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welcome to

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hello me here on the Malacca red channel

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and welcome to my home which is you

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conceded I sure I'm just with my wife

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but with my ear oh come on daddy Che

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Guevara

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that's what I'm talking about today it's

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George Galloway on chain

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welcome to good night with me George

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Delaware I hope you're enjoying these

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podcasts there on subjects large or

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small expected and unexpected and we

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need your feedback too in fact we'll

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devote to the next podcast more or less

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half the show to the feedback the

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dialogue that you have been providing

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these podcasts are now achieving

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something like a thousand heads a day

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each which is a lot of business and the

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political television business by

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anybody's standards and that indicates

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that whether or not people are agreeing

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with what I've got to say they're at

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least interested in hearing work got to

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say and I hope that that is because I

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have a reputation that I built up or

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when he made 40 years in politics did a

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little more than 40 years in politics of

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saying what I mean and meaning what I

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see and I think that there's a market

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for that in today's degraded poverty at

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least in this country now everybody has

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heroes I have many behind me we have

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Muhammad Ali one of my all-time heroes

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and we're going to do a podcast about

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the life of Muhammad Ali others Malcolm

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X the Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat

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South African leader of the African

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National Congress doesn't Mandela 93

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years young in whose army I was quite

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proud to serve for many years in the

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struggle against apartheid and many

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others but my greatest hero

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my number-one hero and arguably the

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greatest man of the twentieth century

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certainly a part of the greatest

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revolution of the 20th century is the

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man that I'm going to be talking about

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sealing commandant a Che Guevara or

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Ernesto Guevara Lynch I say that as I

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prepared to fly to the island of Ireland

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from which of course the Lynch family

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the maternal side of Jays family here

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than the Irish people are particularly

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proud about that as well they might be

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Ernesto who quickly became nickname this

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chain because of his virtual addiction

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to T was born in Argentina and he was a

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very sickly child indeed there were many

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moments when it looked like he might not

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survive he had very chronic asthma which

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afflicted him all of his life didn't

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stop him smoking cigars which is

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probably the only similarity that I have

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with him I don't have asthma but I

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shouldn't be smoking neither should he

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his doctor once said to him that he had

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to cut down to one cigar a day doctor's

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orders with which he faithfully complied

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except the one cigar a day was about 17

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inches long so she was afflicted by poor

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health all of his life

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which makes the course of our life even

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more extraordinary why do I love

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changing my life so not just because he

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happens to be one of the coolest looking

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men that walked suddenly since the

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invention of photography not just

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because of the spirit of adventure and

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independence of mind which seems to have

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been visited upon him since childhood

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and his teenage years

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I remember being one of the first people

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in the world actually to read the

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Motorcycle Diaries in manuscript form

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thinking this would make a great movie

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and indeed it did make a great movie

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Angie's life undoubtedly his cinematic

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or a skill that no work of fiction

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actually could be but the reason I love

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che guevara most is his spirit of

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internationalism which I could sum up

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for you if you like in in this sentence

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Che Guevara was an object I'm he was not

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a human but he risked his life many

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times in the battlefield in Cuba trying

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to bring about the success of the Cuban

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Revolution in which he was an important

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indispensable part there were many great

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leaders of the Cuban Revolution some

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some some unsung but the three most son

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were the thing was son for the best of

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reasons commandant II Fidel Castro was

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of course the commander in chief

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commandant a and heavy Che Guevara and

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communal Cienfuegos a hundred fires or a

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name were his two most important

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commandant is working under his

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vertical direction she never had at

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least military training in his life and

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yet he was a truly magnificent military

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leader scoring victory after victory

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over the military forces of the then

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Cuban dictatorship or Batista was the

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American puppet who ruled Cuba in the

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interests of the Mafia the casino owners

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the brothel owners and the American

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criminal class as depicted in many

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movies like Bugsy like The Godfather and

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others he gave his considerable military

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and political genius for the greater

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part of his life to the people of Cuba

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but he was not Cuba he fought alongside

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patrice lumumba the greatest of all

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African people of the Congo of the

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struggle against Belgium and Western

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colonialism and Lumumba of course paid

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with his life his young life for that

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crime against imperialism the leading of

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one's people for the overthrow of the

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colonial yoke Che Guevara was there

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alongside Lumumba in Africa risking his

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life on a daily basis giving his

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experience of the Cuban Revolution to

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Patrice Lumumba and his forces trying to

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defend themselves against imperialist

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overthrow interests his life in Africa

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though he was not an African and of

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course He gave His life famously in

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Bolivia though he was not a Bolivian

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again he wished to place at the service

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of the

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of Bolivia his heart and soul and this

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he did so let me go back to the

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beginning che guevara grew up in a Latin

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America which was still though nominally

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independent from Spanish colonialism in

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fact under the yoke of the Yankee

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neighbor to the north the country which

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had appropriated the name of the

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Americas for itself as if there were no

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other Americas secondly given a knew

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that the only solution for the peoples

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of what we call Latin America the

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southern part of the American continent

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was unity he knew that as long as the

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peoples of Latin America were divided up

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salaamed up but like the Arab world that

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we've been talking about in these

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podcasts as long as they were sliced up

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into many states each of them ruled by

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one form of dictator or another and

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after they depended on young keep our

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North American power that there could be

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no future for the great mass of

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suffering in isolated Latin American

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poor he knew that the poisonous racism

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and genocide of destruction of the

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native peoples of the Americas by the

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colonialists whom of course his own

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family were one could never be undone

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but if it were to be arrested and the

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culture and history and presence and

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importance of the native peoples of the

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Americas were to be recovered defend

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saved could only be done on the basis of

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a revolutionary program because he

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believed that the argued racism

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genocidal hatred of the Native Americans

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was in the bones of this imperialist

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system

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I thought they knew that these

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dictatorships could not be removed

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except by force of arms he knew that

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there was not much point in being a

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liberal a Liberal Democrat in the Latin

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America of the 1950s that anyone who

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challenged the oligarchy power of the

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small group of Latta foodists of big

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landowners and the nascent capital or

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places like Argentina that unless that

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was challenged by force of arms there

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would never be generated the

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revolutionary force capable of removing

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this oligarchy of removing this skirt of

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Latin America and on his motorcycle tour

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as a teenager he saw just how Latin

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America was he had been fortunate to

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grow up relatively speaking in a lower

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middle-class income household surrounded

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by books and loving parents and siblings

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and an extended family even though the

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family had to move around Argentina much

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looking for a climate in which Jake

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could actually live and survive as a

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child climbing high into the mountains

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going white cross the great option time

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to find a place more conducive to his

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chronic breathing problems

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but when he blow on that motorcycle and

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when all that to her

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he saw all around in the dark shadows

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para Rocklin ilysm had produced in Latin

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America and became determined to join

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its revolutionary overthrow Che Guevara

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was a doctor was a dentist not exactly

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the kind of profession that you would

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identify with arms he had absolutely no

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military experience when in Mexico he

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hooked up with his lifelong comrade

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Fidel Castro he was taken on by Fidel

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for the then upcoming invasion by a very

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small group of revolutionaries indeed to

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be the doctor to the expedition but he

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ended up the second most important

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military commander in what was a

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victorious revolution he grew very close

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to Fidel he talked to them quite a lot

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about left-wing theory about political

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science Fidel was then much more of a

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man of action big basketball player of a

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man a man who was ready to get at the

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enemy and Tarrant its throat chagum are

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provided ideological neurons to Fidel

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Castro's thinking and he provided of

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course and internationalism which Fidel

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at that stage lacked having very largely

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spent all this time in his life in Cuba

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somewhat in Cuban jails Bogota was able

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to tell him what things were like in

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other parts of Latin

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and what had happened to other previous

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anti-imperialist efforts the efforts of

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one parole in Argentina the efforts of

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Arbenz in Guatemala and elsewhere the

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overthrow of whom was personally

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witnessed on his motorcycle tour by

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d'Ivoire so it was a meeting made in

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heaven it was a meeting of minds and

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souls of profound significance to the

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history of the world and of course as

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his famous line or maybe we'll deal with

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the Cuban Revolution in a subsequent

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podcast the Revolution was almost

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snuffed out upon its arrival in Cuba and

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the martyrdom of most of the tiny group

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of guerrilla revolutionary fighters that

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Jay and Fidel had brought with them and

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those that survived had to make it

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somehow into the Sierra Maestra into the

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mountains to try to regroup and try to

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continue with their mission and that's

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where the greater of che began to be

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demonstrated

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there are many blue books and there's a

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wonderful movie part 1 and part 2 I

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could never bring myself to watch part 2

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because then you have an unhappy ending

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but I commend these movies to you about

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Jace so I'm not going to as a word read

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out a list of biographical detail I

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would our capture the International an

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internationalist spirit of Jane he was a

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good speaker but not a great one he was

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a good writer but not a great writer he

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was a thinker of some historic

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importance about the nature of

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capitalism and how imperialism in a

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reluctantly grew out of the capitalist

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system and could not be separated from

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it but it was as a fighter as a leader

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of men

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as a man who could rally others to risk

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and give their lives in the

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revolutionary cause that he was greatest

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despite his physical condition despite

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the very very considerable hardships of

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fighting in the mountains che guevara

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always led from the front he was one of

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these commanders who stayed back at the

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base count until the next objective had

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been reached and secured and his passage

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made easy he went on foot he went on the

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back of a donkey he went on the back of

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a horse through the steaming jungle in

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conditions which many men even those not

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afflicted by chronic asthma would have

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fun difficult and he found at times

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almost impossible sometimes his men

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against his world physically carried him

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through

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the mountain but they did so because

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they knew that he was not asking them to

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sacrifice he was asking them to be ready

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to sacrifice themselves alongside him

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not in front of him but alongside him

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and he was prominent in every battle

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with his weapon in his head leading from

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the front and in between encounters he

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practiced justice amongst his men he

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meted out punishment condign punishment

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sometimes lethal punishment for breaches

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of revolutionary ethics morality duty

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but he was always just and I have been

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lucky in my life having never been able

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to meet the commandante himself to come

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to know his children and many of his

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comrades very closely indeed and all of

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them speak of his sense of justice

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indeed perhaps something to do with his

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Roman Catholic background he had a great

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sense of guilt mmm he was constantly

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ruminating over this decision or thought

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that he had made constantly searching

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his soul his conscience as to whether

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this decision or that have been the

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right one and if he had behaved justly

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in such and such a circumstance he

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always of course accepted that Fidel was

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the leader of the revolution but Fidel

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trusted him so completely that he gave

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him virtual military carte blanche and

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thus in the final days of the

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revolutionary war against the

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dictatorship it was Jay with the speed

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of his military advance and especially

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his victory at Santa Clara which tipped

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the regime over the edge you may recall

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and the move

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the Godfather the New Year's Eve party

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which goes sour and it goes sour because

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of Jays rapid military advance on Havana

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which sends all the Mafia bosses and

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that is themselves covering for the

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airport to escape on New Year's Day on

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the day of the triumph of the Cuban

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Revolution a scene occurred which is

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almost impossible to believe really

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happened which Hollywood would probably

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have rejected as too far-fetched all the

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revolutionary columns Fidel Castro

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Camilo Cienfuegos Nestor Che Guevara all

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conserved in this huge captured military

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base outside Havana and this great crowd

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pictures exist on this level we can find

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one this great crowd of fighters is

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addressed from the back of a truck by

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these three great revolutionary heroes

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chairs on one side Camilo on the other

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Fidel as always in the middle and as

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Fidel is addressing this crowd which

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have swollen to almost a hundred

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thousand so they can imagine the noise

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of the tumult a white duck fluttered

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overhead and then came to learn directly

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on the shoulder of Fidel Castro as he

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was addressing the victorious

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Revolutionary Army they see a tour video

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it's not staged now this was seen by the

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fighters present and generation since

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something

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of enormous significance the victory 1j

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Guevara could have enjoyed life as a

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government minister indeed he was a

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minister for economics industry era for

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trade it was even the governor of the

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Bank of Cuba his face appearing on the

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banknote an Argentine dentist with

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chronic asthma appearing on the

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banknotes of Cuba and then they up as

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the governor of the Bank he could have

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grown fat and complacent could have

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enjoyed the fruits of the extraordinary

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risks that he had T but one day soon

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they asked to see Fidel and he told him

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that he was Restless that this life was

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not for him that he was a revolutionary

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fighter

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normal estar definitely not the domino

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effect and so he asked for Fidel

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permission which was given to leave Cuba

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and to take his revolutionary efforts

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elsewhere and this as I sketched he did

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first in the Congo and then finally and

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fatally in Bolivia the military effect

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of Che Guevara's

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intervention in Bolivia was in the end

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negligible but the symbolic effect of

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his self-sacrifice by going there being

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captured and then cruelly murdered in

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cold blood there by the Yankee

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imperialists has had enormous

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significance for the world and the world

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he stood for the Bolivians worm already

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no doubt as once said quite recently in

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my ear shot che guevara came to liberate

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us but we were not ready for him and we

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let him down and for that we craved

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forgiveness but the peasant woman who

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said that was being unnecessarily harsh

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sure the Bolivian expedition failed but

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it planted the seeds on the mainland of

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Latin America which directly led to the

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great revolutionary tribes of who-ville

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chalice and of the many now many

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progressive leadership that have emerged

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in Latin America including of course in

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Bolivia itself now change spoons are now

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back in the Cuba how did his bones come

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to be Jai was captured

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and he could have been taken on prisoner

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but his captors from the Bolivian

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dictatorship asked Washington what they

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should do now that they finally had

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their hands on comandante Che Guevara

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Washington was in no doubt

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and the people who were holding him

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having received this order nonetheless

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had extraordinary difficulty in carrying

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it out

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such was the presence such was the

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charisma of this man even wounded

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bleeding in front of them that it took a

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long time to pull the trigger

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finally chief said what are you waiting

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for I am only a man but if ever a man

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was not only a man it has to be Che

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Guevara and when finally they killed him

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firing bullet after bullet into his

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dorsal they laid him out and began

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taking his photograph but even the goons

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of the Bolivian dictatorship could

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quickly see that this Christ looking

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bigger later almost as if having been

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brought down from a crucifixion that

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these pictures could make JD Barra more

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dangerous in death even than he had been

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in life and Washington got hold of the

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pictures and suppressed them and for

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many decades we didn't see them but we

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can see them know in their extraordinary

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power indeed that pictures alive and

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dead of Che Guevara are now to be found

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on the t-shirts on the flags on the

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posters of hundreds of millions of

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people from every corner of the globe

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the picture the face the image and above

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all the example of Che Guevara has

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inspired now two generations nearly of

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people who want to see liberty and

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freedom quite a legacy

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for a mother every single person

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involved in the mother of Che Guevara

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ended up themselves dead violently one

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by one in different parts of the world

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revenge was had against those but the

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ultimate revenge will be when the masses

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of the world he said about us cried for

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two three four five Viet Nam's

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for challenges everywhere to imperialist

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rule and us hegemony when the masses

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pick up the rifle that I dropped said

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Che Guevara then we can say that we have

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succeeded in making our revolution Che

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Guevara is my you and this is the hero

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of many millions of people we will never

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forget him we are with him always

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hasta la primera LaRoche already

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hey America Tina welcome here in a

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funeral for another whole family forever

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hey Anna Carl Mullaly la primera consume

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Estee Kirika Wonder Woman nothing half a

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la cara de Medici

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[ __ ] it

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there's a story to my very soul

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horrible

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this one

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be a part of

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Oh

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serve evil

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awesome

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[Music]

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you