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uh first up though we're going to be

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talking live in the studio to George

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Galloway the respect candidate for L May

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who joins me Good morning George good

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morning good morning to you um so first

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question I've asked all of the

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candidates we've spoken to of course if

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you just tuned in we have spoken to all

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of the leading candidates for London

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mayor um why are you standing well I

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think London needs a leader not a reader

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not a desiccated calculating machine and

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as the financial times editorial no less

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at the weekend said the leading two

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candidates are lilip puchan now um Zack

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Goldsmith is extremely tall and uh sadik

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Khan isn't but I think that lilipan is a

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good uh description and the Ft uh got

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their comment right and so I think uh as

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a big world city uh London needs a big

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figure a bigger figure than the front

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two uh to lead it and I've got a raft of

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policies which would radically change

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London and I emphas ize the word

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radically it's not a word that uh should

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be hidden from because London is

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basically A Tale of Two Cities it's the

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1% dripping in gold and it's the rest

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struggling to get by and the 1% can look

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after themselves the rest need a mayor

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on their side and I would be on their

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side you however you're fully paid up

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member of the 1% aren't you so why would

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you be the best person to represent the

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order folk you weren't 50 Grand a couple

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last year didn't you oh very much more

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than that apologize very much more than

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that for that Mr uh Mr Ben was uh a very

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rich man but he was on the side of the

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people who weren't and I'm on the side

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of the people who weren't too okay tell

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me what are you going to do your first

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day as London may tell me the top three

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things you're going to do I'm going to

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send my Emissary over to the square mile

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just across the river and tell them that

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the party is over the bankers the city

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the Slickers the sir Philip greens or

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lady green as we now discover have made

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off with hundreds of millions of pounds

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whilst leaving the workers of BHS what

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you going to do I'm going to send my

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Emissary over there and tell them that

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things are going to have to change don't

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have you don't have any powers you're

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London mayor not the chancellor no but I

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do have a pull pit and I'm quite good at

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uh speaking in the pull pit but are you

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go to getting things to change what are

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you going to do I ask I'm going to begin

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a campaign to mobilize London to clean

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up the city of London most people agree

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with that after all our country was

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brought to its knees by these people and

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we've suffered eight years of what they

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call austerity which means poverty and

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pressure for most people wait a we've

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had we've had eight years we've had

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eight years of that we've had people

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calling for that we've had occupying

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movements we've had call we a may but

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you think that you've got the power as

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London mayor because of the the position

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that has that that will that will

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I have a lot of power to influence the

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uh atmosphere in London about this

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square mile which is exceptionally uh

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described as a tax Haven inside our own

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Capital City it also of course brings in

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an awful lot of money to London does it

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not what else are you going to do

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because a lot of people would say look

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you know we want to keep the cities

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thriving in London because an awful lot

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of people employed by not just the fat

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cats you know the the the people who

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work at the lower levels on average

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incomes the cleaners everybody else well

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they call that trickle down that if

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these fat cats get enough money then

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some of it will trickle down but it

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turns out from the Panama papers that it

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doesn't trickle down it gets stashed

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away it gets stashed away still have

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jobs in the who aren't on six fig

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salaries and it gets uh I'm sure you do

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uh it gets on normal average salaries

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gets uh it gets stashed in the Bahamas

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and in Panama and it's just not good

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enough that's not the London we want

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it's not the Britain is there anything

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else you're going to do as London mayor

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or you yeah I'm think I'm thinking that

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was reasonable you're still talking

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about the first one no that's because

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you kept interrupting me the second one

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I'm going to ask to see the commissioner

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of the Metropolitan Police and tell him

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that the London Police Force needs to

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start looking like London it's the 23rd

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anniversary of the foul murder of Steven

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Lawrence and the police collaboration

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with his killers that allowed uh most of

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them to evade Justice entirely and some

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for a very long time and after that

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murar mcferson opined that the

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Metropolitan Police was institutionally

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racist so you you want to have more

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black and Asian police officers I sure

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do and London are we not already trying

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that my my understanding is there are

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nonstop campaigns to try and bring in

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more ethnic minority police officers the

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number of minority police officers has

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gone down not up no but there are plenty

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of campaigns to try and encourage that

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you need to ask why the numbers have

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gone down and the numbers have gone down

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because the police tend to act in

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certain communities as an occupation

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force and they they react to minority

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officers in their ranks with the famous

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Infamous canteen culture which uh drives

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them out so the London police force will

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have to look like London and it will

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have to be led by people who look like

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London and it'll have to stop

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discriminating on other grounds have to

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be led by do you mean we have to have a

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black or Asian Metropolitan Police CH is

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that what you me very good idea no but

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are you going to impose for instance any

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quotas for people that would be that

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would be an exceedingly good idea quas

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you want to have quas for the color of

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offices no no I'm saying the leadership

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of the force by a black or minority

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officer would be an exceedingly good

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idea but I have an important point if I

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may uh people are discriminated against

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by the police in this city not just on

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the color of their skin but the color of

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their shirt collar if you pick someone's

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pocket in Liverpool Street Station

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you'll very quickly be behind bars but

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if you pick the bank's pocket of 10 2030

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million you've almost no chance of going

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to jail I think I think many people

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listening would agree with you on that

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what's your third policy my third policy

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is on housing we need millions of

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council houses Council housing is the

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best form of rented tenure we have 2

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million people in the private rented

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sector most of them by the way

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representing a huge subsidy from the

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taxpayer to private landlords through

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the housing benefit uh scheme those 2

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million private renters change house on

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average every three years their children

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have to change schools change friends

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and all the rest of it it's a ticking

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time bomb and most of them are uh in

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houses that are being rented to them for

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no other reason than money we discussed

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housing with every candidate who's

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coming and everyone says they've all got

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very specific ideas but how how many new

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houses are you going to build and how

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are you going to fund Council I'm going

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to demand that councils be allowed to

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borrow to build Council houses cuz it's

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costly to build but it's more costly not

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to because the uh social cleansing

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that's going on in London where

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workingclass people are having to move

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out uh and displaced by luxury

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development by private developers the

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kind of people people who are paying for

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the election campaigns of my two Rivals

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uh simply has to stop if we look along

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the river here at the uh battery power

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station development only 8% of those

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houses are defined as affordable and

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affordable is defined as 80% of the

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average rents it's not affordable at all

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you have to be rich to afford the

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affordable house never mind the others

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so any developer will have to Prov

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provide 50% of the units as affordable

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and that will be defined as 50% not 80

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of the of the uh the average rents in

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the area and there's 600,000 houses in

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London that are empty because they

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weren't bought as Homes at all they were

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bought as safety deposit boxes and

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they're left empty and they're left

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empty can I ask you uh we've got a lot

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to get through in the next uh uh 20

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minutes or so um you claim on your

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website that you want to be the people's

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May if you're elected but um not many

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people in London seem to agree with you

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you seem to be on roughly not per in the

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polls I don't know how you can be on not

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percent in the poll you know perfectly

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well how that would mean your own wife

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was it means that if you round up or

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down no it doesn't it means if you round

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up or down on the polls that that you're

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closer to not per than 1% so why don't

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people in London agree with you well you

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if you repres have no idea what the

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result of the election will be

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thankfully and neither do I these polls

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are propaganda not polling my name is

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isn't even put to the respondent in the

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polls and I have dozens of examples uh

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uh affidavits to prove it so if you put

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an opinion poll to people and you don't

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even mention the name of one of the

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candidates then of course you're not

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going to get much of a response I've

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this is a conspiracy against you well it

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is I've been systematically uh blanked

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out as you know from all of the hustings

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98% to be precise is that when they just

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had the top five candidates uh had the

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top five but then you're not in the top

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five well according to every bookmaker

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everyone on every day of the campaign

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I'm the third favorite I'm the Best

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Known candidate and I'm the third

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favorite of The Bookies who have to put

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their money where their mouth is so to

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be blanked out of television and radio

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and uh other so-called NGO hustings is a

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pretty big uh disadvantage so as you can

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tell from my voice I've had to take to

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the top of an open top bus and take my

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message directly to people okay well the

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time is just coming up to 10:45 we have

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to get an update on the Travel I must

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just say um police collaborating with

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the Lawrence Steven Lawrence Killers is

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is George Galloway's view not the view

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of talk radio I must stress that

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something he mentioned earlier coming up

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though on talk radio we'll be talking

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more with George Galloway find out a

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little bit more about what he plans to

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do and why he thinks he'll make a good

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mayor this is talk radio the time is

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10:45 across the UK online and On Da a

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new kind of talk radio we'll get you

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talking you're Philip of grout

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expectations tying yeah Winston wolf I'm

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told your business is expanding its

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territory people are taking notice and

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morning the PO Ross full set breakfast

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mornings with Julia Harley Brewer on

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talking this is talk radio I'm Julia

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Harley BR the time's coming up to 10:48

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I'm in the studio with George Galloway

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the respect candidate for London mayor

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um George you once said in an interview

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in 2013 I like elections more than I

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like serving and certainly when you have

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been an MP very rarely turned up to

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votes in the House of Commons have one

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of the poorest Records On on that front

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is it the case that if you are elected

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London mayor that you'll have preferred

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the election campaign more than the

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serving cuz it's quite a big job running

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one of the world's greatest cities in

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the world isn't it up to it like so much

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uh that's an entire misquotation I

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didn't say you say I did not say that it

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was an interview with total politics

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they tend not to I don't think they're

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renowned for being an anti- Galloway

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organization are they I have the tape

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Julia the uh quotation is that

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Parliament itself is 98% TM and 2%

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terrifying excitement just like he qued

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that as well you said I like I like

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elections more than I like no I didn't I

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have the tape Julia now think if I uh we

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both have the tape and I would like like

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to you A lot of people so you're not I

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do and I'm very successful if people lie

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about you then I think it's right to use

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the law that was created for exactly

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that uh purpose but the uh fact is that

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I am running for mayor I have the

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program to be a successful mayor I think

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I have the uh personality and presence

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to Be an Effective mayor about putting

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that to two people do you think that's

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it's actually just about it's about what

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you say rather than what you do because

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an awful lot of londoners would perhaps

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be interested in a mayor who was going

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to get things done rather than make big

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speeches but the first point I made was

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that I have the program to Be an

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Effective mayor but I do think well you

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said you were going to talk to the city

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and you said you going to talk to the

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Met Chief and then you were going to try

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and bring out the I have to say there's

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a lot of talking involved isn't there

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well of course we've had two Mayors uh

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Ken Livingston and Boris Johnson both of

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them were very big figures and they set

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the tone in the uh City and I think that

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that's necessary and I don't know what

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the tone other than a robotic diic

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incantation that uh that the so-called

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front two would set ours would be very

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clear peace Justice and equality and

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everything that we said and everything

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that we did that we legally were able to

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do would be uh in that direction for

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example uh the uh transport policy of

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letting all of our children travel free

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school children college and university

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students traveling free people say that

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it will not be possible but I will try

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to do it that will be the direction of

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travel if you'll forgive the pun

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children already travel free no they

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don't our students uh don't travel free

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children children not quite sure by

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people who are hardw working in minimum

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wage jobs would want students to be able

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to travel for free when they can't well

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the school children had the uh education

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maintenance allowance stolen from them

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by the last government and the students

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are paying £99,000 a year in tuition

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fees imposed by the labor government and

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then tripled by the last government and

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I think that we need to put something

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back back into the pockets and into the

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incentivizing of our young people to

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stay on and study you talk about why you

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think you'd be a good mayor but you do

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have a history of of perhaps well let's

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put this way you get into an awful lot

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of spats and fights with people you you

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sue a lot of people you fell out with a

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labor party you then fell out with half

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of the respect party was a split you you

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threaten legal action on a regular basis

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yes I accept you do often win um but is

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there an issue where if you're a mayor

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of an international great City like

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London it's about working together it's

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working together with with with housing

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Charities working together with the city

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it's about compromise working with the

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government are you actually as as a

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personality able to work with anyone yes

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indeed I am it doesn't you don't seem to

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have a very good track record of doing

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that do you you say that but then you

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would say that wouldn't you yes you

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would well because based on based on the

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facts I mean you don't I mean for

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instance you know you fell out the labor

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party and fall out toward the labelled

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from the labor party I think that's a

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fair summary I was expelled by Tony

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Blair over the Iraq War I was right

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everybody listening to this knows that I

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was right I'm surprised you've chosen

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that one no no no I'm

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just but best green and bow you stood

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for successfully 2005 and you said you

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wouldn't run again in that seat in stand

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of London but you you ran for election

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in the neighboring seat of pop and

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Limehouse in 2010 despite claiming you

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say being a great constituency MP you

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were not elected then you failed you

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then stood Bradford West by elction 2012

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uh and and then uh you are you doing all

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the talking here Julia you've done PL I

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think you find if you listen back you've

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done plenty of talking but you were

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defeated in 2015 and now you're running

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for mayor of London you've said publicly

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if you don't get this job you're going

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to go sadique Khan's seat in tooting if

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he is elected as he is the front runner

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uh for for mayor um just seems to me

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that you you don't have as strong a

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track record as you seem to claim

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judging by the facts well the facts are

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I've been elected six times to

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Parliament in two countries in four

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constituencies and I served in

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Parliament for almost 30 years that's

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not something everybody has done uh or

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everyone can do so I have a track record

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in politics why did the people of

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Bradford reject you and why did the

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people of Po reject you next door to

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your best green constitu again if you're

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such a good there's no shame in losing

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an election losing a fight the only

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shame is not actually fighting running

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away the only shame is uh crawling on

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your hands and knees to those with whom

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you fundamentally disagree in order to

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carry favor with them I don't do that I

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say what I mean I mean what I say I'm

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straight talking I'm straightforward if

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people vote for it it's good if they

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don't vote for it it won't change what I

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have to say I say what I believe and I

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think most people listening to this know

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it whether they agree with my beliefs or

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not okay you say you say what you mean

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you mean what you say so would you aim

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to make London an Israeli free city as

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you claimed for Bradford in 2014 no uh

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because the power over uh foreign

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affairs is not one currently residing in

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the mealy but let me tell you this as

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the mayor of London I will stand up for

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the Palestinian people and I will oppose

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the crimes of Israel against them that's

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different from the Two Front Runners who

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are in a Dutch auction to abase

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themselves before the aparte state of

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Israel so there's a big difference there

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now that will lose me some votes but I

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can say and do no other that's what I

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why did you think you had the power as

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an MP for Bradford to have an Israeli

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free City I didn't again again is this

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something that's people been something

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people made up you're distorting a lot

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of things people make up about you

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that's why I've won millions of pounds

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did you hear that figure millions of

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pounds in Damages because they yes just

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make it up look no MP can ban anyone

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from anywhere but you'd like to so it I

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you'd like you'd like to ban Israeli

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academics from from London is that right

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I want a total boycott youd like

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aparte and I did by the way during the

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South African aparte experience I even

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went underground in South Africa to try

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and undermine aparte there and I'm very

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proud about it and by the end almost

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everyone was boycotting aparti South

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Africa and as long as God gives me

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breath I'll try to get almost everyone

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uh boycotting aparti Israel um you you

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say you you'd be a good man and an

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advocate for this city um

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I wonder we had a Twitter exchange

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yesterday during which time you you

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tweeted me I despise you and always have

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said I had a posh voice but no class and

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referred to me in a tweet to someone

539
00:21:10,120 --> 00:21:15,679
else saying this kind of malice runs

540
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:17,080
through her veins and drips out um do

541
00:21:15,679 --> 00:21:18,400
you think this is a sort of language

542
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,720
that's becoming of someone who wants to

543
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,159
be mayor of one of the greatest cities

544
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:25,799
in the in the world well of course the

545
00:21:22,159 --> 00:21:28,679
exchange began with you Tweeting a fake

546
00:21:25,799 --> 00:21:32,440
tweet about me you did that as a

547
00:21:28,679 --> 00:21:36,279
provocation you did it to dredge the

548
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:39,120
pond to get the the people of the depths

549
00:21:36,279 --> 00:21:40,520
out on your side in this interview I

550
00:21:39,120 --> 00:21:43,279
don't need people to be on my side you

551
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,559
shouldn't have done it explain to those

552
00:21:43,279 --> 00:21:46,400
people who have lives and aren't on

553
00:21:44,559 --> 00:21:49,120
Twitter on Sunday evenings like George

554
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:51,679
and myself um I I I tweeted out that I

555
00:21:49,120 --> 00:21:53,159
was uh George was on my show and George

556
00:21:51,679 --> 00:21:54,400
retweeted that and I looked at my phone

557
00:21:53,159 --> 00:21:56,400
again and I there was a tweet that

558
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,880
purported it was a very good a very good

559
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,080
spoof account looks just like yours when

560
00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,799
you just look at the tweet

561
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,320
uh saying things you would not discuss

562
00:22:00,799 --> 00:22:04,080
and I retweeted it pointing out well I

563
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,559
I'll decide who what the questions are

564
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,080
someone as soon as I saw someone pointed

565
00:22:05,559 --> 00:22:08,640
out oh no that's a spoof account I

566
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,720
deleted it and I sent out an apology

567
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:12,919
apologies that tweet was was from a

568
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,919
spoof account have deleted it I then

569
00:22:12,919 --> 00:22:18,360
spent the evening being berated by you

570
00:22:14,919 --> 00:22:19,960
and abused by you um demanding that I

571
00:22:18,360 --> 00:22:21,640
demanding that I apologize for something

572
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:24,919
and I tweeted the apology back to you to

573
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:26,440
say I have apologize um but do you not

574
00:22:24,919 --> 00:22:28,039
think that the people of London

575
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:30,400
particularly those who are getting up

576
00:22:28,039 --> 00:22:31,880
not allit selfer that's exactly what I

577
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,120
want to get to do you not think that the

578
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,559
people who are getting up at 4:00 or 5:

579
00:22:33,120 --> 00:22:37,000
in the morning to go and do cleaning

580
00:22:34,559 --> 00:22:39,120
jobs and doing a slog across the city on

581
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:41,240
on you know slow running buses and

582
00:22:39,120 --> 00:22:43,279
living in substandard Council housing

583
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:45,559
would rather have a mayor who spent

584
00:22:43,279 --> 00:22:47,919
their time worrying about those issues

585
00:22:45,559 --> 00:22:49,880
rather than someone who accidentally

586
00:22:47,919 --> 00:22:51,919
sent a tweet out you spent you sp you

587
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:54,120
sent innumerable number of tweets about

588
00:22:51,919 --> 00:22:55,640
this are you is there a worry do you

589
00:22:54,120 --> 00:22:57,720
think a legit legitimate concern that

590
00:22:55,640 --> 00:23:00,120
you may just be an egomaniac it's not uh

591
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:02,600
innumerable it's precisely six and you

592
00:23:00,120 --> 00:23:04,360
didn't apologize to me the person that

593
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,000
you even though I wrote apologies and it

594
00:23:04,360 --> 00:23:09,279
had act Geor Gallow in it that's not an

595
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:11,559
apolog to me and you ought to have I'm

596
00:23:09,279 --> 00:23:14,760
surprised that in the limited time

597
00:23:11,559 --> 00:23:17,279
available to us you want to bog us down

598
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:19,039
but let me tell you candidly I don't

599
00:23:17,279 --> 00:23:21,159
believe that you made a

600
00:23:19,039 --> 00:23:22,640
mistake conspiracy deliberately well

601
00:23:21,159 --> 00:23:25,279
you're a journal deliberately as a

602
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:27,480
journalist sent out a spoofy let talk

603
00:23:25,279 --> 00:23:31,000
about you as a journalist you say it was

604
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:32,320
a very you said it was a very good spoof

605
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,480
a lot you had a lot of people tweeting

606
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:37,200
you point instead of two L's in the

607
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:39,520
middle of my name it had two eyes now if

608
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,960
you're journalistic standard yes it did

609
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,640
I know it well just in case anyone's

610
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:45,360
wondering a capital I and an L look

611
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,159
remarkably similar when someone got the

612
00:23:45,360 --> 00:23:48,760
same not to a journalist one would have

613
00:23:47,159 --> 00:23:51,000
hoped a journalist who was sitting in a

614
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:53,760
car looking at her iPhone moving car

615
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:56,760
thought a journalist might have spotted

616
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:58,440
that this was a malicious fake account

617
00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:02,480
and who then immediately when she did

618
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:05,200
sent out an apology Julia do not you

619
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:07,960
saying George but this is the point you

620
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:10,799
spend your time obsessing about things

621
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:12,320
like this and that is something that I

622
00:24:10,799 --> 00:24:14,240
think a lot of ordinary people who want

623
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:16,120
someone to represent them in a city

624
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:18,320
where as you say it's Run for the 1% in

625
00:24:16,120 --> 00:24:20,960
the metropolitan Elite people like

626
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:24,200
yourself earning way into six figure

627
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:26,000
sums um and and and you know enjoying

628
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,919
life perhaps you should have better

629
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:31,320
things to worry about well let me tell

630
00:24:27,919 --> 00:24:34,640
you why careless talk costs lives I have

631
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:37,200
been multiply physically attacked you

632
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:41,000
have and that's outrageous by people by

633
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:43,399
people who are whipped up by the kind of

634
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:45,840
falsehood that you tweeted last night

635
00:24:43,399 --> 00:24:47,600
now I could show you my scars but I

636
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,440
won't I have to point out he's not

637
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,559
wearing his hat I'm not wearing my hat

638
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:55,440
but I usually wear my hat because my

639
00:24:51,559 --> 00:24:57,440
head is scarred my ribs were broken my

640
00:24:55,440 --> 00:25:00,039
back was injured it's absolutely apping

641
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:02,279
that you were physically still limping

642
00:25:00,039 --> 00:25:06,080
and the people who carry out these

643
00:25:02,279 --> 00:25:09,399
attacks are whipped up by the kind of

644
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:12,000
fake propaganda that you retweeted it's

645
00:25:09,399 --> 00:25:13,600
quite serious actually Julia I I didn't

646
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,559
say it was anything but serious I think

647
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,200
I'm Absol apped by the fact that anyone

648
00:25:15,559 --> 00:25:19,039
in a democracy running for office should

649
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:22,000
ever be physically attacked I was in

650
00:25:19,039 --> 00:25:24,440
office exact but the point is that the

651
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:27,360
point is I what I I'm concerned about is

652
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:29,320
that you look can we move on Julia I've

653
00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:31,840
got so much else we do have lots to talk

654
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,200
about okay well let's move on then um

655
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,840
would you agree to appear on a reality

656
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,200
TV show while you're mayor of London as

657
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,559
you did with Celebrity Big Brother while

658
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:40,640
you were supposed to be an MP for Beth

659
00:25:37,559 --> 00:25:42,760
green and bow in 2006 no I did that

660
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:46,000
because it was the Christmas holidays

661
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:48,960
and the uh very substantial sum of money

662
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:51,559
I raised for the refugees in Gaza when

663
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:53,640
no one else cared about them but I had

664
00:25:51,559 --> 00:25:55,360
done it I won't do it again and I

665
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,399
certainly wouldn't do it if I was mayor

666
00:25:55,360 --> 00:25:59,159
and you certainly wouldn't wear a red

667
00:25:56,399 --> 00:26:02,399
leotard again has that dogged you

668
00:25:59,159 --> 00:26:04,840
uh no uh it's an obsession you're not

669
00:26:02,399 --> 00:26:06,320
embarrassed by it uh of course uh people

670
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,440
are embarrassed by all kinds of things

671
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:11,240
in the you embarrassed I did it I did it

672
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:14,840
for charity people are you embarrassed

673
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:16,760
by it people yes people tend to uh do

674
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:19,120
embarrassing things for charity and

675
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:21,200
that's all I did okay um your company

676
00:26:19,120 --> 00:26:24,559
Miranda media went into Administration

677
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:27,760
over what the uh hmlc claims is a 00,000

678
00:26:24,559 --> 00:26:29,720
unpaid tax bill I know you have disputed

679
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:32,200
that yeah um how can you claim to be

680
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,840
able to run a city a multi-billion pound

681
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,720
City if you can't run a small company

682
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:38,000
well make up your mind um a few minutes

683
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,640
ago you were saying I was one of the 1%

684
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,080
oh you earn a lot of money didn't no no

685
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,559
I'm not disputing whether you earn a lot

686
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:45,799
of money that's not the same as running

687
00:26:42,559 --> 00:26:47,679
a company am I am I successful or am I

688
00:26:45,799 --> 00:26:49,240
not you're very rich and very successful

689
00:26:47,679 --> 00:26:51,360
that doesn't mean you run a company well

690
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:54,360
there's a disputed tax bill for a

691
00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:56,520
liquidated company it's being negotiated

692
00:26:54,360 --> 00:26:58,720
now it's not proper to discuss it on the

693
00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,000
air okay but uh the the fact you've had

694
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,120
to gone in that company went into

695
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:05,279
Administration yes it did because the

696
00:27:02,120 --> 00:27:08,399
main customer of the company was subject

697
00:27:05,279 --> 00:27:10,159
to sanctions and uh couldn't uh pay the

698
00:27:08,399 --> 00:27:12,399
money couldn't bring money here okay and

699
00:27:10,159 --> 00:27:15,000
a lot of your earnings say in terms of

700
00:27:12,399 --> 00:27:16,399
De declaration in 2014 from TV work

701
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,520
alone you say you've earned far more

702
00:27:16,399 --> 00:27:20,919
than this you earn £

703
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:22,559
239,000 Plus £70,000 in expenses at what

704
00:27:20,919 --> 00:27:24,399
tax rate do you pay because you've said

705
00:27:22,559 --> 00:27:26,440
you want to close all tax loopholes what

706
00:27:24,399 --> 00:27:28,919
tax rate do you pay on that income uh

707
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,320
top you pay top rate you don't that's

708
00:27:28,919 --> 00:27:32,080
not a private that's not a personal

709
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:34,559
service company on which you pay 21%

710
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:36,399
corporations ta rather than 45% the

711
00:27:34,559 --> 00:27:39,080
amount that the company earns isn't all

712
00:27:36,399 --> 00:27:41,519
for me we have employees and we have

713
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:44,919
costs you do um and in terms of your the

714
00:27:41,519 --> 00:27:48,039
people who do uh employ you uh press tv

715
00:27:44,919 --> 00:27:50,480
owned by the Uranian government uh RT a

716
00:27:48,039 --> 00:27:52,720
Russian government owned uh show there's

717
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,480
also some question marks over uh Al

718
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,159
mayadin you worked for in 2012 which

719
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,880
there were claims I'm not in a position

720
00:27:56,159 --> 00:27:59,919
to prove or disprove these that they had

721
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,640
going with the Syrian government um do

722
00:27:59,919 --> 00:28:03,519
do you ever worry that your associations

723
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,559
with totalitarian governments actually

724
00:28:03,519 --> 00:28:07,760
undermines your claim to to be for the

725
00:28:05,559 --> 00:28:09,279
people well I work for all kinds of

726
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,000
people and it's unfortunate that you

727
00:28:09,279 --> 00:28:12,960
should pose the question in that way

728
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:15,600
because you know that I am precluded

729
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:18,559
from adumbrating all the people who

730
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:21,559
employ me so it's an unfortunately but

731
00:28:18,559 --> 00:28:23,799
you choose to work for you choose people

732
00:28:21,559 --> 00:28:26,600
broadcasting Oran I work for all kinds

733
00:28:23,799 --> 00:28:28,720
of people but unfortunately uh for legal

734
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,159
reasons I'm not allowed nothing to do

735
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,200
with legal reasons George why do you

736
00:28:30,159 --> 00:28:35,519
work for press tv why do you why do you

737
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:37,799
work for I work for I work for anyone

738
00:28:35,519 --> 00:28:39,960
who give me will you please let me

739
00:28:37,799 --> 00:28:42,399
finish I'll work for anyone who will

740
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:45,320
give me a show that they don't interfere

741
00:28:42,399 --> 00:28:48,039
in no one tells me what to say or what I

742
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:51,200
can't say That's the basis on which I do

743
00:28:48,039 --> 00:28:54,640
the shows now I work for lots of people

744
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:57,080
some of whom are not uh foreign owned uh

745
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:59,679
broadcasters but I'm not able to fully

746
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:01,039
explain that as you will no yeah uh but

747
00:28:59,679 --> 00:29:03,720
you choose to work for an organization

748
00:29:01,039 --> 00:29:05,960
that is owned by the Russian government

749
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,360
um where and and and an or organization

750
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,200
owned by the Iranian government are you

751
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,159
aware of how gay people are treated in

752
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,679
Iran and in Russia and does it bother

753
00:29:11,159 --> 00:29:15,159
you given that you're about to you hope

754
00:29:12,679 --> 00:29:17,799
to be mayor for a city where an awful

755
00:29:15,159 --> 00:29:19,399
lot of gay people live and and work and

756
00:29:17,799 --> 00:29:21,399
how are gay people treated in Russia

757
00:29:19,399 --> 00:29:23,600
remind me I think I think you know

758
00:29:21,399 --> 00:29:26,600
perfectly well very people can be

759
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:28,760
imprisoned simp for homosexual acts in

760
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,519
in in Russia

761
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,679
do that doesn't bother you do you know

762
00:29:30,519 --> 00:29:34,799
anything about which you talk no

763
00:29:32,679 --> 00:29:37,720
apparently not that's completely untrue

764
00:29:34,799 --> 00:29:40,240
you're quite happy I like Russia and I

765
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:43,159
like the foreign policy of the Russian

766
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:45,880
government I am against many of their

767
00:29:43,159 --> 00:29:49,080
domestic policies economic and social

768
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:52,480
including their policy on the so-called

769
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:54,320
promotion of homosexuality which is the

770
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,919
based on actually the British government

771
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:59,320
Margaret Thatcher's policy of clause 28

772
00:29:56,919 --> 00:30:01,440
or 31 depending on where you lived in

773
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:04,279
the country which I was one of the

774
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:07,279
leading opponents of I was commended by

775
00:30:04,279 --> 00:30:09,640
Stonewall for my support for gay rights

776
00:30:07,279 --> 00:30:11,679
long before they became gay rights in

777
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:14,000
Britain you yes exemplary record on no

778
00:30:11,679 --> 00:30:15,720
question absolutely so you're quite

779
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,480
happy of foreign governments do don't

780
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,880
people the same way I'm not I'm not but

781
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:22,320
you're happy to take their money I'm

782
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:24,240
happy to broadcast my show on any

783
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,960
platform that will not interfere in what

784
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,960
I say okay George Galloway thank you

785
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,919
very much for joining us we are overtime

786
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:32,039
George Galloway is the respect candidate

787
00:30:29,919 --> 00:30:33,760
for London May on the 5th of May he's

788
00:30:32,039 --> 00:30:37,000
the final one of the candidates the

789
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,000
leading candidates we've been talking to