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welcome to Sputnik orbiting the world

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with me George Galloway and me gatri not

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many rich men put serious money into

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politics in Britain and why should they

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this is a country where the expenditure

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of me thousands can secure a k a

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Knighthood and a single million can buy

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you a p a per a seat in Parliament and

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for Life Aaron Banks is unique not only

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has he put many millions of pounds into

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British politics he put it into people

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parties and courses which the political

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class and its media Echo Chambers agreed

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were cranks eccentrics and above all had

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no chance of winning the rest is history

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of course farage ukip and brexit have

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changed the course of that history and

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none of it could have happened without

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Aaron Banks and not just his money

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either as others have been slow to grasp

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Banks is his own man with his own ideas

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and his own ambitions he's even up close

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and personal with Donald Trump in a few

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days times the president of the United

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States of America so who is Aaron Banks

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and what does he want we better find out

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Aaron welcome to the sputnick how up

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close and Hi how are you who would have

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thought it I don't like the word up

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close and person I to ask how personal

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you know we we've been close to him but

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certainly not up close to personal but

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uh what I mean what's it like you you've

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met him most of the people who hate him

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have never uh met him uh Pi Morgan who

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knows him well thinks he's a fine fellow

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was that your impression well we' met

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him on several occasions when Nigel went

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down to Mississippi and spoke for him

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and then obviously we went to Trump

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Towers and spent an hour with him

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strangely like a lot of people off

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camera and in private he was actually a

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very different personality much quieter

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reflective um and I was actually quite

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impressed with him I mean clearly um he

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pretty bombastic but in private not that

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wasn't our impression at all and what

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about the public impression that he

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gives of him being very close with his

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family very close business di them we've

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met a number of the family um because

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the interesting thing was going down to

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Mississippi and doing that event and

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then there there were all the debates as

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well so over time we got to know all of

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the Trump team and it was really

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interesting that if you've seen his

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children interviewed they're very

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educated very calm very impressive

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people so I think I think a lot of PE

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lot of successful businessmen he is

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quite um Mercurial um so I think he can

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you know explode yeah but and that can

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be dangerous of course when you're the

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most powerful man in the world yeah I

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mean and people have legitimate

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anxieties about that having said that

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he's come under now such Relentless

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pressure from this really rather

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powerful Coalition of people the

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intelligence so-called Community as we

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call them nowadays

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we used to call them spy agencies in in

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earlier times so much intelligence has

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going into exctly intelligence is the

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one thing they often seem to lack uh but

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it is a coalition of uh the military

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industrial complex about which general

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Eisenhower warned us the intelligence

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services and uh a war party inside the

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Republican Party John McCain and people

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like that and then the entire liberal

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class uh that's a very very powerful

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array of enemies yet he seems to stand

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up to them I mean only in the press

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conference this week he didn't give any

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quarter but I think he's using the Press

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I mean I think he's leared how to turn

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th those people and their techniques

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against them I think you saw in that

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press conference what he was basically

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saying was we don't I don't need you

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yeah so you know if you're going to be

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objectionable Ian we were talking

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beforehand that CNN you know otherwise

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known in America as the Clinton News

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Network um has run some pretty

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horrendous stuff and I think he's

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learned how to go above them but use

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them at the same time the fail in New

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York Times um New York Times has got 30

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million Twitter followers so even when

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you're in an argument with the New York

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directly to the to the people yes no

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doubt um now the latest uh Tri of

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allegations

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insinuations inuendo is uh of a a pretty

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unpleasure nature relating to personal

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conduct in a hotel in Moscow and so on

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that attack was launched and then began

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to fall apart within hours uh names were

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spelled wrongly dates were used that

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couldn't possibly apply uh it really was

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fake news but one of the things that

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most interested me was that it seems to

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have emanated from British sources uh uh

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it's alleged that a former British uh

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intelligence man he despite a dentice

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he's been named in some uh uh social

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media circles and a former British

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ambassador to mosco uh is the man who

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reportedly gave it to John McCain who

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then gave it to the uh FBI this is very

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embarrassing for the British government

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isn't it well I think there's a lot of

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angs because uh if you look at uh you

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know the British governments kind of

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what they said about or British

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government trees and Ma AIDS I think one

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of them called called Trump the chump um

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there were other un flattering comments

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I even Boris said that he wouldn't go to

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New York City in case bumped you know so

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they haven't got off to a a cracking

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start and I suppose to hear that British

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intelligence leak this story um with

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another Russian angle is probably going

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down like a sick bag in Washington or

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with the Trump people right now I would

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have thought so all the more reason why

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they might well have utilized the good

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officers of your mate njel farage I mean

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Trump famously said that uh that he'd

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make a good British Ambassador what do

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you think of that I think uh I think

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Trump is redefining how to communicate

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um I don't think the British probably

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tooko kindly to being told appoint you

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know Nigel as the the on Twitter it's

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even it's even more of a slap rather the

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face isn't it really but the bottom line

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is it depends what they want I mean

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Nigel's got probably the best

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relationship not just with Trump by the

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way but with many of the Senate who he's

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uh lot of the people on certain side of

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the Republican parties see Nigel as a as

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rockar Liberation hero almost and and so

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in America his profile is very very high

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um and frankly as well politically you

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know what better way to get rid of

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farage to make him British Ambassador

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and right I never thought of that they

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could have buttoned him up in a penguin

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for the next four years well but but

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also I think you know the political

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scene is Shifting here and uh you know

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we've continued our PLL in from the

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referendum the the operation we've got

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we found some very interesting things

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that the conservatives may think they're

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in a very strong position right now we

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seeing the liberal Democrats start to to

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rise up in some of the you know the Tory

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seats and I think the labor part is

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under severe threat from ukip if it ever

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got its act together so I think to

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package Nigel off to Washington uh would

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have been a very smart thing to do the

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problem is an ambassador is someone who

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is sent to lie abroad for their country

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May couldn't have counted on on farage

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to to tell her lies he might have told

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his own but he certainly wouldn't have

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been guaranteed to tell her I think by

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the way the America the new

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Administration would love to do a trade

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deal with the British as quickly out of

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the blocks as they could and I think

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despite the shakiness of the

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relationship I think Nigel's been

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pushing that very hard and I think you

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know that could actually start to

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undermine the you in terms of the

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leverage they think they've got with

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with with all of this we no hard

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feelings then on what from from Trump

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towards Britain um I think Trump is is

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is going to be the president that's got

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the warmest feelings to to the UK um

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that we've ever had I mean his mother's

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Scottish um and apparently is a massive

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fan of the queens that might not please

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you but um but I you know understand

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that she's uh

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she's think this week the song Andy

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Stewart's famous song Donald warer

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truers did flip through my mind this

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week it's a but it's a huge experiment

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George because what we're seeing with

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the people he's appointing uh he's

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appoint he's a businessman and he's

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appointed some very very clever

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billionaires um into his administration

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that will ring run circles around the

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usual political non- entities probably W

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fiddle their expenses because they're

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already vastly rich you like to think so

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but you hope yeah however you can never

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guarantee here's a paradox you've had

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all this success y uh you I mean it's

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hard to really I know this sounds like

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overstating it but since Churchill uh

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I'm not sure that anyone other than your

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small group have changed Britain uh

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changed Britain's future in such a way

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since Churchill in

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1941 uh and yet you haven't made the

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breakthrough you you put enough money

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into the brexit campaign to have

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purchased seven or eight seats in the

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House of Lords whole family your whole

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family your whole could have all been in

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the House of Lords yeah I po Ship by the

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way personally

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so but they won't even put farage in in

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there is he is he going to give up on on

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British politics I think there a pettin

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involved around that because you know I

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would have thought there's very few

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things that you Nigel agree on

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politically probably other than you know

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the fact that you elect politicians to

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do your bidding and then you should be

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able to sack them and and replace them

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so you know we agreed on that that we

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wouldn't want to see you know the sort

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of government you would want but we

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agree that that was fundamentally what

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should happen um but I do think that in

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rejecting and the way they've done

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they probably have sewn the seeds of

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yeah exactly you know a possible Revival

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of it and I I do think politically

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though you say well we haven't

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achieved maybe parliamentary success but

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it's very hard to break through in that

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with the first part of the post system

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but I see signs that you know brexit has

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twice and uh and of course you are one

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of the people that have actually done

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that yeah uh and I can show you my scars

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it's uh it's a very very uh difficult

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thing to do I'm I'm just wondering if if

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he's going to try again in your view

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think on the circumstances and what's

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tragedy of the labor party is that

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shadow of a doubt leave people but yet

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have been full Square behind leave and

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reaping the ual

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benefit when the history comes to be

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written I think that will be uh as clear

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as day and even Corbin's attempt to

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relaunched the labor party's position

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this week uh Visa V brexit and free

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movement of Labor socalled uh well it

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way forward in uh British politics but

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across the European Union but uh stay

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back welcome back to Sputnik Aaron Banks

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is one of the most successful people in

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the entire history of British politics

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and yet the chances are you've never

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seen him interviewed but we're remedying

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that here Aaron thanks for uh staying

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with us uh brexit was the first breach

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in the wall but there are many more uh

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on the way uh in Italy uh you've got the

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uh defeat of the um prime minister in

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the referendum you've got the five star

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movement uh looking like it may come to

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power in France either a very

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euroskeptic president Fong will be

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elected or an ultra uh skeptic indeed

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hostile Euro phobe uh Marine Leen uh

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will will be the next president in

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Germany Merkel is under pressure in the

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Netherlands the government's Under

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Pressure people are talking openly about

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the Euro uh being abandoned and so on do

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you think it's possible that that in 5

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years maybe 10 years time there won't be

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a European Union like the one that we've

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left I mean my uh business partner

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um the the bank were're involved in

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firmly believe that the Euro will cease

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to exist within the next 3 to 5 years

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that doesn't mean that something akin to

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a kind of a smaller kind of Benelux

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version of it will carry on but it's

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clear to all to see that if these

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countries don't exit the Euro they are

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just going down the road of Destruction

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I I find find it very interesting the

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whole what you just laid out there

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because if you look at European Union we

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kind of compare it to like the Titanic

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that's hit the iceberg and the the

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people at the top are still drinking

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their martinis well the basement's

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filling up with water and the things

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going to sink but they're still in a

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total viol the violin are

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player me kicking off but but the the

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interesting thing is that the European

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Union itself seems impervious to the

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signs I mean if you I mean I I compare

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you see look at Marie Le Pen I really

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don't like the politics of um you know

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the front National which is almost kind

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of almost a

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remainder of almost a fascist party

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Nigel's the sort of guy that you take to

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tea with your grandma um Marie Leen are

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you know these are people whose

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political views are are really sort of

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you know pretty extreme and G vilder you

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know probably might even Trump her so

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and in Italy as you know it's more

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coming from the left um so there's a

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whole cocktail of things going on here

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but for the EU to remain unbending in

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this

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um just merely says to me that it has to

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end but but the the factors that cause

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it to end of course are you know

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completely unknown well the the Titanic

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is a very good metaphor another would be

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the last days of Pompei yes uh this

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Empire that's even better one actually

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well I know you like European bureaucrat

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sort of Frozen in I know you're a man

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for the classics and the the Roman

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Empire learn learn with that and I've

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always followed that

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# yeah maybe we should do a double act

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on that um but the that the uh Italian

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example that you mentioned is of great

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interest to me because we've spoken

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before on radio and uh you did have this

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view of a five star movement uh in

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Britain I think that would do very well

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I I myself would be happy to participate

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in that if it was a broadly based

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Coalition like our campaign for brexit

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which had Communists and both Communist

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party that were the old yes the new

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Communists and the old Communists and me

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uh so you you know that kind of a

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movement should necessarily stand in

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elections though it could might uh but

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which uh exists as a pressure uh on the

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political class in Italy that has worked

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really quite effectively but it's

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interesting as well because uh you know

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the the whole ukip journey

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the the way the left tried to demonize

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you or the views they held which in a

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lot of cases were not unreasonable views

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I mean immigration was affecting

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workingclass voters more than anybody

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else but black and Asian British war

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they were the first victims in fact I

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would love to see an analysis of it but

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I would say that the The Immigrant

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Community probably you know the existing

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one may well have voted out as a

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collection of people I'm certain of

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despite my campaign was quite often

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concentrated on that that demonization

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even to the point where if you look at

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the the breakdown of the ukip um

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parliamentary candidates they fed more

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ethnic minority candidates than any

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other party but as in all things you do

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have an element of it that is um you

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know it's like the labor party that's

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holy unacceptable you know and so what

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happens when you got a

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party that is true that's true and

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that's why I'm appealed to it appeals to

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me because I think you could put this

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Coalition together but the thing I've

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learned it's easier for people to engage

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engage and the social media skills we've

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learned and the whole way you can

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actually do it and you see Trump trump

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farage is really interesting because

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it's not really about Trump he is the

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the mouthpiece if you like for a

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movement and I think a lot of the Bernie

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Sanders supporters went and supported

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Trump because they wanted change they

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wanted to break the establishment and

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they saw Trump as a an instrument from

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which to smash it I I think it's true

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here I mean we look at we you know we

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sack one Ambassador sir Ivan replac him

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with s Tim know you Shuffle the knights

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around the around the table and actually

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nothing ever changes and so you know we

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were debating earlier before weren't we

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saying that uh actually I would

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nationalize Industries I would have

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government focused on doing a very

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narrow limited number of things which is

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almost quite libertarian but what they

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do they do really well like the Health

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Service education you focus on what you

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can do well rather than trying to be you

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know trying to get involved in

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everybody's life well neither of us

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would have as elegant a suit if it had

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been made by a state run tayor nor would

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we have lunched so well if we lunched in

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a state restaurant but there are some

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things that are natural monopolies yeah

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that the state should run shouldn't it I

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completely agree with that because if

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you take the state if you take power

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companies and infrastructure these are

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merely U monopolies handed over to

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Private Industry to extract money and

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they're they're just as inefficient as

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their state uh you know and getting much

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more uh uh subsidy and getting huge

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amounts of subsidy and actually really

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it's it's been a blind alley from which

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we've gone down but that's the political

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problem of left and right um and I think

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what we've got to Aspire to be as

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radical you actually pick the ideas that

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work from both sides of the equation

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well left and right is definitely being

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redrawn as you speak I realize that uh

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although

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nobody would have guessed it before

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watching this interview we actually have

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a lot of common ground let me test you

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on one I I I believe that banks are the

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same as uh utility companies Bank

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banking is just a utility well for for I

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think we probably would agree with this

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that the financial crisis was caused by

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exuberance of banks getting outside what

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they should be doing which is lending to

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Consumers and lending to business for

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real Enterprise rather than

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gambling and and and doing stuff that is

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outside their remit so I would actually

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have a state run bank and the other

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Banks uh are being given a huge

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Advantage with the funding they're

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getting from the bank of England and and

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other things you know to actually not do

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banking but to to you know basically

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manipulate whatever they're doing so if

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it's a utility and I would regard core

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banking as a utility business yes it

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should be in state hands and it should

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be tightly controlled so that the crisis

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we had never happens again and if

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Goldman Sachs can go and get a load of

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investors that want to you know have a

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go sure fine let them do that but they

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should never be in a position where

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deposit our money that we deposit I mean

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who does who does it hurt when there's a

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banking crisis not people like me I mean

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I do well out of it because you know the

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the volatility shares crash you buy it

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back cheap it's it's normal people that

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see they you know they say under

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pressure and all the rest of it I mean

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the government's reduced interest rates

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to

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0% it's prudent modest people that have

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had their life savings basically

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obliterated it's not that they're using

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our money Aon uh we are guaranteeing

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their underwriting their business yeah

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because if they fail well underwriting

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their failure as it yes we we can't

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allow them to fail so so I would

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wholeheartedly agree with that that you

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a bank is either a normal institution

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that just does banking um and I I

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wouldn't be averse to you know seeing

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that in public ownership well you as a a

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father example Donald Trump this week

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denounced big Pharma and it's super

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profiteering on its uh effective

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Monopoly of producing the medicines that

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people need to corre live and yet people

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say he's on the right uh Hillary Clinton

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would never have challenged big Pharma

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they were probably filling her uh

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coffers with the Prof well I think uh Mr

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Trump's only problem is that bit like

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the number of people wanting to get rid

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of JFK were lined up around the corner

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they couldn't work out who it was um as

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you said I think at the beginning

546
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there's a whole industrial complex

547
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around um corruption and the like in the

548
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stat if you see him tell him this from

549
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uh from me he should avoid grassy

550
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nors never drive I think he knows

551
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that open

552
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because uh I have never seen a more

553
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virulent and I've been in politics well

554
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over 40 years now uh I have never seen a

555
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more virulent collection of people and

556
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the Liberals are the most virulent of

557
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all all these nice Liberals are almost

558
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literally forming at the mouth well I

559
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think they've they just can't believe

560
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what's happened but you make a good

561
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point with the farma because actually as

562
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a big business person they know where to

563
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go looking to to to attack the problem

564
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and some of the people he's hired in are

565
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clever businessmen so we will see it's

566
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an experiment I'll grant you that we're

567
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going to see you know where where this

568
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all takes us but as a first stab to say

569
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well you know actually we're going to

570
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take on the pharmaceutical companies

571
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that's pretty pretty bold stuff very

572
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much so it's going to be a roller

573
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coaster it's going to be great and uh

574
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it's going to be huge it's never going

575
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to be boring and you know what I think

576
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he's going to build the wall it's going

577
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to be big it's going to be beautiful and

578
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the Mexicans are going to pay for

579
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it you must come back and review

580
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that at a lat day Aaron Banks been a

581
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real pleasure pleasure well thanks very

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much for joining

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[Music]

584
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us and now it's your turn to tell us

585
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what you think through the portals of

586
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social media what's ratling gri so we

587
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discussed with Aon and the five star

588
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movement in Italy and the prospects of

589
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it here in Britain and master of reality

590
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replied is uh yes Britain needs it as

591
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well the status quo is not

592
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representative of the electorate who

593
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reject the liberal Elite PC politics

594
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yeah I'm quite excited about it actually

595
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I think I volunteered myself for it

596
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today and uh I I intend to play a role

597
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in that it would be very interesting and

598
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this hysteria uh about Russia inter

599
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intervening is it all based on fact or

600
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fiction Simon goodle Says fiction

601
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politics of fear is to justify armed

602
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sales and NATO policy of poking the

603
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Russian Bear to create a self-fulfilling

604
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prophecy and Salman Khan says they claim

605
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Corbin would take us back to 1980s

606
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politics but the current establishment

607
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is taking us to 1950s Cold War politics

608
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I couldn't put those ideas better myself

609
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that's absolutely correct we'll see if

610
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the British Cold War attitude survives a

611
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Donald Trump presidency and much else

612
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exactly well that's all the tweets we

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have time for today which alas means

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that's the end of the show stay in touch

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with us though on social media Twitter

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rtor Sputnik or Facebook Sputnik on

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Russia today it's goodbye from me gri

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and from me George Galloway it's been

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[Music]

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marvelous