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okay I get

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welcome to Sputnik orbiting the world

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with me George Galloway gatri will be

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back in her chair next week now I always

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called him the best Chancellor of the ex

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cheer that Britain never had the liberal

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Democrat Wipeout at the general election

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was no fault of his so far as one can

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tell through the Mists of collective

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cabinet responsibility Dr svin cable

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remained true to his principles

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throughout the co government principles

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of social democracy in short supply in a

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cabinet of exceedingly rich men led by

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David Cameron and Gideon Osborne now the

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Coalition and his seat in Parliament are

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gone let's see if any of the Mist has

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cleared and welcome Dr Vince cable to

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the Sputnik Vince thanks for coming on

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board uh we'll talk about your new book

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in just a minute but first I'd like to

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ask you how you've seen the whole Jeremy

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Corbin phenomenon you and I sat with him

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in Parliament for many of a year none of

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us neither of us thought none of us he

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didn't think that he'd ever end up as

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the leader of Her Majesty's uh

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opposition it's kind of burst uh on the

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politicals seen as a kind of rare

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phenomenon I I say not since Atley

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defeated Churchill has there been an

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upset like it how does it seem to you

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well I I mean I think everybody's been

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taken back I think including him

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I think this sort of upsurge of energy

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and radicalism I think there's a lot of

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good stuff in it I mean the worry I have

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uh the worry I have is that he will be

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transed by the Tories and that the Tes

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will now feel much stronger because

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they've got an Appo that they think they

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can beat and will move the center of

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gravity of British politics to the right

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and they will pose as a center party

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which of course is ludicrous but they

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say we've got farage over here and we've

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got Corin over there and we're in the

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and I I I think if I was a Gambling Man

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I would say right now they they have a

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good chance of staying in power for a

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long time it's a Pity but I think that's

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the consequence although David Cameron

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plush polished pumped up Born To Rule

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Flashman he'll not be Jeremy Corbin's

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opponent it'll be George Osborne almost

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certainly now you've been up close and

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personal with him more than I but it

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seems to me he's an easier opponent for

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Corbin than Cameron would have been well

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he's a very smart guy I mean he's a very

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strategic very thoughtful he does a lot

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of the planning for the Tes behind the

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scene and his his chance U of following

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through the Legacy depends on the

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economy you know if it tanks in two or

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three years time I think it could I

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think the risks are there is what I

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wrote about in this book uh then he will

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not be such a powerful proposition as he

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appears today so the timing of is's

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going into the top job and then

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succeeding in it depend very much on the

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economic Legacy I think Cameron's pretty

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determined that he'll be his successor

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though well he's more or less an amst

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more or less and and he feels I think

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quite sore about the only real

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alternative of uh Boris Johnson I I you

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know people have different views about

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Boris Johnson I don't take him quite as

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seriously I mean you know he he's a

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clever guy actually underneath the

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buffoonery uh but I think unfortunately

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he's become the victim of his own image

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and he's not now taken seriously anymore

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I think Theresa May is potentially a

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powerful opponent if things go badly

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wrong she's as I discovered in my

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arguments with her over immigration when

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we were in the government he quite a

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tough cookie now the Corbin victory was

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met with a tidal wave of media ferocity

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one of the most bizarre was the

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Republican rert Murdoch's Sun newspaper

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uh making a gig gantic uh bruhaha over

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the singing of God save the the queen

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you were famously skeptical of Murdoch's

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power on the media scene and were

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determined to try and stop it becoming

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even more uh uh powerful hegemonic uh

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how do you see the British media scene

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now and particularly Rupert muk's place

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within it well the Sun newspapers as you

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probably remember from the last general

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election they managed to be in favor of

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Scottish independence in Scotland and in

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FA against it in England so they had

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this capacity to tiller themselves to

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Their audience but they they're powerful

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players obviously I never met the

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murdocks personally it's not a personal

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thing but I was concerned as you

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obviously are about media concentration

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that's still a big issue but I think the

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particular area where I got into

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controversy was trying to stop the

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Takeover of B Sky B and indeed by

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referring it to the competition

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authorities that's what's happened but I

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think in The Wider picture I do worry

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that this whole isue about concentration

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of power in private um usually right

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leaning media hands is growing