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welcome to Sputnik orbiting the world

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with me George Galloway and me gatri if

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our forthcoming film the killings of

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Tony Blair is as good as The Sensational

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new book Blair Inc The Man Behind the

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Mask I'll be happy the book tours the

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horizont of Britain's most controversial

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prime minister who took over the labor

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party which he then renamed new labor

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before launching invasions in

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occupations and the main topic of the

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book The Everest of money still piling

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up as we speak some say that there's no

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regime with dungeons so dark or Gallow

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so Grim that Tony Blair and his cery of

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family and friends won't work for them

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as long as the Price Is Right Francis

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Becket is a labor man but he co-authored

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Blair Inc and is one of the country's

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leading Blair lists he joins us now

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Francis uh I don't know I've lost count

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of how many of your books I've got on my

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shelves you are indeed prolific is this

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is 17th 18th 18th your 18th book and

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surely your finest it is a brilliant

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lavish uh production thank you uh and I

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congratulate you on it but my first

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question is about the timing you're a

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labor man so am I essentially uh we both

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want labor to win the forthcoming

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general election why bring out a boot

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now that is potentially surely damaging

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to labor well if we both want want labor

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to win the next general election then I

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think that places us in a different

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category from Tony Blair I don't think

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Tony Blair wants that at all the whole

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every statement every everything that he

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has done in the past six months or so

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seems designed in a subtle and Insidious

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way to undermine the Ed miliband

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leadership now I personally we we may

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differ on this I personally I'm a great

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admirer of Ed miliband I think he's a

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climat figure what Blair seems to What

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could seems to concern Blair is that

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anybody else other than him or another

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convinced blairite another Blair acolyte

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can possibly lead a labor to Victory so

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he makes all sorts of statements that

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quite intentionally are designed to

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undermine Ed miliband to say that the

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public have a a problem with Ed miliband

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and he uses his tame campaign group

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within the labor party which is called

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progress to try to fill the next par

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parament with as many tame blairite MPS

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as he can manage if Ed miliband wins the

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next general election it will be overt

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turny Blair's dead body uh which Segways

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neatly into the money because one of the

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most controversial things one of the

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most undermining things in my view that

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Blair has done in the last few months is

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105,000 which many would think uh was

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blood money in one way or another and

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he's given it to a hapless 105 Labor

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candidates who must now in their

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campaigns defend the fact that they're

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using Tony Blair's money to fight their

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campaign election I'm not sure I

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think that the I think that the amount

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of money that each one of them has had

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,000 uh certainly may not necessarily

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have liked the way Tony Blair earns it

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from uh all sorts of dictators all over

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all over the world but um there are

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sorts of far less Pleasant sources of

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money as you know but not everyone

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watching this will know the quotation I

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used of uh of gallows grim and dungeons

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dark come straight from the labor Anthem

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uh the red flag uh it is true isn't it

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that there appear to be no limits to the

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venality of any tyranny that Tony Blair

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and family and friends will work for I'm

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afraid that is true yes there is no the

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the uh the the dictator of Kazakhstan

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naab bayf uh is an extraordinarily good

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example the uh he he was reelected

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unopposed last time with I think it was

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92.5% of the vote but it is amazing to

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see a labor prime minister and his

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right-and man the spin doctor Alistair

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Campbell their empire stretches far and

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wide they're working for the kuwaitis

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they're working for uh the UAE for for a

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Saudi oil company and so on all the

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while Mr Blair continued to hold down

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for seven long years almost eight the

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position of Middle East peace Envoy

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nobody see a conflict of interest in all

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that well of course if it had been a

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proper government appointment it would

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have been illegal for him to do all of

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parliament for example then the the

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rules the Nolan rules quite properly

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would have prevented him would have said

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can't do it he was only able to do it

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because of the kind of informality with

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which he was appointed as Middle East

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as Middle East peace Envoy was to go and

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visit the Amir of Kuwait uh now he's got

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a very well staffed office the as

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middleast peace Envoy the envoy office

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staff from that office instead he took

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whether anything came out and who was

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now whether anything came out of that by

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way of Middle East peace we really have

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no idea we have no way of finding out

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what we do know is that there was a 27

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million pound consultancy contract with

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the Emir of kuwa and the perception

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persists that that job as Middle East

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predecessor in the job James Wolfson had

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Bank had worked very very hard on Middle

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East peace work enormously hard so hard

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he made himself he made himself ill he

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earned the respect of the Palestinians I

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Palestinian negotiator that she had an

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enormous admiration for what James

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wolson had had tried to do that Tony

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week a month in the region on on the job

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get is that was about two and a half

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days a month on that

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job I don't think anybody would ever

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have blamed Tony Blair for failing to

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bring about peace in the Middle East an

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awful lot of people have tried and it's

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uh a pretty intractable sort of problem

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but I think what they're going to blame

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him for and should blame him for is that

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he doesn't appear even to have tried

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he's sat on the job which somebody else

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not only unforgivable but extraordinary

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contribution towards peace in the Middle

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East seems to me to to to fulfill the

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ambition of the most ambitious

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politician I can't imagine any any

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it's been seven years seven lean years

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to get all biblical uh seven lean years

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for the Palestinians seven fat years

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though for uh for the Blair and uh for

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Blair Inc will self in our film uh uses

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work but I am astounded at at how how

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desperately he seems to how much he's

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extraordinary video that he contributed

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to that was telling the world what a

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fine chap nazab F was I'm going to cut

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the extraordinary uh friendship between

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Blair and Wendy Bing Wendy ding were at

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this is doing Blair enormous damage in

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what and and and there's a wrenching

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iron in all this because you all

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wrong to think that Rupert Murdock's an

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enemy we've got to make a friend of him

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we've got to embrace him he went all

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over the world to to pay court Godfather

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to one of their children and yet now

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quite suddenly all that has fallen apart

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decent showing in the press the murdocks

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that if if the Press Bar if I suppose if

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win as HRI Kissinger almost said it's a

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fantastic book Blair Inc The Man Behind

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Sputnik coming up after the break in the

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murder welcome back to Sputnik 50 years

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ago in the Yorn Ballroom in New York the

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greatest black leader in America was

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gunned down in the most mysterious

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circumstance ances his murder came less

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than 2 years after the assassination of

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President John F Kennedy and 3 years

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before that of Dr Martin Luther King

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which in turn was followed two months

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assassination of presidential hopeful

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Robert F Kennedy four dead leaders in

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five years must have been a turbulent

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time our next guest has organized a

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Anniversary he's so Chandon and he joins

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us now can thanks for coming on board

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the Sputnik tell us about the festival

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and how people can get involved in it

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well the first annual Malcolm X Film

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struggle against colonialism and

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neocolonialism and white supremacy Etc

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so we wanted to put together a series of

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events and that's what we are delivering

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now uh it's seven Film Festival events

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in six cities across this island also

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one and the first of which which was in

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West Belfast and that was not out of

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coincidence that was out of design to

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salute the Irish Freedom struggle in

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their contribution in fighting one of

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the greatest bloodiest genocidal

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entities known to humanity which is the

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British state which is an International

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System of colonialism and

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neocolonialism it was a very successful

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event in West Belfast at which Bernadet

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meski the Irish revolutionary at the

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Battle of the bogside spoke at and Jerry

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mcklin a former Irish Republican Army

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prisoner of war and shenan member spoke

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at as well and they as I said in my

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report from that event translated

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Malcolm X for our Irish audience so we

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we continue now we've had it in West

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Belfast Oxford and Birmingham and we

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continue this weekend in Brighton and

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then on to Bristol and two events in

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London and people can find out about

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this if they search on Facebook the

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first annual Malcolm X Film Festival who

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killed Malcolm

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X the well when I understand situations

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like this I I think there's two things

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that you have to consider one which

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which groups are the most powerful

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involved in this and who does it benefit

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the most these are the two questions I

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think that are fundamental to unlocking

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the key to these

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Mysteries and it was I think it was

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because Malcolm X much like Dr King

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actually but much more profoundly and

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concretely Malcolm X was the bridge

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between the Black Liberation struggle in

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the United States and as Malcolm's

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daughter said elasa shabar at the Oxford

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Film Festival malx came from a very

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political family whose family was

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involved in the garite uh Black

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Liberation movement

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and so the Black Liberation movement is

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connected to the global South but what

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Malcolm did which was very alarming for

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the powers that be in the United States

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he was directly linking that struggle

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and actually saying no we actually under

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the leadership of the actual existing

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struggle and he was inspired by the

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bandong non- Align movement strategy and

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Mar his 60th anniversary this year yes

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the Indonesian government is is is

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marking that anniversary I'm happy to

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hear as well so Malcolm was saying no

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actually it's the African Liberation

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movements who are showing us how we can

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win our freedom through their

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ideological Frameworks and their

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practical Frameworks he was asked do you

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think organization like the Mau should

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be formed the United States and he said

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yes I do actually so that was very

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alarming because it was the same time

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the alarms

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me may do as well but it was the same

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time that Malcolm said that

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dollarisation ization of African states

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which he did at the time advocating

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Justice and support for the global South

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African Liberation movement for uh the

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the justice for black people but the

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proximate uh cause are practitioners of

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his murder were uh people who were

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ostensibly moved by schismatic reasons

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within the Nation of Islam uh do people

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still believe that story or were these

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merely um PSIs for the power in the

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United States well exactly I think even

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the shabal family will say very clearly

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that the the the people who had the main

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dominant hand in the assassination of

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Malcolm X was the FBI CIA and the police

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department Etc um so but yes there were

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PES involved and yes there was a

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internal Division and and a schismatic

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division as you put it which

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unfortunately turned quite sour

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extremely sour and so yeah different

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parties are involved but at the end of

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the day I think even farak Khan has had

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a reproach M with the Shabah family when

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the FBI was trying to operate a sting on

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uh kah shabaz herself in in in falsely

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uh constructing a plot involving her in

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assassinating Louie farakhan the leader

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of the Nation of Islam so there's

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complex factors that work how great

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could Malcolm X have uh become because

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his development was quite spectacular

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over quite a short period of time uh his

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ideological political development but he

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had the the Charisma the leadership

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qualities uh he really could have been a

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contender uh in this most turbulent of

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times the Vietnam uh struggle which he

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was very clear about uh unlike uh others

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in the Democratic party who were indeed

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the they were doing the bombing I mean

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could he have been an Obama could he if

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that's not an insult could he have

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actually burst into elected politics for

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example well it's interesting you

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mention Obama because in the Malcolm X

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Movement Magazine we produced some

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articles critiquing Manning Manning

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Marble's book on Malcolm X off late

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which he basically says that Malcolm was

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orienting himself to a kind of Obama

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likee politics but I don't think that

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really stands true because malol if

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anything he was entrenching himself more

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profoundly and deeper with actually The

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Liberation movements across the Planet

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which Obama has nothing to do actually

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Obama has been facilitating what's a

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veritable recolonization of Africa which

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was most uh traumatically expressed

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through the bombing of Libya in 2011 so

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I think Malcolm X and his martyrdom in a

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way really just universalized them even

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more more greater but I think Malcolm X

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and and very much so Ben Bella in

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Algeria uh in Kuma in in in Ghana were

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saying to Malcolm we know your life is

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under threat please come work with us

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for African Liberation and So-Cal third

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world Liberation Malcolm was committed

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to his project within the United States

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but although he spent most of the time

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in the Middle East and Africa in the

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last two years of his life so he was

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very much committed to that and facing

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whatever he needed to face and if that

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meant death he faced it and Standing

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Tall and proud and I think that's what's

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so inspiration inspirational and that's

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why we're holding this film festival

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with an incredible amount of speakers

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and supporting organizations including

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the PF LP including the Black Panther

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alumni including the Libyan resistance

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um and and and and and others that we're

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trying to develop a conversation and

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network building amongst the Grassroots

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in linking the Contin in relinking I

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should say ourselves the current

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generation to those who have come before

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in the black and Asian radical tradition

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let's talk about the current generation

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because something's clearly gone wrong

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uh in my introduction I I made the point

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that uh the United States with in 5

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years lost not one but two outstanding

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black political figures who were as you

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indicated in any case converging in

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their political line but the United

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States has no such black leaders today

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the the black Congress caucus

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is supporting Israel is uh endorsing uh

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the bombing of country after country and

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so on Obama's been such a g gigantic uh

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disappointment and I don't want I don't

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want to start on Britain I mean in the

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60s and the 70s from amongst the black

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uh population real radical action

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activity and Leadership was present

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what's happened today well the daughters

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and sons of Malcolm in the 60s and

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particularly the Black Panther Party who

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are supporting the film festival uh

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raised in a qualitative and quantitative

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level the anti-racist struggle in the

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United States and inspired the rest of

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the planet in so doing but you're

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absolutely right we are still living

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through a period of defeat actually

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which in Britain probably started in the

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early 80s um so yes I mean you're

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absolutely absolutely right but I think

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again the Obama phenomenon is quite

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important in this regard because the

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neocolonial system in trying to elongate

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its attempts at hegemony across the

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planet it's trying to blackface it's

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adopting black and as faces to its

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system to try and make its system more

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amable and acceptable to the people of

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the global South so that's a great

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challenge that we have and as elasa

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shabbar said in her uh opinion piece in

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the Washington Post recently that often

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we somehow the whole um hands up don't

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shoot slogan is a defeatist one it's one

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that Revels in oppression whereas we're

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in the politics of Liberation so again

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it's to reconnect to that black radical

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tradition within the west and to

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reconnect to the existing Global South

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struggle today uh how do you connect

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that with the Ferguson uh developments

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which Obama has I mean the the black

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people are being gunned down almost

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daily in the United States and the black

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president of the United States is

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backing the police exactly quite but but

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but also I mean that that's true but

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when we say black lives matter black

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lives should matter on a global scale

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not just in the United States and not

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just in Britain but I think often one of

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the problematics of uh the the Ferguson

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protest and it's been great relatively

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and historically it has seen upsurge of

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Youth taking to the streets against

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police brutality and against the system

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in general but one thing I don't think

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we've broken out of is that neocolonial

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shell which Malcolm totally shattered

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completely shattered and he said our

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Liberation is predicated on the

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liberation of the third world of Africa

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and Asia and that's what we're trying to

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reconstitute again and that's why we're

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having Dr mus ibraim Lea khed ASA shabaz

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Jerry MC cockling Bernadet meski and all

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these other revolutionaries and zanu PF

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as well in Zimbabwe engaging directly to

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young people at the film festival to

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rebuild that Unity that we lost well the

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best of luck with it thanks sukant

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chandan for

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[Music]

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that and that's all that you've got time

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for this week in fact for a few weeks

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because we're off for the general

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election when are we back that's right

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we'll be back Saturday 16 may but you

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can still stay in touch with us on

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Twitter rtor Sputnik and on Facebook you

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can like us on Sputnik on Russia today

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it's goodbye from me gri and from me

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George Galloway it's been marvelous