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George Galloway perard such TSH Mr

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Speaker This House of Commons continued

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its

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adversarial bare pit unarmed political

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combat throughout the darkest days of

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the second world

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war Mr Churchill didn't ask for

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Parliament to be

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silenced for confrontations across the

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house to be

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forbidden when our soldiers were being

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laid waste in the Norway debate the

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House of Commons

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Rose perhaps to its

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finest 20th century moment nobody said

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our armed forces have suffered a

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disaster the House of Commons cannot

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meet The Clash of ideas cannot be heard

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we must muffle the drums and silence

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ourselves at dunck the house clashed

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without pause

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was real war leaders like Mr Churchill

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understood that the whole point of us

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being here the whole point of democracy

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the whole point of Elections is that we

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do not

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suspend normal political activity we

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honorable gentlemen give way happily I

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have a lot to say and I may take some

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time to say it I'm very grateful to The

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Honorable Gent he's missed the rather

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important point that between 1939 and

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1945 general elections were suspended so

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democracy was suspended during the war

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and his history is

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faulty actually there were many

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by-elections some of them producing

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spectacular results as spectacular as

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the one in Bradford West just over a

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year ago but in any case is anyone

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suggesting that an iron Bavon did didn't

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stand on these benches

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lacerating real war leaders about their

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conduct of the

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war The Honorable gentleman is a scholar

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and a gentleman he knows very well the

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words of Mr Amory from his side at that

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Darkest Hour in the Norway debate which

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brought about the

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defenestration of the Prime Minister and

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the coming to office of Mr Churchill

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about whom more much more later we did

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not suspend our democracy in our Darkest

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Hours why are we suspending it

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no it was said from one of the

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Ironclad consensus on the front benches

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that this was a national funeral

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I'm sorry but it is not a national

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funeral you can only have a national

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funeral where there is a national

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consensus about the person being buried

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and that consensus does not

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exist in relation to Mrs thata and no

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matter how

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oft people from the front benches fa

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upon her poor honeyed words upon her

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even outside of this house of course

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tell lies about her and her

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record that won't

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change and the British establishment is

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making a profound misjudgment here in a

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and the opposition parties in particular

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are making a profound misjudgment if

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they imagine that there are not tens of

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millions of people in the country all of

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whom have votes who are very angry about

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a whole range of issues that have

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Arisen and I hope to adumbrate some of

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them in relation to this motion this

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evening Mr Speaker with your permission

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if I was to speak shortly it would be

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that great New York phrase enough

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already we've had enough of this it's

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gone on too long and it's gone too far

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and this put the tin hat on it the idea

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that we should suspend a vital part of

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our Democratic process for a party

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political and private funeral don't get

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me wrong I won't be demonstrating at the

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funeral tomorrow I believe it's wrong to

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demonstrate at someone's

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funeral but I will not agree to suspend

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our democracy so that some of the

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friends of the deceased have to make a

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choice between attending prime

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minister's question time or going to the

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funeral and that's a choice that's up to

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them to make and of course it's very

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clear that they could do both though

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they would have tender sensibilities

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though they may have to come into the

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Bear Pit immediately on their return to

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the house but then that's what they're

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here for that's what they were elected

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to be here

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for Harold

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Wilson who won four general

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elections and didn't receive a

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cintilla of the treatment which the

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British establishment has rolled out for

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the deceased on this occasion said that

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our week was a long time in politics and

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this week has been a very long

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time we were told at the beginning of

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week that

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it was disrespectful to speak of someone

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so recently

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dead I was told on the BBC yesterday I

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should hold my peace until Thursday how

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much National

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morning without consensus and without

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justification are we supposed to

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observe you

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know Mr Speaker how much personal

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respect I have for you

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and so I hope you will accept from me

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that I mean nothing personal in this

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point at all but the decision to muffle

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Ben just after the BBC had muffled ding

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dong summed the whole thing up it has

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FAL there is no National consensus

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around the deceased there was no

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justification for muffling

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Big Ben because that puts the deceased

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On a par with Mr Churchill a very

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divisive

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politician my

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grandparents helped overturn his car

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after the count in Dandee in the

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1930s when he was thrown out of

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parliament in the

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city he vote I will I

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will I wish to correct gentlemen Winston

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Churchill uh then a liberal MP was

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ejected from Dundee in 1922 he served

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1922

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well it's a very it's a very important

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qualification he was can I just say

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because I didn't wish The Honorable

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gentleman to be led away from the path

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of virtue that the point may be of

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interest to Scholars but it is at best

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tangental to the sittings of the house

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motion Mr George Galloway as would have

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been what I was going to say about nedy

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scrimger the great Temperance MP a man

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who's who was Mr Churchill's partner in

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the two constituency a two member

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constituency at that time how we could

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do with some Temperance in the house

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today some prohibition uh in the house

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today at least so far as the honorable

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gentleman for Fook is

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concerned the I do ask the honorable

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gentleman I know he's developing his

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argument if he would be good enough to

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withdraw the reference to an honorable

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member who's not present and to continue

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with his main speech I happily uh

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withdraw it it was unworthy but I do

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have some history with the honorable

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gentlemen and uh hope you'll forgive me

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and the house will forgive me for the

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Unworthy Det tour down Dandy way uh but

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my point is that Mr Churchill was a

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deeply divisive figure man who changed

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uh sides ratted

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ratted a man who was in Parliament out

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of it back

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again a man whose conduct of public

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affairs was very very controversial and

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divisive but by the time he

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died a tiny percentage of the population

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were childish enough to imagine that

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such a man should not be given the full

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21 gun treatment the full gun Carriage

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treatment because virtually everybody in

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this country knows that if it were not

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for Mr

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Churchill either this Parliament would

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not exist or it might be speaking in

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German the very existence of the country

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I argue was saved by by Mr chill that

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makes him worthy of a national funeral

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that's what made him whatever one's

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point of view about his domestic

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politics deserving of the muffling of

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the Chimes of Big Ben deserving of the

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cranes being Lord on the tent no such

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consensus exists you must know this Mr

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Speaker about the deceased in this case

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in vast

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tracks of this land the North

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Wales the industrial areas of this

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country that were reduced to distressed

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areas in Mrs ther's term of office have

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never forgiven her but they're being

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asked to pay for this funeral in fact

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they're not being asked they're being

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told that they must pay for this funeral

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now the deceased was a great proponent

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of private Enterprise and the great

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enemy of public expenditure and the role

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of the state which she wished to shrink

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you were once a devotee of these things

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yourself Mr Speaker but I think uh age

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has brought wisdom in some respects to

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all of

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us but it is an it it is it is an irony

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is it not it is an I mean as Ken l the

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great film director put it surely we

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should have put this funeral out to

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Tender to the private sector and invited

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companies to sponsor it it's what she

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would have wanted surely it's what she

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would have wanted at that time when our

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pensioners are shivering to death

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literally in a Long Winter that

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stretched now into the spring at a time

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where we're virtually nationally

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bankrupt is it right that the public

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should be told not asked but told that

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they must pay for a party political

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funeral I believe not and the public

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have not been consulted about any of

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this and if my post bag has any

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relationship to anyone else's it must be

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obvious that a lot of people are very

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unhappy about the and of course they did

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have one

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chance Mr Speaker I alluded to a moment

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or two go they could download ding- dong

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the song from The Wizard of Oz and they

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did in very large numbers and the state

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broadcaster which has led the

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phoning actually

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censored the music that the public with

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their money in a decision a private

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economic decision that they made Mrs sta

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was a big fan of those private economic

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decision that they made to buy a single

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was then sens

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by the state broadcaster order I was

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just awaiting the conclusion of the

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honorable gentleman's sentence but I

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struggle to see how what he has just

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said relates to the terms of the motion

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the sittings of the house motion to

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which I know it was his intention and is

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now his intention immediately to return

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Mr George Got Away indeed sir of course

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the the backdrop to this cannot be

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separated from it there are many people

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watching this on the parliament Channel

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who know what the backdrop to this well

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well honorable gentlemen May honorable

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gentlemen May honorable gentlemen May

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laugh but that's because they're not

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used to being watched on the parliament

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Channel let me let me let me assure

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them let let Perhaps Perhaps just as

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well perhap they they can't silence me

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Mr Speaker some some members are not for

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turning and I am one of them and better

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men than those have tried to do so I'm

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going to

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be I'm going to be

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cognizant but when I'm here people

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listen unlike unlike unlike some well I

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I have a lot of tweets about the

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speeches that proceeded preceded this

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one Mr Speaker they're not at all

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complimentary uh let me assure you you

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my point is this that the backdrop the

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backdrop the backdrop to this is clear

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and it's been one thing after another as

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Mr McMillan said it's not one damn thing

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it's one damn thing after

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another it's the state mour that was

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effectively declared by the state

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broadcaster it's the decision that the

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government made I understand and the pr

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it's even speculated that

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your office was not wild about the idea

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to recall Parliament at a vast public

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expense offering members of parliament

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up to

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£3,700 to fly back from their holidays

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to attend what was in effect a state

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eulogy for a party political figure then

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fly back at public expense to their

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holidays and I hope that ipsa will be

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releasing the figures of who claimed and

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what they claimed this was a grotesque

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decision totally unnecessary Monday was

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the day when Parliament returned Monday

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was the day when people could have made

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their tributes and paid their tributes

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and made the points that they wish to

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make that was the second problem the

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state M the first the recall unnecessary

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recall fantastically expensive recall of

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parliament was the second

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the muffling of the Chimes of Big Ben

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was the third the Banning of dingdong

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was the fourth and now we have this now

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we have this the shadow leader of the

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House rather politely as is her want

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made the point that there's every belief

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in this house that this prime minister

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likes to avoid prime minister's question

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time if he avoids it tomorrow he will

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avoided it for four weeks four

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consecutive weeks no I I'm at every

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prime minister's question

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so the The Honorable gentlemen I must

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call them opposite I caution them again

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people are listening to this debate and

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cackling like

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hyenas this sturite

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chorus over there would be better would

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be better to show Just a Touch of

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sensitivity to the fact that there are

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millions of people in this country hate

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Margaret Thatcher and those who followed

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her and the Prime Minister if he Dodges

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prime minister's questions tomorrow will

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have dodged them for four consecutive

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weeks now as Mr Wilson said a week's a

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long time in politics four weeks is a

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long time to miss prime minister's

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question the only Mass audience I'd much

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prefer to give way to The Honorable

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gentleman than for him to

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cackle and wobble his ample G from a

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sedentary position I'd much prefer to

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give way to him point of order point of

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order M Jacob Reese MOG if you would

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rule whether such terms of phrase are

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Parliamentary the short answer to the

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honorable gentleman is that what has

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just been said was distasteful but it

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was not disorderly it does not seem to

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have evoked any great display of misery

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on the part of the honorable gentleman

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but I know that the honorable member for

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Bradford West when he comes to speak

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will do so with a degree of calm and

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measurement of words for which I know in

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future years he will want of course to

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be Ned Mr Alex

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shellbrook thank you very much Mr

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Speaker and there was I under the

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impression that The Honorable gentleman

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was a great aitor I'm sure the honorable

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gentleman in re in context to his last

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comments will agree and and congratulate

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this prime minister for making sure that

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Parliament isn't gone for four months

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and indeed bringing the house back in

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September so that he can do those two

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sessions of primary's questions which up

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until recently um just didn't

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happen that's that's actually the best

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point that The Honorable gentleman has

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made all evening it just goes to show

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that points that points made from one's

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feet are usually better than points made

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from a sedentary indeed relaxed

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position it is a fair point that

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Parliament does not retire for the

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summer for as long as it did in our long

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period together Mr Speaker in the House

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of Commons but facts are CHS that WI a

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ding as we say in Scotland every

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Wednesday the Prime Minister should

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stand at the dispatch box and face the

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music of everything that's happened in

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the previous week and for four weeks it

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will have been the case that the Prime

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Minister has not done so at a time when

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the British economy is in Desperate

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trouble the Prime Minister has not been

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able to be questioned about it at a time

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when a budget has come and gone which

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has been near

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universally

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regarded welcomed my goodness I don't

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know where it was welcomed certainly not

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by the financial commentators certainly

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not by the markets certainly not by the

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public certainly not by the opinion

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polls but the Prime Minister has not

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been able to be questioned about it the

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Prime Minister has not been able to be

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questioned about anything for four

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weeks neither domestic nor International

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and our country is involved in very many

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and you'll be very happy that I don't

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seek to dilate upon them Mr Speaker but

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the country is involved in some very

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serious matters overseas also and the

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Prime Minister has not been able to be

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questioned about them and I just feel

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and I think that the attendance here

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this evening indicates that there are

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many who feel whether they're on the

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official opposition or not there are

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many who feel that this has all gone too

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far that an attempt at

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canonization of a person around whom

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there is I see the speaker is frowning I

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speakers a religious man I'm not against

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canonization where it's Justified but

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there has to be a con ensus before one

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can be canonized and no such

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canonization is

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possible from the back benches which I

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think is rather unseemly and members

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can't both Cav at what's being said and

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then make a rockus noise themselves I

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simply say to The Honorable gentleman M

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of Bradford West that I wasn't frowning

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at him I was listening attentively to

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him Mr George Galloway thank you sir the

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point

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is that beatification cannot

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ization is something that can only

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happen when there is a

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consensus there is no such consensus

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about the former prime minister yet

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people are acting the state is acting

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and the state broadcaster and now the

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Parliamentary authorities are asking us

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to

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accept things which are too close to

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Royal you see Mrs thater famously had a

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slightly fraught relationship

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with the palace and I can understand

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why Mrs tcher me to many of The

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Honorable gentlemen opposite have been

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great but she was not to up to 60% of

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the electorate when she was alive and

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according to the polls more than 50% of

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the people now being pulled are against

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her were strongly against her feel that

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she did bad things here and abroad and

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it brings to

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discredit this kind of funeral this kind

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of state occasion if it's awarded in a

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way which many people in the country

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feel is unjustified and feel is being

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rammed down their throats for partisan

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reasons and ideological reasons and for

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which they're being asked to pay and I

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caution through you Mr Speaker the

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establishment of which I suspect your

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are not fully regarded as a member

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though you ought to be because your

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office is one of the great offices in

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the land but I I say through you to this

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establishment that that that that you've

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gone too far they have gone too far

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there's been too much of this it's too

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expensive it's too elaborate it's too

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Regal and many many people in the

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country are unhappy about it

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and I just feel that

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to compound all that I've tried to

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say to compound it with effectively

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cancelling a vital part of British

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political life would be to compound to

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add insult to the injury already

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suffered my last

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Point

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gentlemen and

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ladies although the the Mis the

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misbehavior is coming exclusively from I

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think they're called gentlemen uh

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opposite my my point is

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this Mr Speaker this funeral did not

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have to be organized so that it would

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Clash with prime minister's question

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time it could have been held today it

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could have been held on Thursday it

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could have been held later on Tuesday

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the state was vitally involved in the

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organization of this funeral we know

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that because we're paying for

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it the state was vitally involved in the

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organization of it and it was them who

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organized a clash with prime minister's

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question so why should the House of

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Commons be asked to accept the

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abrogation of its proper role tomorrow

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when the government is responsible for

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bringing about any Clash in so far as

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there is

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one but it's too late now to change the

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time of the funeral it's not too late

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for the house to refuse to abandon its

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responsibilities at Prime Minister's

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questions and I hope if the house

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divides it the end of the evening on

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this as I hope it will that a decent

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number of members of parliament will

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reflect the feelings of if not their own

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constituents then the tens of millions

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of constituents of many of us here and

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some of them there who feel that the

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Adoration of the Maggi has gone far

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enough