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okay I

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welcome to Sputnik orbiting the world

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with me George Galloway and me gri a

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democratic explosion unprecedented in

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British history that's all who knew the

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long hot summer of 2015 would provide

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such epocal headlines as this on Jeremy

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Corbin written by the most significant

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chronicler of our age Sheamus mil of the

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Guardian who joins us now Sheamus uh a

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very powerful opener to your peace in

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the guardian this week is not an

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exaggeration uh how come so few people

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saw it coming well I mean that is the

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case we I mean literally nobody saw it

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coming includ coming including Jeremy

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Corbin but now it's happened I think we

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can see what it came out of but yeah I

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don't think it is an exaggeration

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because you know last week we had you

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know nearly 170,000 people join the

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labor party in one day alone

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uh and that is now that's more than uh

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for example all the people who voted for

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David Cameron AS leader of the Tory

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party in 2005 when he became leader it's

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almost the totality of the membership of

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the labor party at the time of the

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general election three months ago yeah

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and I mean the labor party has tripled

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in size in in two months and it's

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overwhelmingly down to the Jeremy Corbin

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campaign it's something I really think

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that could not have been foreseen but it

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tells us something about the time we're

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living in you know both its volatility

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but also the fact that there is a deep

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revulsion against the existing political

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system and a thirst for something

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different and that was looking in

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Britain to express itself in some way or

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another in Scotland we know how it was

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expressed through the referendum the

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independence referendum and the SNP

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surge in the general election I think in

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the rest of the country it's being

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expressed right now through this

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extraordinary um leadership election

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which at the beginning you know when it

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started in the aftermath of the election

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looked like it would be the dullest ever

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and a kind of reversion to old style new

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labor politics and it's very much not

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like that now no as someone who has been

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um smeared and slandered libeled defamed

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all of my life uh even I'm shocked at

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the mud they're throwing at Jeremy

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Corbin but I'm even more surprised that

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it doesn't seem to be working where

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where is all this coming from and why

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isn't it working well that's it I mean

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the you you might expect the political

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class who've been hand ringing for years

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about the declining interest in Party

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politics and participation of young

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people in particular in politics they

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You' think they'd be delighted that

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hundreds of thousands are pouring into

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one of the two main political parties um

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to take part in a democratic election

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but not a bit of it of course uh they're

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absolutely uh imp parismetrodriving

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and so they're trying everything we've

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had one uh new labor Grande after

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another wielded out to denounce this

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process to denounce Corbin to say that

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this is uh the road to electoral

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Oblivion and then when that didn't work

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they've tried as you say more and more

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ugly smears against Corbin uh for his

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anti-war stance and because he called

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for dialogue with Hamas and healah um

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you know when Tony Russia it's

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apparently a great Scandal to want

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better relations with Russia when when

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Tony Blair um who has said that you know

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this is this is labor dropping off a

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cliff has met the leader of Hamas four

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times in the last three months so it's a

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kind of pretty bizarre Alice in

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Wonderland kind of attack but it's now

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got nastier still they're trying to

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smear Corbin um by association with

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anti-Semitism I me it's a really ugly

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campaign very very ugly now he's 66

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years old you and I have both known him

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for uh the best part of 40 years uh the

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very last thing in the world you could

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credibly accuse Jeremy Corbin of is

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racism and of course anti-Semitism is

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racism I think you know that the the way

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he is uh is one of the reasons um why

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this stuff isn't sticking he is so

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obviously a decent and honest person

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he's unspun you know he's not a

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triangulator of any kind he's been

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campaigning Against Racism in all its

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forms all his life he's been an

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indefatigable anti-war campaigner people

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are sick of these endless Wars that

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Britain is involved in uh and continues

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to be he stands for uh an opposition to

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an austerity regime which has already

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failed and is you know brutally being

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reimposed something that's happening all

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over Europe and we're seeing this kind

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of populist upsurge in different