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welcome to Sputnik orbiting the world

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with me George Galloway and me gayathri

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it's not often that Britain's farmers

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make the news but when the price of milk

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became cheaper than the price of water

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something was bound to give and

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Britain's farming community hitherto

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stoic and demonstrative British started

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acting like well the French they cleared

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the shelves of hasta and Morrison's and

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started to give the milk away in the car

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parks and charities some big hi furs

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even made it into a supermarket aisles

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joining us now is Britain's top woman

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farmer and deputy leader of the National

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Farmers Union the NFU Manette butters

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minute let me say first and foremost

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you're the first farmer I ever met in my

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entire life I spent almost 30 years as a

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member of parliament I never met one

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person from the NFU and I already know

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that if I had that have been more

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informed about agricultural issues than

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I now AM start us off by telling us

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about this crisis in the agricultural

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community for dairy farmers I think

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there is massive frustration you saw the

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protesting it's been ongoing people

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going into stores empty shelves it takes

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years generations to build a herd of

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cows investment in dairy farming is

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massive probably one of the greatest

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investments goes into dairy farming so

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when you see a product being used as a

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loss leader over the number of years

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that milk has been used as a loss leader

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I think things in our boiling point you

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know farmers cannot go on producing milk

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below the cost of production well I

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understand why the supermarket's want to

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use milk as a loss leader and that's

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fair enough no one complains about that

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least of all the consumer but the price

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should not be paid by the producer

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should it I mean if it's a loss leader

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it's the supermarket that should be

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taken the law

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you're absolutely right and and when you

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you use it as a loss leader I think the

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damage you do to that supply chain is

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massive and that's what we're seeing now

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you know we need a supply chain that is

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transparent that functions they

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effectively we're paying the same for

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milk now that we were in 1982 you know

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you were paying 20 p a point in 1982 you

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can now buy a litre effectively four

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pints for ATP 19 is to 33 years ago you

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know that that's a real sign of why

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things are not working now and why that

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supply chain isn't working is it just

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about lost leading is there

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overproduction and if so how why there

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is definitely I think a global problem

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with overproduction I think a lot of

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emphasis was put on the Chinese market

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but that just isn't there like the world

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thought it was going to be but you have

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to remember that we are an island nation

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we have 65 million and rising to feed

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and we can be wholly self-sufficient in

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milk and milk product and I would say as

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a small island nation with pretty much

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the largest population in the EU we

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actually should be aiming for

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self-sufficiency and milk and milk

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products it's been reported that the

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sanctions on Russia for example helped

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drive down demand and therefore give us

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some oversupply but isn't it that people

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don't take seriously enough the issues

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that affect the rural communities in

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general agricultural communities

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specifically and they just don't have

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the political muscle to impact on

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governmental and corporate decision

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making I think you're right and I think

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we have suffered from several

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governments who have not taken food

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production seriously we have not had

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food at the heart of government British

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food which we should have you have to

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take on board a health education food

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farming you know they should all be

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intrinsically linked you know we waste

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more food than any other country in the

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EU are levels of education our

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understanding of food and where food

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comes from you know that is one of the

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lowest levels in the EU so I really

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really think it's not about farmers

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warning government handouts is about

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wandering an enabling environment and

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actually having government departments

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that are working together and I get

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enormously frustrated that the

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politicians haven't prioritized food

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there are only ever three meals away

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from from all-out Civil War basically so

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I think where we can be self-sufficient

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people want to be able to to buy out of

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a global food larder but there are areas

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where we should absolutely be aiming for

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self-sufficiency and milk and dairy

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products is one area if I were running

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the NFU and I'm glad you'll know at the

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top of it or near to the top of it I

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would conflate the interests of the

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consumer and the producer I would say as

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you've just put it very succinctly we're

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only three meals a day away from riot so

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the the mistake might have been for

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farmers to talk farming speak and talk

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producer speak always rather than making

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their obvious allies amongst the people

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particularly younger people who are very

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interested in food I know in our house

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there's always food programs on the TV

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whether it's come dine with me or

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looking back at what it used to be like

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unfortunately I remember eating in the

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70s eating in the 80s and so on so it's

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not that we've got a public which is not

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interested in food we've got a public

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that's probably more interested in food

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than it's ever been but somehow the

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producers and the consumers haven't

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quite knitted together I think you're

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absolutely right and I sit on the London

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food board and that's a great way of

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engaging with the new food policy

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influences and and we have to do it I I

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get very frustrated at the lack of

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understanding with school children of

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food production I've had school children

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out of my farm and they just love it

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they love knowing how food is produced

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watching a seed grow the very very

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basics and I think that we are in danger

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sometimes I've overcomplicating it and

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making it too difficult whereas actually

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if you give a good understanding of the

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basics you know we've now got four

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as a GCSE and sadly that the vital link

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with primary production is missing in

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that that needs to be in there with the

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food GCSE so that you have primary

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production in there as well Little Italy

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learning about food if you don't

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understand the production process so

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does it mean you get you know schools

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visiting your farm yes yes absolutely

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economy or just you know it's something

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I think that many farmers feel

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absolutely passionately about they love

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getting schooled children out of farm of

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course you know modern rondelle age it's

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pretty difficult yeah you know farms at

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the end of the day are our workplaces

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but it's very important even to get the

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farm into into the classroom which is

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which is maybe more achievable for many

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we're certainly as an NF you were

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involved with in London schools getting

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them out on farm getting a chef in and

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just showing them the basics I mean I

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understand that you're the first woman

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to be on the top of the Farmers Union

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and you're also the fifth generation in

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your family to work in farming now I

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myself am a city girl but I have worked

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with farmers before in the east of

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Indonesia called the Moluccas and I've

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worked with both men and women farmers

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you know the whole families involved

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then how is that in Britain how unique

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is your position as a woman's farmer

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here I think women are and probably

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always have been the backbone of many

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businesses I know my mother was very

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involved in our business it is really

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family is this year there are family

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businesses yeah yeah they really are and

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although our farm now is very different

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to what it was when my father was

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farming it it's had to move at the times

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it's a very different business now but

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it's very much a team effort and and all

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of us you know pulling together working

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together the point that you make raises

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an obvious question that is it a

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zero-sum game is food self-sufficiency

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in Britain and more protection in one

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way for British agriculture and a

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commensurate loss to countries in the

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developing world like Indonesia for

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example you mentioned the global for

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basket earlier to what extent can we

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achieve an equilibrium and a fair one

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between the International farmer and the

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domestic farmer and allow the consumer

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to make the kind of choices that we

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would all want to be able to make I

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think there are enormous global crushes

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on food there are only three percent of

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farmers in the world so there are three

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percent producing food for the

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ninety-seven percent it's pretty

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profound statistic and you know it's not

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really in any government's interest to

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have high food prices but we want

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sustainable farming businesses across

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the globe so I'm part of the world

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farmers organization and I think it's

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really important that that three percent

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actually works together you know we have

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to have the whole issue of climate

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change of water resource of food

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security and with Demi three percent of

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us to do it so we want to be our

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resource out of that that global larder

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but we want sustainable businesses

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across the globe to so there is an

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element of us actually working together

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in the EU but also across the world to

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maintain sustainable businesses and have

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a level you will have heard of the fair

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trade agreement you know actually

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producing to effectively a living price

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you know we've heard obviously the

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living wage which we all support

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absolutely want people to be able to

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afford better way of life have a living

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wage that is relative to that but you've

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got to have a living price that is

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relative to that as well last question

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then I mentioned in the introduction

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some rather unwritten quite militant

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tactics by the dairy farmers which I

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personally think was a masterstroke got

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you on to our show that's for sure our

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farmers becoming so cross that we might

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see the kind of things we often see

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across the channel in France I think

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they are incredibly frustrated they are

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angry they are frightened actually

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because many of them dairy

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farmers they are struggling to you know

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put food on the table and maintain their

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businesses and they want to drive those

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businesses forward huge huge investment

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in those businesses so I hope we don't

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see too much disruption in stores

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because that is our marketplace those

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are our consumers we want to keep them

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on board but we do want them to

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understand i think that the plight of

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dairy farmers so being able to go out by

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british look out for that red tractor

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logo and buying british dairy produce

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and right across of origin and the red

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tractor as a sign of an independently

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audited supply chain and you've only got

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to look back to the things like horse

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gates when we had supply chains that

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were tampered with and i think it really

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was a wake-up call to an island nation

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as she you know supply chains matter

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when it says a hundred percent on the

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packet horse gate proved but it wasn't

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so valuing our our UK supply chains

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which the red tractor is an endorsement

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of that it's very very important that's

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what we like the puppet to do red

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tractors sound good to me thanks Nanette

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batters of the National Farmers Union

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coming up after the break all things

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Tony Blair don't miss it

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you

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welcome back to Sputnik he's back Tony

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Blair he's plastered all over the

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British media warning labor that it

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faces annihilation if it doesn't take

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his advice on who its next leader should

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be Blair and Alastair Campbell

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apparently have a dossier on it swept

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off the internet floor it could all

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happen in 45 minutes apparently the

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killings of Tony Blair is imminent the

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movie I mean and the parents of some of

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the children Blair sent to their deaths

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have given childhood a two-week deadline

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to name the date for his inquiry report

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or legal action will follow it's all

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coming to a head for Tony Blair joining

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us now to pull all these threads

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together is political analyst James

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Randolph who also is working on the

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Blair documentary James thanks for

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coming on the sputnik let's start with

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the most up-to-date news the families of

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some of the slain british soldiers

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killed in iraq i have warned Chilcott if

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he doesn't name a date within a

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fortnight for the delivery of the Chaco

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inquiry report they're going to court

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this is beginning to heat up isn't it's

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beginning to sharpen up well it's been

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three changes of government since the

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chilcot enquiry was first launched Blair

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has managed to dance draw out and delay

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and use every tactic he can as a as a

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barrister to draw this out into his own

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interest but regrettably it's taken the

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families of dead servicemen to actually

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have to threaten legal action to bring

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this to a head is if she David Cameron

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keeps saying you know it's independent

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he's not in control of when it reports

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but of course it's the taxpayer that's

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paying for it it's cost many millions I

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don't know how many millions it's taken

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all these years three Parliament's and

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he keeps turning down government offers

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of additional staff to speed the whole

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process up David Cameron can't really

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wash his hands of this forever can he

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know he can't distance himself from it

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either it must be theirs

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tation of senior civil servants and

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officers within the Ministry of Defense

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who have interests in in this there's no

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reason to list of taking so long does

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all this mean do you think that what is

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eventually going to come is more

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devastating or are they delaying it

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because it's not going to be nearly as

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devastating as the public is expecting

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it's mainly to do with the maximization

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of documents and correspondence that

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took place between White House and

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number ten Downing Street at the time

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what we found in monitoring all of this

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at the Blair dock is that Blair has used

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every delaying tactic that he can it it

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it rings run them but I suppose my

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question is why is it because we're all

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going to be disappointed with the Joker

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report or is it because the Chilkoot

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report is going to be even more damning

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than perhaps we anticipate we've had our

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doubts about the makeup of the panel of

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the Chilcote enquiry from the girls who

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have died in the process exactly i mean

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this is crazy the people have died and

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you know there's been three changes of

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government but Cameron cannot use this

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as an excuse any longer he really has to

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and when you have the families of dead

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service personnel well concentrate the

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mind wonderfully and no I did make the

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point that Blair's everywhere I mean for

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the documentary it's terrific not so

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good for those who've got to stomach him

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on every screen on every front page he's

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now intervened in the Labour leadership

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contest with a an apocalyptic attack on

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Jeremy Corbyn saying that it would be

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effectively the destruction of the

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Labour Party to choose the man that

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seems almost certain ought to be chosen

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what does that tell us you used his

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words annihilation other words that have

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been described described to people who

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supported mr. Corbin morons and other

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forms of people who need a heart

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transplant if their heart is with him

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you know it's this is a political debate

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if the Labour Party had focused on

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attacking the government

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with such gusto where would we be but

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how does he imagine that this place I

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mean that's something we need to get

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into his head to father my suppose but I

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mean I'm wondering does he really think

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that anybody in the Labour Party is

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going to change their voting intention

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because Tony Blair asked them to it's

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ironic that he held his presentation for

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progress the other week at the institute

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of chartered accountants in the city

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whereas previously a labor leader would

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have held a trade union or you know a

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friendly organization for the institute

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of chartered accountants was just crazy

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he's friendly with a country every time

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he speaks bled doesn't seem to realize

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that there are another 10,000 members of

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the of the Labour Party you're prepared

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to join every time he attacks see jeremy

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corbyn it's absolutely crazy you see

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well that's one thesis and it might be

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right that is simply mad swivel-eyed

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unhinged although maybe method in this

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madness matter my theory it is this that

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unhinged as it was Blair's latest

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intervention is a Limehouse declaration

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for those not old enough to remember the

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Limehouse declaration preceded the split

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out of the Labour Party by the then

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right wing into the formation of the SDP

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the Social Democratic Party which

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eventually ended up in the Liberal

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Democrats but kept mrs. Thatcher and

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power for a for a decade I don't believe

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that not that Blair or straw or Campbell

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would be talking in the apocalyptic

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language that they are if they intended

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to remain in the labour party in the

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event of a carbon victory so I think

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that what we are beginning to see here

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now is an historic cleavage a second one

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the first one being in 1982 a historic

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cleaver which will lead to Blair leading

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his own party that's my thoughts what do

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you think well

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if he did many of his acolytes would

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have to leave the private industries

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they've gone in twos and they've gone

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into the private healthcare market

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they've gone into munitions companies

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and armed suppliers so it will be

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interesting to have them come back into

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mainstream politics and of course David

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Miliband his protege is in New York

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working for the International Rescue

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Committee there's a thought will he come

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to the rescue of the balearics oh my he

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returned to Britain to lead this new

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breakaway formation well he'd have to

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give up a massive salary in excess of

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300 thousand pounds a year he would have

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to give a lot of privilege that he's

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gone in his position in New York the

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establishment can fund that Boris

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Johnson gets more than 300,000 a year

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for writing one column in The Daily

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Telegraph so they can find a way of

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featherbedding the reentry of these

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people if it happened how do you think

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they do the carbon Labour Party now has

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six hundred and ten thousand members

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which is almost triple what they had

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before the last general election which

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was only three months ago how many

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members do you think Blair could take

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with him how would they prosper in the

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electoral game do you think well they

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play political brinksmanship all along

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and Corbin was a token candidate up for

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the left just to show that there was a

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democratic process within the party and

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it was doing a bit of precession for

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Blair's choices of lit this candle or

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Andy Burnham and but they were all on

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the far right at the party whether Blair

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will bring his his magic is black magic

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if you like going to the Labour Party we

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can only guess but at the moment he

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seems to be failing on all fronts the

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difficulty for us at the Blair doc of

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course is that keeping up with all that

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is rewrite after re right after reaver

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we've got the centuries or gift that

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keeps on giving which is a problem if

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you're making a movie about him because

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he of which finished it six months ago

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think how much we would have missed but

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it is on the editing table now so pretty

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eminent certainly before Chilcott in

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fact

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everything in life is going to be before

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joko at the current rate of progress for

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sure on the subject of of the Labour

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leadership it's now looking that carbon

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is going to win a victory is so big that

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no one can seriously question they can't

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say that it's Trotskyite infiltration or

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Daily Telegraph Tories it is love it

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here and it's too late to stop it it's

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too big to stop when you've marched six

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hundred and ten thousand people to the

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top of the hill you're not going to be

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able to march them down again we may be

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looking at a jeremy corbyn victory with

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perhaps seventy percent or more of the

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vote perhaps three quarters of the

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members voting for carbon I missed all

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that didn't you I've spent my whole life

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working for this but I never imagined

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that such a sweep such a swell could

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take place how surprising is it to

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people on the left for a long time like

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you it's groundbreaking it's absolutely

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utterly wonderful but breathtaking in

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light of the recent election results

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which sauce Scotland return one Labour

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candidate if that message hasn't gone

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out that a traditional labor Heartland

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like Scotland has lost a generation if

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they don't take preventive or measures

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right now in restoring it through so

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listen to me how many carbonates are

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there scotland by the way the SNP and

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wood would say that they've taken the

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call over vote because they've taken

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everything Jeremy's been wearing for

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years if this changes everything in

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Scotland you see and this is a point

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that other pundits have not picked up on

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Jeremy Corbyn is the only person who can

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turn things around for labor in Scotland

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can stop independence therefore jeremy

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corbyn is the only politician who can

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stop britain breaking up that's a pretty

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powerful reason to support him because

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that a stroke he'll take all those

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clothes back from the SNP they'll be to

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the right of the Labour Party

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there'll be the yellow tourists rather

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than labor being the red taurus it

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really is an absolute game changer it's

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a paradigm shift if koban does get in

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and we got to think of second votes

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we've got to think of the possibilities

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of the Blairites acting together in song

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but it's the only man ironically can

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save the Union is a traditional

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dyed-in-the-wool left winger by jeremy

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corbyn it says a lot of the state of the

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union at the moment hallelujah James

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Randolph thanks for joining us on this

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book and now it's your time to tell us

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what you think through the portals of

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social media what's rattling gayatri

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about the battle for milk I asked

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farmers versus supermarkets which side

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do you stand on both a says they should

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all go vegan and no one has to fight

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over milk that is produced for the cause

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David Taylor says tough choices farmers

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subsidized up to the eyeballs why treat

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them differently to other benefit

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claimants because if they didn't work

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with all staff hmm on Blair where is he

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heading Ricardo Picasso says he tried

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his best to kill the Labour Party and

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now he's complaining about the

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life-support machine and Luigi says you

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can have any color you want as long as

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it's blue well Blair is the big story

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this week indeed many many weeks is the

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big story he's clearly not left the

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political stage my guess is he intends

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to come back right at the center of it

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we'll see and that's all that we've got

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for this week which alas means that's

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the end of the show you can stay in

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touch with us on twitter at RT

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underscore sputnik or on Facebook would

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make on Russia today it's goodbye from

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me Gayatri and from me George Galloway

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it's been marvelous

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you