1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,200 George Galloway is one of quite a few 2 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:06,120 people today saying Ken Livingston 3 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:08,440 talked about the facts why do you 4 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:10,759 believe it was anti-semitic well George 5 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:13,280 expressed it as ever far better than Ken 6 00:00:10,759 --> 00:00:16,920 Livingston George said Zionism and 7 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:20,760 Nazism are two sides of the same coin 8 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:23,119 now that is clearly not true Nazism was 9 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:25,519 intended to destroy the Jewish people 10 00:00:23,119 --> 00:00:28,760 that was his intention the problem is 11 00:00:25,519 --> 00:00:30,720 that people use anti-zionism to conceal 12 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,360 uh their anti-semitism you say you're 13 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,920 anti-zionist well what you're really 14 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,920 saying is you're against the existence 15 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:38,079 of the state of Israel if you don't want 16 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:40,320 Israel to exist that is clearly 17 00:00:38,079 --> 00:00:42,360 anti-semitic it's not a kind of vaguely 18 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:45,160 nice opinion it's actually a very bad 19 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:47,800 opinion George Galloway no Zionism and 20 00:00:45,160 --> 00:00:50,160 Israel are political constructs if you 21 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:52,680 were for the downfall of the Soviet 22 00:00:50,160 --> 00:00:54,359 Union as John was that didn't mean you 23 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:56,199 hated Russian people in fact you could 24 00:00:54,359 --> 00:00:58,519 say it meant the opposite that you 25 00:00:56,199 --> 00:01:00,519 wanted to liberate the Russian people 26 00:00:58,519 --> 00:01:03,399 from the political system under which 27 00:01:00,519 --> 00:01:05,920 they lived Ken Livingston doesn't have a 28 00:01:03,399 --> 00:01:08,200 racist bone in his body in fact he'd 29 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:11,119 still be the mayor of London if he 30 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:14,200 hadn't gone out on a limb on anti-racist 31 00:01:11,119 --> 00:01:16,560 causes over and over again we cannot 32 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:19,439 allow this conflation it's dangerous for 33 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:21,880 everybody being against Israel is not 34 00:01:19,439 --> 00:01:24,000 being against Jews many Jews are against 35 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:26,159 Israel you've just had one on the screen 36 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,119 L BR do do you accept that that you can 37 00:01:26,159 --> 00:01:29,360 be 38 00:01:27,119 --> 00:01:30,680 anti-israel without being anti-semitic 39 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,960 or do you believe that's is the that's 40 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:35,000 the lie you're it the question is not 41 00:01:32,960 --> 00:01:37,720 about whether you're for or against 42 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:40,720 Israel uh people actually conflate the 43 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:42,960 Israeli State the Israeli government 44 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:45,520 actions the settlers the actions of lud 45 00:01:42,960 --> 00:01:48,079 the statements of Benjamin Netanyahu um 46 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:50,840 people who don't want Israel to exist 47 00:01:48,079 --> 00:01:52,759 among whom uh are a very large number of 48 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,360 people on on the ultra left I don't say 49 00:01:52,759 --> 00:01:57,119 George is one of those but there are 50 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:59,479 people for whom anti-zionism is a shield 51 00:01:57,119 --> 00:02:00,920 behind which they they March they call 52 00:01:59,479 --> 00:02:02,560 Israel 53 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,479 a country with its own Supreme Court 54 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:06,200 that findes against its own government 55 00:02:04,479 --> 00:02:08,599 they call that an aparti st do you 56 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:10,800 accept that some people do do that uh 57 00:02:08,599 --> 00:02:12,640 there are some the anti-Semitism exists 58 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:15,120 it's always existed The Daily Mail used 59 00:02:12,640 --> 00:02:17,000 to fund it but this is a on the left 60 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:20,400 problem you know in particular that some 61 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:22,400 people hide behind being you know anti- 62 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:24,160 uh you know Israel when they are in fact 63 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,760 well there may be some though um I have 64 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,760 to tell you in all honesty I've never 65 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:30,040 met one and Ken Livingston certainly 66 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:32,840 isn't one and Nei is Jeremy Corbin or 67 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:34,959 McDonald this is a synthetic argument 68 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,400 that's being generated here it's a smoke 69 00:02:34,959 --> 00:02:39,200 it's about offense isn't it it's about 70 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:41,440 saying you know find deeply hurt well 71 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:43,800 they've SE seized on legitimate 72 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:47,599 anxieties amongst Jewish people and 73 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:50,120 heart feelings and exploited it need to 74 00:02:47,599 --> 00:02:52,080 bring it up I mean why why why mention 75 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:54,120 Hitler in that answer yesterday 76 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,879 something to do with his age I referenc 77 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:58,519 the second world war all the time it was 78 00:02:55,879 --> 00:03:01,239 our finest Hour the defeat of fascism 79 00:02:58,519 --> 00:03:03,440 the greatest victory of the 20th century 80 00:03:01,239 --> 00:03:07,440 and so on these are uh perhaps age 81 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:10,560 related uh points joh M turn it was an 82 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:12,519 absurd thing to say it was if to say we 83 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:15,040 don't really object to Hitler's earlier 84 00:03:12,519 --> 00:03:17,040 work when he seemed to be Pro Zionist 85 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:20,120 but a bit later he went mad I mean 86 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:22,560 Hitler was a racist and anti-semite 87 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:27,519 throughout his entire career and and to 88 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:30,439 to name him to to um to try to defend 89 00:03:27,519 --> 00:03:32,040 NASA try to defend uh the party from 90 00:03:30,439 --> 00:03:34,680 accusations there's an anti-semitic 91 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:37,360 crisis inside the party is is not just 92 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:39,720 silly it's actually Ken showing he 93 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:42,080 probably should no longer contribute to 94 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,720 public debate Ian George gway I mean um 95 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,560 John M turn quoted you actually ear I 96 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:47,040 mean you know you you had said Nazism 97 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,280 and Zionism with two sides of the same 98 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:52,720 coin well they actually did mint a coin 99 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:55,840 uh to uh use in the program the harara 100 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:57,239 program to ship Jews out of Germany 101 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,920 here's the point but do you think that 102 00:03:57,239 --> 00:04:02,000 some people might take offense to that 103 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:05,640 no Zionism and Nazism for a brief period 104 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:07,319 of time cooperated to get Jews out of 105 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:09,319 Germany because both of them believed 106 00:04:07,319 --> 00:04:10,640 that Jews should not be in Germany the 107 00:04:09,319 --> 00:04:13,560 Zionist believed they should be in 108 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:16,840 Palestine for one set of reasons and the 109 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:19,160 Nazis believed it supported Zionism is 110 00:04:16,840 --> 00:04:21,639 surely a perversion and Zionism was 111 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:23,400 about liberating Jews from it's not look 112 00:04:21,639 --> 00:04:25,199 the the zionists were not Nazis and the 113 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,440 Nazis were not zionists and actually 114 00:04:25,199 --> 00:04:28,360 living if you look at the transcript 115 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,759 Livingston never said that they were he 116 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,360 said that they cooperated together 117 00:04:29,759 --> 00:04:33,639 together and they did that's a matter of 118 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:35,400 historical fact support he said he 119 00:04:33,639 --> 00:04:37,560 support you don't actually need to bring 120 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:40,360 the historian from America you could 121 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:42,080 bring many historians from Israel this 122 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:44,360 is not a secret it's only a secret to 123 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:46,280 those now waking up to it they were 124 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:48,960 cooperating because they had the same 125 00:04:46,280 --> 00:04:50,680 idea that the European Jews should not 126 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,160 be in Europe they should be in Palestine 127 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,560 now what Jeremy Corbin has said and I 128 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,440 think George Galloway has also said is 129 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:57,720 actually this is about you attacking 130 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:59,960 Corbin Jeremy Corbin is doing a 131 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:02,080 perfectly good job of attacking himself 132 00:04:59,960 --> 00:05:05,919 I don't need to do anything his 133 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:08,919 inability to act with decisiveness about 134 00:05:05,919 --> 00:05:12,639 Naas sha was telling his silence today 135 00:05:08,919 --> 00:05:14,120 is telling he's a man who Pals around 136 00:05:12,639 --> 00:05:16,080 with terrorists he calls Hamas and 137 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:19,000 Hezbollah his friends he paled around 138 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:20,960 with the paral IRA he's a man who is not 139 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,560 trusted and can't be trusted he can't 140 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,120 bring himself to say the word Israel he 141 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,280 was the labor friends of Israel 142 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:28,039 fundraiser last year in the in the low 143 00:05:26,280 --> 00:05:32,199 Party Conference couldn't say the word 144 00:05:28,039 --> 00:05:34,880 Israel he does not uh want to see a 145 00:05:32,199 --> 00:05:36,240 two-state solution uh in the Middle East 146 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,280 he wants to see one state and that state 147 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,800 would be 148 00:05:37,280 --> 00:05:42,199 Palestine as I was about to say before I 149 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:45,199 was rudely interrupted on Channel 4 News 150 00:05:42,199 --> 00:05:48,639 this evening the truth is that this 151 00:05:45,199 --> 00:05:51,080 so-called anti-Semitism scare that has 152 00:05:48,639 --> 00:05:53,520 been mounted against the labor party and 153 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:56,240 its leader Jeremy Corbin is a smokees 154 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:59,199 screen it's a smoke screen to hide the 155 00:05:56,240 --> 00:06:02,280 slow moving coup that began against 156 00:05:59,199 --> 00:06:05,000 Jeremy Corbin almost on the day and hour 157 00:06:02,280 --> 00:06:08,759 that he was elected here's what they're 158 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:12,080 trying to do create as much chaos in the 159 00:06:08,759 --> 00:06:15,800 labor party and as much electoral damage 160 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:19,120 as they possibly can and then say we too 161 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:22,479 much chaos here we need a new leader 162 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:26,400 that's the game that is a foot sadik 163 00:06:22,479 --> 00:06:28,919 Khan is right at the center of this coup 164 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:30,080 and don't reward them with any first 165 00:06:28,919 --> 00:06:32,240 preference vote 166 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:34,000 if you're a Jeremy Corbin supporter I'm 167 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:37,000 George Galloway and I approve this 168 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,000 message