at significant 115 00:05:15,919 --> 00:05:20,720 risk let me uh put a point to Michael 116 00:05:18,479 --> 00:05:23,160 then come back to you Josh uh I mean 117 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:24,400 we're late to the theater on this uh our 118 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,680 military contribution will be 119 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:28,680 insignificant the Arab allies are much 120 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:31,639 more important and we're half-hearted 121 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,639 about it why are we bothering 122 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:36,639 um let me go back to what George said I 123 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,960 I think one must one must not speak with 124 00:05:36,639 --> 00:05:40,240 any jingoism about this one must be with 125 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,479 quite a lot of humility because I think 126 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:44,520 I accept what George says that we're in 127 00:05:42,479 --> 00:05:46,800 the position we're in in Iraq partly 128 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:50,080 because we went to war there in 129 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:51,880 2003 but I think although George's right 130 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,919 to claim some expertise in the subject 131 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:56,000 and right to implies I think he does a 132 00:05:53,919 --> 00:05:58,000 lack of expertise in London about the 133 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:00,840 Middle East there is expertise in Saudi 134 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:03,800 Arabia and Jordan and and Iraq and the 135 00:06:00,840 --> 00:06:06,759 UAE and Bahrain all of whom I think are 136 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:09,360 involved in this operation and that I do 137 00:06:06,759 --> 00:06:11,280 find persuasive I mean those countries 138 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:13,160 surely can make the George argument if 139 00:06:11,280 --> 00:06:14,639 they care to make the George AR argument 140 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,160 but they don't they make an opposite 141 00:06:14,639 --> 00:06:20,240 argument they say that they want our 142 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:21,840 help now and that is they do in indeed 143 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,039 intend to fight this enemy on the ground 144 00:06:21,840 --> 00:06:25,000 they are fighting the enemy on the 145 00:06:23,039 --> 00:06:27,240 ground but they want us to help them to 146 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,759 fight it from there let George well all 147 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:31,080 of those countries you mentioned are of 148 00:06:28,759 --> 00:06:34,599 course dictators ship to whom freedom 149 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:37,160 and liberty is an alien concept secondly 150 00:06:34,599 --> 00:06:39,560 they're not sorry Jordan isn't a 151 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:42,120 dictatorship Jordan is a royal absolute 152 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:45,240 monarchy dictatorship I'm sorry you 153 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:48,360 haven't spent enough time there uh the 154 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:50,319 dictatorships uh that Michael prenate 155 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:52,960 are themselves not speaking for their 156 00:06:50,319 --> 00:06:55,400 people indeed much of the support for 157 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:57,879 isil comes from countries like Saudi 158 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:59,919 Arabia much of the money uh in the 159 00:06:57,879 --> 00:07:02,039 beginning and these countries that you 160 00:06:59,919 --> 00:07:04,080 mentioned several of them are up to 161 00:07:02,039 --> 00:07:07,199 their neck in the blood in the region in 162 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:09,080 the first place and thirdly I'm not sure 163 00:07:07,199 --> 00:07:12,199 they are involved I haven't seen any 164 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:15,160 pictures of any Saudi aircraft bombing 165 00:07:12,199 --> 00:07:17,800 uh Syria or Iraq I haven't seen their 166 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:19,879 Livery anywhere they're on the paper 167 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,919 they're on the Mast head but I don't 168 00:07:19,879 --> 00:07:24,039 think they are a significant military 169 00:07:21,919 --> 00:07:28,120 part I don't think they'd even claim to 170 00:07:24,039 --> 00:07:31,479 be but Saudi Arabia has 700 war planes 171 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:33,800 700 we should know we sold them many you 172 00:07:31,479 --> 00:07:36,319 probably sold them uh many of them the 173 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:38,520 mixure of tornadoes and yes why can't 174 00:07:36,319 --> 00:07:39,720 they do this job why that's a good 175 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:42,280 question why can't they do that turkey 176 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:44,639 is a NATO member with a very powerful 177 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:46,759 Army Iran has a powerful Army the point 178 00:07:44,639 --> 00:07:49,919 is that if they were really committed 179 00:07:46,759 --> 00:07:52,159 they wouldn't need us um they got the 180 00:07:49,919 --> 00:07:53,919 hardware they have got the hardware but 181 00:07:52,159 --> 00:07:55,919 but Hardware is useless and let you know 182 00:07:53,919 --> 00:07:57,919 how to use it and that's partly about 183 00:07:55,919 --> 00:07:59,520 pilot training and it's partly about 184 00:07:57,919 --> 00:08:00,879 well the Saudi Pilots are trained in the 185 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:03,199 UK well and it's partly about 186 00:08:00,879 --> 00:08:04,800 intelligence yes they are I I don't know 187 00:08:03,199 --> 00:08:07,560 what their capability is I'm no longer 188 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:09,120 in any position to assess that but I 189 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,520 don't think anyone would claim that they 190 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,360 would have the same expertise that the 191 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:14,080 Americans would have or probably even at 192 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:17,080 a lower level than the British I come 193 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:20,000 back to the point I made uh to Michael 194 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:21,560 why are we bothering I mean our military 195 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:24,319 contribution is insignificant we're 196 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:27,159 going to got six tornadoes coming out of 197 00:08:24,319 --> 00:08:28,840 Cyprus uh they don't need us we're 198 00:08:27,159 --> 00:08:31,560 making it more complicated by saying 199 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:35,279 we'll do it but we won't do Syria there 200 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:36,880 is some symbolism for the Americans but 201 00:08:35,279 --> 00:08:38,320 the French are there already why do we 202 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,200 need to be there we're bothering for 203 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:42,240 both a principled and a pragmatic reason 204 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:44,039 the principled reason being I'm an 205 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:46,880 internationalist I believe that when 206 00:08:44,039 --> 00:08:48,720 people call for your assistance in 207 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,560 fighting the barbarism that we're seeing 208 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:52,279 at the moment from isil you should come 209 00:08:50,560 --> 00:08:54,399 to their assistance to help them 210 00:08:52,279 --> 00:08:56,800 pragmatically I think there is some 211 00:08:54,399 --> 00:08:59,440 evidence that those who have been 212 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:01,600 radicalized and in fact uh who have 213 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:04,040 carried out hideous acts in Iraq and 214 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:06,000 Syria were they to return to the UK or 215 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:08,720 were they to want to plot against the UK 216 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:10,760 would be a threat to our if if we're 217 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:16,040 bombing are they less likely to do so if 218 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:18,560 we bomb them uh these uh people uh were 219 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:20,959 encouraged to go and fight in Syria by 220 00:09:18,560 --> 00:09:23,959 Western policy right at the beginning of 221 00:09:20,959 --> 00:09:26,200 this conflict it was an insane policy as 222 00:09:23,959 --> 00:09:28,480 I tried to point out at the time because 223 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:31,000 all these people would be all dressed up 224 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:33,120 with nowhere to go except back home with 225 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:35,279 all the skills terrorist skills that 226 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:38,600 they acquired in that conflict the 227 00:09:35,279 --> 00:09:40,360 problem for both Michael and Jackie is 228 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:42,160 that we the public have heard all this 229 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:45,440 before these were the reasons we were 230 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:47,800 told we should invade and occupy Iraq in 231 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:49,560 the first place and it didn't work then 232 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:53,160 why should we believe that it will work 233 00:09:49,560 --> 00:09:55,760 now terrorism flourished cascaded 234 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:58,320 everywhere in the world as a result of 235 00:09:55,760 --> 00:10:00,800 the first uh uh Iraq war the second one 236 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:03,360 as that happened Dame Eliza Manningham 237 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:04,560 Buller warned us in advance of the war 238 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,680 that that would be the case she was the 239 00:10:04,560 --> 00:10:08,920 head of MI5 was the head of MI5 and she 240 00:10:06,680 --> 00:10:12,880 said the risk of terrorism here in 241 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:15,480 Britain will be greater if we invade we 242 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:19,000 are not to blame for violent islamism 243 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:22,399 911 happened uh before for example we 244 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:24,120 went into um Afghanistan uh I think to 245 00:10:22,399 --> 00:10:25,600 try and sort of somhow suggest you know 246 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,600 I was glad to see your condemnation in 247 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:29,399 the film but what you now appear to be 248 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:32,720 trying to do is to be shifting respons 249 00:10:29,399 --> 00:10:35,720 responsibility for uh barbarism that is 250 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:37,680 the responsibility of isil somehow onto 251 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:41,000 us this isn't actually about 252 00:10:37,680 --> 00:10:43,760 us George leaves out any sense of um of 253 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:45,959 urgency I mean Isel has made tremendous 254 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:49,040 advances taking over much of Syria and 255 00:10:45,959 --> 00:10:50,920 much of uh Iraq uh the Iraqi government 256 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:53,000 to say the least of it is alarmed about 257 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:54,839 that the other powers in the region are 258 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:57,440 to say the least of it alarmed about 259 00:10:54,839 --> 00:10:58,880 that this isn't just about considering 260 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:01,000 whether a bit of bombing is going to 261 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,639 make the more likely to attack us was 262 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,800 going to make them more militant it is 263 00:11:02,639 --> 00:11:06,680 also about trying to arrest what has 264 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,839 been until recently a deteriorating 265 00:11:06,680 --> 00:11:10,000 military situation well let me pick up 266 00:11:08,839 --> 00:11:12,560 on that because there's a report in 267 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:14,600 yesterday's New York Times uh a very 268 00:11:12,560 --> 00:11:17,839 authoritative report that that pointed 269 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:21,920 out that after six weeks of American Air 270 00:11:17,839 --> 00:11:23,800 Raids in Iraq not in Syria but in Iraq 271 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:26,079 isil or Isis or wherever you want to 272 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:28,120 call it hasn't given up a single bit of 273 00:11:26,079 --> 00:11:30,480 ground they're still there indeed they 274 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:34,320 yesterday they took took over an Iraqi 275 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:35,800 army camp 30 m from Baghdad so what is 276 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:40,240 air power going to 277 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:41,600 do well air power obviously can kill a 278 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:44,079 lot of people and destroy a lot of 279 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:46,360 equipment and can destroy um command 280 00:11:44,079 --> 00:11:48,360 centers it does need to be accompanied 281 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,720 by an operation on the ground and I 282 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,079 think George is absolutely right to say 283 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,560 the operation on the ground ought to be 284 00:11:51,079 --> 00:11:56,680 one that's conducted by the local Powers 285 00:11:53,560 --> 00:11:59,880 local one thing I'm sure of 286 00:11:56,680 --> 00:12:03,079 theis are not going to commit not they 287 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:06,680 simply are not uh and they want us to do 288 00:12:03,079 --> 00:12:09,600 it for them even though they are in part 289 00:12:06,680 --> 00:12:12,160 responsible for this problem but I'm 290 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:15,639 Jackie in no doubt at all about your 291 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:18,040 responsibility in this and two million 292 00:12:15,639 --> 00:12:20,720 of us on the Streets of London Told You 293 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:23,760 So at the time and for you now to try 294 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:26,040 and wash your hands of your share of the 295 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:30,760 responsibility I'm afraid that's a spot 296 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:33,120 that will not all the perfumes of Arabia 297 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:34,800 and all of your poetry George doesn't 298 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:37,160 prevent people from being murdered and 299 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,800 massacred in Iraq and Syria at the 300 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,079 moment I not washing my hands of what 301 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,639 happened in the past you killed a 302 00:12:40,079 --> 00:12:44,839 million people in Iraq that is a 303 00:12:41,639 --> 00:12:47,880 separate you killed a million people in 304 00:12:44,839 --> 00:12:51,839 Iraq it's incredible that you have the 305 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:54,279 brass neck to be sitting here now urging 306 00:12:51,839 --> 00:12:55,720 another Iraq war if I was still in 307 00:12:54,279 --> 00:12:58,079 Parliament I would be there tomorrow 308 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:59,720 living up to my responsibility to answer 309 00:12:58,079 --> 00:13:01,760 the call of the IR 310 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:03,240 government and people to help to support 311 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,440 them and the fact that you aren't is 312 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,320 something that you will have to live 313 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:09,560 with let me ask a final question to you 314 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:12,880 George if not bombing if not 315 00:13:09,560 --> 00:13:15,320 intervention how do we deal with this 316 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:17,120 cancer give Iraq the weapons that it's 317 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:19,920 already paid for but haven't been 318 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:21,920 delivered strengthen the peshmerga 319 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:24,680 strengthen the governments of Iraq and 320 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:26,800 Syria and ask Saudi Arabia turkey and 321 00:13:24,680 --> 00:13:29,120 Iran to fight this battle it's their 322 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:32,000 battle not ours okay George Gall thank 323 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:33,680 thanks for being with us now it's late 324 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,800 Alex Simon's dream of an independent 325 00:13:33,680 --> 00:13:37,920 Scotland late but don't activate the 326 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:41,240 Babe station subscription just yet 327 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,240 because waiting on the wings back