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and George Galloway I heard on the

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street that somebody really important

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wasn't done he's been at the top of his

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game for basically all of my life he's a

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Lari this is I think the eighth

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interview that you've done today and

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it's not even dark yet are you ever

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going to retire you're 83 no George I

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don't think I could I tried when I left

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CNN it was about three months I thought

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I could retire I was watching television

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and they maybe announcement that Osama

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bin Laden had been killed and I

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literally was jumping out of my chair to

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run to a studio to do a show and I had

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no show to do and Carlos Slim had been

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talking to me about starting something

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and I realized I had to go back so we

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started the Larry King now and then

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politicking and I went back and now

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we're in our sixth season I I missed it

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I loved interviewing people

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I loved the cameras out of microphones

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I love communicating I think it keeps me

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on that and having teenage boys I was

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going to ask you about I've got five

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children too there's no doubt to me that

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children keep you young but they also

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keep you to work and I must say you're a

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role model for me in many ways one of

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them is I'm going to work until I love

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that I would work if there were no

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children no dependents and I like I

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don't understand people who don't work

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let's go back to the beginning

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you're a legend you and the Hall of Fame

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from radio work and for television work

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one of the few men who has made that

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switch so effortlessly and for such a

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long time I myself also working radio

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and TV which do you prefer and what do

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you think of the is the future for each

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of them how to predict the future in

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this business is impossible who would

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have told you about the iPhone 20 years

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I mean it's insane so I don't know

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love both I love radio for its info

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mallilie for its closeness something

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about maybe oh I love the physical I

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don't text I like the sound of voices

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and radio is you have to listening

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television yun apples with televisions

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kinetic television changed the world you

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can't beat where you see something so I

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realized the immediacy of television but

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I like it too I like everything about

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commute I like the whole ball of wax I

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like is I never liked any I never wanted

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to be anything but a broadcaster when I

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was five years old George I'd listened

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to the radio five and I would go into

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the bathroom and imitate what the

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announcers had just said a tale well

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calculated to keep you in suspense radio

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death who knows what evil lurks of the

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hearts of men the shadow those and I

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would go when I was a teenager I go

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visit radio shows that had studio

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audiences and I'd watch them stand by

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the microphone drop the paper so it

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doesn't make a noise as they would read

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their scripts watch the sound effects

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man creating the sound of fire I was

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passive a whole world of illusion and

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radio was the theater of the mind

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because with radio you could create

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everything now radios future is in

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trouble if the advance of driverless

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cars occurs because we are in a world of

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driverless cars

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that means you'll watch television in

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your car it was all happening to really

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never occurred to me most racially days

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as opposed to Boober and it's driverless

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car you just created there an atmosphere

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of radio from your New York background I

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had the privilege and everybody watching

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this needs to read your remarkable

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joining my remarkable journey I bought

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to get on a plane on the east coast of

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the US and read it

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country and it was and I was traveling

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alone it was laugh out loud on every

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page well I would have been a comedian

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think I'd have done stand-up oh you

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would have been brilliant I do a lot of

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speeches I'm speaking here in London for

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a business group I like making people

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laugh I like walking onto a bare stage

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so I love comedians interviewed

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thousands comedians to walk run or bare

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stage nothing but a microphone and

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audience make them life no script

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make them laugh be funny think about

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that to go out what the comic faces he

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walks out or she walks out onto that

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stage the light hits them be funny can't

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fake laughter so you could be in a drama

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you don't know how you do one you do a

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Shakespeare you don't know how you're

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doing you've assumed they're attentive

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but if it's a comedy you know we're

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doing but that's pected you are though

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to me quintessentially a New Yorker in

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that book my remarkable journey you tell

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stories so funny that they you cannot

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not laugh a load of your background in

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Brooklyn and so on you've come a very

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long way but you must still remember

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that certainly I never feel a choice of

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George I love Brooklyn when I was twenty

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two and a half years old to go to Miami

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break into broadcasting and I'm 83 now

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I've been away from Brooklyn 61 years

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but I'm still from

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I live Brooklyn but Brooklyn never left

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me so I lived in Washington Miami Los

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Angeles I was go from Brooke now

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Brooklyn is state of mind

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it's a borough it's one of five boroughs

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but whenever I think of Brooklyn I think

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of Brooklyn and we were kids and we go

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into Manhattan we would not say we're

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born in Manhattan II would say we're

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going into the city Manhattan was the

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city we were Brooklyn I wrote a book

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years ago called

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when you're from Brooklyn everything

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else is Tokyo and that was just about

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growing up I had I was very poor my

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father died when I was only nine and a

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half and my young brother and I were

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raised by a single parent a mother never

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remarried would Jewish immigrants and I

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never had father were very poor we're on

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relief for two years New York City

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bought my first pair of glasses they

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paid our rent so my mother could go to

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work till I was old enough to watch my

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brother so I've always understood when

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they hear the term welfare and what we

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called it release then the wrong relief

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it was hard to take inspectors would

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come to the house to see what kind of

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meat my mother was buying but some

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people grow up that way and get

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conservative because they know what not

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having something and I grew up on that

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liberal so the older I got the more

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liberal I wish you an even longer a life

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in that case now you did by the way did

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your mother live to see you a success in

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Miami she died at age 76 in 1976 I

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started by national radio show in 1978

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and CNN in 1985 but she saw me a roaring

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success in Miami

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radio-television newspaper caller with

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the Miami Herald she never saw a book

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publisher written 1415 books you never

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saw that but she saw me with Jackie

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Gleason with Frank Sinatra she went to

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see the Don Rickles when he was

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beginning and she knew actors and

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actresses that I met and my daughter

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kaya went to Jackie Gleason's house to

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spend a day and my mother met him Jackie

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was a big mentor he was great to be I

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met her when he moved the show down to

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Miami from New York in 1963-64 I went

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down on the train with him I hosted him

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on many shows the night before he died

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his publicist Hank Meyer called he made

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a list of people to say goodbye to now

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one of the many anecdotes from your book

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which has stayed with me was how you

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literally bumped into Jack Kennedy you

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literally lived in a car that bumped

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into him tell us about that is 1958 I

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had been on radio for a year and we had

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some what wasn't my car but I was

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driving there's a beat-up old

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convertible and we wanted a drive to see

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what Palm Beach look like there's a

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Sunday morning were four of us I was

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driving to in front - and back an old

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car and we're driving up us one right by

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the ocean oceans on the right in Palm

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Beach they didn't build hotels on the

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ocean like they did in Miami Beach so

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these houses are on our left the oceans

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on our right and travel that's a

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beautiful Sunday morning quiet nobody on

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the road and we'll look at the houses

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and we're going to the ocean I'm looking

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and we're coming to Worth Avenue which

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is the popular evident and it was a

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cross stopped at a red light and a

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convertible and I slowed down but I was

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looking away and I hit it I must have

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been going ten miles so now I just bump

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to us his head bounced and he got out of

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the car

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and he came over to us and he said how

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the hell'd you hit me

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it's beautiful day it's a Sunday morning

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were the only two cause on a road in our

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Fall Fest how the hell do you hit me I

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said well we never been in Palm Beach I

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was looking around he won't exchange

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licenses he said nice of it like I'm

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Senator John Kennedy oh yeah

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I'm gonna run for president in two years

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I try to be vice president two years ago

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yeah I remember that tell you what you

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do raise your right hand

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swear you'll vote for me y'all swole

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Wolfie okay and I bumped into John

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Kennedy's car now later two weeks before

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he was killed

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1963 maybe a week before he spoke in

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Miami and this was now five years later

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from 1958 and I was in the third row and

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he was speaking at a convention and he

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was looking around and he saw me and he

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went I got ya a guy who hit me with the

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car I never forgot that buddy we got to

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take a quick break be right back

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Larry King in a legend before the break

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we were talking about Jack Kennedy I was

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brought up in a house where there was a

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picture of the Pope with preeminence and

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under him Jack Kennedy it's why your

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anecdote has stayed with me I loved the

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Kennedy family what did you think of

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them they were extraordinary they've had

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everything they were royalty without

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being royalty they were immigrants

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typically American story they were rich

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but they understood the poor the

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brothers had a father who was

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anti-semitic who didn't want to get into

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World War two and they had a one son we

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wanted to be President Joe Kennedy jr.

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died in a plane crash in World War two

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which nearly destroyed the family and

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another daughter who was born with brain

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damage and they had three other boys and

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one of the boys became president the

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board became a senator and Attorney

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General the other boy became and might

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well have become president my world

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become and one of them became one of the

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gate senators ever and I think Ted

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Kennedy would be one of the five great

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senators that ever served in the Senate

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Ted was one of the most genuinely

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remarkable people I knew otezla story

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love is a frame in my house of a letter

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when they announced he had brain cancer

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I wrote him a letter I said did Ted best

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wishes

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you know I'll pray for you I'm with you

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through this and get back a beautiful

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letter dear Larry thank you for thinking

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of me I know that you had a heart attack

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and you went through heart surgery so

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these things have befallen you and that

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you would take time to write to me means

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so much to me

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I'm so glad I'm in your prayers and you

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were always in mine

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all the best hey did politicians get

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smaller Larry or am I just getting old

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there are no politicians of that stature

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I don't know what that is when I was

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where I was I was in radio I could tell

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you every member of the Senate I could

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tell you every foreign major foreign

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leader I couldn't tell you I remember

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the Senate today and I'm a political

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junkie I don't know what it is why a

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division has occurred that those those

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men years ago and some women but those

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men years ago could be angry all day and

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go out and have a beer no change it part

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of it the change it was the jet age they

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fly home on weekends and it wasn't so

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easy to fly home them so they'd spend

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the weekend in Washington they were

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buddies Barry Goldwater told me probably

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he voted for you but Humphrey because he

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was his friend he was his friend he

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didn't know Dixon knew Humphrey they

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were buddies you know but so they were

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friends there's no friends in the Senate

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these guys there's like enemies

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they don't just disagree there's like a

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hatred and I don't know where that came

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from

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and yet the parties are two cheeks of

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the same backside really yeah they say

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that I don't believe that

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no the Democratic Party is a much more a

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party of liberal bent to the Republican

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Party of the conservative bent you have

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to be sort of moderate in America

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succeed you have to come to the bill the

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art of compromise it's not a democracy

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as a republic the America generally

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comes together I mean like this goes

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stories like Tip O'Neill the Speaker of

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the House and he told me once he

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attacked Reagan on the House floor that

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day unmercifully this rip them apart the

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Social Security idea Nick

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goes back to his office and the

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secretary from sentences president's on

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the phone and he said I said to myself

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oh my god

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he picked the phone said hello and

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Reagan said did you hear the one about

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the Irishman when that was different

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you pick J Trump falling well he stays

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he tweets something semi-literate and

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extremely bellicose you interviewed

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everybody you've literally interviewed

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any everybody who was anybody up for the

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outcast or who you with okay a very

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great man I'm very sorry you didn't get

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to interview who stands out for you on

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the on the political field Oh Bill

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Clinton seemed to me well here's my

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favorite because he was so good but so

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smart it's a political machine right

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great well all balusters why did all

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presence of some you don't get to be

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President you have that kind of ego to

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say I want to be present and you're all

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presidents have something George Bush

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the first George HW Bush is a nicer guy

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she will ever meet as courteous a guy

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not a mean bone in his body

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Gerald Ford could a chew gum and was a

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true best friend ever great football

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player one fair pick good guy great

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family Jimmy Carter commanded a

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submarine an atomic submarine did more

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as an ex-president

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than any other ex-president ever great

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world citizen beat cancer Richard Nixon

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involved

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brilliant crazy everybody's against him

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but a genius mind I would hire him to

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analyze any situation not solve it that

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analyze it he could work for my

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television station as a political

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analyst who what why when we are mixing

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Bill Clinton as a man wealth spent just

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a guy's guy

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nobody could dislike Bill Clinton you

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could be his fiercest political opponent

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uh picture five minutes in the room and

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your lover he listens he stares at kid

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and he's bright as a whip

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he cares George Bush just a good guy not

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the best the president's not the

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brightest he had a has a good heart big

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baseball thing which is to be a by well

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I met for him two hours in the Oval of

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was just talking baseball

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that was the rule just talk baseball and

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did more for aides internationally than

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all of our presidents aides is being

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cured everywhere because of George Bush

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people forget that Barack Obama and

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tremendous admiration for Barack Obama

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as a human being as a man well within

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himself self-contained

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right Donald Trump as a friend he was

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terrific we know which we were fathers

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of the year together went to Super Bowl

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together when Marla maples was on the

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Broadway stage we went to see it in

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theater I had a medical procedure in New

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York he took my wife to dinner

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he's now this Donald Trump I don't know

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because I I knew him and politically he

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was very different

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so this Donald Trump is not he was a

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favor of single-payer health system

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favor right to abortion I don't I so I

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don't know this Donald Trump he always

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had an ego but it was a fascinating ego

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you know is you never disliked him

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personally cuz he was it was kind of fun

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so this is a president but I will say I

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know but I don't know is he's a

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president I know the best of all the

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presidents and I don't know people

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watching this are afraid of the world

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that Donald Trump is leading us into

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most people feel that the more Trump is

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attacked on the Russia front the more he

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headed into confrontation with Russia

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now let's say that's a genuine fear of

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someone who is narcissistic and believes

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their everything revolves around him

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what you have to hope for is good people

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around them secretary defense secretary

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state his daughter and hopefully others

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like that who can bring him to a sense

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of understanding that the world doesn't

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revolve around him so the fear is

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genuine but I think there are enough

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stop gaps

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just to prevent it happening I think I

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don't think I don't think that would

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happen sending men to die

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because he would be the Donald Trump of

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10 years ago will be saying what are you

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bothering was serious I don't know that

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he's saying that when he was running

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know what Iraq he was against Iraq yeah

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this is quasars a queue at the door of

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people to interview you to be

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interviewed by you the last time we were

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together the public were queuing up to

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get their picture with you I see as a

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religious believer myself that God has

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been very good to you and yet ideally I

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read the urine atheist well I say Adam

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every Athey every agnostic every atheist

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says he's an agnostic the verse is a

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safe thing to say because no one really

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knows

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so obviously it's easy to say I don't

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know but my logic

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I grew up Jewish I was Bar Mitzvahs

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I read the Old Testament to a Bar

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Mitzvah recently already Old Testament

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at God I didn't like that God at all

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sway my enemies destroy them kill them

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and like him I I can't buy the thought

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that there's something after this so one

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of the things about Judaism that I like

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is Judaism says okay you don't have to

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believe lead a good life lead a good

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life if there's something else fine if

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there's nothing what it really you let a

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good life so that's where I got my wife

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she's a believer people I know there are

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believers or they tell me they believe

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in a spirit or a force I've never

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experienced the force I've never seen

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the spirit I've never had anyone from

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the dead talk to me and there is

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impossible for me to believe what I do

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believe is that some geniuses years ago

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invented God as a brilliant way to keep

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the masses at bay and the one way to

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keep them at bay was to promise them

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something tomorrow so it had to be

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somebody rich someone who had the rubles

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and he had the temples and he said hey

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you'll be good buying the sky juanita

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and God will take care of you too meek

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shall inherit the earth

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just not yet well as Woody Allen once

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said Burgundy I don't fear that I just

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don't want to be there when it happens

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Larry King I often say this prayer don't

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always mean it it's a real honor as well

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as a pleasure to have talked to George

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my pleasure to be with you thank you

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very much for foot heel as George that I

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love it Larry King Live and kicking

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