1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,359 George Galloway British MP is with us 2 00:00:02,159 --> 00:00:06,640 now on the line from London Mr Galloway 3 00:00:04,359 --> 00:00:09,160 I believe you were one of the MPS who 4 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:11,920 raised that issue of Israel's weapons 5 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:14,400 and the concerns about them what kind of 6 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:16,840 response uh did you and those who were 7 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:19,640 making similar calls 8 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:23,680 get well as always there's a double 9 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:26,519 standard employed the whole regime of 10 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:30,560 sanctions which has caused so much pain 11 00:00:26,519 --> 00:00:34,960 in Iran was imposed because of the fear 12 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:38,840 that Iran might one day make a nuclear 13 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:42,440 weapon while Israel has as you just said 14 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:43,640 hundreds of nuclear weapons not only is 15 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:47,680 it not 16 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:51,440 sanctioned it is endlessly rewarded with 17 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:54,800 more and more money and more diplomatic 18 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:58,120 and political support so although the 19 00:00:54,800 --> 00:01:00,719 British government has on its attitude 20 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:04,320 to the Islamic Republic 21 00:01:00,719 --> 00:01:07,920 we are still some way off from forcing 22 00:01:04,320 --> 00:01:09,960 the British government to move on its 23 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:12,119 relationship 24 00:01:09,960 --> 00:01:14,360 State well a lot of people were 25 00:01:12,119 --> 00:01:17,640 suggesting Mr Galloway that this nuclear 26 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:19,759 deal now between Iran and the six Powers 27 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:22,400 is going to bring Israel's nuclear 28 00:01:19,759 --> 00:01:25,360 weapons program to the four now and uh 29 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:27,680 make it more you know uh visible that it 30 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:30,280 is the party that hasn't signed the MPT 31 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:31,840 it's the only entity uh with nuclear 32 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:34,159 weapons in the Middle East do you think 33 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:37,079 these issues are going to come up now 34 00:01:34,159 --> 00:01:39,079 with concerns about Iran's uh nuclear 35 00:01:37,079 --> 00:01:42,280 program being 36 00:01:39,079 --> 00:01:45,280 elid I do think so uh I mean some of us 37 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:49,000 have been making this very point for 38 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:51,880 more than 30 years since M vanunu told 39 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:54,960 us about Israel's nuclear weapons he 40 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:58,680 having worked in the nuclear weapons 41 00:01:54,960 --> 00:02:01,719 plant at the Mona in the ne in occupied 42 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:05,119 Palestine but you're right now that 43 00:02:01,719 --> 00:02:09,399 there's been all this H Baloo about Iran 44 00:02:05,119 --> 00:02:14,640 and nuclear questions it uh it unveils 45 00:02:09,399 --> 00:02:18,000 all over again the grotesque truth that 46 00:02:14,640 --> 00:02:21,360 the country which talks most about 47 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:24,519 Iran's nuclear question is the country 48 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:27,120 which is illegally holding hundreds of 49 00:02:24,519 --> 00:02:31,000 nuclear weapons which have never been 50 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:35,440 inspected which are subject to no Tre 51 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:38,200 and Israel refuses even to confirm that 52 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:41,280 which we all know to be true that it is 53 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:44,319 a nuclear weapons power so the demand 54 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:47,440 will grow for a nuclear weapons free 55 00:02:44,319 --> 00:02:50,480 Middle East and that requires the 56 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:52,720 destruction of Israel's nuclear weapons 57 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:55,319 Armory and how big of a threat do you 58 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:57,519 see Israel's nuclear weapons and its 59 00:02:55,319 --> 00:02:59,440 nuclear weapons program because some 60 00:02:57,519 --> 00:03:01,040 people who are supporting Israel's 61 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,519 position as are saying that Israel 62 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:05,440 shouldn't be seen as a nuclear threat in 63 00:03:03,519 --> 00:03:08,360 the region and it hasn't threatened 64 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:10,959 anyone with the use of nuclear 65 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:13,319 weapons well it hasn't threatened anyone 66 00:03:10,959 --> 00:03:17,200 with the use of nuclear weapons because 67 00:03:13,319 --> 00:03:21,239 it lies about the fact that it has them 68 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:25,959 but its military power is underpinned by 69 00:03:21,239 --> 00:03:28,680 this nuclear weapons uh status however 70 00:03:25,959 --> 00:03:33,519 must tell you that nuclear weapons are 71 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:36,920 useless against uh a people who refus to 72 00:03:33,519 --> 00:03:40,200 be intimidated by them if the Iranian 73 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:43,439 people had been frightened or 74 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:46,080 intimidated by Israel's nuclear weapons 75 00:03:43,439 --> 00:03:48,400 they would have surrendered all their 76 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:50,879 rights but they have refused to 77 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:53,920 surrender their rights because they are 78 00:03:50,879 --> 00:03:58,439 not afraid of Israel however many 79 00:03:53,920 --> 00:04:01,599 nuclear weapons she has so nuclear 80 00:03:58,439 --> 00:04:04,439 weapons of the the the nearest thing to 81 00:04:01,599 --> 00:04:07,680 a complete waste of money that it's 82 00:04:04,439 --> 00:04:10,560 possible to imagine because you can 83 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:15,040 never use them if Israel were to use 84 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:18,680 them for example against an Arab country 85 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:22,079 or against Iran God forbid of course the 86 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:24,960 wind would blow and people in all the 87 00:04:22,079 --> 00:04:29,560 surrounding countries would be affected 88 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:30,280 for centuries to come so you can't use 89 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:33,840 the 90 00:04:30,280 --> 00:04:37,600 weapons and all they are is an 91 00:04:33,840 --> 00:04:40,080 intimidatory and bullying threat but the 92 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:43,120 people like the Palestinians and the 93 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:46,000 Iranians for that matter refuse to be 94 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:48,039 intimidated refuse to be bullied well 95 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:50,240 the weapons are next to 96 00:04:48,039 --> 00:04:52,280 useless thank you very much George 97 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:55,840 Galloway British MP with us there on the 98 00:04:52,280 --> 00:04:55,840 line from London