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hello good to

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see right so uh you were booked to come

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on the show quite a while quite a while

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ago but what a night I guess

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coincidentally for you to be on what's

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your reaction to what our first minister

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in Northern Ireland has said in terms of

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his support for pastor McConnell well I

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felt like I was on the set of

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Mississippi Burning I felt like Jean

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Hackman in the barber shop in fact your

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staff had to hold me back from coming on

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and confronting the kind of

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mindless ignorant bigotry to which your

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audience has just been treated and I

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really don't think you should

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underestimate just how grotesque that

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first item was a YouTube classic and not

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in a good way this will travel he has

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the support of our first Minister that

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that is the the point you see now the D

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have just one second the dup have been

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in touch with this tonight to say that

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uh under no circumstances has the the

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first Minister said that he does not

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trust all Muslims and the DP want to

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make that very clear they just haven't

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taken the opportunity to come in here

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and make it clear there was an open seat

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for them where on Earth are they well

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you see otherwise it would just be the

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case of a embarrassingly foolish old man

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who thinks that Muslims follow sh ra law

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uh a word that he mispronounced at least

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11 times he's got a lot of support well

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otherwise it would just be that it's the

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fact that powerful people here in this

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government Worship in his ministry every

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Sunday and that the first minister no

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less and I heard the car crash interview

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Peter Robinson gave today to the Irish

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news he gave that interview to the Irish

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news there is no point saying that in no

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circumstances does he not trust Muslims

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I heard him say three times a magic no

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he spelled out he spelled out

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circumstances in which he would not

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trust Muslims he would for example trust

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a Muslim to go to the shop for him yes

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he would he around the house Muslims to

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go to Every to do other everyday tasks

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for them yes yes that was very kind of

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them but the offense that that will have

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he didn't say everyday task for him he

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said everyday tasks and every every life

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if you any I mean you said it was on

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channel 4 news tonight it's on Al jazer

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news this is traveling like wildfire

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across the Muslim world that the first

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minister of this place endorsed that man

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who said and you were shy he defended

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him he didn't Endor everything he said

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he defended him well he defended him so

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resolutely that you cannot now slip six

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pence between that Pastor and Peter

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Robinson that's how it will be seen in

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the world so best not go looking for any

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investment from the Islamic World

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anytime soon best not go looking for any

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tourists who don't want to visit the set

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of Mississippi Burning anytime soon this

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is madness this shows this place as a

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400y old throwback I mean would happen

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if David Cameron said something similar

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already out if any minister or any

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Shadow minister

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in Britain had said what Peter Robinson

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said today he would already have

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resigned or been forced so hold on a

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second so a first Minister isn't allowed

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anymore some people might admire him

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because he has stood up and he has

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defended a man under pressure he's

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defended a man who you don't know who I

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don't know who he has known for 20 years

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I'll tell you what he's also defended

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something that you share with him he's

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defended Free Speech well it's not

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you're a big advocate of free speech not

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hate speech I'm not this past said

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Muslims py had speake the police haven't

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even contacted them well that speaks

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volumes too this Pastor said Muslims

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were the spawn of the devil do you get

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that the spawn of the devil the faith he

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didn't say Muslims he said the faith he

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said Islam Islamic faith that's a

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distinction with a difference well

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people from different religions AR

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religion all the time you think the

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Bangladeshi shopkeeper or the Pakistani

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doctor in here in Bel past or elsewhere

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here in the north of Ireland makes that

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distinction he believed that they were

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talking about him not their faith

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abstractly and if something happens now

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if a hear on the head of any of the

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4,000 Muslims here is now harmed who do

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you think will be blamed and how big a

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story do you think that that will be and

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your Robinson our first m is made a

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clear he does not support violence

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well he's made it very clear that's

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somewhat problematic in itself but I

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don't want to intrude on Irish political

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matters uh in this discussion he had the

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opportunity to finish this story today

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he could have said actually I don't

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agree with the words that the pastor

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used but he's a decent man I've known

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him for 20 years but I would never have

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used that language he could have done

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that is there not an issue with the

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Islamic faith George is there not an

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issue that that that that some people

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who adhere to an interpretation of

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sharia law support a woman in Sudan

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being given a hundred lies and executed

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because she's committed adultery is that

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not an issue we should denounce it but

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it happened in Sudan it has nothing to

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do with the Muslims in Britain can you

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tell me there would be no Muslims in

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Britain who would follow Sharia law who

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would support that I I know of no muslim

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and I represent tens of thousands of

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them in Parliament there's no is I know

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of no muslim I defy you to produce one

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and there no issue of Islamic extremism

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in Britain oh there is n there is and

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this man you had sitting here is one of

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the leading men who condemns it and I

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condemn it there is Islamic extremism do

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you think the pastor's words and

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Robinson's support of them will help or

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hinder Islamic extremism in Britain will

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it make people more fanatic more angry

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or less fanatic and less angry this was

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a grossly irresponsible interview Peter

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Robinson gave this morning he set fire

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to an issue that would have actually

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died out would have just been put down

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to another crackpot Pastor in Northern

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Ireland just about you and your respect

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party that's that's that's what would

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been

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done that's that's what have been done

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and and by the way about you and your

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respect party party courting the Muslim

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vote is that what's going on here listen

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I'm of Irish Catholic background I used

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to hear these pastors I don't even know

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if you're a Muslim or not I don't know

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are you I don't know say it's none of

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your business what I am I'm telling you

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this that there were plenty of pastors

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here used to talk about Catholics in

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that language used to call us the spawn

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of the devil the Pope the

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Antichrist most people in Britain

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thought that the north of Island was

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getting away from all that thought that

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the peace process was bringing you into

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the Cent the rest of us are all in Peter

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Robinson just tore all that up today I'm

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telling you that's what happened wow

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this story could go away couldn't it

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well it was on British national news

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tonight I'm telling you it's on the news

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all over the Muslim world and if we are

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unlucky they'll be clipping the Nolan

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show right now for tomorrow night's news

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in here's someone talking about Shar law

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Shar law he doesn't even know know the

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words that he's denouncing he knows

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nothing about the religion he's smearing

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in such a comprehensive way and that

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dignified young man that sat opposite

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him a hero why do you think he has so

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many supporters then well that's the

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worrying thing how many is that not a

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democracy well I think the decent

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Christian Protestant people should

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disassociate themselves wholesale and

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quickly from this fanatic that you had

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on here guy here go ahead yeah go ahead

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great Shir go ahead where do we get a

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mic to you I'm going a mic to you what

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I'd like to say to George is your scarm

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monging okay the mom was in his own

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church in his own assembly for 40 years

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teaching people raising them up for

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protection for their own family to raise

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up family in a right order to respect

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every person that's why he's respected

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on his church the media come in and and

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listen to what he was saying on the

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platform then he manipulated it and

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brought him out into the world and

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turned around and told him he was

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telling people he didn't trust them

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trust no we didn't we didn't hold on a

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listen I'm sorry you listen the media

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didn't tell them anything the media

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asked him by way media manipulated the

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media manipulated everything he said

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talking in context of a theological

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sermon can we talk can we talk rather

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than just shouting over each other one

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second audience audience second up for

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the hit Christians and I'm telling you

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now the Christians are starting to stand

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up we're not having it no more right

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okay that's as simple as that

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right and so do do do do you trust do

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you mistrust all Muslims trust is built

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through known people right hold on hold

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on listen so how do you trust Pastor

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mccon why don't you go to his church for

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6 months then come out and tell me he's

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a bigot he's not a bot he's a man of God

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who's turned around and brought

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Catholics and Protestants to Gallia for

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40 years George is a skarm monger

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everywhere he goes he wants media

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attention he wants to turn around get

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his face on TV he's a stonger and that's

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all he's here doing away back to Britain

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thank you very much

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if as far as uh as as far as I can see

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there's only one person shouting here

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and it's you you can of course reply to

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that the mic gone the mic's gone well go

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ahead there was a rather disturbing

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number of people who found that

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contribution worth applauding uh as

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they're entitled to do uh indeed but

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it's still disturbing if it's not

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disturbing to you it's certainly

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disturbing to me the media did nothing

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in this story he wasn't just speaking in

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his church his sermons are online to the

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world yes and and his words were not man

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ulated who you going to believe me or

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the evidence of your own

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eyes your own eyes your own eyes hold on

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the M look we can't hear you we can't

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hear

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you right you need to you need to let

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George finish you need to let George

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finish thank you go ahead George keep

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going go ahead George who are you going

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to believe me or the evidence of your

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own eyes and your own ears you saw and

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heard what he said he praised Enoch

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Powell he said that pow had been right

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he said that Islam was the spawn of the

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devil he said that he didn't trust

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Muslims he didn't say he didn't trust

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Islam he didn't trust Muslims he said

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there were some some say there are some

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good Muslims in this country maybe so

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but I don't trust them there's young

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lady here white white sure go ahead oh

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hello um I was just um going to response

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to that gentleman's um response there um

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he says it was taken out of context

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Pastor McConnell's uh views but we

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literally just seen him in context in

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front of the whole nation saying yes he

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does not trust Muslims so it is in

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context and and and let's come back

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let's come back to the the issue what do

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you say to you know some politicians are

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pretty M mouth some politicians you know

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Peter Robinson made the point today all

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of a sudden it's all right to mistrust

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all politicians you know hardc come

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that's not similar I believe freedom of

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speech it is an absolute given right

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Peter Robinson standing up for is it not

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we have like the problem with Peter

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Robinson is that he speaks of authority

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and he needs to have like responsibility

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in what he says he has a very very

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public profile and a platform and he

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needs to take responsibility if he has

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those views that's his prerogative and

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last word to you George what do what do

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you think needs to happen now do does

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there need to be Clarity from the first

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and Deputy first Minister do you think

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it's on that scale I think unless Peter

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Robinson comprehensively withdraws the

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things he said this morning then he must

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be deemed not fit for office now I must

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tell you I always thought well that's

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for the northern Irish public to decide

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isn't it not you well it is it is but uh

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as far as I know Peter Robinson wants

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Northern Ireland to be part of the

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United Kingdom as a member of the United

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Kingdom Parliament I'm telling you that

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the overwhelming view in Britain if not

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here in Northern Ireland is that this

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man is not fit for office if these are

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the kind of things he's going to say

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here's my final question because we're

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out of time um it may be a case at the

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next general election who knows what way

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that'll all that'll all turn out but it

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may be the case that the conserv atives

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that that Cameron would need the dup

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support can you see David Cameron taking

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Flack no across the water if he aligns

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himself or joins up with the dup and

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some guys because of how it would be

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interpreted or not will it be gone by

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then a year down the line well uh a year

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will go past uh quickly enough I think

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it would quickly come up again uh but

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David Cameron's fate is of no interest

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to me but the fate of the people here is

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of great and familial and historic

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interest to me and I just feel very sad

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as most people will to hear the kind of

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things we've heard tonight and to hear

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the Applause that Mr bigot there got

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well hold on a

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minute hold

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on okay we're we're out of time ladies

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and Gentlemen please thank our guest

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tonight George

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Galloway thank you

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and off he

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goes he's gone already no roll up roll

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up Duffy circus is in Belfast this week

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but the