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there's a qualitative difference between

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the Holocaust with a capital H

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perpetrated by fascism not just Hitler

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in fact but Romanian fascism Hungarian

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fascism and other Allied fascists uh in

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the 1930s and the

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1940s there's a qualitative difference

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between that and huge loss of life in

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other conflicts and even if you want to

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tally them up though I disputed Tony's

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figure

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Tony from Enfield even if you want to

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say that more people have been killed by

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American Military adventures in Vietnam

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and Cambodia and so on there's still a

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qualitative difference if not a

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quantitative one and here it is the

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Nazis deliberately set out on an

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industrialized process of genocide

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deliberately to eliminate from the face

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of the Earth an entire race of people

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now that's a different thing from even

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millions of people dying as a

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consequence of other conflicts now I'm

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reading at the moment the Third Reich in

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power uh by an English uh Professor

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who in very cold and sober language

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talks us through the uh 1930s it starts

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in 1933 and it ends in 1939 before the

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outbreak of War every everything that

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Hitler said he was going to do he did

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and everything that the fascists did

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upon coming to power in

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1933 was a process deliberately leading

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up to the final solution which was the

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wiping off the face of the Earth of all

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Jews that's what they wanted to do

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because they believed that Jews were

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subhumans un mench they believed that

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Jews were less than human and therefore

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they Justified a whole series of events

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starting from uh putting uh Jewish

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teachers and professors out of the

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schools and the universities and ending

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up in ouit and Treblinka ending up in

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the gas chambers of the Nazi Holocaust

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now the reason why I support and here I

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disagree with n

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chsky and it's maybe the only thing that

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I do disagree with him

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about the reason I supported the

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incarceration of the Holocaust

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revisionist historian David Irving is

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because the real reason why these

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Holocaust deniers deny the Holocaust is

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because secretly and in some cases not

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so secretly they liked the Holocaust

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they're happy about the Holocaust they

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might even and listen to this one John

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they might even like another Holocaust

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this time not against Jews maybe against

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Muslims this time who are equally

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subhuman so far as these fascists are

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concerned if you look at the

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metamorphosis of fascism in Britain

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where once Mosley and the national front

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constantly talked about Jews now the

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target has shifted to Muslims if the BNP

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could come to power in Britain the

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Holocaust denying BNP could come to

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power in Britain it probably wouldn't be

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Jews they put to the gas Chambers it

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would almost certainly be Muslims so

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it's an offense in many European

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countries to deny the Holocaust I think

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it should be an offense here in Britain

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too I think David Irvin should have been

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in prison in Austria and I think they

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should have thrown away the key