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Welcome to Sputnik orbiting the world

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with me, George Galloway,

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and me, Gayatri.

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Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are not

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so much two cheeks of the same backsides

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as Godzilla 1 versus Godzilla 2.

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One blunders around the states, babbling

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incoherently against just about every

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subset of humanity. The other can't get

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about the states much and generally

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excuse vulgarity, but is deadly serious

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about being deadly.

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The billionaire Trump turns out not to

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be a billionaire at all. Whilst down

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home Hillary and Bill have amassed a

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king's ransom, some of it from kings,

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who's going to win? Can't they both

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lose? And what will it mean for us in

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the rest of the world? We're joined by

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Professor Indjet Parmar, head of

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international politics at London City

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University. First of all, who do you

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think's going to win? And secondly, uh

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what will be the main difference?

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Well, I I suspect that Hillary Clinton

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will win in November. Um even though the

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poll, the national polling may be quite

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close, uh we have to remember that the

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United States presidential election is

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50 separate elections in 50 separate

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states. And it's not like the EU

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referendum where they just tot up all

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the votes and decide who got the most.

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So it's first passed the post 50 times

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and the Democrats have an inbuilt

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structural advantage in terms of

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electoral college votes which come from

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big states like California and New York

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and so on. There would be important

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differences I think uh significant

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differences because I can't see them

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between a Trump and a Clinton

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presidency. I think Clinton presidency

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would first of all if you just look at

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America's kind of global uh position and

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role I don't think there'll be a major

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change at all in that uh even in terms

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of questioning what is that role what

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are the different institutional bases of

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that role what are the goals of it and

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the means by which it's to be achieved

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so in that regard I would say Hillary

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Clinton stands in a long line would

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stand in a long line of American

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presidents of both parties over at least

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since 1941. Um I think with Donald Trump

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there's a little bit more

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unpredictability. I think that's the big

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problem that he has said many many

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different things about the Middle East,

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about South Korea, about Japan, about

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NATO um such that it's difficult to know

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exactly what he might do. So I think

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that's why a lot of people who are

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people who are experienced in that area

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uh feel so much worry about him.

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But it's the predictability of Hillary

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Clinton that troubles me.

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fanatic about Israel, for example, on

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the Israel Palestine track. She's

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predictably determined to bring about

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regime change in Syria. She's

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predictably hawkish against Russia. Uh

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she is predictably on her warhorse. Now

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there's something to be said for

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predictability, but if it's predictably

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wrong and dangerous, which is what I

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think many people in the world see her

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as, that's a negative, not a positive.

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a foreign policy establishment mindset

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which is hooked into the sort of main

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bases of American power in the world and

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she thinks in that way. Um so that is a

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dangerous position in many cases for her

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particularly in regard to a place like

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Syria where there are so many different

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forces at work and uh there's a deep

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crisis and the kind of a the sort of

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blowback from that of the development of

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uh destabilizing regional actors more

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regional actors and uh forces like ISIS

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thing I'm not sure whether or not uh

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Hillary Clinton, a Hillary Clinton

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presidency would lead to an actual

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full-scale military intervention into

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Syria. Uh that it is easier to say that

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than it actually is to do it because my

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own view is that if had that been viable

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um and I felt it was unviable because of

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what happened in Libya and also what

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happened in Iraq and the syndromes that

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have kind of impacted American foreign

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policy since then. So, I'm not sure

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whether or not that's going to be the

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case, although they're making a lot of

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noises, especially in the election

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campaign because Democrats uh wrongly in

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my view uh appear to be seen as weak in

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foreign policy and national.

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It's ironic that, isn't it? Because

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despite the fact most of the wars,

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most of the wars were

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What about uh domestically? Uh they are

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they're both more or less the same,

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aren't they? Two sides of the same Wall

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Street coin. Both are with Wall Street.

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with Wall Street money and the donations

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of big business. Uh neither of them

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really is going to do much for the main

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street, are they?

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foreign issues because we're from abroad

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and we can see the impact and the

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legacies of those foreign issues. But in

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the US, the people hardly know what's

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outside of their state, the liberal

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United States. So the domestic is really

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live and that's where they work and uh

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their health care, their education,

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people's uh work and so on is all

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exactly locally based. But um I don't

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think I think um both may be for Wall

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for both of them unequally. If you look

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at the numbers uh Hillary Clinton as you

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said has received a very large amount of

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money and continuing to do so from Wall

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Bill's pretty much 50% of their income

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annually comes from speaker fees at

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those kinds of institutions.

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Donald Trump, as far as I've read, and

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whatever surveys they've been done, he's

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only received $19,000

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from Wall Street donations. So, he's not

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they're not voting for him.

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unpredictability.

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uh that makes everybody insecure

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especially those markets which they

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watch all the time. uh but also because

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he's an anti-globalization and it's

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anti- capitalist global or he says he is

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anti-globaliz he wants to build walls

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because he's had to spend large amounts

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of it on his own campaign he's find it

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very difficult he he gets it back from

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the state now but uh no you're right uh

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she's the big money candidate and that

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was one of the Bernie Sanders uh

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campaign platforms.

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business. Is that because though they

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all see her as the winner and they want

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to back the winning horse or because

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they think he might actually threaten

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the NAFTA, the other free trade

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agreements that the US wishes to

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conclude in Asia, in Europe uh and that

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uh he will uh as it were withdraw

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playground that they have been

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dominating for so I think it's the

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unpredictability of Donald Trump, but I

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don't think anybody can manage him. His

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own campaign seems to renew itself and

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its campaign management is renewed every

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few weeks. He sacks one person, puts

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another person in who seems to me

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to be even more right-wing and uh

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audacious than previously.

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family can't manage him, I it'd be very

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difficult for anybody else in the

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position that he would be in.

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the biggest problems. Now you you're an

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expert on American politics. So uh maybe

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you can help me with this question. Out

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of all those people with all those

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achievements to their name, this uh

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blessed country from sea to uh shining

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sea. How did we end up with a choice

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between two Godzillaas? I think the the

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reason we are here we are where we are

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today for America globally and at home

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is for because of a fix in the 1970s

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which has uh borne out full fruit in a

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way in directions which were probably

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not predictable at that time. In the

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1970s there was a threat from the third

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world sort of postcolonial leadership

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for a new international economic order

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to readjust the structure of world power

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economically, politically and

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fixes was to divide that third world if

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you like was the picking out by the

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likes of David Rockefeller and Ziggub

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Bazinski and many others was to pick out

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what they called middle class powers

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from the third world countries.

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countries which would which had a future

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in the world system as led by the United

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States and which in in which investment

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would eventually bear fruit such that

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they would have a stake in that system

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that depended on the um export of a

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large amount of industrial capital which

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was previously largely invested in the

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and the United States that

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de-industrialization

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is one of the reasons why the sort of

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people who are supporting Trump in such

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a hardcore way

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are supporting him because he is the

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GOP, the grand old party

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which has run on low taxes and small

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has delivered nothing to those Reagan

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kind of bluecollar voters and they have

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now finally come to the point where they

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are revoling against the GOP and that is

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the reason why Trump if you like he's

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the only one who speaks to them like

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them and their problems. Uh there's a

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wonderful new book called Hillbilly

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Elegy which is a by a guy who's just

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finished at Yale but who comes directly

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out of those kind of communities in the

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Appalachian Mountains and so on but he

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explains who this white ethno

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nationalist kind of Scots-Irish

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immigrant descendants are that they are

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a kind of white tribe which sees itself

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But they've seen their country from the

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1970s onwards as they see it going to

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the outsiders,

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African-Americans, immigrants, other

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minorities who've come in and taken a

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big share of the American dream which

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they've been kind of left behind with.

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So, one of the reasons why we are in

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today and that they have a particular

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experience and I think that they have a

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kind of right-wing uh racialized

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response to their what is really a kind

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of class-based problem. Um but if you

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look at the Sanders uh movement as well,

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there's quite a large part of the sort

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of uh other people sort of sort of lower

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middle- class people who are supporting

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Saunders precisely for the same kinds of

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reasons that the opportunity and the for

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a good income for a good career without

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college debt of being in hundreds of

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thousands of dollars health care

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provided which doesn't you if

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you can't find a decent job and so on

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but without the easy scapegoating

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right without the scapegoating that's

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what makes Trump a populist cuz I don't

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believe that he will deliver on anything

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for those people.

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Whereas I think somebody like Sanders

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probably could have shifted uh political

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and economic power a little bit in that

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direction because there is room for

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maneuver within the American political

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system. we've seen over the last 100

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years, you know, you've got uh the

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progressive movement uh in the in before

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the first world war, the the New Deal,

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the Great Society programs in the 1960s,

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but also you've seen the the right-wing

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responses to those as well.

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It's fascinating. Professor, thanks for

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joining us on the sport, Nick.

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Welcome.

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Coming up next, the war of the rich

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against the poor. It's the Saudi

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slaughter in Yemen. Stay with us.

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Welcome back to Sputnik. The world's

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richest dictatorship has blasted its way

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into an internal squabble in its

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neighbor Yemen. A squabble in which both

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of the contenders for power have long

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been its own clients.

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Saudi Arabia is using Western weapons

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and expertise to destroy the always

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scanned infrastructure of its

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impoverished neighbor. No school,

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hospital, bridge, mosque, highway, or

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public building is safe from the latest

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military hardware on the market.

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Virtually no media covers the subsequent

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slaughter. Even though Yemen is a former

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British colony, and the 1960s massacre

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by the Argyle and Southerntherland

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Highlanders in the crater district of

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Aiden was the last harrah of the

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official British Empire in 1967.

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But one man and his friends who hasn't

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passed the Yemenes by on the other side

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of the road is Dr. RS Karim, co-founder

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of Mona Relief Yemen, and he joins us

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now. Dr. Thanks for coming on board the

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Sputnik. Just for the viewer who almost

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certainly knows far less than they ought

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to about what's happening in Yemen,

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please tell us the current situation.

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Thank you for having me. First, welcome.

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Uh since I'm a humanitarian

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um the political views that I present

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will purely be my personal political

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views in as far as Mona Relief's

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humanitarian um work. Uh we basically

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look at uh the need and not the cause.

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So um

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tell us what the need is then.

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Oh the need is absolutely incredible

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right now. there is there is no food

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which is which is primary. Um

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about 12,000 people have died um as a

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result of direct hits. This is not

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counting

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um the thousands who are dying from

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malnutrition and uh other sicknesses and

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illnesses. Uh people who are in the

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hospital on their deathbed without any

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medicines. Um so

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normally you know the the figures that

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we get from the United Nations

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um are not the reality on the ground.

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The reality on the ground is completely

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and entirely different.

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And how is it possible that nobody

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covers and therefore nobody knows about

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what's going on there. As I say in

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Britain especially because it's actually

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formerly a British colony. there is a

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media blackout. Uh according to the

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reports that we have or I personally

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have is that um the Saudi agents have

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basically bought chunks of prime time

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airtime from TV stations and and paid

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them um copious amounts of money on the

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condition that nothing about Yemen would

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be said on television.

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Well, nothing is said. I don't know the

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reason why. Um it may be that uh access

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to the country is difficult. Indeed it

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was under siege and Monor relief broke

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that siege didn't it?

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Mon relief started on Twitter.

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Um, I was talking to a friend of mine in

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Yemen who is a journalist and he was

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trying to get or trying to solicit for

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little funds so he can feed some

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families that he knows and he was being

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successful at that but not nothing

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nothing major. And so we started talking

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about the situation in Yemen and I told

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him I said this has to go much larger

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than it is. And this was in in the

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beginning of April 2015 when the war had

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already started.

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And so um we decided that we were going

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to create a hashtag which was called 20

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for Yemen. And anybody who donated $20

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or 20 pounds they would be able to feed

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an entire family for a month.

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and a lady by by the name of Mona gave

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us our first £1,000.

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We took the,000

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and um we bought food which was which is

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very expensive in in Yemen itself

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because of the blockade.

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Uh but um we had some some good people

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who who basically were willing to work

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with us. So we bought some food

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internally and started distributing it

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in in an area called Harf Sufyan

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um which was um suffering a lot at that

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time. And we took the pictures and we

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put them on Twitter and say this is what

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we have done so far. Please would you be

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able to help us

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and in about a week Twitter had given us

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almost £5,000.

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But how did you get the relief in? I can

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tell you we got the relief in, but I

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won't be able to tell you the secret

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behind it because if I do

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have to kill

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they have No, no, they will kill me.

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I want them to kill you. They will kill

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me.

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But uh

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it is a shameful business, isn't it?

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It is. It is.

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Yemen is the poorest Arab country.

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Correct.

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It's one of the poorest countries on the

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earth.

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Correct. Its next door neighbor, Saudi

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Arabia,

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is one of the richest countries on the

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earth.

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Correct.

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And not only is Saudi Arabia not helping

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its poor nextdoor neighbor, it's

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pulverizing it with the world's most

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expensive and advanced weapons sold to

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them by us.

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That's correct.

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Now, which part of that scandal does the

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British media not understand? Have you

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been able to entice or interest anyone

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in the British media about this?

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Well, I have spoken loud and clear with

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uh with television stations like Press

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TV and and and uh um you know and as far

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as the local media concern is concerned.

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Nobody is they're disinterested. Let's

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put it that way. Even if they're

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interested, they're told that this is

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too political and it is going to go

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against us. So, let's not go. Yes.

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You know, Syria fills the airwaves and

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fills the media while Yemenitical is

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completely uh ignored. You have to smell

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a rat here. A very big large rat.

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That is correct. It's it's irrudent.

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Yeah, you're right.

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So, they're not covering obviously the

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um the the war being waged onto Yemen.

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They're not covering then the following

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um uprising that happened this weekend

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with almost a million people on the

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street on the streets. Saudi Saudi

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Arabia bombed it. They bombed. There's

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no country on the earth

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that would bomb.

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That's correct.

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A parade of a million people.

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The other side effect is that because

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the Yemenes now had to come together to

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uprise. They've left the vacuum for

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al-Qaeda to rise. Yeah. And they are

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creating many states within Yemen. So

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the problems are accumulating.

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See, Yemen, let's not forget, is very

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strategically placed. M

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extremely strategically for two reasons.

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One is that they have the Babel Mandab

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which is the choke point of getting into

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Africa into the Indian Ocean and the

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other is the Sotra Islands. The Sotra

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Islands were where if I'm not mistaken

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was was where the American base was.

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That is one island

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which from where you can actually keep

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an eye on the entire Arabian peninsula.

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It's it sits right at the bottom of

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Yemen. And from there you can gauge the

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straight of Hormuz which is controlled

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by Iran.

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You can you can gauge the Babel Mandab

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which is which Saudi Arabia wants

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desperately.

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um uh because they want to transport

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their oil from there and and also keep

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an eye on uh on the economic uh

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situation from China because that is

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where all the Chinese goods go into

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Africa from. And so the idea is to keep

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Yemen fighting and keep Somalia fighting

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because either of the two, if you have a

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solid nationalist leader who puts his

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foot down,

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then everything goes to hell in a hand

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basket.

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And so they're prepared to see al-Qaeda

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and ISIS take control

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Absolutely.

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of the coastline of finance of Aiden.

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They finance them.

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Yeah,

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they finance them. you know, for them

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some ports.

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Of course, it it has. Of course.

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So, Saudi Arabia is destroying Yemen and

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encouraging al-Qaeda and ISIS in this

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vitally strategic part of the world.

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Correct.

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Rather than see the return to power of

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someone that they used to have very good

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relations with whose life they saved,

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right?

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Uh took him airlifted him to hospital,

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saved his life. Now he's come back and

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wants his job back and suddenly it's a

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cause for Yeah.

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the destruction of thousands of people.

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Many of them of course children and

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women.

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Yeah. They are they are uh um you know

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they are basically bombing them with

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impunity.

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It's not going to work. Uh so the the

551
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Yemenes are very good fighters as the

552
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British found as many uh would be

553
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conquerors have found.

554
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Egypt would vouch for that too. of the

555
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lasser was

556
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indeed. Uh the Saudis are not very good

557
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fighters.

558
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No.

559
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Uh they've kind of uh gotten out of that

560
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habit. Uh they can't persuade anyone to

561
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come and fight this war for them. They

562
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tried to bribe Pakistan to send its army

563
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and fight the war for them.

564
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Correct.

565
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What's going to happen? What's going to

566
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be the end of all this?

567
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Well, right now, the way I see it, Saudi

568
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Arabia is trying to save face. They may

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have won the battle, but they lost the

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war.

571
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Yemen are the warriors of Arabia. They

572
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don't give up. Those people dug their

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feet in so deep because this is their

574
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country and they're not going to give up

575
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ever.

576
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Um, you know, so right now, you know,

577
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it's it's between uh um Prince Muhammad,

578
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the Saudi effectively.

579
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:43,280
Correct. This was his baby. This was his

580
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,960
do something really big.

581
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,600
This was his baby to kill a lot of

582
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babies.

583
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:51,520
Exactly. It It was do do something

584
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really big so that you can get next in

585
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line for the throne.

586
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:57,919
Well, that hasn't worked.

587
00:23:54,720 --> 00:24:00,080
Well, that didn't work because now how

588
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do you get out of Yemen? How do you do

589
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it?

590
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,559
It's easy to start wars. It's very

591
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difficult to

592
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They have no exit strategy at all.

593
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Dr. Karim, thanks for joining us and I

594
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wish uh the Mona relief every success

595
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and I hope everyone watching it does

596
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too.

597
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Thank you so much for joining us.

598
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Thank you very much.

599
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And now it's your turn to tell us what

600
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you think through the portals of social

601
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media. What's rattling guy? So on the

602
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:31,440
race between Godzilla 1 and Godzilla 2,

603
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:33,840
Khaled Ali says that the world is worse

604
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:36,159
off either way and he thinks that with

605
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:38,799
Trump it will be more so whereas

606
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Conspicuous says that Trump is the

607
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lesser of the evil.

608
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:46,880
Well, one is obviously evil and the

609
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:48,720
other is quite likely to be evil. So uh

610
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I think we have to end this lesser

611
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:53,520
evilism. That's why I'm supporting Dr.

612
00:24:51,360 --> 00:24:55,679
Jill Stein, the Green Party candidate

613
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,960
who sat right there where you're sitting

614
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now.

615
00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:03,039
Indeed. And on uh the unfortunate war in

616
00:24:59,919 --> 00:25:06,559
Yemen, Ricardo Picasso says that half of

617
00:25:03,039 --> 00:25:08,559
the arms that Saudi Arabia kept is in in

618
00:25:06,559 --> 00:25:09,039
Yemen and the rest are in ISIS hands

619
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now.

620
00:25:09,039 --> 00:25:14,000
Yeah. Well, it could be in ISIS hands in

621
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both countries, Yemen and in Syria. It

622
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:19,919
is a monumental scandal. It's bigger

623
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:21,840
than the Himalayas, this scandal, yet

624
00:25:19,919 --> 00:25:22,400
it's in plain sight, but nobody wants to

625
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,840
see it.

626
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Well, that's all the tweets that we have

627
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for this week,

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which alas means that's the end of the

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show.

630
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You can stay in touch with us through

631
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social media. On uh Twitter, it's

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633
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On Facebook, it's Sputnik on Russia

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Today. It's goodbye from me, Gayatri,

635
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:42,919
and from me, George Galloway. It's been

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marvelous.

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Heat. Heat.

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