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welcome to Sputnik orbiting the world

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with me George Galloway and me gayathri

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well they know a thing or two about

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democracy in Greece and on Sunday they

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chose the most radical left-wing

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government elected in Europe since the

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1930s and it is the 1930s in Greece is

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50% youth unemployment mass poverty a

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suicide epidemic fascist on the Mars and

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the state being dismantled on the demand

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of other states the left-wing syriza

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party together with other radical forces

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including a party called the river and

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the Greek Communists who won 32 seats

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between them now has a clear mandate and

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majority for an end to what they call

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austerity a 1930s words for making the

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working people pay for the failures of a

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system over which they had no control

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and for which they now refused to take

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responsibility the other states found it

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hard to muster much in a way of

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enthusiasm for the Greek people's

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verdict in fact hair yonkers the head of

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the EU sent the tweet congratulating the

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city's a leader on his election as

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president well he's in fact new prime

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minister joining us now to survey the

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scene from the Sputnik is dr basilis

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monastery artists from the prestigious

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london school of economics professor the

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verdict came as not much of a surprise

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though there were some surprising

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elements PASOK being reduced to five

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percent having once towered over Greek

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politics for decades the Golden Dawn the

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fascist formation over play explicitly

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fascist swastika senal becoming the

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third party in Greece but Cerises

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winning the majority though just one

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seat short of a parliamentary majority

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wasn't a surprise tinkles true of you

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would your your reading of the election

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results as a whole I think there's two

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elements in the series are

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one is of course the repeal of the

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anti-austerity rhetoric and ideas that

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have of course a huge appeal in increase

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people have been suffering for many

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years and they did not see either an end

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to this austerity program but also did

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not see the foods of austerity did not

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see there is a stabilization if you want

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of the economy it is not declining

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anymore as it has been in previous years

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but they did not see the job creation

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did not see the increases in income that

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one would associate of course with the

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end of austerity so this very much a

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public support for the change in policy

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in the direction of ending austerity and

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cities that was the most credible of the

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parties promising thought I think also

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there's another element of the

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dissatisfaction of big parts of the

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public and of the elect a traditional

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electorate of the electrodes of the

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traditional parties of the centre-left

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and satellite at this satisfaction with

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the way they implemented the policies

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the way to communicate the policies and

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the way they also engaged in

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negotiations with the with the European

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Union the eurozone partners the policies

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inglis have not been near as effective

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the austerity policies nearly as

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effective as in other places in southern

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Europe they have been painful across the

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south of the eurozone but they have been

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particularly painful increase partly

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because of the way they were half

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implemented and not directed towards

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supporting essentially supporting growth

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how serious is syriza which is a very

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new party it has a lot of leftist

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rhetoric how serious are they about

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challenging the orthodoxy of the EU on

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this matter I think overall syriza has

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is absolutely serious and committed to

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challenging the main some of the main

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premises of the EU and special of the

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eurozone of the EMU architecture how it

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is built on the idea of fiscal

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discipline of the idea of of balanced

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budgets and of course price stability of

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full employment as a priority so they're

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very much they both above committed to

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challenging that and they also have an

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alternate

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the proposal an alternative vision for a

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Europe which is more geared up for the

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peoples by Europe for the markets so to

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speak and the other new power in Greek

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politics but there's not really a new

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party so the party has a lot long

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history obviously they come out of the

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Communist Party historically but they in

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different formations this this political

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area has been active in in Greek

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politics both in Parliament and also in

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society so they have the organizational

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structure the Heather appeal to

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particular segments of society and they

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know how to take the priorities forward

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what they do not have is any experience

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vast majority of them did not have an

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experience with government so this big

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uncertainty about how they will handle

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both governing Greece the country but

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also the negotiations with the givers

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and partners all I ask because the

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markets were very calm as a result of

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their result you wouldn't have expected

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that the new finance minister quickly

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ruled out any exit from the euro the

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so-called grexit which really would have

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set the dominoes tumbling across

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southern Europe and the decision to form

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their formal coalition with the

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so-called independent Greeks which did

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not require any problematic negotiation

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of any kind really just the placing of

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various personnel in ministries rather

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than a negotiation with the river or

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with the KKE the Communist Party which

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would have required a programmatic

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dialogue and line by line agreement yes

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and it seems paradoxical but it was

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actually easier to form a coalition with

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independent cakes given the

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circumstances both parties have a

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nuptial priority on anti-austerity and

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against the memorandum that Greece's the

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great governments have signs there with

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the troika and politically they come

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from very different traditions obviously

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our populace right-wing party and with

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very regressive you take views on

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migration on national security on social

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rights you know gay marriages and so

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forth so it is very paradoxical in that

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sense that syriza found them as the

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coalition partner but for all practical

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purposes what really matters for gays in

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the next few months at least is a common

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stance on the issue of austerity and the

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bailout agreement and that they are

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indeed in full agreement they would have

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much more and much more difficult task

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in baking an agreement either with the

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communist party who are adamant on on

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the proposition that we should exit the

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European Union and this was something

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that syriza didn't want to negotiate or

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two to entertain as a thought for the

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policy proposal all for the river the

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a party newly formed party and for them

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a maintaining the country in inside the

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eurozone and committing to a an agenda

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of structural reforms was an absolute

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red line so they would say this I would

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then have to negotiate very very

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difficult negotiation with the river

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dupatta me on what kind of structural

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reforms in which would which ones would

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go in the direction of liberalizing

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markets which would go in a direction of

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perhaps increasing efficiency in the

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economy but not making they call me more

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open to markets so it came very

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naturally that the coalition was formed

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between the independent greeks and

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syriza and i do not expect to have any

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sort of frictions of disagreements

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between them until the issue of the of

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austerity and the bailout agreement is

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resolved one way or another hmm let me

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ask you about the Golden Dawn this

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Europe's most successful explicitly

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fascist formation how did they do how

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did they outdo expectation a more role

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are they likely to play in this new

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will play not all in the parliamentary

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scene no party wants to have any kind of

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relation with them at least our presence

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there has been room also some evidence

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that the new democracy the previous

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government party had links or some

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members of it had some links with the

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gold Golden Dawn members at the moment

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nobody is associating with them in any

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way in in any case the leadership of the

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party is still in custody awaiting trial

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the part is not illegal organization

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behind the party has been deemed as a

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criminal organization and there's a

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trial partly for that it must be said

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that the lecture successful Golden Dawn

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is not an accident no matter how much

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work would like to think that it is an

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accident there is support for the views

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of corded or not maybe not the most

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extreme of them but there is definitely

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an anti-migrant sentiment so this goes a

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long way to explain why Citizen both

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patriotic and wearing Germans wash the

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car type insignias on their arm it's not

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the only God's mmm yes absolutely well I

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mean cities are having one of the

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election spectacularly do you think this

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will influence or perhaps empower other

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left-wing radical if you will far left

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parties in the rest of Europe I think

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absolutely guessing you can see how

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prevent mostly acted and engaged in

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syriza in Spain yes and how they reacted

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to the to the city's victory I think we

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also see signals to that effect even

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from Italy and France where we don't

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have a radical left but we have a

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socialist center left the government's

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in both countries and they were much

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more positive in the in relation to the

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cities of victory than other governments

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not the only social democrat who who

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didn't work him up with a Ed Miliband

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but for his sake that the new Greek

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government didn't read his response i

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want to go a minute or so a minute and a

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half let me ask you one thing about

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pasok i was once a great admirer or

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papandrea the father mainly for his

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foreign policy stands the Palestinians

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on Sean his son then became the prime

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minister they were a family of some note

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paso cuz now it would appear plunged

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into oblivion will they ever come back

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it has it seems extremely unlikely I

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wouldn't think they will be able to come

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back they got four point seven percent

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of the of the vote and they facing big

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challenge ahead in terms of feather

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split perhaps there is a party

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but I think they have more things that

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divide them done things that unite them

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there is a part of a shock of course

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that will be perhaps a backbone of a

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future formation in the center left but

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called pisaq professor as a tour the

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horizont that was a tour de force thank

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you very much indeed thank you coming on

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the sputnik coming up after the break a

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well-known and controversial former

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Churchill don't miss it

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Churchill were taken by barge from the

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British Parliament down the Thames with

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every grain along the river bowing in

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respect as he passed by mr. Churchill

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was the only commoner of the 20th

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century allowed to lie in state in the

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palace of westminster upon his demise he

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had been a member of the House of

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Commons for 64 years the right Honorable

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Andrew Mitchell MP like Churchill is a

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Tory though like him a surprisingly

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undocked ranier one he's a former

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cabinet minister with responsibility for

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International Development and he joins

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us now but before he speaks gayatri red

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gloves and all asked the London public

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what they thought of Winston Churchill

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he was a great talker and a very

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powerful leader and did a lot for our

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country in retrospect whether people

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like it or not he still helped this

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country in a massive way yeah I think he

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was a great british man um he was a good

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leader of his time misunderstood i think

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it is you and then he came good when he

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needed to whereas amazing render these

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amazing things um and he was very brave

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made a brave decisions um unimportant

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I'm believe you've won the war for

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Brennan well he was the leader at the

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time for world war two day did a good

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job Andrew Mitchell unanimous there and

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that doesn't surprise me but what does

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surprise me is the deluge of negativity

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we got about Churchill on the

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twittersphere which is goes to show how

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out of touch some people can be some

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people especially on the left because

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the truth is if not for Winston

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Churchill if he had not become Prime

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Minister in 1940 you and I would have

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been conducting this interview and

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German if indeed we were alive to

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conduct it isn't that the case yes I

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mean he had a curiously up-and-down

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career I've just been reading Boris

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Johnson's appreciation to group of

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Winston Churchill on the 50th

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anniversary and it's interesting the

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extent to which she got some of the

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things wrong that he did but he was the

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right man

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in the right place at the right time in

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1939-40 he'd been warning about what was

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going to happen with extraordinary

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perceptiveness and come 1940 came the

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right man at an incredibly difficult

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time as a result of which we're not

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speaking German as he is that and in the

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Boris Johnson book which is quite a fine

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piece of work even though it's Boris

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channeling Churchill threw himself as a

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as a potential leader of the

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Conservative Party it is salutary to

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remind ourselves as the book does as

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some other books carefully omit the

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strength of the surrender party at the

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time in the British establishment and

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when mr. Churchill said that not until

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the last of us is lying on the cabinet

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floor choking in our own blood will we

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surrender he meant it and the

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establishment a piece part a new that he

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meant it there were a lot of fifth

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columnist surround at that time well

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there was a powerful group it comes out

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rather well actually in the Boris

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account in the early days when he had

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just become Prime Minister a very

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powerful group who were very worried

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that Britain simply was not going to be

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able to win and the power of the

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arguments of the appeases was very clear

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that I think Churchill's genius was to

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see that there was no deal that was

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possible and that this was going to be a

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fight to the death and it was that

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clarity of vision and planning and some

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quite skillful political maneuvering in

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the cabinet at the time which got him

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out of scare into second gear thank

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goodness the left criticism of him

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focuses on partially a misreading of

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some important episodes in his life but

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he was not a doctrinaire Tory you could

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make a

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argument I could that he wasn't really a

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Tory at all and indeed he ratted and

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rerouted for years as a conservative

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party crossing the floor to the then

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liberals crossing back to the

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Conservatives but actually with some

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quite solid progressive reforms to his

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to his credit yes I mean he was he had a

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very strong social conscience the social

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reforms which you refer are hugely to

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his credit and as for his positioning in

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the Tory party given that he had had

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been a liberal it's quite difficult to

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pin down but often Tory positioning is

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quite difficult to pin down um but but

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he did make mistakes he was wrong about

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the abdication he was wrong about India

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the Dardanelles campaign but his

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extraordinary bravery and the accounts

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of when he was wounded and when he was

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hurt and so forth his extraordinary

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bravery his his real strong patriotism

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and his clarity of vision at certain key

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moments in his career and in our

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national life that's why I suspect in

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your film you got a cross-section a

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hundred percent more or less in in favor

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of saluting him as a great if not the

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greatest Englishman and why I think you

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know he goes down in our in our national

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pantheon in such a very high in elevated

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case at the critical moments his clarity

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saved our country he was a wordsmith

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extraordinaire I mean he wrote millions

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upon millions of words received the

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nobel prize for literature but one of

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the best things he ever wrote and this

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something up your street and mine with

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our mutual interest in in Africa and in

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the Sudan he fought at the omnimon was

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disgusted by the mass slaughter wrought

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by the Gatling gun but even more

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disgusted by the conduct of those who

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dug up the

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Maddie from the tomb cut off the head

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and played football with the skull

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chacho exposed this crime to the British

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public in the pall mall gazette he was

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quite breathtakingly audacious ER with

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the pen as well as with the sword yes

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which of course in politics is a hugely

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valuable ability to do that I've just

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been reading the biography of Roy

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Jenkins there's a up for a prize this

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week and he had the same when remarkable

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ability to write extremely well and as

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well as to get across his political

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views through the speeches he made when

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I retired Roy Jenkins from the house of

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your hands and for which he thanked me

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he much preferred the red carpets of the

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House of Lords speaking of our red

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carpets and Winston Churchill was always

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in the House of Commons why does he

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never become a lord I think you know

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there's no former Prime Minister's I

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think knowingly in the House of Lords

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and you know he stayed to a very great

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age external I mean he stayed in the

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commons for as long as he possibly could

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I think that when he left the commons

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that was hymns leaving from from

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westminster's clearly the right decision

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I was just going to make the point about

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Roy Jenkins Jenkins begun his tremendous

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biography of Churchill not really buying

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much of the Churchill myth but by the

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end having had to carefully examine all

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the papers and all the arguments he

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wrote at the end of that biography that

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he considered Churchill the most amazing

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human being ever to occupy yes any

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officer Prime yes I think I think most

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people who have written about it comes

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crossing Boris's book as well come away

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from a close examination of the original

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sources with their already elevated

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respect even further enhanced and you

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know that's a that's encouraging because

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a lot of these biographies paint Winston

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Churchill warts and all but

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that is the invariable conclusion which

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their biographers reach speaking of

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painting of warts and all it said that

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that lady churchill burned grim

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Sutherlands portrait of him because

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although he very generously received it

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he apparently hated it I rather like it

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what do you think I remember

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understanding why Lady churchill didn't

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like it but whether that was because she

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didn't like it as an appreciation of art

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or didn't like it because her husband

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didn't appreciate it history doesn't

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tell we mustn't burn portraits warts and

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all what lesson or what can we draw from

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Churchill's life now as we look back on

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it fifty years on after his demise

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clearly Boris sees something of

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Churchill in himself American by

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extension very maverick political stance

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posing with the ak-47s in Kurdistan just

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last week is George is Boris Johnson

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potentially another charger well I

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character history doesn't repeat itself

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in the same way thank goodness and Boris

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after all was asked to write this rather

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good and splendid biography appreciation

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after 50 years he was asked to do it I

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think he set to that task were the same

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vim and vigor which he sets to

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everything and did a very good job I'll

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take that as a yes I'll take that as

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Boris Johnson appreciation ok we're

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looking back Winston Churchill 50 years

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on in a nutshell was he the greatest of

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them all well as Prime Minister there

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are other prime ministers in the last

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150 years who you could say were great

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and who had extraordinary

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characteristics and extraordinary

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virtues but given the time when Winston

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Churchill was Prime Minister and the

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challenge that our country faced I think

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that without

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he was the greatest occupant ever of

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number 10 Andrew Mitchell great to see

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you again thanks very much for coming on

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the sputnik I now it's your turn to tell

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us what you think through the portals of

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social media what's rattling gayatri

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okay Cowen's on the grease result

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includes max weight saying they had no

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money before and now they have none but

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they do have self-determination freedom

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respect and solidarity that's a lot more

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than they had before well done nine riaz

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kazi instead says it will be the same as

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Obama's election slogan yes we can his

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Nobel Peace Prize and we all know the

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rest of history bit of death that's just

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a little bit of the Barack Obama about

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the syriza leader but I don't want to be

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too intent on Churchill we received a

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lot of hostility and filthy common look

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hate me LOL you Jim hate me well then AB

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Kamal says Churchill was the bush of his

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time racist aristocrat Alison done

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something of saying all powerful leaders

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have unpalatable flaws Churchill will be

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chiefly remembered however for being a

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lone voice denouncing the Nazis in the

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early 30s and insisting on war when

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appetite for war so soon after the first

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was so low he rallied Europe against a

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significant evil whether he was a fat

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drunk or not hardly methicillin lose fat

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he drank and he smoked a chain smoke to

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Havana cigars and he lived till he was

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90 and that's all that we've got time

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for this week which alas means that's

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the end of the show you can stay in

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guy Anthony I'm from me George Galloway

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