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welcome to Sputnik orbiting the world

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with me George Galloway and me gatri

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it's a funny old world as Margaret

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thater once said 100 years almost

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exactly from the first February

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Revolution in Russia and more than a

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quarter of a century since the end of

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History foretold by the collapse of the

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Soviet Union the word Russia is

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everywhere if you believe the experts

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Russia is currently in command of almost

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every political development in the

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Western World from the election of

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President Trump through brexit to the

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forthcoming election for the presidency

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of France left-wing parties are talking

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right and right-wing parties are talking

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left president Trump has just scrapped

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the free trade TPP and put the effective

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abolition of NAFTA on the table and the

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American labor unions emerged this week

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from a rare visit to the White House

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saying they had been treated with

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unbelievable respect and that Trump was

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the president they'd been waiting for

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our first guest is a very important man

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indeed he is chief of staff at Britain's

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biggest Trade union unite right-and man

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of Len MOSI he's a member of the TU

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General Council and he's a veteran

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leader of Britain's anti-war movement

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the stop the war Coalition he's Andrew

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Murray Andrew let me start with this

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question of how boundaries appear to be

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shifting a man known to both of us a

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distinguished journalist

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and urw Trotsky Paul Mason uh was up in

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arms the other day about the danger to

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Nato posed by the election of President

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Trump indeed on question time a few days

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before that he'd called for President

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Obama and the CIA to physically stop

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Donald Trump from taking the oath of

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office on the grounds that he was a

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security risk because of his supposed

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relations with Russia so if an N2

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trotskyite is talking in these terms

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whilst Trump is scrapping free trade

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Arrangements insisting on us Steel in

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the building of infrastructure and so on

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the old terms of left and right are

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definitely shifting I mean I don't agree

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with Paul in those examples that you've

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indicated I think protecting the

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Integrity of NATO is very low down in

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the priority of most voters labor voters

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in this country and of most

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socialists and the idea of overturning

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the outcome of a democratic election is

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really no way forward but I think the

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deeper problem is that the left across

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much of the developed World shall we say

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is paying the price for its prolonged

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and disastrous Embrace of economic

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liberalism new labor in Britain a

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particularly lurid example the clintons

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in the USA hardly less so orand in

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France most recently and this has struck

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a a CLE through the Coalition that has

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supported leftwing politics socialist

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politics Social Democratic politics uh

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in one country after uh after another uh

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president Trump uh adeptly exploited

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that to win his his sufficient majority

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uh in the key states in the presidential

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election last uh November uh and it's a

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lesson that we desperately need to learn

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trade unions uh would not often have

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been in Downing Street uh of late least

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of all under a labor prime minister

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I doubt if they've been in the White

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House in the last 8 years Trump met them

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in the first 3 days of his presidency

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and they were enormously impressed by

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what he had to say if you take out the

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sexism the misogyny and the racism and I

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know that these are very big things

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Trump's program was effectively a

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left-wing program it was defending jobs

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workers industry uh and it was the idea

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uh that the interest of the American

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working class would be back at the top

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of the agenda proved very effective it

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proved very effective in the key

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industrial uh industrial States I mean I

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think I'm sure we'd agree you can't just

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take out the misogyny and the racism and

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and the potential authoritarianism and

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regard that as of no account but

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nevertheless his message of economic uh

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nationalism putting America First in

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industrial questions and scrapping the

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trade deals which were often sponsored

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by parties or leaders of the left but

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have been disastrous for uh industrial

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communities in Britain as in America is

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enormously popular we will have to see

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whether uh six months down the line or a

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couple of years down the line Trump who

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of course is has formed a cabinet of

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billionaires um uh and rather Strange

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Love type military characters whether

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they'll actually deliver uh on that but

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trade unions and USA I can't speak for

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them but I I do know that many workers

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are desperate for relief from economic

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liberalism uh and uh Trump uh is

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indicating in that uh in that uh

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Direction and I actually thought they

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were dead I never heard of these

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American Trade unions at all was amazed

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at the exist well well like uh like

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unions in many other parts of the world

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but more so I think they have declined

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in in numbers certainly and they have

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become more reliant on public sector uh

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trade unions where unionization is is

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easier but my own Union unite we have a

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strong relationship with what's now

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called the usw it was the Steel Workers

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Union based in Pittsburg where you can

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see the devastation of uh of the last 30

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years much of it um exacerbated by the

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policies of Bill Clinton and which

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Hillary Clinton would probably have

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carried forward but the Obama and

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Clinton were very sound on what you

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might call identity issues or liberal

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issues not quite as sound as the pretend

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I mean on deportations for example uh

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Barack Obama deported more people from

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the United States than all previous

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American presidents put together uh but

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they were let's say they spoke nicely

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and they were uh mindful of people's

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differences and so on but they

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championed an economic system which

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beggared and destroyed not just white

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workers but all workers in the United

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States well they did uh some of that was

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masked at the time by General economic

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growth which took some of the edge off

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for a time and then after 20 or 30 years

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the economy goes into the enormous slump

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we've seen from 2008 people turn around

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and see utter utter Devastation not just

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economic Devastation social Devastation

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uh uh families communities very high

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levels of drug addiction uh other social

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uh pathologies I think of course we need

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to recast the whole polarization of

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identity politics and class politics in

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so far as uh the working class is half

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female uh it's multi-ethnic it has many

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people who are gay or lesbian a very

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diverse class and that diversity needs

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to be recognized if its Unity is to be

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enhanced uh but that cannot be to come

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back to the central point on the basis

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of free market economics uh and one

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can't one can't say that you know

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advancing legislation very good

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important Progressive legislation on

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particular social questions uh Trump's

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as it were uh an economic policy Bill

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Clinton was right on one thing it is the

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economy stupid and that is where his

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stupid economics have failed in France

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we have a very similar thing uh

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occurring uh parties that are of the

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right are talking left and the parties

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of the left you mentioned Holland who's

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limped off the field with 4% in the uh

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public opinion polls they're talking

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right they're defending neoliberalism

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defending the eu's neoliberal economic

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basis defending NATO uh hostile to

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Russia and so on uh so this is not just

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an American thing it's everywhere isn't

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it it is everywhere I mean it's

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extraordinary the labor party in this

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country at the moment is not polling

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terribly well but the extraordinary fact

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is is polling better than the Social

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Democratic party in any other country in

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Europe with a possible exception of

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Norway um the uh France uh you've

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Mighty SP PDS 20% the Dutch labor party

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a regular getter of 40% of the vote uh

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30 40 years ago is now I think in some

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polls in eighth place in the fourth

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coming general election in the

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Netherlands this is something point my

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Dutch wife is forever pointing out the

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Socialist de the Socialist Party to the

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left of them that's actually growing I

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know there are there are in some of

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those countries left parties that sort

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of top up the aggregate left vote but

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but of course few of those have actually

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been tested by exercising office and

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where they have as in Greece the results

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have not been terribly good so it does

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tend to show that the Social Democratic

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movement does not have answers to the

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problems of a time or has not had in the

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last 30 years they've hitched themselves

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to a sort of modified neoliberalism with

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with flowers and fragrance uh but

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neoliberalism yet and since 2008 it is

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ever to everyone that doesn't work let's

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finish uh by talking about Russia um

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Russia's a normal capitalist country and

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yet Western Powers seem uh intent on

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treating it as if it were an ideological

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opponent an existential threat it's

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blamed for everything from so-called

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fake news to putting Trump in the white

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house as a kind of Manchurian Candidate

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a labor MP Ben Bradshaw said in

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Parliament recently that uh Russia was

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almost certainly involved in the brexit

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vote here they're accused of handpicking

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the next president of France what is it

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about Russia and is it a real danger to

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Russia uh isn't he at physical risk in

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doing so I think he' be at political

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risk probably I by which I mean

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impeachment or or I mean there's enough

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material to hand to get that off the

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ground if they wish to but I do think

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it's extraordinary if you look since his

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election uh the you know he his policies

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on a range of other things uh the elite

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have more or less swallowed or prepared

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to put up with even tearing up trade

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agreements even very provocative moves

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towards China in the or potential moves

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rhetoric at any event uh they've sort of

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idea of forming a better relationship

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with Russia has been extraordinary and

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backers who are clearly unhappy with it

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and they pushing back uh to people on

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the uh on the liberal uh left it is it

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is a form of Madness because as you say

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does not pose the ideological challenge

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the systemic challenge that the

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existence of the Soviet Union did you

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more so less so indeed than China and

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much less so than Saudi Arabia uh uh for

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example uh it's uh intervention in the

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Middle East is minuscule compared with

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the serial and disastrous interventions

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find a rational basis for it other than

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people the elite need an enemy maybe

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China is too big and risky a one to

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address also that Russia is uh filling a

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vacuum to some extent in the Middle East

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pushing back against some American

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interests there but these are only only

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half reasons I don't offer them as as

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the full story maybe it's just

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familiarity Russia was the enemy for so

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long in its Soviet uh uh days that uh

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people can't think of anything else but

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it is it is irrational and very very

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dangerous and um uh we've seen recently

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more pro-russian politicians been

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elected in several uh countries The

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Front Runners in the French presidential

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election are all more pro- Russian and

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it seems to be driving some people mad

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the idea of having a better relationship

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Ian that's that is all that Trump has

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said really uh you know listening to the

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possibility that Russia has a point of

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view that needs to be taken seriously

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rather than just uh be treated with

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disdain as it was in the 1990s uh

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treated as a little consequence uh that

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seems to be causing hysteria and it has

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to be challenged because this sort of

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psychosis uh is the anti-ro to war

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Andrew Murray thanks for joining us

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again on the Sputnik coming up next a

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strange tale from across the mercy don't

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miss it

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welcome back to Sputnik alzer's recent

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documentary series shed a spotlight on

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the alleged role of the Israeli Embassy

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in the corridors of power in Britain a

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senior Israeli official was apparently

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captured unwisely boasting of how they

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were trying to bring down Britain's

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Deputy foreign minister and a veritable

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hit list of British MPS was suggested to

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him by his interlocutors it was claimed

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by one of those interlocutors that

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almost all Britain's conservative MPS

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are members of the friends of Israel and

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that their counterpart in the labor

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party is large powerful and proactive

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Jeremy Corbin the labor leader wrote to

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the Prime Minister demanding an inquiry

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but none has yet been forthcoming one of

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the front lines of the inner party

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conflict in labor is Mery side though

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there are many Fishers present there

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local labor organizations are either

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suspended or in special measures normal

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reselection procedures will likely be

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suspended thus protecting several labor

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MPS thought to be under threat of

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replacement one of those is Liverpool's

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Riverside constituency and our next

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guest is a veteran and well-known

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activist there she's Audrey White and

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she joins us now glender Jackson

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famously played you in a movie in the

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1980s uh that was a tumultuous period in

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labor history his too is this not just a

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rerun Shan of all these allegations of

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homophobia and anti-Semitism and

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trotskyism and leftwing infiltration and

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so on this is really just a power

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struggle isn't it well it is a power

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struggle you're right it's about the

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right versus the left and it's about the

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use of um slayes and allegations and

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smoking mirrors instead of addressing

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the the arguments and it's fabulous to

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live in Liverpool now with the re agent

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greater than it ever was never mind the

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' 80s look ahead what's going on now is

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massive the young people people from all

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different walks of life who are flooding

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into the labor party and yet were not

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allowed to function well the uh

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approximate reason uh seems to have been

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an anonymous dossier that was produced

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we know not from where and we can't

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allege from where uh but there's no

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doubt the dossier was produced and was

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used as part of the argument to get you

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and other constituencies in Mery side

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suspended or placed in special measures

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what do you know about this dosier well

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can I just go back a bit because it

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started from a tweet from a counselor

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counselor um small in Liverpool saying

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he's never heard this was as far back as

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April saying he's never heard of anti-i

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M uh comments that he's heard at a

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recent uh constituency meeting and from

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then on um we were slandered around our

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city our city was slandered really

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because this is a city center uh

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constituency so we're all uh denigrated

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and slayed against by being accused of

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tolerating anti-Semitism so that went on

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and it built up and it built up in the

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press that it was acceptable to say that

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Riverside um constituency labor party

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had people making anti-semitic comments

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and nobody doing anything about it so

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that's where the it started and then it

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went on with no action being taken at

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all me writing to the uh Northwest labor

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party right into the executive well this

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is all around the place what's happening

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and nothing happened ignored every

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correspondence then all of a sudden da

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before the labor Party Conference that

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document that you're talking about was

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produced very very conveniently to

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sabotage the uh Jeremy Corbin's

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conference and it was touted around all

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of the television stations the

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newspapers and so on anonymously

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Anonymous document how can you do that

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George it's terrible the stuff in that

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document is full of lies and liable I

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knew Eddie Lyden he was a friend of mine

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in Parliament for for many years and

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I've known you for many years and I know

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that Eddie lyen is not your father Yes

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and yet that's in the document that

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Eddie lyen is your father which is a

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tremendous slur on your mother and a

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great insult to your father of course

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well I think what it does show is the

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lack of uh interest in the truth because

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to put that in this document ER it's

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complete disregard for accuracy so it

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what I'd like to say is that that

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reflects everything else the garbage

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that's in it absolutely but how did they

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manage to put that in then where did

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that that come from I was meant to have

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said it on the radio um and I asked for

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evidence of this so what's quite

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shocking is the lens they were doing

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going to to protect an anonymous

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document the contained liel it was sent

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to me not a link but an audio recording

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and I've had that audio recording

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forensically

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examined because I didn't believe that

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I'd said Eddie Len was my father and

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I've got a report from a a top uh expert

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witness who analyzes these things and he

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said there's three

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indications around the place where I'm

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supposed to have said Eddie L was my

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father has been changed doctored

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doctored yeah so what I actually said

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was Eddie Lyon was my father's agent

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right he was he was a lovely man Eddie

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lyen I'm not sure you are Li

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by being called Eddie Lyon's daughter

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because he was a very fine man but your

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mother's definitely libeled uh in uh in

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in that and I know a thing or two about

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liel let's go on to the bigger issues

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next door in

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wallacy uh they're completely suspended

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indefinitely yes uh on the supposed

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allegation that

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someone an official presumably of the

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constituency tolerated uh homophobic

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abuse of their MP Jeremy Corbin's

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one-time Challenger Angela Eagle even

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though the person who cheered the

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meeting was herself the mother of uh a

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daughter in a same-sex marriage you

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couldn't make that up and that a brick

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had been thrown through Angela Eagle

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MP's window it turned out it wasn't her

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window and it wasn't a brick uh so how

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is it possible that an entire

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constituency labor party could remain

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now

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uh many many months completely suspended

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on such bogus uh uh pretext it mirrors

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what's happening in Liverpool in the

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Liverpool R Riverside you've got nobody

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charged with anti-Semitism but the whole

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world in his uh thinks there's

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anti-Semitism there the same thing with

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the um homophobic complaints nobody's

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actually been uh charged with being

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homophobic so it's smoking mirrors

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George it's just unbelievable the

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machine scery of the labor party is

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being is being used to help these people

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hold on to power they are terrified of

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the our movement it wasn't Jeremy Corbin

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it was the movement that they're rarely

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afraid of they've tried to get rid of

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cut the head off the movement by trying

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to attack Jeremy Corbin then when they

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failed that they've come back to the

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membership we want to be out there now

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we want to campaign for the Women's

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Hospital that's the labor party are very

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very quiet over they should be out there

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campaigning with us we're campaigning

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for the Dockers for basic services that

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the Dockers should have that we they

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should be with us over these things

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they've had

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it so easy for so long they're terrified

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that this movement will be as putting

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demands on them to protect Ordinary

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People if this is all about Jeremy

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Corbin as the head of this movement that

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you talk of of what does Jeremy Corbin

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have to say about this thousands in fact

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scores of thousands of his supporters

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were either expelled or suspended or

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otherwise denied a

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vote his supporting constituencies like

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Wy like Riverside are either suspended

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or in special measures if he's the

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leader of the labor party uh why isn't

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he doing something about it and if he

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can't do something about it

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in what sense is he the leader of the

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labor party I think he's been he's doing

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a brilliant job of as being leader of

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the labor party I think that you have to

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look at the fact that the probably one

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of the first time in history and

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probably throughout the world where you

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actually have a leadership that is way

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ahead of uh the organization of a

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political party we are the biggest

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political party in the whole of Europe

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and it's all because at the top we have

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this one man who was really really

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reflec in the move mood of the country

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and the mood of ordinary people but who

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owns the Machinery of the labor party

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not Jeremy Corbin he's not a dictator he

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can't say this happens and that happens

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we are a Democratic party and to do that

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we've got a long long way to go to

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change the Machinery to make sure that

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we have MPS that represent us to make

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sure that the chair of the constituency

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doesn't manipulate everything so that we

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can't have discussions which is what's

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happened in our constitu has he come by

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has he been recently oh he's he come a

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few times to Liverpool and the um the uh

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demonstrations we've had were absolutely

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he's very popular uh in Liverpool but uh

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if his constituency labor parties are in

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suspended animation there's a clear

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problem there Audrey White thanks for

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joining us on the

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Sputnik and now it's your turn to tell

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us what you think through the portals of

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social media what's rattling gri so

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Russia seems to commend everything from

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moscon now from Trump to brexit and now

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allegedly also splitting NATO to which

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euroman activists says I like everything

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what Mr Putin does we don't need

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expensive and obsolete NATO it's very

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weird that these right-wing politicians

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think that the masses across Europe are

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fixated on keep NATO and its Unity at

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vast expense and for no purpose is

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remarkable misconception what's also

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remarkable is Donald Trump's meeting

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with the American Trade unions which is

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just truly unbelievable uh so we posted

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a picture of him with the meeting them

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around the table and Amy Wyatt says why

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are they all clapping this Nazi well

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he's not a Nazi I mean anybody that

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thinks Donald Trump is a Nazi has never

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actually seen a Nazi uh he's uh

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completely

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Mercurial uh

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impulsive petulent childish many other

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things but he's not a Nazi and the

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really important thing about that

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picture is that within 3 days of taking

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power he brought the American Trade

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unions into the White House I'm willing

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to bet they never set foot in the White

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House in the whole eight years of Barack

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Obama that's right and that's all the

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time we have for the tweets today which

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alas means that's the end of the show

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but you can stay in touch with us on

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Twitter and Instagram rtor Sputnik or

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Facebook Sputnik on Russia today it's

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goodbye from me gatri and from me George

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Galloway it's been

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[Music]

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marvelous