1 00:00:01,900 --> 00:00:05,960 [Music] 2 00:00:13,120 --> 00:00:17,320 okay I get 3 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,370 [Music] 4 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:40,239 welcome to Sputnik orbiting the world 5 00:00:37,160 --> 00:00:43,039 with me George Galloway and me gatri as 6 00:00:40,239 --> 00:00:45,000 predicted here on the Sputnik increased 7 00:00:43,039 --> 00:00:48,000 Russian intervention in the defense of 8 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:50,920 Syria from foreign Invasion has begun to 9 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:53,559 turn the tide the Syrian Army sons of 10 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:56,640 Syria everyone have been fighting at 11 00:00:53,559 --> 00:00:58,600 enormous sacrifice a coalition composed 12 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,519 of so many foreign countries and 13 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:02,519 terrorist groups it would take the rest 14 00:01:00,519 --> 00:01:05,239 of the program to enumerate them 15 00:01:02,519 --> 00:01:07,159 Russia's prestige in World opinion if 16 00:01:05,239 --> 00:01:09,799 not the chanceries of many world 17 00:01:07,159 --> 00:01:12,600 capitals has never been higher at least 18 00:01:09,799 --> 00:01:15,080 since the early 1970s so for the wise 19 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:17,759 and what next who else would we turn to 20 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:20,439 than haa caram Mustafa haa thanks for 21 00:01:17,759 --> 00:01:23,079 coming back on board the Sputnik let's 22 00:01:20,439 --> 00:01:26,600 start with the why first of all why did 23 00:01:23,079 --> 00:01:29,079 Russia choose this time to dramatically 24 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:31,079 increase its intervention in the war in 25 00:01:29,079 --> 00:01:33,119 Syria well because because there's an 26 00:01:31,079 --> 00:01:35,200 supposedly International Le Coalition 27 00:01:33,119 --> 00:01:37,320 fighting Isis and since actually that 28 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:39,759 Coalition got started in trying to 29 00:01:37,320 --> 00:01:41,399 weaken Isis Isis has actually expanded 30 00:01:39,759 --> 00:01:43,600 and has expanded its reach across the 31 00:01:41,399 --> 00:01:45,119 Middle East is now based in Libya and 32 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,920 therefore we're seeing the most powerful 33 00:01:45,119 --> 00:01:49,479 armies in the world actually not 34 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:51,240 neutralize this this threat that was 35 00:01:49,479 --> 00:01:54,320 actually described as the biggest threat 36 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:56,719 to humanity since Adolf Hitler so it's 37 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:58,200 become a Time Russia has decided that 38 00:01:56,719 --> 00:01:59,960 the time has come to actually intervene 39 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,360 and put a stop to all this mess only 40 00:01:59,960 --> 00:02:03,600 history will show whether they really 41 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:06,960 were trying to weaken Isis of course you 42 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:09,920 know my thesis seems to me improbable at 43 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:13,080 least implausible that all these armies 44 00:02:09,920 --> 00:02:15,239 all these Air Forces could bomb Isis so 45 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:17,400 much and yet leave them stronger than 46 00:02:15,239 --> 00:02:20,200 they were before they began but if 47 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:22,920 that's the why I suppose the big 48 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:24,760 question then is what next how long is 49 00:02:22,920 --> 00:02:27,800 this operation going to last in your 50 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:29,200 view uh What uh consequences is it 51 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,720 likely to have the length of the 52 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,680 operation is difficult to predict 53 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,440 because of course we're seeing a lack of 54 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,840 communication between all the players 55 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,599 just this morning the Russian Ambassador 56 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:40,560 actually announced that Britain refused 57 00:02:37,599 --> 00:02:42,280 to uh exchange uh intelligence with the 58 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,599 Russian count the Russian counterparts 59 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,840 so I think there's going to be 60 00:02:43,599 --> 00:02:46,840 difficulty on the terrain but of course 61 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,159 in the last Fortnight alone the Russians 62 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,400 have made great gains and have 63 00:02:48,159 --> 00:02:52,200 considerably weakened Isis and have 64 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:54,640 pushed them back so I think we're seeing 65 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:56,360 a very encouraging progress but I don't 66 00:02:54,640 --> 00:02:58,720 think it's the end of things because 67 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:01,480 obviously as we've said there is a 68 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:03,400 desire to Main main Isis in the region 69 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:05,319 and of course under the guise that those 70 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:07,680 that the Western Coalition is supporting 71 00:03:05,319 --> 00:03:09,080 are the supposed moderate terrorists I 72 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,560 mean I would have assumed that a 73 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,519 terrorist is a terrorist anyone who 74 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:14,280 blows up infrastructure and Slaughters 75 00:03:12,519 --> 00:03:15,799 civilians is a terrorist there shouldn't 76 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:18,360 be a sort of terrorist light and a 77 00:03:15,799 --> 00:03:20,200 terrorist heavy but apparently there is 78 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,879 and therefore there is a lack of will to 79 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:24,319 neutralize Isis which will slow down the 80 00:03:22,879 --> 00:03:26,599 process but of course what is 81 00:03:24,319 --> 00:03:28,519 encouraging is that in a fortnight alone 82 00:03:26,599 --> 00:03:30,480 Russia has made considerable gains and I 83 00:03:28,519 --> 00:03:32,879 think as a result we seeing the the 84 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:35,159 official Syrian Army maintain its strong 85 00:03:32,879 --> 00:03:37,519 position actually expand into former 86 00:03:35,159 --> 00:03:39,000 Isis Le territory and I think that is 87 00:03:37,519 --> 00:03:41,480 encouraging how long that's going to 88 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:44,720 last that's a different matter the uh 89 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:47,000 mistake you're making is to imagine that 90 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:49,760 uh terrorists who only half eat your 91 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:51,640 heart who only half cut your head off 92 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:54,439 who only half destroy the religious 93 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:56,200 places of minorities and so on uh 94 00:03:54,439 --> 00:04:00,120 they're not really terrorists that's 95 00:03:56,200 --> 00:04:02,680 what we're being asked to uh believe the 96 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:04,280 Phantom armies of the opposition I 97 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,879 described them so in Parliament a couple 98 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:09,920 of years ago that the so-called free 99 00:04:06,879 --> 00:04:11,959 Syrian Army even then didn't exist and 100 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:14,159 yet we're told Now by Western critics of 101 00:04:11,959 --> 00:04:16,400 the Russian operation that Russia is 102 00:04:14,159 --> 00:04:18,320 somehow bombing them even though in the 103 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:20,479 United States newspapers the Syria 104 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:22,960 newspapers it's long been acknowledged 105 00:04:20,479 --> 00:04:25,880 that there are no moderate terrorists 106 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:28,720 there's only Al-Qaeda and the even more 107 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:31,240 extreme Isis as I said the the terrorist 108 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:32,680 organizations are very much the same 109 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,720 parties that are just having different 110 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:36,080 labels to them but they're all acting as 111 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:38,039 terrorists they're all committing 112 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,960 heinous crimes against the civilian 113 00:04:38,039 --> 00:04:41,720 population of Syria which it has to be 114 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,800 reminded the majority of the civilian 115 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,880 population is actually Sunni now there's 116 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,800 been an idea of selling this conflict as 117 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,759 being somewhat the sunnis fighting the 118 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:52,240 evil alawite minority now the leadership 119 00:04:49,759 --> 00:04:54,199 of Syria is indeed or rather Bashar Al 120 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:56,199 Assad is an alawite but the majority of 121 00:04:54,199 --> 00:04:57,960 the Syrian population is Sunni and 122 00:04:56,199 --> 00:05:00,520 therefore the majority of the official 123 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:02,360 Syrian Army is made up of fighters who 124 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:04,000 are fighting these terrorists who are 125 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,400 killing them slaughtering them they are 126 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,280 obviously attacking minorities but 127 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:09,720 they're also attacking all the sunnis 128 00:05:07,280 --> 00:05:12,440 who are not signing up to their barbaric 129 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:14,880 uh Enterprise so very what we've seen in 130 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:17,160 the past if we've labeled this situation 131 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,880 in all the wrong ways possible we first 132 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:21,319 labeled the terrorists as being somewhat 133 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:23,160 Rebels we've somewhat labeled it as 134 00:05:21,319 --> 00:05:24,960 sunnis versus the others well that's not 135 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,840 the case because sunnis are fighting 136 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:29,000 against these terrorists so every step 137 00:05:26,840 --> 00:05:31,319 of the way we've described the situation 138 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:33,639 in Syria in the wrong way in order to 139 00:05:31,319 --> 00:05:36,360 sell a conflict and actually encourage 140 00:05:33,639 --> 00:05:39,360 the disintegration of Syria haa we were 141 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:41,880 in Moscow last week and uh the last 142 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:44,759 night we were stuck in a huge traffic 143 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:47,160 jam which we were quite surprised by 144 00:05:44,759 --> 00:05:49,440 obviously it's an 11 million City but 145 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:52,520 then as we drove past the Kremlin block 146 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:54,880 a road were blocked uh along it and we 147 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:57,080 then discovered that Assad was there for 148 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:59,199 the first time since the war Assad was 149 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:01,880 there at on a visit for foreign two 150 00:05:59,199 --> 00:06:03,639 foreign country that must be significant 151 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,840 it's very symbolic it's it's a an 152 00:06:03,639 --> 00:06:08,000 official recognition of the Syrian 153 00:06:05,840 --> 00:06:09,720 leadership bashar's leadership and it's 154 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,840 also a way of telling uh the West that 155 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,599 they don't care what they think of 156 00:06:10,840 --> 00:06:14,599 Bashar Assad because obviously Western 157 00:06:12,599 --> 00:06:16,599 capitals have insisted that Bashar Al 158 00:06:14,599 --> 00:06:18,280 Assad no longer had legitimacy but of 159 00:06:16,599 --> 00:06:19,960 course a majority of syrians still view 160 00:06:18,280 --> 00:06:21,599 him as his president it is for the 161 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,240 syrians to decide who their President 162 00:06:21,599 --> 00:06:25,720 should be and I think what the Russian 163 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:28,280 Jester has meant is to say that actually 164 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:29,800 we're recognizing Syrian legitimacy of 165 00:06:28,280 --> 00:06:31,240 their president here is the president 166 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,520 and there you go tough what do you think 167 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:35,000 they might have been discussing I think 168 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,919 they've obviously discussed the nature 169 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,639 of further operation further cooperation 170 00:06:36,919 --> 00:06:41,080 between the official Syrian Army and the 171 00:06:38,639 --> 00:06:42,960 Russian uh Army as well uh I think it's 172 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,720 to strengthen strengthening the ties 173 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,840 within the region and ensure that there 174 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:49,000 is a more longterm presence probably in 175 00:06:46,840 --> 00:06:51,919 Russia for the foreseeable future at the 176 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:53,560 very least to ensure that these us 177 00:06:51,919 --> 00:06:55,520 friendly terrorists if we can call them 178 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:57,440 that actually have pushed further and 179 00:06:55,520 --> 00:07:00,240 and leave Syria alone they're likely of 180 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:03,560 course to run uh many of them are 181 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:06,680 already running uh unfortunately some of 182 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:09,879 them to Iraq where they will still have 183 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:12,879 to be defeated also uh but many seem to 184 00:07:09,879 --> 00:07:16,080 be running to Turkey and turkey itself 185 00:07:12,879 --> 00:07:18,479 is now you could say almost uh in a 186 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:22,240 civil war situation you have such a 187 00:07:18,479 --> 00:07:25,120 complex pattern of conflict you have 188 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:27,240 secularists who don't like erdogan for 189 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:30,120 their own reasons you have the Kurdish 190 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:33,120 minority a very big minority uh being 191 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:36,840 attacked by erdogan and fighting back 192 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:40,199 you have the Overflow of the Isis and 193 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:41,879 Al-Qaeda phenomenon the whole Region's 194 00:07:40,199 --> 00:07:43,479 problems are not going to go away 195 00:07:41,879 --> 00:07:45,360 anytime soon are they the reason for 196 00:07:43,479 --> 00:07:47,599 that is because so many people actually 197 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:49,440 rather than attempt to find a solution 198 00:07:47,599 --> 00:07:51,159 really poured fuel under the fire now 199 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:53,479 for Melly they would argue that for 200 00:07:51,159 --> 00:07:55,479 erdogan this is really Karma because 201 00:07:53,479 --> 00:07:58,039 when he meddled in Syrian Affairs rather 202 00:07:55,479 --> 00:07:59,919 than play the great important neighbor 203 00:07:58,039 --> 00:08:02,039 that should have pushed for a piece 204 00:07:59,919 --> 00:08:04,120 resolution actually pushed for conflict 205 00:08:02,039 --> 00:08:06,080 he encouraged uh the foreign fighters to 206 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:08,240 come in he allowed turkey to become a 207 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,879 base for foreign mercenaries murderers 208 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,800 to come into Syria and commit the crimes 209 00:08:09,879 --> 00:08:13,720 that we know of and therefore it was 210 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,159 inevitable that it would spill over you 211 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,479 know when you play with terrorists and 212 00:08:15,159 --> 00:08:18,000 the Americans have seen this before the 213 00:08:16,479 --> 00:08:19,479 Saudis have seen this before you 214 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,720 inevitably get burned these are 215 00:08:19,479 --> 00:08:23,680 criminals who have absolutely no loyalty 216 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:25,360 and no sense of morality they will come 217 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:28,520 back and bite you sooner or later it is 218 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:31,000 a Frankenstein monster and erdogan's 219 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:33,360 blunder having started out with the 220 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:35,599 policy of no quarrels with the neighbors 221 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:38,519 ex ended up with quarrels with all the 222 00:08:35,599 --> 00:08:41,760 neighbors uh it it's a foreign policy 223 00:08:38,519 --> 00:08:46,040 error almost as big as Saddam Hussein's 224 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:48,800 invasion of Kuwait uh 25 years ago 225 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:52,200 because it may bring about not just the 226 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:54,519 end of his own political power and 227 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:57,040 project but runs the risk it's an 228 00:08:54,519 --> 00:08:59,240 existential threat actually to turkey as 229 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,800 a state absolutely because I think as 230 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:03,160 you you mentioned all the minorities 231 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:05,440 that are clashing within turkey this is 232 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:07,000 a recipe for disaster it's turkey is now 233 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,399 at boiling point and it's such a shame 234 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,680 because just a year ago it was actually 235 00:09:08,399 --> 00:09:11,160 doing well of course there were the 236 00:09:09,680 --> 00:09:13,399 secularist who were against erdan but 237 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:15,839 erdan had a comfortable majority he was 238 00:09:13,399 --> 00:09:18,000 quite a popular Statesman regardless and 239 00:09:15,839 --> 00:09:19,880 yet with a situation that is completely 240 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,519 that has become poisoned intoxicated 241 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:24,040 because of the Isis threat which has 242 00:09:21,519 --> 00:09:25,560 been used almost by all parties it has 243 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,480 led turkey to becoming this sort of 244 00:09:25,560 --> 00:09:29,760 chessboard which was a bit what Syria 245 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:31,680 was a few years ago now that situation 246 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:33,160 has moved into turkey and turkey is 247 00:09:31,680 --> 00:09:35,680 pretty much facing the problem Syria's 248 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:37,399 facing four years ago but but it has 249 00:09:35,680 --> 00:09:39,120 lost many friends and therefore might 250 00:09:37,399 --> 00:09:42,800 not even have the support that Syria is 251 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:46,000 enjoying today let's turn to Iraq uh if 252 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:48,240 it's possible to see if not the end uh 253 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:51,160 the beginning of the end of the 254 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:53,720 terrorist uh attack and occupation of 255 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:57,880 much of Syria it's not yet possible to 256 00:09:53,720 --> 00:10:00,320 see that in Iraq the 257 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:03,720 Iraqi state 258 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:06,320 does not yet seem capable of recapturing 259 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:09,399 the very significant cities and 260 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:11,519 territories that are still held by ISIS 261 00:10:09,399 --> 00:10:13,480 what's going to happen next there well I 262 00:10:11,519 --> 00:10:15,440 I think you pointed out that uh Saddam 263 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:18,240 Hussein's major error was it when he 264 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:20,399 invaded uh Kuwait he actually fractured 265 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,959 a lot of the Arab Unity that was a major 266 00:10:20,399 --> 00:10:23,880 blunder but there was something that 267 00:10:21,959 --> 00:10:26,360 Saddam Hussein managed to do was keep a 268 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:28,399 national cohesion you know the Iraqis 269 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:31,720 had a strong sense of nationality with 270 00:10:28,399 --> 00:10:33,279 the invasion of of Iraq in 2003 and the 271 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,040 divide and Rule politics that were 272 00:10:33,279 --> 00:10:36,959 instigated by the US the sense of 273 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,600 nationality has completely disappeared 274 00:10:36,959 --> 00:10:40,480 and now the loyalties are more tribal 275 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:42,000 and more sectarian so you have people 276 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,480 who are thinking why should I fight for 277 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,320 a nation state that I don't really 278 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:47,320 believe in I'm first and foremost a 279 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,920 Sunni I'm first and foremost a Shiite 280 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:51,639 and therefore there is no sense of 281 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:53,000 fighting in a in a coordinated way 282 00:10:51,639 --> 00:10:54,800 against the common enemy because 283 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,240 everyone is fighting for their own and 284 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,959 this is why Isis have managed to make 285 00:10:56,240 --> 00:11:00,519 incredible gains and we've seen that at 286 00:10:57,959 --> 00:11:03,240 times the Iraqi I Army was completely 287 00:11:00,519 --> 00:11:04,639 humiliated and defeated within 24 hours 288 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,600 simply because the soldiers didn't have 289 00:11:04,639 --> 00:11:09,120 it in them to fight for a country that 290 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:10,600 they no longer regard as their nation 291 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,360 and therefore something to be proud of 292 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:14,399 and something to fight for and I think 293 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:16,519 in that respect it's very difficult to 294 00:11:14,399 --> 00:11:18,920 predict an end of the catastrophe in 295 00:11:16,519 --> 00:11:20,839 Iraq for the foreseeable future is it 296 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:24,600 possible that Russia could become 297 00:11:20,839 --> 00:11:27,200 involved in Iraq also the request of the 298 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,480 Iraqi government just as it's involved 299 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,079 now at the request of the Syrian 300 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:32,160 government I think it's it's incredible 301 00:11:30,079 --> 00:11:34,079 humiliation for the us because these are 302 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,839 people that were placed by the US this 303 00:11:34,079 --> 00:11:38,000 is a government that's come on the back 304 00:11:35,839 --> 00:11:39,800 of a us-led Invasion and actually now 305 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:42,040 they're turning to the Russians for hell 306 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:44,200 that would mean of course in this 307 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:47,800 hypothesis and I have no idea whether 308 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:50,720 Russia has any intention of helping in a 309 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:54,120 big way in Iraq uh but that would mean 310 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:56,639 that Russia was now perhaps the most 311 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:58,720 significant International player in the 312 00:11:56,639 --> 00:12:02,600 Middle East would mean the end of 313 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:05,800 American heany uh in the region and 314 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:09,639 given Russia's good relations with Iran 315 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:12,440 would change the balance of power uh and 316 00:12:09,639 --> 00:12:14,240 direction in the Middle East I believe 317 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:16,639 in a very good way what's your take on 318 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:19,560 that well I think anything that we go 319 00:12:16,639 --> 00:12:21,639 far when we move away from American Hony 320 00:12:19,560 --> 00:12:23,480 I think that should be celebrated as 321 00:12:21,639 --> 00:12:25,199 we've seen whether it's Iraq whether 322 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:27,279 it's Libya and of course they're 323 00:12:25,199 --> 00:12:29,839 meddling in in Syria and their support 324 00:12:27,279 --> 00:12:31,800 of Israel nothing that American has done 325 00:12:29,839 --> 00:12:33,920 is to be welcomed in the region so 326 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,519 anytime that the Middle East moves 327 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,920 further away from the US I think it's 328 00:12:35,519 --> 00:12:39,160 very much to be welcomed and if it's 329 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,560 going towards another superpower I mean 330 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,040 personally I would favor more 331 00:12:40,560 --> 00:12:43,880 Independence for the Middle East and not 332 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,720 going from one superpower to the other 333 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,519 having said that anything that moves 334 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:50,199 away from the US is obviously something 335 00:12:47,519 --> 00:12:52,519 beneficial for the region definitely haa 336 00:12:50,199 --> 00:12:54,720 thanks as always for your expertise 337 00:12:52,519 --> 00:12:59,160 coming up after the break clear the 338 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:59,160 decks it's Max Kaiser 339 00:12:59,730 --> 00:13:04,600 [Music] 340 00:13:01,959 --> 00:13:06,160 welcome back to Sputnik Max Kaiser is 341 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:08,800 one of the world's most watched 342 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:11,360 broadcasters he's feared by the bad 343 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:13,880 loved by the good he's the Robin Hood of 344 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:16,760 the square mile and he's here now light 345 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:19,120 the blue touch paper and stand well back 346 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:22,639 there's no point in a script here Max no 347 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:26,959 because talking with you is pure uh free 348 00:13:22,639 --> 00:13:29,880 form Jazz but let me try and I shle the 349 00:13:26,959 --> 00:13:33,199 anger of millions you do you do you I 350 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:35,199 feel I feel their pain now let me just 351 00:13:33,199 --> 00:13:37,440 there's one I need to ask you about cuz 352 00:13:35,199 --> 00:13:39,519 it's particularly important significant 353 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:43,839 for me there's a report in the 354 00:13:39,519 --> 00:13:47,320 newspapers this week the 100 billion 355 00:13:43,839 --> 00:13:50,079 pounds in property purchases has been 356 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:52,920 made in London in just the last six 357 00:13:50,079 --> 00:13:55,320 years by Foreign Nationals what's going 358 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:58,600 on here this must be the reason why 359 00:13:55,320 --> 00:14:01,399 house prices and rents in London are now 360 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:04,120 higher than anywhere else in the world 361 00:14:01,399 --> 00:14:06,440 am I right absolutely there's uh the 362 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:09,320 piggy bank in London property where 363 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:11,560 foreign money comes in and it's cheaper 364 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:13,680 than opening a bank account in some 365 00:14:11,560 --> 00:14:15,279 other country it's cheaper than owning 366 00:14:13,680 --> 00:14:16,600 gold or silver but you know I was 367 00:14:15,279 --> 00:14:18,440 looking at this housing situation in 368 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:21,199 London George and you know the housing 369 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:22,920 associations which are private property 370 00:14:21,199 --> 00:14:26,240 George Osborne is allowing those to be 371 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:29,120 sold off yeah so this is a confiscation 372 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:31,040 of private property and they're going to 373 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:33,199 K people out onto the streets you know 374 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:35,399 this is beyond just the confiscation of 375 00:14:33,199 --> 00:14:37,519 private property this is Osborne's you 376 00:14:35,399 --> 00:14:39,720 know Hugo Chavez moment and this is this 377 00:14:37,519 --> 00:14:41,240 is owned by private property owners and 378 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:43,920 they're just taking it away and they're 379 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:45,800 reselling it at a huge discount and uh 380 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:47,360 you know this is this is a human rights 381 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,800 issue this can go to the international 382 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:51,160 criminal court because he's 383 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:53,079 disenfranchising this entire uh 384 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:55,040 generation that's being thrown out into 385 00:14:53,079 --> 00:14:57,480 the street but why don't why don't we go 386 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:59,399 to the ICC but why isn't this not 387 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:01,199 discussed in these terms this this is a 388 00:14:59,399 --> 00:15:03,759 criminal action by Osborne the 389 00:15:01,199 --> 00:15:05,959 chancellor that's just one area of of of 390 00:15:03,759 --> 00:15:07,680 law breaking that that I've identified 391 00:15:05,959 --> 00:15:10,040 another area of law breaking that I've 392 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:12,480 identified here is that this this this 393 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:14,680 country they do what called these PPI 394 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:16,440 schemes or PFI schemes where their 395 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,959 government is putting off their balance 396 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,800 sheet the debt of doing their 397 00:15:17,959 --> 00:15:21,639 privatizations for things like hospitals 398 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,839 and things like this and they say well 399 00:15:21,639 --> 00:15:24,759 the reason we don't do this debt the 400 00:15:22,839 --> 00:15:26,120 reason we don't do the low interest 401 00:15:24,759 --> 00:15:28,120 rates that are afforded to us from the 402 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:30,040 bank of England with 0% interest rates 403 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:32,560 is because under the treating we're not 404 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:36,680 allowed to go above 60% debt to GDP but 405 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:39,440 I'm sorry but in fact they are violating 406 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:42,000 that 60% debt to GDP they are violating 407 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:44,759 the Mast treaty and Mark Carney who runs 408 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:48,079 the bank of England knows this he's the 409 00:15:44,759 --> 00:15:51,120 regulator ultimately in charge he's now 410 00:15:48,079 --> 00:15:53,360 been caught flagrantly violating 411 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:55,319 international law so these guys when it 412 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:57,680 comes to property in London not only are 413 00:15:55,319 --> 00:15:59,959 they opening it up to the the foreign 414 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:03,000 billions that are ill gains that are 415 00:15:59,959 --> 00:16:04,839 jacking up hot money jacking up prices 416 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,959 forcing people out of the market they 417 00:16:04,839 --> 00:16:08,920 are also committing wholesale human 418 00:16:06,959 --> 00:16:11,279 rights violations and rampant 419 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:13,839 criminality they did it before by the 420 00:16:11,279 --> 00:16:16,240 way before you came here with Council 421 00:16:13,839 --> 00:16:19,040 housing millions of council houses have 422 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:21,519 been sold at knockdown prices virtually 423 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:23,160 nothing which is of course a loss then 424 00:16:21,519 --> 00:16:25,079 to the public that built those those 425 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:27,000 were owned by the state the housing 426 00:16:25,079 --> 00:16:28,680 associations are not state owned they 427 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,680 are privately owned and they're selling 428 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:32,560 priv private property again to other 429 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:35,399 private property by by feat they're 430 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:38,680 they're selling private property to a 431 00:16:35,399 --> 00:16:41,079 larger number of smaller private owners 432 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:43,959 and that means that rented economy that 433 00:16:41,079 --> 00:16:47,040 rented sector is no longer available to 434 00:16:43,959 --> 00:16:48,360 those who wish to or need to live in 435 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,240 rented property yeah but they go and 436 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:52,959 criticize these countries you know I've 437 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:54,399 mentioned Hugo chz before okay if you 438 00:16:52,959 --> 00:16:56,360 listen to osbor and Cameron they'll say 439 00:16:54,399 --> 00:16:57,600 Hugo Chavez is a socialist he's C is 440 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,160 getting private property from people and 441 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,440 doing wealth redistribution well it's 442 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,040 exactly what Osborne's doing he's 443 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:04,000 confiscating private property and he's 444 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:06,919 doing up upward wealth redistribution by 445 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:08,480 giving it to uh those who are hoarding 446 00:17:06,919 --> 00:17:10,480 properties they're they're property 447 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:12,039 hoarders you know and and that's 448 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,760 completely inconsistent with a 449 00:17:12,039 --> 00:17:15,559 functioning economy you don't want one 450 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:18,360 sector of the property sector acting 451 00:17:15,559 --> 00:17:20,039 like a a parasitical cancer gobbling up 452 00:17:18,360 --> 00:17:21,559 all the pieces of the economy that's 453 00:17:20,039 --> 00:17:23,559 completely inconsistent with having a 454 00:17:21,559 --> 00:17:26,640 well functioning economy well we saw in 455 00:17:23,559 --> 00:17:31,280 the newspapers last week an East Enders 456 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:35,200 actor funded by uh Israeli financiers 457 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:38,520 their nationality immaterial to buy his 458 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:40,760 Council house so that it in Hamstead so 459 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:42,880 that it could be knocked down and a 460 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:45,559 fantastically more valuable house 461 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:47,440 erected in its place and the East Enders 462 00:17:45,559 --> 00:17:49,720 actor who happens to be a tenant there 463 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:52,640 and who gets the discount will be 464 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:57,039 compensated by the Israeli financiers 465 00:17:52,640 --> 00:18:00,799 and somebody worth 20 3040 million will 466 00:17:57,039 --> 00:18:03,080 now occupy that space compensated from 467 00:18:00,799 --> 00:18:04,880 who it's compensated from the council 468 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,559 it's compensated from the taxpayer it's 469 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:09,159 compensated through money printing which 470 00:18:06,559 --> 00:18:12,559 is causing gross wealth and income 471 00:18:09,159 --> 00:18:14,200 inequality and social unrest you know if 472 00:18:12,559 --> 00:18:15,720 Osborne wants to know why there is 473 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,679 potentially such social interrest in 474 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:20,039 this country look in the mirror he's 475 00:18:17,679 --> 00:18:22,240 engineering it his financial engineering 476 00:18:20,039 --> 00:18:24,840 I mean this is this is Britain's Crystal 477 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:27,559 knocked okay this is Osborne's Crystal 478 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:29,679 knock he's given Open Season to private 479 00:18:27,559 --> 00:18:31,280 speculators to kick private citizens out 480 00:18:29,679 --> 00:18:33,480 of their homes and resell those 481 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:35,559 properties I'm not this is not I'm not 482 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:38,080 I'm not over guilding the Lily this is 483 00:18:35,559 --> 00:18:41,120 an atrocious violation of Human Rights 484 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:43,280 Osborne he should be going to the ha 485 00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:47,159 what with Tony Blair just in the 486 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:48,880 interest of balance the George Osborne 487 00:18:47,159 --> 00:18:53,159 whom you've criticized severely and as I 488 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:56,960 do myself last week we saw the Triumph 489 00:18:53,159 --> 00:18:58,799 of his pragmatism over the ideological 490 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:01,360 positions of the foreign office and even 491 00:18:58,799 --> 00:19:04,200 David Cameron it's Osborne who's driving 492 00:19:01,360 --> 00:19:08,400 the new opening to China in British 493 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:10,880 policy uh the wisdom to get close to 494 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:14,720 China and to become a pivot in Europe 495 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:17,320 and the world for the increasingly 496 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:19,480 strong uh fundamentally increasingly 497 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:22,039 strong Chinese economy this is wisdom on 498 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:24,320 the part of Osborne of course he's doing 499 00:19:22,039 --> 00:19:25,880 it because he wants Chinese money to 500 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:29,679 come to Britain but what's wrong with 501 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:34,159 that he's engineered uh and remarkable 502 00:19:29,679 --> 00:19:37,640 um economic atrocity by sending jobs to 503 00:19:34,159 --> 00:19:39,840 China in exchange for hot money that's 504 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:41,640 being enabled by these ultra low 505 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:43,360 interest rates here's what's been going 506 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,480 on for the last 20 years this country 507 00:19:43,360 --> 00:19:49,159 these policy makers and Britain does had 508 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:52,320 a choice either let jobs stay in Britain 509 00:19:49,159 --> 00:19:54,480 and let wages rise to go with those jobs 510 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:57,360 and have a natural organic inflation in 511 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:59,240 a well balanced economy or ship those 512 00:19:57,360 --> 00:20:01,120 jobs overseas to China and other 513 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:03,039 countries and monkey around with the 514 00:20:01,120 --> 00:20:05,280 economy through the mechanism of 515 00:20:03,039 --> 00:20:07,679 interest rate manipulation through extra 516 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:09,679 low low low interest rate manipulation 517 00:20:07,679 --> 00:20:11,640 and this is what has attracted this 518 00:20:09,679 --> 00:20:14,400 Chinese hot money because they can come 519 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:17,039 in uh with this money that is being 520 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:18,480 deposited in these properties here and 521 00:20:17,039 --> 00:20:20,240 they know that because the bank of 522 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:23,520 England's going to keep printing now 523 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:25,520 more than a trillion pounds uh to try to 524 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:27,720 bail out the banks they're guaranteed 525 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:29,440 some kind of return on this hot money so 526 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,760 they're giving a state subsidy to China 527 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:33,600 to deposit their hot money in China 528 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:35,520 they're not doing anything for wages or 529 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,320 work here in the Britain because all 530 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:39,400 those jobs are being sent over to China 531 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:41,840 the same thing is happening in America 532 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:43,600 and uh the quit proquo sucks you know 533 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,320 China if Osborne thinks he's getting 534 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,679 something for this he's going to get a A 535 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,600 revolution is what he's going to get 536 00:20:46,679 --> 00:20:50,200 he's engineering complete uh 537 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,960 Insurrection in this country and it 538 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,480 can't happen a day too soon because 539 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,159 these these people need some dignity 540 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:57,919 George these British people they can't 541 00:20:55,159 --> 00:21:00,760 live on Jin and Promises they need some 542 00:20:57,919 --> 00:21:03,760 sovereignty they need some dignity I did 543 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:05,159 try Mr R I did try well why dides you 544 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,799 come on my show nobody from that 545 00:21:05,159 --> 00:21:08,240 Administration ever comes on my show I'm 546 00:21:06,799 --> 00:21:09,960 freaking right across the street from 547 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:12,159 the mayor's office did they ever pop 548 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:14,720 over to say a word no because they know 549 00:21:12,159 --> 00:21:16,720 I'll skin them alive they'll be flayed 550 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:19,919 on television and their hypocrisy 551 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:23,159 exposed like a banana being 552 00:21:19,919 --> 00:21:26,240 peeled look let me stick with oor for a 553 00:21:23,159 --> 00:21:28,000 minute his chances of becoming prime 554 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:31,000 minister or at least leader of the 555 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:34,000 conservative party Visa Boris Johnson 556 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:36,840 the aforementioned mayor depend on the 557 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:38,480 British economy in 2020 if there's a 558 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,919 significant downturn in the British 559 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:43,559 economy Boris Johnson will succeed if 560 00:21:40,919 --> 00:21:45,440 there isn't George Osborne will succeed 561 00:21:43,559 --> 00:21:48,279 what's your money 562 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:50,559 on pop in the real estate property 563 00:21:48,279 --> 00:21:53,840 bubble is a dead 564 00:21:50,559 --> 00:21:56,400 certainty uh therefore under the choice 565 00:21:53,840 --> 00:22:00,240 that you just provided it would be 566 00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:04,520 therefore Boris Johnson so you you see 567 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:06,400 maybe 2017 2018 you see a significant 568 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:08,279 fall in the British econom the global 569 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:10,640 well it's a global economy is now 570 00:22:08,279 --> 00:22:13,720 running with a $200 trillion do debt 571 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:16,120 load uh the debt to GDP in Britain if 572 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:19,080 you include Bank debt public debt 573 00:22:16,120 --> 00:22:21,640 private debt is running at over 800% 574 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:23,440 debt to GDP not far off to where Iceland 575 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:25,480 was before Iceland blew up and by the 576 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,720 way Iceland just put 27 Bankers in jail 577 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:29,120 this week for doing the exact same stuff 578 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,840 that English and British Bankers have 579 00:22:29,120 --> 00:22:33,080 been doing during the same time period 580 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:35,720 why does Iceland have a respect for the 581 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:37,679 rule of law and and and Britain has no 582 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,720 respect National dignity the the 583 00:22:37,679 --> 00:22:41,480 Icelandic 584 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:44,200 people thus demonstrated National 585 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:46,080 dignity Max the public was as excited as 586 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:48,520 we are to have you on our show so we've 587 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:51,200 got some questions from them if you like 588 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:52,760 hit you John F for example wants you to 589 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,880 discuss the changes you would bring to 590 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:57,520 the financial sector in London if you 591 00:22:54,880 --> 00:23:00,320 were in charge look there's really only 592 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:03,000 one way to restore balance to the sector 593 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:08,760 and bring some accountability raise the 594 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:11,600 cost of fraud right now it's almost free 595 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:13,880 ride on committing financial fraud 596 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,840 because the cost of borrowing money is 597 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:19,520 zero therefore the cost of committing 598 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:21,480 fraud is almost zero so by raising that 599 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,080 cost of fraud by increasing the risk of 600 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,440 committing fraud you're going to reduce 601 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,240 the amount of fraud being committed 602 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:28,039 because the frosters right now are just 603 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:30,200 being given a free ride the the Vault of 604 00:23:28,039 --> 00:23:32,159 the SA is wide open there's nobody 605 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:34,200 watching it there's no oversight there's 606 00:23:32,159 --> 00:23:35,480 no law so how can you blame people from 607 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,600 just walking up and stealing all the 608 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,559 money of course they're going to do that 609 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,159 you need to close the vault door you 610 00:23:38,559 --> 00:23:42,919 need to put a cage around the money you 611 00:23:40,159 --> 00:23:45,000 need to increase the risk Pelle says 612 00:23:42,919 --> 00:23:48,320 what good is Terrorism for the UK 613 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:50,080 businesses like weapon sale gchq spying 614 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:52,120 banksters 615 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:55,320 corporations the terrorism business has 616 00:23:52,120 --> 00:23:58,480 never been more profitable for the UK 617 00:23:55,320 --> 00:24:00,799 you know I am quite amused whenever I 618 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:03,559 see the likes of Piers Morgan tweeting 619 00:24:00,799 --> 00:24:06,480 about America's gun culture from inside 620 00:24:03,559 --> 00:24:08,400 the British establishment the biggest 621 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,360 exporter of arms to the world the 622 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:12,919 biggest Mass slaughtering machine now 623 00:24:10,360 --> 00:24:15,039 Saudi Arabia's biggest arms supplier 624 00:24:12,919 --> 00:24:16,600 how's that for terrorism right okay in 625 00:24:15,039 --> 00:24:18,840 fact the arms we're selling to Saudi 626 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:21,240 Arabia are ending up in the hands of 627 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:23,919 Isis and Al-Qaeda before they're even 628 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:25,919 unpacked out the boxes right so where is 629 00:24:23,919 --> 00:24:27,520 the media on this where's the BBC 630 00:24:25,919 --> 00:24:29,320 where's Pierce Morgan he's out there 631 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,440 saying oh America guys I got too many 632 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:33,760 guns in America somebody just got shot 633 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,640 in America Pi you you just you're 634 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:39,520 sponsoring the biggest state terrorist 635 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:41,440 in the world the United Kingdom Max what 636 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:44,159 say goodbye 637 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:47,279 goodbye thanks very much the one and 638 00:24:44,159 --> 00:24:48,120 only inimitable Max Kaiser for coming on 639 00:24:47,279 --> 00:24:51,080 the 640 00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:52,840 Sputnik Alas and I really mean that 641 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:55,159 that's all we've got time for and it's 642 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:57,960 the end of the show but you can stay in 643 00:24:55,159 --> 00:25:00,600 touch with us on Twitter at rtor Sputnik 644 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:02,960 or Facebook Sputnik on Russia today it's 645 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:07,520 goodbye from me gatri and from me George 646 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:07,520 Galloway it really has been marvelous 647 00:25:11,290 --> 00:25:14,349 [Music]