1 00:00:02,540 --> 00:00:06,599 [Music] 2 00:00:35,480 --> 00:00:41,250 welcome to Sputnik orbiting the world 3 00:00:38,250 --> 00:00:43,980 with me George Galloway and me day three 4 00:00:41,250 --> 00:00:46,710 it's a moot point whether president 5 00:00:43,980 --> 00:00:50,610 macron or president Trump will tumble 6 00:00:46,710 --> 00:00:53,670 into the 20% of public approval first 7 00:00:50,610 --> 00:00:56,610 the French Tony Blair hit the barn door 8 00:00:53,670 --> 00:00:59,250 of defeating marine lepen easily enough 9 00:00:56,610 --> 00:01:01,950 after both the French Conservative Party 10 00:00:59,250 --> 00:01:04,860 and the French Labour Party failed to 11 00:01:01,950 --> 00:01:07,440 make the final runoff but it's been 100 12 00:01:04,860 --> 00:01:09,630 days since he was the main man who came 13 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:12,540 from nowhere and who created a party out 14 00:01:09,630 --> 00:01:14,700 of nothing I am here the future not just 15 00:01:12,540 --> 00:01:16,979 for France but for all of us the 16 00:01:14,700 --> 00:01:20,009 collapse into centrism or as some might 17 00:01:16,979 --> 00:01:22,950 put it into the void help us with that 18 00:01:20,009 --> 00:01:25,640 then dr. Russell Foster of King's 19 00:01:22,950 --> 00:01:30,350 College London our man for all things 20 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:34,260 European welcome back dr. Russell macron 21 00:01:30,350 --> 00:01:39,180 36 percent in the polls and falling is 22 00:01:34,260 --> 00:01:42,060 he a dead duck or is this something that 23 00:01:39,180 --> 00:01:44,040 must be expected this early well to 24 00:01:42,060 --> 00:01:45,479 understand microns slide in the polls I 25 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,880 think it's first of all important to 26 00:01:45,479 --> 00:01:49,979 understand the context in which Makran 27 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:52,020 emerged as you pointed out the collapse 28 00:01:49,979 --> 00:01:54,509 of the two mainstream parties which was 29 00:01:52,020 --> 00:01:56,280 similar to what we saw in the Italian 30 00:01:54,509 --> 00:01:58,530 referendum in December and the Dutch 31 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:00,689 election earlier this year macron 32 00:01:58,530 --> 00:02:03,540 emerged as a centrist candidate who was 33 00:02:00,689 --> 00:02:05,640 able to create an image of appealing 34 00:02:03,540 --> 00:02:06,900 across the political spectrum very 35 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,450 similar to marine lepen 36 00:02:06,900 --> 00:02:12,570 now because Makran came from such a 37 00:02:09,450 --> 00:02:14,430 young party with no experience it seemed 38 00:02:12,570 --> 00:02:15,930 inevitable that sooner or later his 39 00:02:14,430 --> 00:02:18,540 honeymoon period with the French 40 00:02:15,930 --> 00:02:20,640 electorate would end and as we've seen 41 00:02:18,540 --> 00:02:23,280 in the last six weeks his approval 42 00:02:20,640 --> 00:02:25,680 ratings have taken quite a plummet of 43 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:29,549 dropping 10 to 12 points in the space of 44 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:32,340 just over a month now a significant 45 00:02:29,549 --> 00:02:34,440 cause of this is that macron in my 46 00:02:32,340 --> 00:02:36,599 opinion did not win because he was the 47 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:38,180 choice of the French people he wouldn't 48 00:02:36,599 --> 00:02:41,150 because he was the lesser of two evils 49 00:02:38,180 --> 00:02:42,470 running against the front Nacional 50 00:02:41,150 --> 00:02:45,379 you'll recall that during the campaign 51 00:02:42,470 --> 00:02:47,930 the supporters of jean-luc mélenchon and 52 00:02:45,379 --> 00:02:49,940 Benoit Hammond were chanting a little 53 00:02:47,930 --> 00:02:51,739 sleep a slogan that was little seen in 54 00:02:49,940 --> 00:02:55,129 the British press there was navantia 55 00:02:51,739 --> 00:02:57,829 near ceased we want neither a banker nor 56 00:02:55,129 --> 00:03:01,040 a racist and so for many of the French 57 00:02:57,829 --> 00:03:03,829 electorate macron was a preferable 58 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:06,739 choice to the front nasiha now now that 59 00:03:03,829 --> 00:03:08,690 he's quite brutally defeated to the 60 00:03:06,739 --> 00:03:10,040 front Nationale in the presidential 61 00:03:08,690 --> 00:03:12,799 elections and the National Assembly 62 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,819 elections his honeymoon period does seem 63 00:03:12,799 --> 00:03:16,010 to be coming to an end 64 00:03:13,819 --> 00:03:17,750 however he has accomplished quite a lot 65 00:03:16,010 --> 00:03:19,940 in that time which can give us some 66 00:03:17,750 --> 00:03:22,549 indication of the sort of presidency 67 00:03:19,940 --> 00:03:23,299 that Makran is going to operate for the 68 00:03:22,549 --> 00:03:27,079 next few years 69 00:03:23,299 --> 00:03:30,140 tell me first though I expected him to 70 00:03:27,079 --> 00:03:33,440 win the presidency in the brutal way 71 00:03:30,140 --> 00:03:35,900 that he did I didn't expect him to win 72 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:38,540 the parliamentary elections as 73 00:03:35,900 --> 00:03:41,269 convincing after all he was actually 74 00:03:38,540 --> 00:03:43,879 leading a party that prior to that had 75 00:03:41,269 --> 00:03:46,459 not even existed this is a something 76 00:03:43,879 --> 00:03:48,709 that none of us expected so the only 77 00:03:46,459 --> 00:03:50,540 precedent we had for a presidential 78 00:03:48,709 --> 00:03:53,120 runoff between the front nacional and 79 00:03:50,540 --> 00:03:54,470 another party was the 2002 election in 80 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:57,139 which Jacques Chirac wiped the floor 81 00:03:54,470 --> 00:03:59,720 with Sean marine lepen so it seems that 82 00:03:57,139 --> 00:04:01,549 the very toxicity are from Nacional 83 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:04,280 meant that macron was going to win by 84 00:04:01,549 --> 00:04:05,690 default but like you I thought that by 85 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,579 the time of the National Assembly 86 00:04:05,690 --> 00:04:09,440 elections we would see the front 87 00:04:07,579 --> 00:04:12,010 Nacional making quite significant 88 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:16,010 inroads along with the supporters of 89 00:04:12,010 --> 00:04:18,410 himand socialists and melon Sean what is 90 00:04:16,010 --> 00:04:20,539 surprising is that on Marsh which as you 91 00:04:18,410 --> 00:04:22,520 pointed out came out of nowhere has won 92 00:04:20,539 --> 00:04:24,320 quite a staggering victory in the 93 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:26,320 National Assembly now I think a lot of 94 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:28,490 this is to do with Francis 95 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:30,320 dissatisfaction at a string of 96 00:04:28,490 --> 00:04:32,630 governments and presidents who are who 97 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:34,580 have appeared less and less capable of 98 00:04:32,630 --> 00:04:38,120 uniting the various factions of France 99 00:04:34,580 --> 00:04:41,870 we saw that Sarkozy was charming and 100 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:44,630 charismatic but mired in sleaze we saw 101 00:04:41,870 --> 00:04:46,400 that Francois Hollande was well-meaning 102 00:04:44,630 --> 00:04:49,849 but quite weak and ended up with the 103 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:52,909 lowest approval ratings in the fifth 104 00:04:49,849 --> 00:04:54,630 republics history so a large part of his 105 00:04:52,909 --> 00:04:56,430 of macrons nationalism 106 00:04:54,630 --> 00:04:59,400 victory is due to the French people 107 00:04:56,430 --> 00:05:01,920 wanting a stable president and a stable 108 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:04,550 national assembly which can pass the 109 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:07,770 legislation which France so badly needs 110 00:05:04,550 --> 00:05:09,390 also a lot of this has to do with the 111 00:05:07,770 --> 00:05:11,940 manner in which macron is running his 112 00:05:09,390 --> 00:05:14,790 own party more and more he is appearing 113 00:05:11,940 --> 00:05:18,210 as quite a monarchical leader of all 114 00:05:14,790 --> 00:05:19,830 Marche the 478 candidates that he put 115 00:05:18,210 --> 00:05:22,050 forward for all Marche in the 116 00:05:19,830 --> 00:05:25,350 parliamentary elections were hand-picked 117 00:05:22,050 --> 00:05:27,510 by him rather than in internal elections 118 00:05:25,350 --> 00:05:30,210 like the other parties so he's been able 119 00:05:27,510 --> 00:05:32,100 to maneuver the right people into the 120 00:05:30,210 --> 00:05:35,190 right seats and let's not forget that 121 00:05:32,100 --> 00:05:37,470 macron as much as he's new to politics 122 00:05:35,190 --> 00:05:39,570 he is demonstrated in the campaign and 123 00:05:37,470 --> 00:05:41,850 in the last hundred days that he is very 124 00:05:39,570 --> 00:05:44,160 very clever at playing the French 125 00:05:41,850 --> 00:05:47,100 political system and picking candidates 126 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:50,520 not standing for much sounds a bit Tony 127 00:05:47,100 --> 00:05:52,560 Blair this is why I think his approval 128 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:56,160 is starting to slip a little bit 129 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:58,050 he appeared as Frances Saviour as 130 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,490 Europe's Savior at a moment when it 131 00:05:58,050 --> 00:06:02,280 seemed that French politics were a 132 00:05:59,490 --> 00:06:05,550 choice between the failed establishment 133 00:06:02,280 --> 00:06:07,230 and what used to be a hard right party 134 00:06:05,550 --> 00:06:10,260 vote has now just become a generic 135 00:06:07,230 --> 00:06:12,420 anti-foreigner party so he was able to 136 00:06:10,260 --> 00:06:15,060 appeal to people who wanted something 137 00:06:12,420 --> 00:06:17,190 stable something mainstream but as he 138 00:06:15,060 --> 00:06:19,800 point out the fact that he's appealing 139 00:06:17,190 --> 00:06:21,480 quite broadly means that he's not 140 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:24,150 actually satisfying much of the 141 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:26,460 electoral wider centimeter deep 142 00:06:24,150 --> 00:06:27,630 precisely so some of his strategies that 143 00:06:26,460 --> 00:06:29,730 we saw in the early days of his 144 00:06:27,630 --> 00:06:31,440 presidency such as reaching out to the 145 00:06:29,730 --> 00:06:34,260 other parties in order to appoint top 146 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:37,260 cabinet positions these were politically 147 00:06:34,260 --> 00:06:38,970 very very intelligent moves in order to 148 00:06:37,260 --> 00:06:40,920 try and unite the disparate factions of 149 00:06:38,970 --> 00:06:43,110 France however what he cannot get past 150 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:45,240 is the fact that in the first round of 151 00:06:43,110 --> 00:06:47,010 the French elections three-quarters of 152 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:49,410 the French electorate voted against him 153 00:06:47,010 --> 00:06:52,290 because they didn't want him and now 154 00:06:49,410 --> 00:06:55,470 with marine lepen thrown under the bus 155 00:06:52,290 --> 00:06:58,080 by her own party and no real opposition 156 00:06:55,470 --> 00:07:00,240 leaders to macron he is now becoming a 157 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:02,660 figurehead a symbolic figure for the 158 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:06,660 French people to invest their continuing 159 00:07:02,660 --> 00:07:08,039 dissatisfaction in well the the big 160 00:07:06,660 --> 00:07:10,050 surprise for me 161 00:07:08,039 --> 00:07:13,949 if you think about that presidential 162 00:07:10,050 --> 00:07:16,169 vote melon Shawn got 20% so if he'd got 163 00:07:13,949 --> 00:07:18,479 just a few percent more would have been 164 00:07:16,169 --> 00:07:21,990 him up against marine lepen would have 165 00:07:18,479 --> 00:07:23,729 been Tony Benn + versus marine lepen 166 00:07:21,990 --> 00:07:28,199 that would have been an election worth 167 00:07:23,729 --> 00:07:31,349 going across to work in he did very 168 00:07:28,199 --> 00:07:33,659 poorly in the parliamentary elections it 169 00:07:31,349 --> 00:07:36,089 seems as if he was a figure but the 170 00:07:33,659 --> 00:07:37,949 people didn't Francie is party much 171 00:07:36,089 --> 00:07:39,330 there could be a connection here between 172 00:07:37,949 --> 00:07:41,580 what we've seen in the United Kingdom 173 00:07:39,330 --> 00:07:43,949 over brexit and what we saw in the 174 00:07:41,580 --> 00:07:46,469 Netherlands over there election that in 175 00:07:43,949 --> 00:07:49,800 the early stages this was politically 176 00:07:46,469 --> 00:07:51,960 highly polarized with people demonizing 177 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:54,779 the other side but now that a decision 178 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:56,729 has been made we may be seeing in France 179 00:07:54,779 --> 00:07:59,189 the same who's who saw in Britain with 180 00:07:56,729 --> 00:08:01,529 the adamant remain as accepting the 181 00:07:59,189 --> 00:08:04,770 decision in the Netherlands with the 182 00:08:01,529 --> 00:08:06,689 adamant builders supporters now giving 183 00:08:04,770 --> 00:08:09,149 their tacit support to a government 184 00:08:06,689 --> 00:08:11,909 which is still akattak and formed one 185 00:08:09,149 --> 00:08:14,039 yet so it could simply be this case that 186 00:08:11,909 --> 00:08:15,479 they that they ham owned a melon Shan 187 00:08:14,039 --> 00:08:17,639 supporters acknowledged that they've 188 00:08:15,479 --> 00:08:21,419 lost and it makes more sense to get 189 00:08:17,639 --> 00:08:23,069 behind a moderate centrist like macron 190 00:08:21,419 --> 00:08:25,529 rather than to continue making 191 00:08:23,069 --> 00:08:27,300 difficulties because making difficulties 192 00:08:25,529 --> 00:08:29,219 in the national assembly is going to 193 00:08:27,300 --> 00:08:31,889 benefit one group alone and that's the 194 00:08:29,219 --> 00:08:34,169 front Nacional because they are very 195 00:08:31,889 --> 00:08:36,180 much a minority now like a builder's 196 00:08:34,169 --> 00:08:38,669 party yeah like the hard core of you 197 00:08:36,180 --> 00:08:40,949 Cape which still exists they are now in 198 00:08:38,669 --> 00:08:43,490 the very advantageous position that they 199 00:08:40,949 --> 00:08:46,649 can sit back and snipe at every one of 200 00:08:43,490 --> 00:08:48,990 macrons intended reforms and policies 201 00:08:46,649 --> 00:08:51,260 without themselves having to take any 202 00:08:48,990 --> 00:08:51,260 blame 203 00:08:51,899 --> 00:08:55,920 so macrons 204 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:57,870 success in the parliamentary elections 205 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:59,730 could turn out to be a hindrance for him 206 00:08:57,870 --> 00:09:01,769 further down the line and that there 207 00:08:59,730 --> 00:09:04,290 will be a vocal minority in the National 208 00:09:01,769 --> 00:09:05,730 Assembly the buck stops with him exactly 209 00:09:04,290 --> 00:09:07,980 and they can just sit back and say 210 00:09:05,730 --> 00:09:11,040 essentially we told you so what's 211 00:09:07,980 --> 00:09:14,010 happened to the front national it's 212 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,490 imploded essentially because marine 213 00:09:14,010 --> 00:09:17,100 lepen 214 00:09:14,490 --> 00:09:18,870 made this such a personal party it was 215 00:09:17,100 --> 00:09:20,790 focused very much around the figure of 216 00:09:18,870 --> 00:09:21,690 the leader around marine lepen she is 217 00:09:20,790 --> 00:09:24,660 now discredited 218 00:09:21,690 --> 00:09:26,610 because she failed to to get through in 219 00:09:24,660 --> 00:09:29,430 the second round of the elections and so 220 00:09:26,610 --> 00:09:30,420 her niece has essentially pushed her out 221 00:09:29,430 --> 00:09:33,030 of the party 222 00:09:30,420 --> 00:09:35,130 so the from nacional is a little bit 223 00:09:33,030 --> 00:09:38,270 like you Kip at the moment was a bit 224 00:09:35,130 --> 00:09:41,550 like the Borgias down her own father 225 00:09:38,270 --> 00:09:45,260 turned on her we see this a lot in 226 00:09:41,550 --> 00:09:50,490 French politics this dynastic politics 227 00:09:45,260 --> 00:09:53,730 it's almost Miliband dish and it's quite 228 00:09:50,490 --> 00:09:55,740 ironic that macrons University thesis as 229 00:09:53,730 --> 00:09:57,950 a student was on Machiavelli's so that 230 00:09:55,740 --> 00:10:01,950 seems to know quite well how well if I 231 00:09:57,950 --> 00:10:04,260 know tell us in closing what are the 232 00:10:01,950 --> 00:10:06,450 main things that macaron has done in his 233 00:10:04,260 --> 00:10:09,090 first hundred days and what's he likely 234 00:10:06,450 --> 00:10:11,130 to do next well he's had successes and 235 00:10:09,090 --> 00:10:13,170 failures so his successors have been 236 00:10:11,130 --> 00:10:15,360 reaching out to other parties in order 237 00:10:13,170 --> 00:10:18,690 to unite them into a Coalition of the 238 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:21,180 Willing he has had some defeat while not 239 00:10:18,690 --> 00:10:23,310 defeats but difficult moments the most 240 00:10:21,180 --> 00:10:25,980 emphatic one was the resignation of 241 00:10:23,310 --> 00:10:27,840 general de Villiers as the chief of 242 00:10:25,980 --> 00:10:32,330 staff at the French military because of 243 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:34,860 macrons proposals for a 650 million euro 244 00:10:32,330 --> 00:10:37,470 reduction to the military budget and 245 00:10:34,860 --> 00:10:40,440 we're also seeing a difficult Foreign 246 00:10:37,470 --> 00:10:42,660 Relations emerging between macron Trump 247 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:44,100 and next month we're going to see 248 00:10:42,660 --> 00:10:46,500 difficulties with him in Germany 249 00:10:44,100 --> 00:10:48,900 macrons big test is going to be in the 250 00:10:46,500 --> 00:10:50,820 next three months over the summer it's 251 00:10:48,900 --> 00:10:53,460 generally quiet in Western European 252 00:10:50,820 --> 00:10:55,110 politics next month we're going to see 253 00:10:53,460 --> 00:10:57,480 the beginning of the protests and the 254 00:10:55,110 --> 00:11:00,330 inevitable riots against his proposed 255 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:01,860 labor reforms which will make it easy at 256 00:11:00,330 --> 00:11:04,140 a higher people but make it easier to 257 00:11:01,860 --> 00:11:05,850 fire people as well so we're going to 258 00:11:04,140 --> 00:11:08,250 see a lot of protests against that and 259 00:11:05,850 --> 00:11:09,720 we're going to see macron dealing with 260 00:11:08,250 --> 00:11:12,030 whatever has been the outcome of the 261 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:14,610 German election to see whether his 262 00:11:12,030 --> 00:11:16,470 intended proposals for European reform 263 00:11:14,610 --> 00:11:19,200 are going to be carried through on a 264 00:11:16,470 --> 00:11:20,280 franco-german coalition or whether 265 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:24,990 they're going to fall at the first 266 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:28,530 hurdle so not necessarily rose petals in 267 00:11:24,990 --> 00:11:32,220 front of him could be a long hot winter 268 00:11:28,530 --> 00:11:34,050 actually of labour discontent and nobody 269 00:11:32,220 --> 00:11:34,750 does labour our discontent like the 270 00:11:34,050 --> 00:11:36,100 French 271 00:11:34,750 --> 00:11:38,350 the French have a rare gift for 272 00:11:36,100 --> 00:11:41,740 demonstrating public dissatisfaction and 273 00:11:38,350 --> 00:11:44,650 in a car in a country with rising 274 00:11:41,740 --> 00:11:46,990 unemployment with difficult domestic 275 00:11:44,650 --> 00:11:48,580 political situations macron is going to 276 00:11:46,990 --> 00:11:49,930 be faced with some very difficult times 277 00:11:48,580 --> 00:11:52,300 just as well they've got rid of all 278 00:11:49,930 --> 00:11:54,280 those cobblestones in the streets of 279 00:11:52,300 --> 00:11:57,310 Paris your students are lucky to have 280 00:11:54,280 --> 00:12:01,030 you well foster thanks for joining us on 281 00:11:57,310 --> 00:12:02,980 the sputnik thank you after the break as 282 00:12:01,030 --> 00:12:03,880 the u.s. begins to fall apart at the 283 00:12:02,980 --> 00:12:05,620 racial seams 284 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:14,440 what is next on the front line between 285 00:12:05,620 --> 00:12:17,290 Russia and the USA stay tuned welcome 286 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:19,600 back to Sputnik at the time of making 287 00:12:17,290 --> 00:12:22,090 this recording Donald Trump is still 288 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:25,210 President of the United States but he 289 00:12:22,090 --> 00:12:27,580 may not be much longer as his deep state 290 00:12:25,210 --> 00:12:29,650 enemies swarm around him Donald Trump 291 00:12:27,580 --> 00:12:31,990 made a potentially fatal error over 292 00:12:29,650 --> 00:12:34,390 Charlottesville it may have achieved a 293 00:12:31,990 --> 00:12:36,520 critical mass of disapproval that's this 294 00:12:34,390 --> 00:12:38,620 internal crisis make the u.s. less 295 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:41,230 dangerous to the rest of the world or 296 00:12:38,620 --> 00:12:44,380 more dangerous joining us to discuss it 297 00:12:41,230 --> 00:12:47,860 is dr. Thomas Pearson ik a writer on 298 00:12:44,380 --> 00:12:50,350 Artie's op edge and editor of the London 299 00:12:47,860 --> 00:12:52,300 progressive journal and also a junior 300 00:12:50,350 --> 00:12:55,030 hospital doctor who's just come off 301 00:12:52,300 --> 00:12:57,370 shift after just a couple of hours sleep 302 00:12:55,030 --> 00:12:59,490 that you won't be able to tell doctor 303 00:12:57,370 --> 00:13:03,550 thanks for squeezing us into your 304 00:12:59,490 --> 00:13:09,339 extremely busy professional life many 305 00:13:03,550 --> 00:13:12,550 people think that the complete mayhem in 306 00:13:09,339 --> 00:13:14,640 Washington where nobody seems to stay in 307 00:13:12,550 --> 00:13:18,460 their job for more than five minutes 308 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:20,530 well the president sometimes appears to 309 00:13:18,460 --> 00:13:24,000 be ready to fire himself all of these 310 00:13:20,530 --> 00:13:26,560 tax as if he wants to be fired and 311 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:29,860 everyone stabbing each other in the back 312 00:13:26,560 --> 00:13:31,750 the party system has collapsed many 313 00:13:29,860 --> 00:13:33,280 people think that's good because they 314 00:13:31,750 --> 00:13:36,100 won't be able to pay much attention to 315 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:38,740 the rest of us that's not necessarily 316 00:13:36,100 --> 00:13:40,480 true is it you're right George thank you 317 00:13:38,740 --> 00:13:42,160 about me on the show why should it be 318 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:44,650 here I'm you're absolutely right the 319 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:46,480 u.s. is an empire in decline it's a slow 320 00:13:44,650 --> 00:13:48,730 decline but nevertheless it isn't 321 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:50,620 decline and actually like a like a 322 00:13:48,730 --> 00:13:53,170 cornered animal it's most dangerous when 323 00:13:50,620 --> 00:13:54,399 it's cornered and I mean the US is going 324 00:13:53,170 --> 00:13:57,850 down but the problem is it might take 325 00:13:54,399 --> 00:14:01,810 some all the world with it well that I 326 00:13:57,850 --> 00:14:05,230 mean you meet that almost as a quip but 327 00:14:01,810 --> 00:14:08,310 it's true over North Korea yeah if if 328 00:14:05,230 --> 00:14:11,769 Donald Trump like dr. Strangelove claims 329 00:14:08,310 --> 00:14:16,060 astride a nuclear bomb and wearing a 330 00:14:11,769 --> 00:14:19,750 cowboy hat descends shouting we on his 331 00:14:16,060 --> 00:14:24,160 way into Pyongyang Russia and China will 332 00:14:19,750 --> 00:14:27,040 will respond in in a nuclear way they're 333 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:29,589 bound to if you fire a nuclear weapon at 334 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:32,800 their next-door neighbor there's only 335 00:14:29,589 --> 00:14:34,949 one way that that can end and it's not 336 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:37,000 actually all that fantastical is it 337 00:14:34,949 --> 00:14:38,380 absolutely not and it's not just Russia 338 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,990 and China that reported North Korea 339 00:14:38,380 --> 00:14:42,699 South Korea Seoul where the which is the 340 00:14:40,990 --> 00:14:44,380 u.s. Li and it's also pushing for war 341 00:14:42,699 --> 00:14:46,209 with North Korea they would also be 342 00:14:44,380 --> 00:14:47,350 obliterated the Seoul the capital of 343 00:14:46,209 --> 00:14:49,360 South Korea is only about a hundred 344 00:14:47,350 --> 00:14:51,730 miles from the earth yes Korean South 345 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:53,470 you all forget that so if anyone comes 346 00:14:51,730 --> 00:14:57,029 bombed North Korea North Korea could be 347 00:14:53,470 --> 00:14:59,500 there an afternoon mmm precisely and 348 00:14:57,029 --> 00:15:02,050 North Korea will no doubt she'll South 349 00:14:59,500 --> 00:15:03,880 Korea over artillery and bomb them also 350 00:15:02,050 --> 00:15:05,319 very bomb any nuclear bomb is dropped in 351 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:05,740 North Korea South Korea goes up in 352 00:15:05,319 --> 00:15:07,300 flames 353 00:15:05,740 --> 00:15:09,490 part of parts of China and Russia 354 00:15:07,300 --> 00:15:11,920 bordering North Korea will stir Goffin 355 00:15:09,490 --> 00:15:14,769 flames I mean to put it like that you'd 356 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:16,750 think that can't possibly happen but 357 00:15:14,769 --> 00:15:19,180 Trump is proving that anything is 358 00:15:16,750 --> 00:15:20,079 possible isn't he absolutely and it's 359 00:15:19,180 --> 00:15:21,430 not just in North Korea where the 360 00:15:20,079 --> 00:15:24,279 problems are occurring no I've seen on 361 00:15:21,430 --> 00:15:27,100 escalations in Syria Ukraine I mean Adam 362 00:15:24,279 --> 00:15:28,630 if leaders all started under Obama but I 363 00:15:27,100 --> 00:15:30,250 think the u.s. is exclusive power and 364 00:15:28,630 --> 00:15:31,149 it's desperately trying to hold on it's 365 00:15:30,250 --> 00:15:33,490 desperately trying to hold on to power 366 00:15:31,149 --> 00:15:35,529 and behave me more more irrationally and 367 00:15:33,490 --> 00:15:37,540 more ethically but sometimes it's make 368 00:15:35,529 --> 00:15:40,569 the point that he was not going into 369 00:15:37,540 --> 00:15:42,760 this foreign adventures like his 370 00:15:40,569 --> 00:15:44,260 predecessors that's true he actually 371 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:47,199 held back and he some being quite 372 00:15:44,260 --> 00:15:48,339 reluctant to arm to give offensive 373 00:15:47,199 --> 00:15:50,110 weapons to the Ukrainian government he's 374 00:15:48,339 --> 00:15:52,149 also mentioned recently there's going to 375 00:15:50,110 --> 00:15:54,279 pull back on Armenian the moderates or 376 00:15:52,149 --> 00:15:56,740 slightly slightly us moderate nicest 377 00:15:54,279 --> 00:15:58,480 terrorists in Syria however the problem 378 00:15:56,740 --> 00:16:01,200 is some Trump is himself he has a hands 379 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:03,510 tied but a deep state the the media the 380 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:06,269 intelligence organizations the power of 381 00:16:03,510 --> 00:16:08,130 the M of the of the Congress and Senate 382 00:16:06,269 --> 00:16:10,440 they are pushing into war if you think 383 00:16:08,130 --> 00:16:14,220 for example when when we had that went 384 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:17,579 from female Saucony bombed the air base 385 00:16:14,220 --> 00:16:19,100 in Syria after the alleged attack 386 00:16:17,579 --> 00:16:21,389 chemical attack of a shake on it shake 387 00:16:19,100 --> 00:16:22,320 can't shake hoon doesn't know evidence 388 00:16:21,389 --> 00:16:24,720 of course for that but nevertheless 389 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:26,430 trump him order a tomahawk strike 390 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,649 against them over dinner with the 391 00:16:26,430 --> 00:16:30,630 Chinese President yeah he even told us 392 00:16:28,649 --> 00:16:31,980 what he was eating when he gave the when 393 00:16:30,630 --> 00:16:32,880 he pressed the button that's right thing 394 00:16:31,980 --> 00:16:34,860 you've referred to it's after dinner 395 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:36,180 entertainment yes though several people 396 00:16:34,860 --> 00:16:38,310 lost their lives civilians and Syrian 397 00:16:36,180 --> 00:16:39,480 soldiers like but of course it's 398 00:16:38,310 --> 00:16:40,889 different because after in the death he 399 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,089 went out he went up in this theme of the 400 00:16:40,889 --> 00:16:43,350 Democrats you end up and he's steamin 401 00:16:42,089 --> 00:16:45,240 liberals they're very liberals who are 402 00:16:43,350 --> 00:16:47,910 criticizing him for homophobia misogyny 403 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:49,649 all alike suddenly thought hey this is a 404 00:16:47,910 --> 00:16:52,980 good guy he's doing exactly what Clinton 405 00:16:49,649 --> 00:16:57,389 would have done what Obama did this 406 00:16:52,980 --> 00:17:00,779 dichotomy is mystifying the deep state 407 00:16:57,389 --> 00:17:04,679 is busily devouring him there are little 408 00:17:00,779 --> 00:17:07,290 alike piranha fish devouring him and yet 409 00:17:04,679 --> 00:17:10,380 he continues to do the things that they 410 00:17:07,290 --> 00:17:13,290 want him to do presumably in the forlorn 411 00:17:10,380 --> 00:17:15,780 hope that they'll stop eating him but 412 00:17:13,290 --> 00:17:18,270 he's already too too far eaten it seems 413 00:17:15,780 --> 00:17:21,419 to me why doesn't he do something 414 00:17:18,270 --> 00:17:22,530 different instead I mean he could do but 415 00:17:21,419 --> 00:17:25,919 I think he's trying to swing both ways 416 00:17:22,530 --> 00:17:27,120 he's trying to um if you see if you did 417 00:17:25,919 --> 00:17:28,230 something different you'll actually for 418 00:17:27,120 --> 00:17:30,030 example said I'm making peace of Russia 419 00:17:28,230 --> 00:17:32,040 I'm gonna develop it relations with 420 00:17:30,030 --> 00:17:33,960 Russia I'm not gonna arm terrorists and 421 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:36,270 in Syria I'm not gonna support the 422 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:41,400 Ukrainian regime you could find yourself 423 00:17:36,270 --> 00:17:43,169 impeached a lot faster no let's talk 424 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:46,799 about the Ukraine and then I want to ask 425 00:17:43,169 --> 00:17:49,919 you about sanctions the the cool 426 00:17:46,799 --> 00:17:53,660 government in Ukraine they are John 427 00:17:49,919 --> 00:17:57,059 McCain and the president the 428 00:17:53,660 --> 00:17:57,780 administration before this of President 429 00:17:57,059 --> 00:18:01,549 Obama's 430 00:17:57,780 --> 00:18:05,250 friends you're right Trump is less 431 00:18:01,549 --> 00:18:07,910 willing it would appear to fight Russia 432 00:18:05,250 --> 00:18:11,309 on the Ukrainian front but nonetheless 433 00:18:07,910 --> 00:18:14,370 armed conflict still continues there and 434 00:18:11,309 --> 00:18:14,860 it is one of the great flash points in 435 00:18:14,370 --> 00:18:17,590 the world 436 00:18:14,860 --> 00:18:19,390 this time there's a person conflicted on 437 00:18:17,590 --> 00:18:21,520 bass the problem is portion called the 438 00:18:19,390 --> 00:18:25,120 president he's in a difficult position 439 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:27,010 because the far-right fascist to help 440 00:18:25,120 --> 00:18:28,960 him get the power they're pushing him 441 00:18:27,010 --> 00:18:30,220 for war and totally they wants to total 442 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,260 obliteration genocide on people in 443 00:18:30,220 --> 00:18:34,870 Thomas however portion connotes a 444 00:18:32,260 --> 00:18:35,440 Ukrainian army is far too weak to defeat 445 00:18:34,870 --> 00:18:37,420 them 446 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:39,960 the rebels who are now much better armed 447 00:18:37,420 --> 00:18:41,740 and interesting enough allot the the 448 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:43,870 enforcement of Russian got a lot the 449 00:18:41,740 --> 00:18:44,679 weapons from Ukraine and because they're 450 00:18:43,870 --> 00:18:46,299 kind of soldiers many fled the 451 00:18:44,679 --> 00:18:48,070 battlefield they left off the weapons 452 00:18:46,299 --> 00:18:50,410 behind and those weapons in turn came 453 00:18:48,070 --> 00:18:52,840 from NATO so the the rebels in eastern 454 00:18:50,410 --> 00:18:54,190 actually arm down by NATO weapons they 455 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,929 now have metal weapons to fight back so 456 00:18:54,190 --> 00:18:57,130 they can actually a Ukraine now and you 457 00:18:55,929 --> 00:18:59,200 na me quite a bloody nose and actually 458 00:18:57,130 --> 00:19:01,000 and Poconos if the invades again you 459 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,750 might be not only the end of the US but 460 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:05,049 the end of Ukraine 461 00:19:01,750 --> 00:19:08,470 what's Ukraine well that's an 462 00:19:05,049 --> 00:19:11,710 interesting point is Ukraine as a single 463 00:19:08,470 --> 00:19:15,250 state viable in the long term or are 464 00:19:11,710 --> 00:19:18,040 these regions that have more or less 465 00:19:15,250 --> 00:19:20,320 declared themselves as independent 466 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:23,260 countries is that problem going to grow 467 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:26,169 can the Ukraine be reunited should it be 468 00:19:23,260 --> 00:19:28,540 reunited possibly if it's real I said it 469 00:19:26,169 --> 00:19:31,510 might be the reuniting might occur with 470 00:19:28,540 --> 00:19:32,620 other reasons joined the Russia because 471 00:19:31,510 --> 00:19:35,020 at the moment Ukraine's economies and 472 00:19:32,620 --> 00:19:36,490 catters the civil rights couldn't Lee go 473 00:19:35,020 --> 00:19:37,780 on that window you can be there's 474 00:19:36,490 --> 00:19:39,580 posters up in Ukraine saying you can be 475 00:19:37,780 --> 00:19:41,710 arrested and put prison for being quote 476 00:19:39,580 --> 00:19:43,570 separatist and as opposed to saying cool 477 00:19:41,710 --> 00:19:45,309 even phone numbers saying call this 478 00:19:43,570 --> 00:19:46,419 number if you're if you see a separate 479 00:19:45,309 --> 00:19:47,110 if you Leonora sir if you know 480 00:19:46,419 --> 00:19:48,250 separatist 481 00:19:47,110 --> 00:19:50,380 except for this is someone basically 482 00:19:48,250 --> 00:19:51,850 who's against the regime so of course we 483 00:19:50,380 --> 00:19:53,950 the media will in the Western media toss 484 00:19:51,850 --> 00:19:55,419 not about Russia's so-called done human 485 00:19:53,950 --> 00:19:58,320 rights abuses but I have not seen a 486 00:19:55,419 --> 00:20:00,370 single report and recently at least 487 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,960 we're saying that you can get be 488 00:20:00,370 --> 00:20:03,880 important person for several years for 489 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,860 criticizing the regime thank you know of 490 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,600 course there's more than one way to skin 491 00:20:05,860 --> 00:20:11,200 a cat there's more than one way to have 492 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:15,280 a war quarantine economic sanctions are 493 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:18,809 themselves a kind of war there's no loss 494 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:22,960 of appetite on the part of Trump's us 495 00:20:18,809 --> 00:20:24,730 for continuing to sanction Russia even 496 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:27,250 though it's damaging to the European 497 00:20:24,730 --> 00:20:29,700 countries and particularly damaging to 498 00:20:27,250 --> 00:20:32,620 Germany which has a crucial 499 00:20:29,700 --> 00:20:34,630 parliamentary election coming up what 500 00:20:32,620 --> 00:20:37,660 can you tell us about the state of the 501 00:20:34,630 --> 00:20:39,490 sanctions war oh it's you 502 00:20:37,660 --> 00:20:40,990 and the sanctions say I'm infected as 503 00:20:39,490 --> 00:20:42,250 you mentioned you also affected on the 504 00:20:40,990 --> 00:20:43,930 EU countries much more than a half 505 00:20:42,250 --> 00:20:46,120 Russia America is not really affected 506 00:20:43,930 --> 00:20:47,020 because it's too far too far away so 507 00:20:46,120 --> 00:20:49,360 America doesn't care so much about 508 00:20:47,020 --> 00:20:50,830 sanctions Russia actually since 509 00:20:49,360 --> 00:20:52,390 essentially so put in place a few years 510 00:20:50,830 --> 00:20:54,850 ago and they actually relied more on 511 00:20:52,390 --> 00:20:56,740 domestic produce actually the Russian 512 00:20:54,850 --> 00:20:58,450 farmers are benefited if a crush is 513 00:20:56,740 --> 00:21:00,360 actually switch thwarted domestic 514 00:20:58,450 --> 00:21:03,070 production and also it's may stronger 515 00:21:00,360 --> 00:21:04,030 economic ties make strong economic ties 516 00:21:03,070 --> 00:21:06,010 with the countries to these to the 517 00:21:04,030 --> 00:21:07,270 Russia like China the EU has lost 518 00:21:06,010 --> 00:21:08,620 billions however Germany in particular 519 00:21:07,270 --> 00:21:10,630 there's lost billions that's why it's 520 00:21:08,620 --> 00:21:11,950 number of junctions and Italian 521 00:21:10,630 --> 00:21:13,960 politicians who are anti sanctions and 522 00:21:11,950 --> 00:21:15,910 desperately campaigning and lobbying the 523 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,110 new parliament to cut the sanctions that 524 00:21:15,910 --> 00:21:20,110 if you look at the North North stream 525 00:21:17,110 --> 00:21:22,660 pipeline for example America actually 526 00:21:20,110 --> 00:21:24,420 said that they're going to punish any EU 527 00:21:22,660 --> 00:21:28,750 companies that collaborate with Russia 528 00:21:24,420 --> 00:21:29,830 on building a pipeline so essentially it 529 00:21:28,750 --> 00:21:31,330 shows how quickly miracle of thirst 530 00:21:29,830 --> 00:21:35,380 allies so-called allies I'm the robust 531 00:21:31,330 --> 00:21:40,090 well this is a part of German capital in 532 00:21:35,380 --> 00:21:41,320 particular and indeed since the end of 533 00:21:40,090 --> 00:21:44,200 the Second World War 534 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:47,680 for obvious reasons and more so since 535 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:49,990 the reunification of Germany it's kind 536 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:52,330 of no brainer that Germany can only 537 00:21:49,990 --> 00:21:55,510 benefit from good relations with Russia 538 00:21:52,330 --> 00:21:57,850 and the US are determined to spoil that 539 00:21:55,510 --> 00:22:00,700 and it's amazing that Merkel has gone 540 00:21:57,850 --> 00:22:02,560 along with it as far as she has in the 541 00:22:00,700 --> 00:22:05,320 run-up to the elections that could begin 542 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:07,090 to be a real election issue couldn't she 543 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,890 might not win another term I think I'm 544 00:22:07,090 --> 00:22:11,230 it depends also it depends on a couple 545 00:22:08,890 --> 00:22:13,630 things one thing is do the leaders of 546 00:22:11,230 --> 00:22:15,190 Germany and the other EU nations do they 547 00:22:13,630 --> 00:22:16,480 love the people more than they hate 548 00:22:15,190 --> 00:22:18,130 Russia or are they willing to go along 549 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,570 with sanctions at the detrimental that 550 00:22:18,130 --> 00:22:22,180 people there are businesses if they do 551 00:22:19,570 --> 00:22:23,170 they economies will collapse if I do 552 00:22:22,180 --> 00:22:25,210 America's bidding their economies 553 00:22:23,170 --> 00:22:26,380 collapse and Britain for example may I 554 00:22:25,210 --> 00:22:27,520 mean depending whether are they managed 555 00:22:26,380 --> 00:22:28,840 to push through or not whether if they 556 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:31,510 find a way around it Britain may well 557 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:33,070 have it for exit in 2019 so Britain 558 00:22:31,510 --> 00:22:34,600 itself is gonna need some more meat to 559 00:22:33,070 --> 00:22:36,910 make new friends and trade partners so 560 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:39,580 it's like if Britain had any sense that 561 00:22:36,910 --> 00:22:42,490 would be making better 562 00:22:39,580 --> 00:22:45,570 because Britain's going to have to look 563 00:22:42,490 --> 00:22:49,360 for its own arrangements its own deals 564 00:22:45,570 --> 00:22:51,460 with countries like Russia and others 565 00:22:49,360 --> 00:22:53,559 look it's been marvelous having you back 566 00:22:51,460 --> 00:22:55,720 and the fact that you've hardly been to 567 00:22:53,559 --> 00:22:58,120 bed after a long shift is a junior 568 00:22:55,720 --> 00:23:01,059 doctor makes your performance all the 569 00:22:58,120 --> 00:23:07,570 more creditable thanks very much 570 00:23:01,059 --> 00:23:09,190 Tomas for coming on the selection and 571 00:23:07,570 --> 00:23:11,140 now it's your turn to tell us what you 572 00:23:09,190 --> 00:23:13,660 think through the portals of social 573 00:23:11,140 --> 00:23:15,370 media what's rattling Gayatri well we 574 00:23:13,660 --> 00:23:16,990 had a good debate going on on the 575 00:23:15,370 --> 00:23:19,630 question whether macaron and his 576 00:23:16,990 --> 00:23:22,990 centrist party is actually the model for 577 00:23:19,630 --> 00:23:25,210 Europe's future Steven Robertson says I 578 00:23:22,990 --> 00:23:28,090 will be surprised if macaron is still in 579 00:23:25,210 --> 00:23:32,020 power Christmas 2017 nevermind post 580 00:23:28,090 --> 00:23:34,000 brexit Chewbacca says no thanks we had 581 00:23:32,020 --> 00:23:36,010 this kind of nonsense 20 years ago when 582 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,900 Blair came into being France 583 00:23:36,010 --> 00:23:40,630 ought to catch up otherwise they will 584 00:23:37,900 --> 00:23:43,360 regret it but we also have you 585 00:23:40,630 --> 00:23:45,850 Appenzeller saying he has a uniting and 586 00:23:43,360 --> 00:23:48,880 healing power to refocus on our core 587 00:23:45,850 --> 00:23:51,400 European values after World War Two and 588 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:53,350 we should all be proud of that well I'm 589 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:57,400 not sure what our core European values 590 00:23:53,350 --> 00:24:00,490 after all are two but one shouldn't 591 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:02,500 underestimate macron any more than it 592 00:24:00,490 --> 00:24:04,240 was correct to underestimate Tories well 593 00:24:02,500 --> 00:24:06,549 the reason we're still talking about 594 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:08,679 tony blair is because he was really very 595 00:24:06,549 --> 00:24:12,460 good at it and he won three elections 596 00:24:08,679 --> 00:24:15,790 albeit losing a few million votes along 597 00:24:12,460 --> 00:24:19,059 the way and if you manage to extract 598 00:24:15,790 --> 00:24:22,570 from your mind the disaster of iraq and 599 00:24:19,059 --> 00:24:27,370 so on you could say that for a while he 600 00:24:22,570 --> 00:24:29,940 was a very successful act and so it was 601 00:24:27,370 --> 00:24:34,150 an act that's a very key point and 602 00:24:29,940 --> 00:24:36,460 macron is to enact but and that can go 603 00:24:34,150 --> 00:24:39,340 for quite some time that's right in the 604 00:24:36,460 --> 00:24:41,530 absence of a credible alternative act or 605 00:24:39,340 --> 00:24:44,559 alternative force and that's what 606 00:24:41,530 --> 00:24:47,770 surprised actually I'm very surprised 607 00:24:44,559 --> 00:24:50,620 I'm surprised that the collapse of the 608 00:24:47,770 --> 00:24:55,060 I'm surprised that the collapse of melon 609 00:24:50,620 --> 00:24:58,870 Chong Wei came within an ace of being 610 00:24:55,060 --> 00:25:01,330 the president of France and then his his 611 00:24:58,870 --> 00:25:04,150 parliamentary election performance was 612 00:25:01,330 --> 00:25:06,940 so poor its left macron in quite strong 613 00:25:04,150 --> 00:25:09,460 position but of course he stands for 614 00:25:06,940 --> 00:25:11,950 nothing like Blair stood for nothing and 615 00:25:09,460 --> 00:25:14,350 ultimately that's got to get found out 616 00:25:11,950 --> 00:25:16,930 so you'll definitely still be there at 617 00:25:14,350 --> 00:25:19,840 Christmas 2017 in fact you'll definitely 618 00:25:16,930 --> 00:25:21,640 serve out his whole term but I predict a 619 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:24,340 lot of trouble on the streets of France 620 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:26,920 over this winter house and stuff in 621 00:25:24,340 --> 00:25:29,470 supermarkets they do it in a way that no 622 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,760 one else can do it that's right well 623 00:25:29,470 --> 00:25:33,310 that's all the time we've got for the 624 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,990 tweets today which alas means that's the 625 00:25:33,310 --> 00:25:37,030 end of the show but you can stay in 626 00:25:34,990 --> 00:25:39,520 touch with us on Facebook Sputnik on 627 00:25:37,030 --> 00:25:41,440 Russia Today or Twitter RT underscores 628 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,510 put Nick it's goodbye from me Gayathri 629 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:45,750 and for me George Galloway it's been 630 00:25:43,510 --> 00:25:45,750 marvelous 631 00:25:53,090 --> 00:25:55,150 you