1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,359 currency Union would cause great damage 2 00:00:02,879 --> 00:00:08,280 to both the UK and the Scottish 3 00:00:05,359 --> 00:00:10,480 economies costing jobs and money which 4 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:13,240 could result in UK taxpayers promising 5 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:14,639 to bail out Scottish Banks and damage 6 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,600 the Sterling's value in the 7 00:00:14,639 --> 00:00:19,199 international markets at least that's 8 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:21,279 what Osborne is saying anyway so let's 9 00:00:19,199 --> 00:00:23,359 talk this through we've got George 10 00:00:21,279 --> 00:00:26,199 Galloway right here he's MP for the 11 00:00:23,359 --> 00:00:28,840 respect party in Britain so the question 12 00:00:26,199 --> 00:00:32,399 is to begin with do you think that Mr 13 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:34,920 George Osborne is using bullying tactics 14 00:00:32,399 --> 00:00:38,120 or has Mr 15 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:41,440 Salmon's pick and choose options run out 16 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,440 which side do you sit 17 00:00:42,160 --> 00:00:49,039 on well I think that the sound and sight 18 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:52,480 of George Osborne lecturing the Scottish 19 00:00:49,039 --> 00:00:55,399 people is a difficult one for many to 20 00:00:52,480 --> 00:00:58,920 swallow but at the same time his message 21 00:00:55,399 --> 00:01:01,440 is unequivocal and cannot be avoided it 22 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:04,640 is not possible to be an independent 23 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:07,520 state whilst using someone else's 24 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:10,119 currency uh because the people who issue 25 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:12,640 the currency as opposed to use the 26 00:01:10,119 --> 00:01:14,840 currency are the people who will set the 27 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:18,360 conditions the levels of public 28 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:21,520 expenditure the rate of Taxation and so 29 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:23,960 on all fiscal and monetary Powers must 30 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:28,040 obviously remain with the country that 31 00:01:23,960 --> 00:01:30,759 is issuing the currency and uh Mr sammon 32 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:32,880 I think has made a huge blunder in 33 00:01:30,759 --> 00:01:36,399 claiming that you can have Independence 34 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:39,520 whilst using the UK pound he ought to 35 00:01:36,399 --> 00:01:41,759 have had the courage of his convictions 36 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:45,000 and said either that Scotland would have 37 00:01:41,759 --> 00:01:48,640 its own currency or would join the Euro 38 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:50,399 Zone I know why he did neither of those 39 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:53,399 first of all because the Euro doesn't 40 00:01:50,399 --> 00:01:56,320 have a particularly good name here and 41 00:01:53,399 --> 00:02:00,560 hasn't been going terribly well and 42 00:01:56,320 --> 00:02:03,680 secondly because the example of say 43 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:05,960 Iceland or Slovakia perhaps even better 44 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:09,520 where the Slovakian currency lasted for 45 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:12,720 37 days before the World Bank and the 46 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:15,959 IMF moved in and effectively colonized 47 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:19,000 the country uh was not palatable as an 48 00:02:15,959 --> 00:02:21,080 alternative but uh you can't really have 49 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:25,800 an independent Scotland with an English 50 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:28,840 Queen a UK pound uh still in NATO and 51 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:30,440 subject to American Le uh military 52 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:33,319 political decisions 53 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:35,480 and of course also still be in the EU 54 00:02:33,319 --> 00:02:39,480 and subject to all the strictures that 55 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:41,800 come with that if there is a yes vote in 56 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:46,120 September what is the worst case 57 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:46,120 scenario for the Scottish 58 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:51,519 economy or the worst case is a race to 59 00:02:49,159 --> 00:02:54,000 the bottom that's the worst case for the 60 00:02:51,519 --> 00:02:57,959 working people at least a race to the 61 00:02:54,000 --> 00:03:01,519 bottom provoked by a low tax low public 62 00:02:57,959 --> 00:03:05,480 expenditure thatcherite ronom XS regime 63 00:03:01,519 --> 00:03:07,799 in London forcing a Scottish state to 64 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:10,400 chase them all the way to the bottom to 65 00:03:07,799 --> 00:03:13,400 cut their taxes even lower to make their 66 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:16,440 public expenditure even less to make 67 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:19,120 even more people unemployed and uh 68 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:20,959 Scotland would then be uh independent in 69 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:23,799 the sense that it could fly its own flag 70 00:03:20,959 --> 00:03:26,080 from Edinburgh Castle uh but the 71 00:03:23,799 --> 00:03:28,280 standard of living of people on both 72 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:30,680 sides of the border with virtually 73 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:34,280 Perpetual right-wing conservative rule 74 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:37,080 in England Shor as it would be of 59 75 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:39,200 anti-conservative MPS taken out of 76 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,640 Westminster that would be a disaster for 77 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,439 working people on both sides of the 78 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:45,120 border and it's the interest of working 79 00:03:42,439 --> 00:03:46,799 people that I represent okay George 80 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:49,080 Galloway we leave it there thank you for 81 00:03:46,799 --> 00:03:51,840 talking to us today very clear on where 82 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:54,120 you set uh where you sit on the agenda 83 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:56,120 there thank you very much indeed and 84 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:58,079 another political and economic 85 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,920 relationship that is on tender hooks 86 00:03:58,079 --> 00:04:02,640 right now this time it's between 87 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:04,280 Switzerland and the European union now 88 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,879 this is following the Swiss parliament's 89 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,879 decision to