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welcome to Sputnik orbiting the world

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with me George Galloway and me gri the

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president is dead well not quite yet but

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not for the want of trying long live the

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president it's becoming quite a habit

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first in the Ukraine and now in Egypt

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president Muhammad mury barely got a

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year with which to apply his Democratic

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mandate before a military coup hiding

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behind genuine popular grievances

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overthrew him although General CeCe will

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now be called the president he'll always

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be the general to me and to most

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Egyptians who boycotted his neither free

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nor fair election in which he won I

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suppose we could put that in quotes over

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90% of the vote election or no election

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General CCE had already been ruling the

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country as the head of a military jenta

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for nearly a year whilst mory's Year of

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Living Dangerously in cairo's

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presidential Palace was hardly a great

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economic or political success he surely

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doesn't deserve to be behind bars

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accused of being the head of a terrorist

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organization and of such unusual crimes

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for an Arab president of collaborating

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with the Palestinian resistance and what

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message does it send to islamist

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organizations that they can fight

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Democratic elections they can even win

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them but they will never be permitted to

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rule at least Through The Ballot Box

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joining us now to discuss the crisis in

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Egypt is one of the Muslim world's most

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important and most eloquent analysts

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he's the head of the Cordoba Foundation

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Dr anas alrti Dr anas thanks for joining

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us it's farsal isn't it over 90% of the

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vote but the most telling uh uh

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circumstance is surely the huge numbers

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of people who didn't vote at all well

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George thank you very much for having me

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on and uh you're absolutely right the

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questions that you ask are absolutely

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spot- on I mean the the fact of the

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matter is that we're back to the bad old

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days we're back to the 90% plus uh free

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and fair votes um but as you rightly put

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it the the actual story that is be even

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being reported by the official uh media

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outlets and broadcasters is a fact that

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no one turned up uh to the extent that

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um the reuter correspondent yesterday

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was reporting from three main um

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election posts and throughout those the

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three hours through three and a half

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hours that they were reporting tweeting

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throughout only one person turned out

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and this by the way was after the

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government had extended extended the

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elections for the third day third day

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they said because it had been too hot it

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been too hot and people were sort of

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busy celebrating the atmosphere of the

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elections and therefore they were a

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little bit taken back and weren't ready

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to go out and actually vote so it's um

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it's nothing less than fical but then

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again since the military coup

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unfortunately we're back to how

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the vast majority of the Arab world is

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we're back to um the status quo we're

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back to how certain regimes particularly

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in the Gulf would love for things to be

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in Egypt and Beyond and the actual

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president is in prison yep uh facing

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what by any stretch of the imagination

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are capital charges in other words he

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might be executed was the dictator that

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the revolution overthrew is outside of

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jail and uh whilst The General says he's

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the heir of President nasar he is in

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fact the heir of President Mubarak no

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true in fact if anything then even the

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official commentators um are all saying

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quite clearly that we are now back to

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times that are even worse in terms of

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human rights in terms of freedoms in

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terms of econ the economy everything uh

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back to even worse than how they were in

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early 2011 before Mubarak was outed by

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the Egyptian Revolution so it's um it's

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it's a funny State of Affairs and to be

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absolutely honest whilst this looking at

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the the Arab world over the past Century

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you'd see well this is sort of PA of

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course but what is strange is how the

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so-called Democratic world the West is

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reacting to all this because whilst we

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have seen in front of our eyes in front

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of you know hundreds of millions

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billions in fact watching their screens

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as a military coup actually unfolded

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minute by minute the west then and

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particularly our government here in the

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UK chooses to actually look into and

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investigate the victims the Muslim

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Brotherhood whilst the world world

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watches and does absolutely nothing it's

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to be honest it's it's it's that that

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really is is totally baffling speaking

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of Human Rights the 700 people um for

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death penalty that must be a joke yeah

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they are not really going to be well

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I'll tell you what I mean the numbers

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are uh hilarious if not tragic uh on

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their own account but if you actually

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knew the details of how this was passed

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it would become really you know beyond

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funny um a court hearing that was for

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less than 90 minutes uh precisely 86

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minutes in which the judge managed to

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look through the case of 527 on one

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occasion then 638 on a second occasion

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cases out of whom less than 15 people

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ever saw the inside of that Court most

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of and by the way amongst those sent

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sentenced to death were people who had

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already died one of them one of them by

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the way was a Palestinian who had been

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mared by an Israeli uh missile more than

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seven years ago he was he was declared a

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terrorist who had perpetrated certain

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crimes the other thing is that all these

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people were condemned to death and

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condemned to hang because all of them

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had killed one policeman we're talking

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about unfortunately uh a part of the

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world which uh nothing is independent

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the Judiciary is totally politicized the

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political is totally securitized and

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everything is absolutely corrupt and

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therefore the media of course now media

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completely hegemonic 100% property as as

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soon as within one hour I mean we can

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talk about the shortcomings and the

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failures of Mory all we want will

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however within the 11 month that he was

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in in rule not one single person was

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arrested for their views and their

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opinions not one single Media Station

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was closed down or oppressed because

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they were criticizing the president and

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they were throughout those 11 months

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within an hour of him being ousted 17

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media stations were closed down more

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than 312 journalists and media

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spokespeople were arrested and within a

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matter of 3 months we had more than

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19,000 political prisoners it just tells

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you what kind of situation we indeed it

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it speaks uh volumes but we can't uh

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elide uh the shortcomings of uh mory's

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Administration it is a bit of a world

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record all of this is world record

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territory but it's a bit of a world

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record to have won an election and have

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so many people dislike you nothing like

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the Absurd figures that are claimed of

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course but clearly

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Millions uh dislike you so much that

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they're on the streets and creating the

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cover for a military Jun to overthrow

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you I think that there are a number of

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things to be said first of all the Arab

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Spring at the very height of it in early

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2011 with the way in which the bin Ali

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regime in Tunisia fell and then the hus

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Mubarak regime

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fell that brought with it uh an

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incredible amount of Hope and aspiration

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and maybe you know M and maybe you know

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the naha in Tunisia maybe they were sort

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of victims to that kind of high level of

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aspiration and hopes people thought that

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and they had the right to hope that you

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know within a matter of days weeks maybe

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maybe even a couple of months things

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would be sorted out so when it took a

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year or two years even and the problems

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were still mounting and people were

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still finding it difficult on a daily

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level of course people got quite anxious

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but you can't really put aside the fact

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that a country that had been riddled

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with corruption political military uh

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economic on every single level for

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decades you really realistically can't

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expect things to change within a matter

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of 11 months with all you know the kind

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attempts some uh true some maybe for

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populist reasons to reach out to engage

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we had the very first cop vice president

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in the history of Egypt we had the very

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first vice president female in the

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history of Egypt we had the very first

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time that a president who had the chance

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of appointing 52 members to the

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consultative council from his own party

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elected only to choose six whilst all

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the others from all other parties but

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that was never good enough for the

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ideologues and you have to realize

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George that all these changes happened

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in Egypt and Tunisia all these things

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happened in a region where democracy

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Freedom the true will of people is to be

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forbid is never to be spoken of I mean

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when you have someone like Saudi Arabia

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where the changes in egyp would totally

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undermine it totally totally see that

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its own rule its own existence is you

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know totally without any kind of

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justification without any kind of

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credibility it it won't stay quiet

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whilst this goes on and people have

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their spent billions to try and bring

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down uh president morsy no doubt now

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General CeCe as I alluded earlier claims

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that he's uh the new nasar or some of

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his supporters do but nasar's rule was

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characterized by three things first of

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all total support for the Palestinian

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people and opposition to Israel General

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Cece

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couldn't be closer to Israel and is

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putting on trial president morsy for

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collaborating with the Palestinian

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resistance number two uh president nassa

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tried to bring down the reactionary

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feudal monarchies in the Gulf General

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CeCe has received billions of dollars

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from these very same reactionary feudal

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monarchies and of course president

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NASA's orientation was towards Moscow uh

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and uh General cces is C L uh towards

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the United States which despite a few

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words from President Obama and the media

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aftermath of the coup uh continues to

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arm and finance absolutely uh the

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military Jun so where do we go from here

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well it's um I I think there are a

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number of things that need to to happen

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first of all inside Egypt the popular

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Uprising is still ongoing every single

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day there are protests in there dozens

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if not hundreds on some occasions and

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particularly in populated areas we are

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seeing thousands hit the street despite

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the fact that every single one of those

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people who hit the streets will be

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threatened in terms of their jobs their

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welfare their security and probably

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their lives um so we're still seeing

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that and that to be honest is on the

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increase not on the fall as many

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including myself expected a few months

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ago the other thing that regionally we

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really have to see this idea this

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concept of the Arab Spring through and

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to be honest we need to see more change

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happening on the streets of areas that

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haven't directly been touched by the

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Arab Spring including Gulf States

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including the I mean really we need to

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see some real change take place because

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it's been proven now through Egypt and

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largely through Tunisia that any kind of

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change whether it be elections or

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Democratic revolutions or

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whatever those with money will see to it

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that those are undermined and scuppered

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so we need change regionally and I think

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that there are signs that s such changes

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is is taking place the third is we

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really need to work here in the West in

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the UK across the world in terms of

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really shaming these governments I mean

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the way I mean what you say is true

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about Obama making certain protestations

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just out of embarrassment because it's

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it's been such an embarrassment in in

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Egypt the way that this whole thing has

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happened but actually the support has

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been full and to be honest the only you

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know the only thing that I put to people

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is that the fact that Netanyahu and lo

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and behold Tony Blair supported CC I

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think tells us just about enough just

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about thank you very much Dr anas coming

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up after the break looking at China fast

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becoming economically the most powerful

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country in the world and thus inevitably

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increasingly pillared by the Western

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political class and their media Echo

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chamber whose hegemony China threatens

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we'll be right back

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welcome back to Sputnik Jude Woodward

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knows more about China than almost

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anybody else in this country she

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frequently lectures there and is the

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author of a forthcoming and much

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anticipated book on the subject formerly

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she was a very senior official in mayor

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Ken Livingston's London Administration

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and I'm glad to say she joins us now

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Jude I was in a session at the haon Y

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Festival last weekend uh where a

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collection of so-called China experts

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some of whom have done rather well uh

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out of China uh not only didn't have

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very many good things to see about China

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but we very clearly getting into battle

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mode uh all sorts of issues were raised

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uh but one of the China experts rather

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boldly predicted that China was going to

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collapse is

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it well uh there is a whole industry in

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say China's economy is about to collapse

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um the uh economists famously ran a

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front page Dragon about to run out of

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puff in 2002 so this has been the

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prediction year on year you have a

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ridiculous sort of approach that China's

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economy is slowing which indeed it has

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somewhat from its fastest rates of

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growth but last year it grew at 7.7% I

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think um they're anticipating 7.5 to

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7.7% this year that is slower than eight

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or nine or indeed 10% but the last

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quarter's growth in the United States

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was not

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.1% so who is slowing who has got a

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problem who's running out of BU yes but

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it's uh it it's predicted or it's

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predicated I should say these

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predictions on a belief that uh that

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nothing can be that successful for uh

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for such a long time China Has Lifted

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more people out of poverty than any

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country any regime in all human history

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in the past 30 years I suppose it's on

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the principle that what goes up must

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come down must it come down in China no

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definitely not there's no re it will

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slow sight slightly the population is

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aging that will reduce growth by one or

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2% a year but as long as it doesn't make

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stupid errors the structure of

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its economy is more effective than the

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structure of the

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West primarily the uh role of a very

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large State sector particularly State

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control over the banks and financial

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systems uh so that coming out of the

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financial crisis in 2008 China was in a

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position to direct its banks to invest

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in order to restimulate the economy and

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get it out of Crisis which the West

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pleaded with the banks to do this but

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had no control to make them do it um

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very high levels of investment in the

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economy high levels of savings so unless

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China makes some suicidal

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mistake um and embarks on a vast program

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of privatization of crucial sectors of

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the economy

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or gives into Western pressure for a

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very large revaluation of the R&B or the

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various things that the West demands

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there's no reason why it can't maintain

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a slower but considerably faster level

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of growth than anything seen in the west

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it's not of course China's not alone

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Vietnam has also been growing rather

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strongly based on a similar economic

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structure but also if you look at the um

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the period of most success of Japan for

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example it had very high investment

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levels which then came down and um it

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hit financial crisis plus a big

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revaluation of the end so as long as

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China doesn't do any of these stupid

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things which I believe are a product of

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capitalist free market economies then

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yeah you probably won't be surprised

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then that both of these demands were

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being made at the H on Wifi by

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representatives of the very biggest

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banks and uh other uh businesses doing

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well in their trade uh and investment

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with and in uh China instead China has

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made this turn hasn't it recently

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announced uh to more uh if you like uh

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direction of capital to building up

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itself to building up demand within

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China less export driven more more

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domestically oriented well it needs to

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do that because World Trade is so

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stagnant since the uh economic crisis

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there was virtually no growth in China's

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external trade in the first quarter of

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the year but this is not really a

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problem of China this is a problem of

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the world economy there is virtually

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there's no emergence from the great

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stagnation at the level of the western

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economies and so unless the Western

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economies start to pick up and trade

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starts to pick up there's no one to

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export isn't that also partly due to the

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fact that many plans that used to be in

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China established with cheap labor has

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all moved to Vietnam others well China

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is moving up the value chain what that

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means is that wage levels in China are

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rising therefore is not the location of

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choice for the most

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lowlevel basic type of manufacturing but

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at the same time China is moving up the

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value chain and

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increasingly um attracting other types

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of business which requires higher levels

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of technological it and other skills and

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also developing its

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own technology companies of course it's

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not just the economy coming under Fire

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the demand that China should be more

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capitalist if it's going to continue to

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grow and Thrive uh but just in case some

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foreign policy issues and also some

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internal ones are being dragged onto the

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battlefield let's deal with the internal

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one first in the sang Province where 40

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to 45% of the people are weor

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Muslims uh there is a a terrorist

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problem suicide bombings mass killings

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actually by these separatists and of

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course a Chinese government Crackdown uh

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on them suddenly we're beginning to hear

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Western commentators discover a long

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lost Sympathy for the plight of the

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Wagers China on the right lines in how

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it's handling this question there was a

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an article in the New York Times today

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or yesterday saying that the mess that's

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been made of the situation in the Middle

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East is that alqaeda forces are

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spreading all over the

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place um American intervention doesn't

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defeat Al-Qaeda it just displaces and

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and encourages it it and you have

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and some that obviously China is

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extremely worried as the Central Asian

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republics are very worried of some

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spillover of this type of uh development

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into

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to Jin Jang um it's taken a policy of

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its policy from 2011 I think was I think

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or 2010 was to direct very big levels of

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investment towards Jin Jang to try and

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grow The Province out of the problems

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but to some extent that's created more

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diff more problems

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because there's been a lot of inflow of

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population because there's um

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growth in business factories or mineral

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extraction Etc and not all of those jobs

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have gone to the local

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people so there are some economic

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grievances which China is trying to

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address and bring a lot of effort into

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but at the same time there's been an

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upsurge of you know quite horrible uh

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knife attacks on people in

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um Crim are real ET so there there's a

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there sort of stepped up security at the

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St same time I just uh briefly alas uh

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China's border or territorial disputes

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with Japan over Islands uh seems now to

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be being replicated in a conflict with

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Vietnam which is particularly sad for

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people of uh Our Generation uh what's

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the basis of that clash in with Vietnam

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well remember there's bad blood and has

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been bad blood between China and Vietnam

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for a long time which is a very sad

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thing and it is a product of a what was

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an even sadder thing which was the whole

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Soo Soviet conflict in the Cold War

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period um where China became very after

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falling out with Russia became very

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fearful of being encircled by pro-

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Soviet um regimes the dispute with

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Vietnam is of long duration the it

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looked looked

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like it was got getting into a good

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place Lea Jang visited Hanoi six months

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ago things have calmed down enormously

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over the last couple of years but then

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China decided to start drilling for oil

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now on China's side on

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this everyone else is already drilling

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for oil the only country that wasn't

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drilling for oil in the disputed areas

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was was China but

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unfortunately either a misjudgment or a

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deliberate um Step by drilling where

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they chose to drill it was a straight

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flare up with Vietnam well let's hope

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they can iron things out Jude Woodward I

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told you she was an expert thank you

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very much

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[Music]

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indeed and now it's your turn to tell us

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what you think through the portals of

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social media what's rattling gy well

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about the Egyptian elections we asked

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well first it was Ukraine and now Egypt

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how does the West gets away with this

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Eddie Bernard answers EU countries can't

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think beyond the Yankee dollar and are

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us lap dogs they choose US policy before

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their own and Greg bin says too much too

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often they call it selfdetermination a

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unique brand of US foreign policy indeed

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indeed it is yes but the med silence is

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uh more striking I keep saying This I

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Know Why the political leaders prefer

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General CeCe in charge because well they

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pay him and he'll do what they want them

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to what I fail to understand is how all

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these journalists hundreds of them in

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all countries are able to completely

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suspend judgment that they would

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normally be quick to make in other

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circumstances so that uh you know a coup

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in Ukraine a coup in Egypt becomes

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something that they welcome rather than

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condemn well that's why you're apply

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describing as the media Echo chamber

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yeah on China we ask when they will put

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up their political weight in the world

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to which we received quite a lot of

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hostile response on their domestic

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issues regarding human rights in some

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areas and of course it not being a

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democracy officially so will this be a

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Chinese Century to which Neil barington

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answers I think so went to a debate on

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that very subject and without a huge sec

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sacrifices of the Mao era would have

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never been possible well let's hope it's

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a

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multi-polar uh Century that's what I'm

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hoping for indeed and that's all we have

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time for which sadly means that's the

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end of the show please do keep in touch

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from me George Galloway it's been

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marvelous

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oh

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