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with me George Galloway and me gatri the

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state of the Arab world could be summed

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up in the confrontation between the

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Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and Qatar two

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countries little more than petrol

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stations waving flags are about to go to

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war at least that's the approximate

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Saudi king or maybe his son the new

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Crown Prince giving Qatar 10 days to

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respond to 13 demands virtually all of

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which are simply unconscionable unless

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catar wishes to run down its flag and

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end its existence as an independent

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sovereign state when I met our special

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guest for this special program today on

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the state of the Arab world we thought

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things could hardly get worse and that

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what we'll be discussing this show with

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the man I call the last Arab Abdul Baran

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the Arab world's preeminent journalist

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preeminent broadcaster a lion in in a

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thanks for joining us on the Sputnik

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when we first met all the Arabs were

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with your country Palestine most of the

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people in the west were against it now

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most of the people in the west think the

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Palestinians have got a point but almost

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all the Arabs are too busy murdering

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each other on an industrial scale to

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care for a moment about it let's start

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with Palestine very hard to see now how

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you or for that matter me are ever going

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to see an independent Sovereign

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State oh it is very very hard questions

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don't think it we will see this

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independent state in our life time why

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because most of the Arabs wealthy Arabs

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they consider Israel as a friend not as

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an enemy and they are normalization the

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relation with Israel simply because they

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believe now I'm talking about Gulf

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the United Arab Emirates and bahin and

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others they consider Iran is the arc

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enemy of the Arab world so they believe

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could be the hand which could help them

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to conquer Iran or to destroy Iran

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that's that's the irony in our part of

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the words how it happens I believe

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simply because when they destroyed Iraq

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when they destroyed Syria when they

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bankrupt Egypt so the only countries

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which you know leading the Arab words

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now is the Gulf States and with their

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soft money power they managed to Pride

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everybody United States Europe

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everywhere and actually they put

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actually the Palestinian cause of the

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burner Palestine now is actually

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completely forgotten and now we are busy

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with the situation in Syria the

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situation in Iraq and Syria where dases

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is or Islamic state is now the the war

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between the Gulf States three Gulf

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so it's it is a tragedy it is a tragic

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situation tell us what lies behind this

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because uh it's very difficult to see

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what material difference there is

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between Saudi Arabia and Qatar both are

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Libya in the destruction of Syria both

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collaborated in the destruction of Iraq

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all the things that you uh said the only

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difference between them being Egypt for

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one year and under President Mory uh

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what really lies behind what would

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appear to be the gates opening to

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another war and this time in the Gulf

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between two Arab countries two rich Arab

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countries yeah two rich Arab countries

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kingdoms yeah kingdoms you know uh in

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monarchies the Gulf States where the

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money concentrated they thought they are

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superior they thought they are different

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Arabs and they thought they are in the

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driving seats of the Arab wordss they

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have Frozen the the Syrian membership of

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the Arab League they export terrorists

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failed states there as they did in

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Afghanistan and other parts of the world

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Muslim words in particular so the the

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the conflict now is coming to them okay

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know it's it's it's a Miss now

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so now they are eating each other what

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Arabia and they want to minate not only

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Arab worlds thinking that they got the

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money and they can buy

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everybody uh it is there there are many

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conflict you can say it is a tribal

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this or tribal roots of this the compete

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competition between the AL sa and Alani

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despite being all of them uh adopting

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the Wabi uh uh you know

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theology the other reason is Saudi

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umbrella qat is AEL qat would like to be

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independent would like to be Sovereign

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would like to have different foreign

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policy and they want to challenge Saudi

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Arabia you know say okay we want to have

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a relation with Iran we want to have a

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relation with Hamas we want to have a

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different relation with with with other

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part of the world we are not going to

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fight as we should fight in Yemen like

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the others so no now the leadership that

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Saudi Arabia Prince Muhammad bin Salman

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he would like to dominate qat he would

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like qat to actually rise the White Flag

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saying they want Kat to be like bahin

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you know absolutely submissive

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absolutely insignificant so I believe uh

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the C are not you know are not a soft

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not to be actually uh crashed they would

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they say no you know we are not going to

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submit to to your uh demands the 13th

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demands from them George they did not

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present this demands to be accepted they

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made it to be rejected to go to the

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third phase the first phase in in any

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wars in the Middle East first phase is

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propaganda and media War the second

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sanction blate the third state the third

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state or stage is confrontation regime

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change military confrontation and regime

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stage so or regime change that's what

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Syria in a way or another so they are

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repeating the same thing against Qatar

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they believe Qatar in the end will throw

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the towel and submit if they don't

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submit you know they will invade it it

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happened in 1992 when the Saudi changed

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the Border by force with between Saudi

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Arabia and Qatar it happened in 19 uh 19

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coup inside Qatar and they send troops

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and it was failed

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and now it could be repeated again so

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humiliation is the name of the game uh

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enforcement is the name of the game how

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can you give somebody 10 days to apply

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to carry out 13 demands including

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closing closing Al jazer cut off

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relation with Muslim brotherhoods

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deporting people break relations with PR

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with Iran and how can you and kick out

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the Turkish forces forces and Turkish

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close the Turkish base military base

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there how can you do it in 10 days

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Saudi Arabia ah you know there are two

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scenarios the first scenario is uh uh

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you know to prepare internal coup and to

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split the royal family you know you know

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or two major factions and they are

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who will be on the throne this is one

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in in in qat and al- Mora failed to do

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tribe in itself and also the American

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Middle East so they said no you know we

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agreements or treaties between us to

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protect Qatar when there is a problem

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know intervention military intervention

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to change the regime and to install

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somebody from the royal family in Qatar

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Invasion under the name of helping the

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internal coup and then change the regime

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so because what they can do after that

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okay katar is not Gaza Strip Kata is

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$100,000 per per uh head so they are

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wealthy they you know they can survive

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the sanction so the sanction can be

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there for years to come and I don't

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think they will starve and because and

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in on the Middle East so they can bring

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whatever they want and their population

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this is the problem so the shooting may

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you're watching Sputnik With Me George

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Galloway and gatri we're discussing with

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the last Arab abdulbari atwan the great

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Arab journalist and broadcaster and one

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of the very few men in the world who

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interviewed Osama Bin Laden we'll come

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to that later just before we leave

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Qatar uh if the shooting

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starts one must presume that Saudi

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Arabia will prevail unless the Americans

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stop them although Saudi ground forces

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unproven uh asset they have been

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murdering thousands in Yemen but only

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from the sky they Daren send their

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soldiers across the border will this be

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uh the new Crown Prince's first war and

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successful the Crown Prince he's a man

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of he's a man full of arrogance and he

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can Prevail in any

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crisis when he decided to send his War

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plays to bomb the poorest Arabs in Yemen

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he was so confident that the war will

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end maximum in a month if if not if not

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less than that so he was proven wrong

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because he doesn't understand how

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difficult Yemen Yemen is you know as a

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fighter and as a population as a nation

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so I I believe that okay Qatar is a

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small country he he's thinking that you

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know they are Rebel they are uh full of

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uh Pride so he can crush them and you

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know there is a a

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border the only border crossing for qat

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outside the world is is the one with

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Saudi

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Arabia I mean the land one okay so uh he

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believes that he can send his troops and

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he can send his uh war planes and Kat

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Army is very small and force them to

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throw the towel and raise the White Flag

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but we know how to start the war but we

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don't know how to end it or how the end

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will be he doesn't understand that you

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know he is not a general he is not

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qualified from sad test or West Point or

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some these you know uh traditional U uh

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military academics and like even even

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you know some of his like some of other

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Gulf uh you people especially the Amir

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of for example he he's a graduate yes

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he's graduate from s his father is

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anyway so he is thinking that he can

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accomplish this job you know in in a

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very short time and he also supported by

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Muhammad bin Zed who is the Crown Prince

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of Abu Dhabi and both of them are very

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wealthy and they have F15 F-16 war

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planes the most sophisticated American

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war planes but the problem is you know

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we we know the Middle East we know where

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they start

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but we never knew where the end so if we

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what will happen is Iran is going to be

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silent is turkey will stay away for

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example exactly because aragan has moved

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from side bit in the past decade or so

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so they're here now in Qatar but will

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they stay will they fight will the

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Turkish fight to defend Qatar we to be

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honest uh erdogan is unpredictable

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man uh he actually you cannot predict

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what his next

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ACT uh in Syria for example he was a

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very close friend family friend of

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Bashar alassad of Syria and also you

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know Bashar Assad of Syria was a family

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friend of the Amir of

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Qatar previous Amir of Qatar and

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suddenly erdogan in in the switch of

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seconds he change from a friend of

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Bashar al-assad to his foe same thing

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Gaddafi he was the closest friend of uh

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erdogan you know Gaddafi the the demise

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of Gaddafi simply because he gave the

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contracts not to Britain not to France

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he gave the construction contracts the

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digital contracts the electronic

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contracts the military to India to uh

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Turkey to China to Russia and this is

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this is this is the reason why he was

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deposed so erdogan was a very very close

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friend of uh of uh Kel Kad what happened

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then he sided with NATO against him and

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he actually sided with his enemies the

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Muslim brotherhoods and some those um

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you know radical Islamic organizations

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let's turn to them let's let's turn to

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them you're one of the very few

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journalists ever to interview AMA Bin

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Laden in his cave in the Torah Bora this

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Isis dises looks to be on its last leg

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legs

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militarily but I believe and I'd be

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interested in your take that will not be

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the end of it the forces which created

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this Isis Al-Qaeda phenomenon will

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merely morph into something else is Isis

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on its last legs is Al-Qaeda on its last

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legs and what will happen if it falls

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down George I have a different the

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theory when I said in the beginning that

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Isis

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the

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nucleus of Isis the

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exgen of Sadam Hussein those people who

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converted to Islam because they were

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frustrated their army was dissolved

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their country the government was

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dissolved the regime was dissolved by B

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Brer the the famous American Governor

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military governor of Iraq so anyway they

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met with Abu Bakr Al baghdadi and others

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in bukah prison and they s the seeds of

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the Islamic State or

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is uh I believe they were used without

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knowing that simply because the American

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would like to put pressure on al-maliki

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norri al-maliki of Iraq and to remove

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him and it seems they managed to capture

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musul Rea and other parts of Syria and

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Iraq fua and you you know the country

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very well so now uh when they are facing

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about you a coalition of 60 or

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65 Powers including superpowers and

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Regional Powers uh they are not going to

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win this war definitely they will lose

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it they are about to lose musul and they

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are about to lose re what will happen

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now because they drained all their

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resources Financial Resources especially

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they used to export oil equal to $3

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million a day of um um crude oils so now

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they are

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bankrupt so what happened and they are

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running out of arms they use because

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they captur a lot of Arms from the Iraqi

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Army now actually they could move from

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consolidating their power on land

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expanding

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geographically to the second phase which

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alqaeda face which they use to ridicule

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which is

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Terrorism so now they have branches in

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in at at least 19 countries in Sinai in

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a sah of in Libya and in Africa and

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Nigeria and Afghanistan in Yemen in

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every in Pakistan so now they could be

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more dangerous they could turn to

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expanding on terrorism because they

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failed they are shrinking territory wise

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and expanding terrorism wise so this is

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the most dangerous thing why they will

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go underground now they will get rid of

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actually uh providing

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services and running big cities or big

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state you know which is the equal of

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maybe the double size of of Britain now

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they will be immune from this and they

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will be relieved from this services or

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running the aair day-to-day life of of

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of a a country bigger than Britain so

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they will go underground will be

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cheaper and less costly and more

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dangerous before they were engaged with

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the people with the governments like

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Iraqi government the Syrian government

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even with with the Coalition American

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coal now they will be engaged with with

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you know with terrorism only yeah they

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will concentrate in terrorizing the

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whole world and including in the west I

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mean this terrorism is already here with

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us we see people in London in Manchester

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in uh in in on the mainland of Europe

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exploding themselves to kill large

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numbers of innocent people so this

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terrorism is going to get worse not

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better it will get worse why George now

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because the Islamic State or Isis busy

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on defending themselves they are not

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those people are mainly volunteers they

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are not prepared to do terrorism

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they are not actually trained to do

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terrorism you know to Van to drive a van

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and uh stamped people this is not

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doesn't need training also you know to

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carry a gun or to you know explosive

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belt and go explode yourself in in uh

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musical arena in Manchester is not a

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training yeah if they go

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underground they could be a vicious

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enemy a vicious terrorist because those

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those people will trade they will focus

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in terrorism that's why they could be

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more dangerous now what we are seeing

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now what we are seeing now is Amish act

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it not actually a proper act but when

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they start to concentrate on terrorism

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like Al-Qaeda for example in the

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beginning look what they did they went

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to uh the World Trade Center in New York

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they went to American embassies in

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Nairobi and Dar Salam they went to the

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American Destroyer sea Destroyer uh coal

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it's it's cool you know they because

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they were concentrating on terrorism

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those people if they go under ground if

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they are defeated they will be you know

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eager for Revenge they will prepare

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themselves for terrorism properly uh

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because as I said in the past they were

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okay busy they have people to run people

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to finance people to feed now they are

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relieved from that they they they have

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people to give electricity to give water

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to give health Health Care to they have

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a media to run they have you know many

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things they they have recruitment plans

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so but now if they are relieved they

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will concentrate only on terrorism and

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that's why they could be lethal well we

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better start concentrating a bit more

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seriously on it ourselves because we're

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all in danger dark days indeed ABD atwan

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thanks for shining some light on

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them

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and now it's your turn to tell us what

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you think through the portals of social

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media what's rattling gri Lots with the

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whole Middle East upside down yes how'

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you keep up with that dear euroman and

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activist says the USA and Israel they

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just want to make the Middle East a big

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desert Without Borders just small tribes

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uh well they would certainly benefit

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from the Middle East being a desert

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Without Borders just tribes and Emirates

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but that doesn't mean that they're

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behind it

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I have to tell you after 40 years with

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the Arabs I have come to the conclusion

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that they don't need the USA and Israel

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are both of them to cause Wars and mass

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murder uh uh amongst each other uh this

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is homegrown of course other people can

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benefit but it's homegrown and it's a

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part of the sickness which has entered

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the bloodstream of the Arab world and

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the Muslim World more widely I wish I

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had more time to talk about it

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unbelievable that's all we've got time

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for then this week which alas means

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that's the end of the show but please

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stay in touch with us on social media

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goodbye from me gri and from me George

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Galloway it's been

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marvelous

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oh