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welcome to Sputnik orbiting the world

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with me George Galloway and me gri two

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stories dominate the news Isis and

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Greece and we're going to talk about

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both on the eve of tomorrow's referendum

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in Greece and apparently on the eve of

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an imminent decision by the British

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Parliament to begin bombing yet another

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Arab Muslim country hey what could go

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wrong Isis control half of Syria

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and much of Iraq their Fighters are

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murdering sunbathers on the

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Mediterranean beaches worshippers in

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Kuwaiti mosques and who knows who what

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and where next if anyone on this planet

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does know it's Britain's foreign

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correspondent of the year and any year

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if you ask me the independent newspapers

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Patrick Coburn Patrick thanks for

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joining us on the Sputnik we showcased

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your book the best by far on the Isis

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phenomenon the R of Islamic State the

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last time you were here uh the problem

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is it's continued to rise and Rise how

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do you summarize now in what few months

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since you were last here what's the

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current state of play with

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Isis well it's pretty bad in the sense

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for Humanity because uh Isis is still

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expanding I mean it's a year since they

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declared that caliphate on the 29th of

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June last year uh since then there have

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been lots of uh stories about how it's

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uh suffering heavy casualties from

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bombing how it's on the retreat how it's

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imploding or there's a stale mate but in

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may we saw that's not true they defeated

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the Iraqi Army at ramadi and they

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defeated the Syrian Army at Palmira so

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it's still expanding still expanding

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even in the Levant but of course

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expanding now across the world more to

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that but you made the point in the

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independent that talk of the liberation

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of mosul for example uh the Iraq's Arab

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Iraq's Second City uh to was fanciful

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that far from retaking moso the

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likelihood was that Isis would retake

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areas and cities like gradi that had

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been so-called liberated it isn't the

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problem that the people in these areas

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don't much feel that it is a Liberation

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for the government in Bagdad to kick out

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the Isis perhaps they think each is as

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bad as the other or worse I mean I know

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people in mosul talk to people from

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ramadi and people will say how bad the

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Islamic state is how terrified they are

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of them and then at a certain point the

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conversation will switch and they'll

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start saying well what would happen if

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the Iraqi Army comes in or the Shia

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militia comes in it'll be even worse

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it'll be worse with their frightened of

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being uh being murdered uh they know if

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you're a Sunni there that you'll be

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suspected of being an Isis supporter

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whatever your views um and they also

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know that um Isis is more efficient than

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the Iraqi government in ramadi since

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they took over uh I was touch with

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somebody there um who doesn't much like

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them but said the local hospital has

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reopened because they brought in doctors

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from Syria there's more electricity but

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they brought in big generators from raqa

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their Syrian capital and from fua so

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these guys I mean monsters though they

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are are also pretty efficient they know

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how to make the the trains run on time

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there are natural barriers in a way to

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any further Advance by ISIS in Iraq

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at least I hope so uh the Kurdish area

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would appear more or less impregnable to

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them and the Shia Muslim mass in Baghdad

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and bazra and areas of the south of Iraq

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ditto um but in Syria that's not

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true my belief is and again of course

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it's the opposite of what I wish to

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happen that it is possible that Isis and

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other gangs

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could be in control of Damascus and thus

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of a country with a Mediterranean

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shoreline what could go wrong as I joked

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earlier is it your belief that the

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Syrian state is on the back fruit and

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capitulate I think we're not quite there

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yet um it still has support it also has

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uh just like we were saying there are a

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lot of Sunni in Iraq who don't much like

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Isis uh but are terrified of the

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alternative which is the Iraqi

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government there are quite a lot of

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people in Damascus who don't

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particularly like the Assad government

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but they're truly terrified of the

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alternative in Islamic State because

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they think they'll have their heads cut

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off uh they think that uh uh they might

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may be imprisoned or they'll certainly

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lose their job so a lot of people who

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are squeezed into the same Cor Corner as

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the government who don't necessarily

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support it but that's quite a chunk of

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the Syrian population so I don't think

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it'll go down just like that you have a

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sort of very violent stalemate with

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neither side capable of overcoming the

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other uh and there's not much reason

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that this should change I suppose there

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could be a sudden collapse on the

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government side or they might lose a

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city uh big city or something like that

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but I think that it's sort of unlikely

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that there'll be a dramatic change in

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the military situation is it possible

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that a de facto state has already been

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created in uh the west of Iraq and in

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the north and east of Syria and that we

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have to come to terms with that perhaps

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recognizing well I'd like to divide it

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into two I mean there's no doubt a state

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has been established there it has a

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state with a army which is more powerful

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than most members of the UN if you talk

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to I've been talking to people who've

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come from within the self-declared Cal

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caliphate and uh they collect taxes uh

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there rather efficiently uh they

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conscript soldiers they decide the

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school uh uh what should be taught at

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schools they can defend the so to speak

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the frontiers of the caliphate so you

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know if this isn't a state what is now

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should we recognize it or anything like

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that well these guys aren't in the

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business of recognizing anybody else

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because they want to spread the califate

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to all the Muslim world and then all the

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world uh so that doesn't is not on the

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agenda and also I think it it's a

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mistake about the nature of this

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movement you know it's like an Islamic

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camar Rouge it's a cult and it also has

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a a combination a very dangerous

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combination of fanaticism religious

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fanaticism in this case and Military

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expertise drawn on years of fighting the

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Americans and the Iraqi Army but the

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spreading of the caliphate's already

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happening isn't it the uh the boo Haram

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in Nigeria have declared Borno to be a

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part of it Isis Affiliates in Libya uh

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including in s the former home of

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Gaddafi have declared themselves to be a

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part of it and in Tunisia Isis claims

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that the mass mder of tourist on the

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beaches was carried out by one of their

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men yes I mean the the the Islamic state

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is a sort of magnet for groups some of

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them you know are probably in contact

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with Islamic State others are simply

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imitating their tactics they have a very

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lethal cocktail of tactics of uh

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atrocities committed in very public

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places to have Maximum Impact uh and

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this is pretty effective uh so you know

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there are seven wars going on now in

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libia Northeast

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Nigeria um and to my mind Isis is it's

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the child of war and it uh benefits from

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war because this is what it's good at uh

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and so long as we have these wars going

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on the people who benefit will will be

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those uh who are the most extreme like

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Islamic State and it will continue to

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grow we discuss Isis the phenomenon of

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Isis quite regularly on the show but we

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rarely get someone from the field like

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yourself you've just come from Iraq and

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you've been in Syria as well during the

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r of Islamic State how is it like for

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people living there including yourself

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you know reporting from there what's the

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impact on the daily lives of the women

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the children what's do they go to school

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to the markets as usual are

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they stay do they stay indoors and well

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yeah Isis likes to monopolize par uh

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politically but also over the lives of

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everybody living under its rule so quite

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early on it was determining what the

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curriculum would be in schools so art

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and history were out

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uh geography could be taught but not

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National out not National boundaries

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um Pagan poetry poetry was allowed but

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not Pagan poetry which you probably

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means most poetry anyway this is one

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example every aspect of life is

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controlled by them if a woman goes out

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unaccompanied by a male relative then

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Isis Fighters or officials will take her

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back to the house ask for the husband

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uh to come out and we'll give him 80

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shops uh and um my newspaper was talking

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to one Barber yeah uh from there who uh

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he gave his cousin on his cousin's

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wedding day a rather Western hair

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haircut in return for which somebody

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informed on him they uh gave him 80

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lashes he fainted after 50 lashes and

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had to be taken to a hospital and they

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closed his barber shop so every aspect

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of life is controlled by them uh people

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don't like it but there's not much they

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can do about it they they'll end up

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crucified or beheaded or uh all these uh

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hideous ways that they have reinvented I

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should say uh to murder people

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Patrick cin I wish we could talk all day

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thanks very much for joining us on the

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Sputnik read his book if you haven't

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already the rise of Islamic State coming

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up after this break who knew that Greece

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could be the Achilles heal of the entire

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European project well most people

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actually and we'll be discussing why

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next welcome back to what is rapidly

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becoming a classic addition of Sputnik

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barely 3 years after winning the Nobel

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Peace Prize the European Union appears

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to be at War again this time in

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full-blown economic conflict with one of

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its own founding members Greece which

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presently endures in effect an economic

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embargo preventing its banks from

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opening the origins of the conflict

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itself the Euro or more particularly the

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Practical compulsion on most members

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States to join it was fatally flawed as

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a project subsuming widely disperate

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Bank and a single set of neoliberal free

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market

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dogmas Greece with the help of Goldman

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Sachs falsified its financial position

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in order to gain entry to the European

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monetary Union and the rest is history

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as might be the European Union at this

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rate to discuss the grexit or not Alex

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andreo actor and guardian writer joins

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us now Alex thanks for uh coming on

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board the Sputnik tomorrow is the big

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day the referendum first of all what's

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your take on how that referendum is

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going to go and if you like your opinion

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on how it should go it's extremely

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unpredictable um there there seems to be

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quite a a high percentage where the no

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is leading which is basically saying no

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to the agreement that was offered but uh

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you have to understand that with every

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passing day Capital controls um you know

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people queuing up to get 60 EUR out um

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the country is paralyzed more and more

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and that Terror that fear will play a

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part in the yes and NOS um as well as

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the fact that the the private media in

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grease is

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incredibly biased against the government

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because they're um you know they're

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owned by very rich people who actually

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owe money in license fees and Taxation

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and this government is going after them

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so they have a very clear agenda against

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Sy um and so there is Relentless

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propaganda and an economic asphixiation

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going on so my very very tentative

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prediction is that we will end up with a

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very narrow um Victory I don't know for

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which side but I think it will narrow

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down which is a disaster for either side

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actually what you want is a

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decisive uh vote for either yes or no

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what you don't want is a close result

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because that simply divides the country

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in two Relentless propaganda internally

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no doubt from the private sector media

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and quite a bit of it from outside yeah

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I must say uh though some may find this

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a controversial point to make given the

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modern history of Germany and Greece uh

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I find the sight of a German chancellor

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issuing dictat to the Greek people to be

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profoundly offensive and I'm surprised

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that given that history that the Germans

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have not taken a self-denying ordinance

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at least in public pronouncements on

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this how do Greek people feel

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about being threatened and warned like

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this can I just add before that question

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cuz that we early this morning we saw a

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picture from 1953 where the Greek BM was

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signed off 50% the haircut for Germany

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yeah yeah that's been going uh

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personally I don't think that is a

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helpful Avenue simply because uh we want

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to get away from

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blaming a country as a

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totality for the sins of its leaders

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especially for the sins of its leaders

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in the distant past because that is an

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attitude that feeds very negatively into

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the Greek situation one of the obstacles

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with resolving the Greek situation is

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that that people say but Greece

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falsified its accounts to get into the

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Euro but Greece borrowed irresponsibly

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but Greece spent the money and I think

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what's useful to do is to separate

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actually who did those things it wasn't

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Greece as a total you know it wasn't the

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cleaners and the teachers that took the

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money and and you know lived the high

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life it was actually a a a mendacious

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and corrupt government of many years ago

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now if you accept that um then you still

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have to take responsibility as a country

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I think because you elected those people

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but what people must understand is that

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the corruption and the overspending that

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went on in the past four

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decades is the reason why Greece was a

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ripe victim for financial markets to

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speculate on but it's not what caused

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the crisis you know Greek train drivers

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retiring early did not cause lean

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Brothers to collapse um having too many

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nurses did not cause uh currency

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speculators as angular Merkel herself um

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identified in 2011 she made a speech in

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febu February 2011 in Hamburg where she

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said the very institutions that we went

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into debt to bail out are now using that

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money to speculate against the currency

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and that's a very difficult thing to

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explain to a democratic people who

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should trust us those were her words

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precisely now that narrative seems to

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have disappeared because it is

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inconvenient and it is difficult to

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explain and it's been replaced instead

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by this idea that you know um people

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going for a siesta in the afternoon when

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it's too hot that's responsible for the

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trouble Europe is in but it isn't it

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isn't and to fall for that I think is

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very dangerous because there's a

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systemic flaw inside the Euro you know

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you have countries that do not have

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their their hands on the monetary levers

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that mean they can deflate their

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currency if their if their economy is

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suffering and once Greece is dealt with

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whatever way that is either it is

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punished and put in a corner or it's

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thrown out of the yearo or it accepts

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every measure Under the Sun and and uh

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is forgotten about they will move on to

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the next weakest link they will move on

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to Portugal they will move on to Ireland

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well the the IR F themselves in their

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own leaked documents acknowledge that uh

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that it would be

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2030 before uh Greece would be out of

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the woods if it accepts this

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prescription and secondly the point as

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you rightly imply that has been entirely

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missed is that the Greek people were not

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given any of this money I think about

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10% actually is the figure 10% of the

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total bailout funds

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has not gone to private to bail out

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private French and German banks yes so

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in fact the EU is giving money to GRE

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money to but in fact it's not to gree

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it's to their own bank absolutely it is

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the continuation of the bailout that

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started in 2008 it's just because people

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were rioting in the streets the the a

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mechanism has be been found to sort of

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um do it via a country and conveniently

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also asset strip that that country while

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it's all going on you know our telephone

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uh company was the first to be sold

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highly profitable uh went to a a German

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conglomerate um on a price that many

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considered to be very very

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undervalue

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now when people see that they become

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angry people passionately believe in the

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European project I passionately believe

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in the European project project but not

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what it has become um and so in that

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situation you have the the the

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troa sort of coming into the country and

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saying uh as a sort of benevolent um

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Force listen things are really bad but

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if you follow these steps you'll come

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out of this difficulty and 5 years on

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the debt instead of 120% of GDP is now

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180 % of GDP the economy has contracted

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by a quarter I mean I don't know and a

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quarter of the people are unemployed a

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quarter of the people 54% of people

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under 24 we're talking about an entire

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generation of people who who are are who

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which is lost now you know you go to

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Athens people are looking in rubbish

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beins for food it's not it's that's the

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reality that's the reality and so when

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people then are told by the very same

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institutions no okay we were wrong then

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but no this time definitely you should

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follow what we say there is a lack of

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trust there isn't just there's this idea

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that there's a lack of trust that flows

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only from the institution towards Greece

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because it's seen as a sort of naught

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socialist child you know there is a huge

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lack of trust flowing from Greece

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towards the institution now if if Sara

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loses tomorrow uh it'll it will not be

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long before they're out of power I seem

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so yeah but as you say if the vote is

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narrow the polarization inside Greece is

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going to be extreme yeah and even if

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Sara Falls from Power they're not going

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to go away and the arguments they've

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been mounting are not going to be uh

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going away are you are you anxious about

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that I'm I'm anxious because we have a

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history of of civil conflict you know

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and I think everyone is anxious about

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that I hope that we've moved on from

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that I hope that we can you know tear

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strips out of each other and hover

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arguments with words and it stops there

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um but even even to look at you know the

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the people from the various opposition

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parties lining up on TV and and making

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these emotional speeches that we must

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vote Yes to Europe you know for our for

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our children's sake and these are the

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same people that you know pillaged this

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country for four decades like a plague

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of locusts

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the these corrupt governments absolutely

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destroyed the country and the EU now

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accepting that corruption is the biggest

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thing that needs to be tackled in Greece

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should be cheering for Sira for a party

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which although it doesn't disagree with

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it although it doesn't agree with its

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ideology it's at least clean you know

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it's an honest party it doesn't have its

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fingers in all sorts of pies and instead

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it's helping reinstall the same people

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who caused all of these problems and

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that me sends a very clear message that

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they would rather have someone obedient

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but corrupt in power rather than someone

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honest but actually freeth thinking well

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I couldn't put that better myself and

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there's no time for me to try Alex thank

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you very much and the best of luck to

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Greece

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and now it's your turn to tell us what

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you think through the portals of social

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media what's rattling guy about Isis Leo

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ohagen says one and religion problem

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solved two regarding the Greek problem a

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Greek friend once told me that fakes

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contain virtually all you need to

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survive throwing olives and feta cheese

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problem solve and that's all that we've

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got for this week which alas means

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that's the end of the show but you can

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from me George Galloway it's been

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marvelous

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