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I'm George Ellis and I present Cal

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Imahara on our my Dean television here

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we are in London

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I speak my words really either in

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Parliament on television here on the

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streets of London Cal Imahara means free

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work that's where I stood

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so Cal Imahara in the two-way

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conversation check it out on our Medina

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television welcome to Cal Imahara with

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me George Galloway for Al mayadeen

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television coming to you from London but

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discussing the United States of America

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and in particular its president Donald J

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Trump which of course therefore means

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we're talking about the whole world

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because the reach of the President of

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the United States is indeed truly global

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and joined by an audience of

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distinguished experts and one or two

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enthusiastic amateurs like me now Donald

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Trump is in deep doo-doo I know you

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thought he already was maybe you thought

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he had just climbed out of the swamp

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that he'd promised to drain gotten free

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of Russia gate

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Robert moolah and all the dogs of war

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that were yapping and barking and biting

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his heels but he's back in the swamp

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again if you thought Russia gate was

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absolute lunacy wait till you hear about

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the Ukraine gate they have managed to

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simultaneously in parallel overlapping

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accused Donald Trump first of being a

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tool of Russia and at the same time a

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tool of Russia's worst enemy in the

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world which is Ukraine the proximate

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cause of the Rao is Donald Trump asking

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the new president of Ukraine who used to

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be a comedian and make of that what you

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will

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that must have been quite a phone call

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might have been a laugh a minute

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in it President Trump asked the new

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president of Ukraine to properly

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investigate allegations that the

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previous US administration of Barack

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Obama Hillary Clinton and yes Joe Biden

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had been up to the neck in corruption

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and malfeasance in Ukraine now maybe I'm

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missing something but it seems to me

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that the corruption malfeasance and

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crimes misdemeanors that might have been

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carried out by a previous American

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administration was rather more important

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than a row about the current President

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of the United States asking that it

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should be investigated after all what

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should Donald Trump have said yes

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there's a suggestion that many millions

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of dollars were corruptly made by people

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associated with my predecessor

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administration but I don't want you to

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investigate that just think about that

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for a minute and you'll I'm sure come to

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the same conclusion as me but of course

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it's not just the Joe Biden hunter Biden

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affair though it's worth spending a

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moment on that Joe Biden was the Vice

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President of the United States living in

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the White House itself his son hunter

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Biden was dismissed by the United States

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military for sniffing crack cocaine and

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in the twitch of a nostril after his

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discharge he ended up on the board of a

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very prominent Ukrainian oil and gas

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company on $50,000 a month he knew

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nothing about oil or gas Farzin owned

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you nothing about Ukraine so what was it

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that this oil and gas company first saw

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in Hunter Biden

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it couldn't could it be connected to the

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fact that his father was the vice

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president of the United States Barack

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Obama's children were too young I think

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to put on to the board of a Ukrainian

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oil and gas company but hunter Biden was

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free

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having been sacked from the US military

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for sniffing crack cocaine so they gave

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him the job they gave him the money and

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Joe Biden subsequently made more visits

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to the Ukraine than he did to anywhere

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else in the entire world

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now Ukraine's a beautiful place Kiev a

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beautiful city but I don't think he was

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there for the dancing girls or the

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chicken Kiev I think he was there

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because of the filthy lucre and not just

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$50,000 a month

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either and of course the Obama

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administration Hillary Clinton were up

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to their necks in other kinds of

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corruption much deadlier kinds than that

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the Obama administration coordinated

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fueled I would argue partially carried

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out the so-called revolution in Ukraine

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the overthrew the president said the

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Parliament on fire forced members of

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parliament at gunpoint to sign a whole

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series of laws one of which was to

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reduce the Russian language spoken by

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nearly 40% of the population of Ukraine

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to a second-class language no longer an

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official language so he asked me Donald

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Trump actually has a duty to ask the

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president of Ukraine to investigate

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these matters and that's what he did and

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the Democrats have pressed the panic

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button now that's been overtaken in a

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way by events in Syria you know I've

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said to you before how the world has

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turned upside down

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how left know is right and right is now

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left and left and right mean nothing at

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all the left in the United States is

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denouncing Donald Trump for withdrawing

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American forces from a foreign country

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he's being denounced from the left for

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ending an American war go figure this is

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Alice in Wonderland it's Alice Through

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the Looking Glass the right in America

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saying no more Middle East Wars and the

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left in America is saying more more more

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Middle East Wars I sometimes wonder if

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I'm dreaming all of this and yet it's

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real enough and both issues Ukraine and

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Syria the Kurdish question are now

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moving like a pincer against Donald

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Trump it's unlikely that they will

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succeed in impeaching him though you

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never know you never know if article 25

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might be triggered declaring Trump to be

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mentally unfit to continue as president

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of the United States and if he doesn't

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take that phone away that Twitter

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account his wife doesn't confiscate his

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phone he might well actually end up like

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that his late-night tweets certainly are

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evidence of madness quite often but if

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they don't impeach him if they don't

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remove him their fear that he's going to

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win a second term as president of the

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United States not least because the

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Democrats seem absolutely determined to

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nominate for the second time the only

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person in the United States who could

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lose an election to Donald Trump in this

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case the father of hunter Biden Joe

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Biden

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whose teeth flew out in a presidential

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debate on television the other day blood

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coming from his eyes on television in a

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presidential debate who if he stands any

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longer under these TV lights is going to

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melt because his face seems to me to be

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made of plastic these are some of the

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issues that we face in a discussion

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about the impeachment of Donald Trump

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let me turn to some of my experts who's

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got the microphone

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well this expert is a real real expert

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he's the United States citizen

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journalists working in England a

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champion of Julian Assange it's a

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pleasure to welcome you here Patrick

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Ellington thanks George so on this

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subject of impeachment I think I think

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what we can conclude here is that

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there's a trend happening both in the US

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and in the UK - maybe in Brazil we can

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include in this conversation

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the total politicization of all aspects

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of government every agency the judiciary

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the intelligence community and so what

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happens when you have this sort of

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culture and politics it's extremely

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dangerous you could have a complete

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breakdown of the forms of government

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that we've been used to seeing in the

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last so many decades and I think that's

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what's happening look at brexit the

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judiciary is involved in deeming the

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probation of parliament is unlawful

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politicians are being asked to hand over

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their instant messages to have them

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scrutinized to see if what they're doing

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at a political motivations well of

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course they've had political motivations

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because this is what politicians do but

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this is what's happening in America as

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well complete politicization of of all

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aspects of government law fair writ

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large sort of thing that put Lulu in

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prison arguably ahead of the last

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election in Brazil but what all this is

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doing is going to promulgate populism

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because the more the average voter sees

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this drift of the establishment away

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from the people this is how it's going

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to be translated in the case of Donald

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Trump absolutely this is how it's going

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to be translated by his base this will

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energize his base even more than they

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were in 2016 and so it's not it's gonna

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have the opposite effect I think I think

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the establishment is in a death spiral

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at the moment and they really don't know

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how to get out because they're so deeply

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invested in all these different gates

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and America's having gate fatigue a

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Ukraine gate tax gate the gate fatigue

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is setting in in the United States so

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that's that means that no matter how far

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they push this impeachment scenario it's

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that Lewinsky gate had in 1998 or that

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Watergate had in 1994 it's just not

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going to be the same the hand has been

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played so many times now in the last

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couple of years with molar the molar

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probe and so forth so it's it did law of

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diminishing returns has absolutely set

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in and again that defers to populist

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laws of physical itical physics at that

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point so that's interesting that's what

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I thanks for kicking us off with that

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Andre Walker you are a conservative

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commentator of note radio broadcaster

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writer how does it look to you from your

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side of the fence well look I think what

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you've just heard is extremely important

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we seemed right across the western world

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this out do you know quangos taking over

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huge sways of government so governments

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are no longer democratic and of course

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what they do is they constantly attack

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people who are democratic elected I

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thought there was a brilliant example

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actually in the UK of 21 year old Darren

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Grimes who campaigns to leave the

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European Union as a fashion student from

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the University of Brighton and the

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Electoral Commission has hounded this

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guy now we see with Rudolph Giuliani

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somebody who was quite obviously

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representing the president's the United

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States of America is now being

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investigated by his own agency the the

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southern what is it the southern New

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York law center the the office of the US

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Attorney I'm extremely concerned about

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this whole thing simply because the

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dear that you can elect somebody and

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whoever you elect there is a

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criminalization of politics

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criminalization that's a good word it's

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absolutely right and the crazy thing of

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course here is this what the Democrats

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are saying now one of the things that

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worried me I worked for Breitbart so I

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got involved in journalism when the

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Mercer family introduced me to Steve

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Palin so nobody could be more kind of on

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this page than I am but one of the

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things that really worries me it's the

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way that amazes me is the way that in

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America and in Britain there is a

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political class who have enriched

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themselves you know you look at somebody

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like help Bill Clinton and Hillary you

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know you're not talking about making a

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million dollars when you leave office

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you're talking about making a hundred

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million 200 million where does this

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money come from in the case of Joe Biden

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talk about shooting the messenger by the

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way in the case of Joe Biden the

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Democrats are now putting about that Joe

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Biden was so angry with the Ukrainian

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prosecutor dropping the investigation

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into his son that's why I called for him

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to be sacked now anybody with any degree

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of sanity can tell you that that is

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completely but fundamentally but

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fundamentally what we're watching here

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is this an attempt across the world

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whether it be Briggs it in the UK

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whether it be Donald Trump in America to

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drain the swamp to remove the

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professional political class and we are

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seeing them fighting back and they are

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fighting dirty and I have to say they

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are destroying in my view the political

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institutions both in Britain and America

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and it's very worrying can I tell you

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which country in the world gave most

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money to the Clinton Foundation

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I believe it's Saudi Arabia it was a

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good guess Qatar might have been a good

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second guess UAE a third guess but it

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was none of them it was Ukraine Adam

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Geary considerable intellectual

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commentator how does this all look to

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you well it you'd have to have a heart

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of stone not to love because it really

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is commedia dell'arte you were talking

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about the current president of Ukraine

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zalenski who was a former comedian and I

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have to say especially with politics

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these days there's really only two

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classes of politicians failed comedians

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and aspiring messianic cult Lee

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and so please don't follow me brothers

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and sisters so there's a but there's a

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tragic element to this tragic comedy

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because as we've heard before it's

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weakening democracy it's weakening

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institutions that used to help democracy

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in terms of providing them a foundation

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but which are being politicized for all

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the reasons that we just heard but when

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it comes to the people who one way or

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another or the ultimate judge jury and

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executioner of their own will it's going

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to make Donald Trump look huge and huge

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I suppose I should say but this is one

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element that I think we can look at Lee

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well it's going to be big Lee you've

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never seen anything like it

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and one thing that Trump reminds me of

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is he reminds me of a Democrat from the

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first half of the twentieth century into

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the latter part of the 19th century when

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we look at how the parties in America

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operated until sort of the 1960 70s the

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Democrats had two main wings

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there was the brute force Rock'em

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Sock'em East Coast wing the Tammany Hall

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wing the people who would dig up dirt

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and if they couldn't find any you know

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they'd liked it

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indeed and then there were the Southern

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Democrats who were sort of living in the

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post-civil war off to glow with all of

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their quite nasty policies and the rest

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of it the Republican Party though was

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neither of those things it was a

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combination of East Coast men who liked

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to play polo Midwestern men who ran

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medium sized honest businesses and all

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the rest of that and then there were the

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Cowboys from the West who the minute

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they arrived in New York or Washington

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would learn how to play polo and they'd

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trade the stats in in for a cravat

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Donald Trump is a Tammany Hall Democrat

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for him the worse the better he loves it

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when he's up against the ropes

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because that gives him an opportunity to

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punch his opponent all the way to the

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other side of the Ring so by these

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people who are quite lilliputian when

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you compare them to some of the

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opponents that people like Nixon for

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example faced Trump must be really happy

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angry but a happy sort of angry because

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is exactly where he wants to be the

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danger for Trump is that his base would

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become complacent and that more

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worryingly for him they would see Trump

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is becoming one who surrendered to the

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swamp they can't say that now because in

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fighting for his political life he's

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also fighting on behalf of his base it's

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the biggest I told you so moment and

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politics and he must be absolutely

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relishing it mom you're also a United

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States citizen an activist here in

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England looking across the pond how do

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you see things Carole Gould I'm a

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broadcaster and author I'd like to talk

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about at the coalface because in the

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past 48 hours President Trump has

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attended several enormous rallies

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I saw the Minnesota one in a sedan tech

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yeah Louisiana his base as we like to

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describe it couldn't care less about

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crewmen and Parnas the to the Ukrainian

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and the Belarus gentlemen who have been

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arrested at Dulles Airport again another

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thread in the Ukranian story what I find

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interesting about these rallies is that

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the the base is enormous and as we've

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all said just now and I'm not I'm not a

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trump supporter all right from the

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outside all right and in 2016 I I'm

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supposed to be an impartial journalist

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but I was a huge supporter of Bernie

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Sanders but let's look at 2020 and now a

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year is a long time in politics as the

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cliche goes but if you look at these

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rallies you will see that his base

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couldn't care less about hunter Biden

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they don't they wouldn't even know who

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Parnas and Froman are some of them are a

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little bit upset that Shepard Smith the

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host on Fox News had to leave his job

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yesterday Friday because Attorney

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General a bar had lunch with Rupert

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Murdoch the day before and President

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Trump as you say in one of his three am

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crazy tweets became hysterical because

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Fox News happened to show a poll that

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showed the

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he was behind and as you say Milania

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ought to take his phone away from him

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and of his toys but in a year's time I

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would say and when I prepared to do this

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program I was told how do you think the

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impeachment quote unquote will affect

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the poll Trump is Teflon man like Bill

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Clinton after the Lewinsky affair

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we always of us who remember it vividly

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remember that he could have run for a

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third term despite being what I call

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partially impeached because as Clinton

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said it's the economy stupid if you look

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at Illinois right now

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the industries are booming several

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states that were as as even the the

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front Lee the filmmaker who Michael

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Moore who is very much on the Left

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admitted in 2016

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people the blue-collar people are voting

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for Trump but also many Democrats

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because they had a house a car and a job

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ten years before and they had eight

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years of Obama and they're saying what

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happened so they voted Trump and if the

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economy is as booming now as it is in

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2020 Trump could have another term he is

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worried and the Republicans are worried

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right now about the gubernatorial

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elections coming up November 5th George

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Louisiana is Democrat the Republicans

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are hoping to overthrow the governor but

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Kentucky and Mississippi are possible

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moves to Democrats so they have to work

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very hard on those but let's not forget

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that in 2016 Trump won a number of

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states that Obama had won in 2012 and I

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would not be surprised and I am being

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devil's advocate here that in 2020 if

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this review crane thing blows over which

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I suspect it will even if Congress fails

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to impeach him the Senate will not all I

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eat my hat I've got my hat over there I

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leave mine to have a lunch together yeah

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absolutely

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with some ketchup on top Heinz God

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should I said that anyway all those

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other cat jobs out there are yeah

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but I if he if he if this blows over and

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he is Teflon man as I believe he is like

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Clinton you know we're all talking about

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big business big money deep state all

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sorts of conspiratorial ideas but at the

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coalface his base still they love him

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like you I'm a Sanders supporter do you

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think Sanders chances are blown by the

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turn the health turn that he's taken

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seems to me likely I think it's likely

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the world would be a different place had

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he won in 2016 he won twenty two

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thousand delegates twenty two states and

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he won the international the vote that

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we vote in overseas Americans overseas

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Democrats he wanted he wanted by a

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landslide against yeah and and some

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nasty things went on at the Philadelphia

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Convention the world would be a

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different place but now I think he is

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vulnerable because of his health much

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more of this coming up after the break

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[Applause]

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you're watching kalla-nohra with me

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George Galloway on Al mayadeen

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television coming to you from London

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discussing the United States of America

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and its president Donald J Trump most

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particularly earlier we took the Karim

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ahora camera onto the streets of London

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to see what the people thought let's

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take a look if Donald Trump is impeached

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what do you think the impact might be on

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US politics I think by and large it will

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prove that the procedures or the

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policies that we have in place actually

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work from fair bit impeached multiple

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years ago by now probably the day after

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he became president in my opinion is

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going to be best for the whole world and

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I think the kind of politics Trump plays

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it went mental for the development of a

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world order it can't be a good thing for

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you know any leader to be impeached lack

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of confidence from what I know though

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from people who are know in America he's

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got you know is really well supported

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over there so yeah I don't think it'd be

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a good thing at all for all round for

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anybody if he's impeached the vice

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president will will get you know the

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power so I mean the domestic it will

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have for sure an impact on the next year

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election but still the the guidelines of

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the domestic policy will be almost the

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same

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I mean I don't think it's so clear-cut

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really it'll set off some sort of chain

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reaction

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somehow I mean on the face of it it

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sounds like it's a great thing but then

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what does that mean if Donald Trump's

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not in power you've got Mike Pence you

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see any better the only troubles not a

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good leader for the people because he's

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our territory and absolute leader and

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this behavior is not a good behavior to

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democracy and to people how do you think

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it might affect some of the decisions

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that he's already taken for example

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withdrawing troops from Afghanistan

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Syria and the North Korean peace talks

549
00:26:17,940 --> 00:26:22,920
so while he's made those decisions don't

550
00:26:21,330 --> 00:26:25,350
think that he's actually would run any

551
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:28,710
troops as of yet so we fall into that

552
00:26:25,350 --> 00:26:30,180
hole Trump Obama era sort of where Trump

553
00:26:28,710 --> 00:26:32,340
spent the first year and a half just

554
00:26:30,180 --> 00:26:33,780
undoing everything Obama did the next

555
00:26:32,340 --> 00:26:35,310
president can sort of spend a little bit

556
00:26:33,780 --> 00:26:37,350
of time sort of undoing exactly what

557
00:26:35,310 --> 00:26:41,280
prompted it will not change the

558
00:26:37,350 --> 00:26:44,700
positions already taken he's very very

559
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:48,300
dangerous for life on Earth I don't

560
00:26:44,700 --> 00:26:50,460
trust his government enough so he my

561
00:26:48,300 --> 00:26:54,390
opinion a different government would

562
00:26:50,460 --> 00:26:56,670
make more certain decisions on that area

563
00:26:54,390 --> 00:26:58,380
what a peach talk peace talks with North

564
00:26:56,670 --> 00:26:59,970
Korea have gone gone pretty well you

565
00:26:58,380 --> 00:27:02,160
know he's done more for the for the

566
00:26:59,970 --> 00:27:04,680
peace of North Korea and in that area

567
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:07,740
than any other president has done you

568
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:10,140
know in recent leaving living history so

569
00:27:07,740 --> 00:27:14,040
I'm not really sure about that but as

570
00:27:10,140 --> 00:27:16,080
far as pulling troops out of war zones

571
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:18,750
like Afghanistan things like that

572
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:21,060
it'll be really left up to whoever takes

573
00:27:18,750 --> 00:27:23,210
charge if he if he does get removed from

574
00:27:21,060 --> 00:27:28,200
office to make them decisions when it

575
00:27:23,210 --> 00:27:31,570
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576
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:33,910
well mixed views on the streets of

577
00:27:31,570 --> 00:27:36,640
London and quite like the London er

578
00:27:33,910 --> 00:27:39,480
there myself one of the things that

579
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:43,630
stood out for me in those contributions

580
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:46,420
was the phrase chain reaction that the

581
00:27:43,630 --> 00:27:50,050
impeachment of Trump would undoubtedly

582
00:27:46,420 --> 00:27:51,400
create a chain reaction and I don't mean

583
00:27:50,050 --> 00:27:54,850
that in a good way

584
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:57,610
Trump has the support of at least 40% of

585
00:27:54,850 --> 00:27:59,620
the American public and almost all of

586
00:27:57,610 --> 00:28:02,700
them have got guns

587
00:27:59,620 --> 00:28:05,340
Winston how does it look to you sir

588
00:28:02,700 --> 00:28:08,590
Winston Hall M historian and political

589
00:28:05,340 --> 00:28:11,410
interested party I think that it's

590
00:28:08,590 --> 00:28:15,990
disturbing that since the mid 90s there

591
00:28:11,410 --> 00:28:18,070
has been a demonization of politicians

592
00:28:15,990 --> 00:28:19,900
polarization between the right and the

593
00:28:18,070 --> 00:28:22,000
left even though those terms don't seem

594
00:28:19,900 --> 00:28:25,750
to make as much impact as they used to

595
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:28,600
there has still been the idea of we're

596
00:28:25,750 --> 00:28:31,780
right you're wrong left or right

597
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:34,330
and people are if you're not on our side

598
00:28:31,780 --> 00:28:37,300
we automatically an enemy what it seems

599
00:28:34,330 --> 00:28:38,800
to be lost in this is that right or left

600
00:28:37,300 --> 00:28:42,220
people are still part of the same

601
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:44,020
country taking the president and putting

602
00:28:42,220 --> 00:28:47,020
him in front of impeachment proceedings

603
00:28:44,020 --> 00:28:49,890
which has been started is disturbing in

604
00:28:47,020 --> 00:28:52,720
the sense that the president is still

605
00:28:49,890 --> 00:28:56,200
now having to deal with the problems of

606
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:58,570
a possible impeachment procedure and to

607
00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:01,200
manage the country and to deal of course

608
00:28:58,570 --> 00:29:03,760
with the rest of the world it shows a

609
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:06,040
potential instability which is always

610
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:08,020
disturbing nobody likes instability the

611
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:10,450
world carries on fairly happily their

612
00:29:08,020 --> 00:29:12,640
problems as always but you like the idea

613
00:29:10,450 --> 00:29:14,559
that there still a steadying hand when

614
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,600
you introduce instability it has the

615
00:29:14,559 --> 00:29:18,820
same effect as putting your finger on an

616
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:22,480
LP that's going around something goes

617
00:29:18,820 --> 00:29:25,300
wrong discs get scratched and the world

618
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:27,190
starts to go a bit off-kilter if the

619
00:29:25,300 --> 00:29:28,990
president is seem to be focusing more on

620
00:29:27,190 --> 00:29:32,610
a potential impeachment and having to

621
00:29:28,990 --> 00:29:34,870
defend himself that leaves less

622
00:29:32,610 --> 00:29:37,900
attention for the rest of the domestic

623
00:29:34,870 --> 00:29:40,809
economy for the world economy and for

624
00:29:37,900 --> 00:29:43,800
stability that encourages other parties

625
00:29:40,809 --> 00:29:45,940
who have disturbing exchanges to stron

626
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:48,100
influence their own sections of the

627
00:29:45,940 --> 00:29:50,230
world if they feel that the cat's away

628
00:29:48,100 --> 00:29:52,420
looking at something else the mouse will

629
00:29:50,230 --> 00:29:55,590
play it causes further instability

630
00:29:52,420 --> 00:29:57,280
around the world and disturbing

631
00:29:55,590 --> 00:29:59,760
situation of the United States which

632
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:02,170
then has to be sorted out later I think

633
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:04,150
personally that the demonizing of

634
00:30:02,170 --> 00:30:06,220
President Trump as we saw here some of

635
00:30:04,150 --> 00:30:07,900
the people asked automatically said I

636
00:30:06,220 --> 00:30:10,330
don't like his politics I think he

637
00:30:07,900 --> 00:30:12,220
should be impeached the fact that one

638
00:30:10,330 --> 00:30:14,170
doesn't lack one's politics in democracy

639
00:30:12,220 --> 00:30:17,200
it's part of a healthy democracy you

640
00:30:14,170 --> 00:30:18,700
don't have to like everybody else you

641
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:21,700
can disagree with them but you can still

642
00:30:18,700 --> 00:30:23,559
say they're okay oh you can see I can't

643
00:30:21,700 --> 00:30:26,170
wait till the next electoral the next

644
00:30:23,559 --> 00:30:29,050
election but to say I think he should be

645
00:30:26,170 --> 00:30:30,970
impeached because I freaking don't like

646
00:30:29,050 --> 00:30:32,620
his politics that's a ridiculous

647
00:30:30,970 --> 00:30:35,740
statement as far as I'm concerned

648
00:30:32,620 --> 00:30:39,760
because he has to be judged for younger

649
00:30:35,740 --> 00:30:43,360
viewers an LP is what you now call a

650
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:45,300
music download from Spotify or somewhere

651
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,650
else I tend to forget I'm quite all the

652
00:30:45,300 --> 00:30:50,410
American gentleman in the middle row

653
00:30:47,650 --> 00:30:52,780
here everyone Kevin Oxendine failed

654
00:30:50,410 --> 00:30:54,550
comedian dual citizen you know you could

655
00:30:52,780 --> 00:31:00,250
end up the President of the Ukraine I

656
00:30:54,550 --> 00:31:02,500
could I could just wait yeah as far as a

657
00:31:00,250 --> 00:31:04,780
politically a dense person who was going

658
00:31:02,500 --> 00:31:07,660
to much going on in their working life

659
00:31:04,780 --> 00:31:11,770
to focus on the news daily and and keep

660
00:31:07,660 --> 00:31:14,170
tabs on everybody's career Trump is an

661
00:31:11,770 --> 00:31:17,050
obvious charlatan to me it a criminal

662
00:31:14,170 --> 00:31:20,290
from the beginning his practices in the

663
00:31:17,050 --> 00:31:22,450
80s with construction companies and non

664
00:31:20,290 --> 00:31:25,090
payments right now in Scotland he's

665
00:31:22,450 --> 00:31:27,160
refusing to pay court fees you know for

666
00:31:25,090 --> 00:31:28,240
being taken to court over his assumption

667
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:31,420
that there shouldn't be windmills

668
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:34,240
visible from his silly golf course I

669
00:31:31,420 --> 00:31:37,570
don't understand where these things are

670
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:39,100
going it the politics that people don't

671
00:31:37,570 --> 00:31:41,410
agree with is one thing but he's an

672
00:31:39,100 --> 00:31:43,179
obvious criminal and he does well he's

673
00:31:41,410 --> 00:31:46,270
not the first of those is he to hold

674
00:31:43,179 --> 00:31:47,620
office in the United not but he seems

675
00:31:46,270 --> 00:31:50,200
like he might be the most destructive

676
00:31:47,620 --> 00:31:51,690
because he was I want to challenge that

677
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:55,110
will you forgive me

678
00:31:51,690 --> 00:31:56,880
you see Barack Obama inherited two wars

679
00:31:55,110 --> 00:31:59,340
and made eight Wars

680
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:01,020
if Hillary Clinton had beaten Trump

681
00:31:59,340 --> 00:32:04,620
those eight wars would have been doubled

682
00:32:01,020 --> 00:32:08,190
down on actually Trump has started no

683
00:32:04,620 --> 00:32:12,270
Wars and has arguably no I don't think

684
00:32:08,190 --> 00:32:15,960
it's much of an argument created the

685
00:32:12,270 --> 00:32:19,470
basis of a lasting peace in the Korean

686
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:22,320
Peninsula and begun withdrawing forces

687
00:32:19,470 --> 00:32:25,110
from Afghanistan and actually withdrawn

688
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:26,760
forces from Syria now these are bigger

689
00:32:25,110 --> 00:32:29,460
crimes than not paying your electricity

690
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:31,530
bill in Scotland Wow

691
00:32:29,460 --> 00:32:34,410
that's a far stretch for not paying

692
00:32:31,530 --> 00:32:37,290
electricity bills I mean you see my

693
00:32:34,410 --> 00:32:43,280
point I mean Richard Nixon Lyndon

694
00:32:37,290 --> 00:32:46,080
Johnson killed four million people

695
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:49,920
including dropping an ocean of chemical

696
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:53,730
weapons on them in Indochina but you

697
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:57,060
don't seem to see that in the same vein

698
00:32:53,730 --> 00:32:59,370
as a guy who was a rogue landlord in the

699
00:32:57,060 --> 00:33:04,050
80s in New York I'm questioning your

700
00:32:59,370 --> 00:33:06,120
perspective yeah well again I've also

701
00:33:04,050 --> 00:33:07,350
voted for Bernie Sanders and it would

702
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,150
have been a different world if he had

703
00:33:07,350 --> 00:33:13,470
been a non-resident and so it's just

704
00:33:09,150 --> 00:33:19,290
difficult to to watch what is a the the

705
00:33:13,470 --> 00:33:21,840
ultimate agenda for someone that is out

706
00:33:19,290 --> 00:33:23,400
for just making money he appears to be

707
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,200
somebody that didn't anticipate being

708
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,390
president and now that he's well in

709
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:31,410
their imagined jessic and politician

710
00:33:27,390 --> 00:33:34,950
who's just out to make money yeah let me

711
00:33:31,410 --> 00:33:36,540
see as I said at the time I'm not happy

712
00:33:34,950 --> 00:33:38,400
that Donald Trump is President of the

713
00:33:36,540 --> 00:33:40,980
United States but I'm extremely happy

714
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,750
Hillary Clinton isn't I agree with that

715
00:33:40,980 --> 00:33:45,120
as well excellent

716
00:33:42,750 --> 00:33:49,830
the lady there in the middle wrong

717
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:52,050
Claudia Brian London consultant I think

718
00:33:49,830 --> 00:33:54,150
that he won't be impeached Donald Trump

719
00:33:52,050 --> 00:33:56,100
I also believe that he will beat

720
00:33:54,150 --> 00:33:58,530
everybody I'm going to tell you why you

721
00:33:56,100 --> 00:34:00,210
may say he's a madman when he tweets it

722
00:33:58,530 --> 00:34:03,120
early hours of the morning that's early

723
00:34:00,210 --> 00:34:04,590
hours London time I might add and also I

724
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,340
don't think Melania should take his

725
00:34:04,590 --> 00:34:07,289
phone away

726
00:34:05,340 --> 00:34:10,139
because he's actually gained a huge

727
00:34:07,289 --> 00:34:12,119
voter base by these tweets I speak to

728
00:34:10,139 --> 00:34:13,919
people on a constant basis that are

729
00:34:12,119 --> 00:34:16,679
actually not amused by his tweets

730
00:34:13,919 --> 00:34:18,270
they're empowered by his tweets that's

731
00:34:16,679 --> 00:34:22,349
something that you need to think about

732
00:34:18,270 --> 00:34:25,879
and watch when he he says I'm a strong

733
00:34:22,349 --> 00:34:29,669
and stable genius and in my unmatched

734
00:34:25,879 --> 00:34:33,450
what was the latest one in my unmatched

735
00:34:29,669 --> 00:34:35,609
wisdom yes glorious non self he is a

736
00:34:33,450 --> 00:34:37,710
confident man he has great confidence in

737
00:34:35,609 --> 00:34:39,240
himself but I will say that he is

738
00:34:37,710 --> 00:34:42,000
gaining a lot of support from people

739
00:34:39,240 --> 00:34:44,250
five years ago that did not support him

740
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:46,349
they now speak very highly of him and it

741
00:34:44,250 --> 00:34:48,629
is by the MADD tweets because they feel

742
00:34:46,349 --> 00:34:50,520
that he has a lot of courage and again

743
00:34:48,629 --> 00:34:53,399
as Teresa redwood you'd said earlier

744
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:55,139
George he hasn't started any Wars so he

745
00:34:53,399 --> 00:34:57,480
is looking quite good at the moment he

746
00:34:55,139 --> 00:35:00,990
is brokering peace around the world so I

747
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:04,010
do think that the madman act is just

748
00:35:00,990 --> 00:35:08,579
merely an act well that is interesting

749
00:35:04,010 --> 00:35:11,579
he certainly a he's a different man in

750
00:35:08,579 --> 00:35:14,280
my opinion on the platform at these

751
00:35:11,579 --> 00:35:20,190
massive rallies he's quite an effect of

752
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:22,890
mass orator actually his tweets I say I

753
00:35:20,190 --> 00:35:25,410
still believe are completely unhinged

754
00:35:22,890 --> 00:35:27,150
most of the time I can't believe that a

755
00:35:25,410 --> 00:35:28,740
grown man never mind the President of

756
00:35:27,150 --> 00:35:32,369
the United States actually wrote those

757
00:35:28,740 --> 00:35:35,670
words mean he he he threatened Turkey

758
00:35:32,369 --> 00:35:38,010
the other day with the absolute

759
00:35:35,670 --> 00:35:40,619
devastation and destruction of their

760
00:35:38,010 --> 00:35:42,720
economy well of course many presidents

761
00:35:40,619 --> 00:35:45,060
of the United States have visited such

762
00:35:42,720 --> 00:35:47,790
destruction on others but they don't

763
00:35:45,060 --> 00:35:50,940
usually put it in writing before they've

764
00:35:47,790 --> 00:35:54,480
they've done so but he is more effective

765
00:35:50,940 --> 00:35:57,119
in longer statements and speeches than

766
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:59,640
he is in the short form in in my view

767
00:35:57,119 --> 00:36:03,770
anyway thank you for that gentleman

768
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:07,050
behind you yes Joshua from South London

769
00:36:03,770 --> 00:36:08,790
yes I think this transposition if you

770
00:36:07,050 --> 00:36:11,280
like to call it left and right you

771
00:36:08,790 --> 00:36:12,960
identified earlier on yeah it's quite

772
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,599
evident on both sides of the Atlantic

773
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:17,220
and if we've got enough time I'd like to

774
00:36:15,599 --> 00:36:18,590
list them all there we go with a little

775
00:36:17,220 --> 00:36:21,500
bit of detail okay

776
00:36:18,590 --> 00:36:23,900
on my way to Ukraine guess what yeah

777
00:36:21,500 --> 00:36:25,340
Ukraine I met I happened upon an

778
00:36:23,900 --> 00:36:28,130
American tourist okay

779
00:36:25,340 --> 00:36:29,030
and yes I brought up politics shouldn't

780
00:36:28,130 --> 00:36:31,750
have but there you go

781
00:36:29,030 --> 00:36:35,210
you know what's done is done now when I

782
00:36:31,750 --> 00:36:36,800
we of course not to surprisingly got on

783
00:36:35,210 --> 00:36:38,330
the subject of Trump and of course he

784
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,280
was very anti Trump because he's a

785
00:36:38,330 --> 00:36:42,350
well-travelled well supposedly because

786
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:44,330
he's a well-traveled man he's you know

787
00:36:42,350 --> 00:36:46,340
he's got quite a worldview he's not your

788
00:36:44,330 --> 00:36:48,530
typical Trump supporter and he's

789
00:36:46,340 --> 00:36:51,230
consequently not a trump supporter but

790
00:36:48,530 --> 00:36:54,350
when I identified hit Hillary Clinton's

791
00:36:51,230 --> 00:36:55,940
support for the Iraq war even though

792
00:36:54,350 --> 00:36:58,250
he's supposed to be more left-wing than

793
00:36:55,940 --> 00:37:00,500
a trump supporter in in theory he

794
00:36:58,250 --> 00:37:02,450
condoned it he said oh it was not it was

795
00:37:00,500 --> 00:37:05,630
unpatriotic not to support it which is

796
00:37:02,450 --> 00:37:08,420
the not only a very tragic irony but is

797
00:37:05,630 --> 00:37:11,330
the it's just the worst case of sort of

798
00:37:08,420 --> 00:37:14,420
if you like naivety that I've heard from

799
00:37:11,330 --> 00:37:18,260
anybody any American I'm not trying to

800
00:37:14,420 --> 00:37:21,410
generalize any nationality of course but

801
00:37:18,260 --> 00:37:24,980
that was very very poor naivety on his

802
00:37:21,410 --> 00:37:27,560
part now the second example comes from a

803
00:37:24,980 --> 00:37:32,450
citizen of the UK my own uncle in fact

804
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:34,490
who I had who I was whose residence I

805
00:37:32,450 --> 00:37:36,890
was at sir a couple of weeks ago live

806
00:37:34,490 --> 00:37:38,540
long labor supporter okay he was you

807
00:37:36,890 --> 00:37:41,420
know he would he wouldn't vote Tory if

808
00:37:38,540 --> 00:37:44,150
his existence depended upon it but when

809
00:37:41,420 --> 00:37:47,180
I indicated to him that Hillary Clinton

810
00:37:44,150 --> 00:37:48,830
oversaw the destruction of Libya and

811
00:37:47,180 --> 00:37:50,090
that she you know again supported the

812
00:37:48,830 --> 00:37:52,190
Iraq war when I when I use those

813
00:37:50,090 --> 00:37:53,390
examples he just said and I can't

814
00:37:52,190 --> 00:37:54,920
believe I heard these words come out of

815
00:37:53,390 --> 00:37:57,850
his mouth that doesn't necessarily make

816
00:37:54,920 --> 00:38:02,260
her a worse person than Donald J Trump

817
00:37:57,850 --> 00:38:05,300
again very very deplorable naivety and

818
00:38:02,260 --> 00:38:07,250
if you like dismissive well is its

819
00:38:05,300 --> 00:38:09,710
perspective isn't it yeah it's a bit if

820
00:38:07,250 --> 00:38:13,670
you forgive me like my conversation with

821
00:38:09,710 --> 00:38:18,260
our American guests someone who's rude

822
00:38:13,670 --> 00:38:23,180
and vulgar and ugly and florid and fat

823
00:38:18,260 --> 00:38:27,470
and has a track record of a venal

824
00:38:23,180 --> 00:38:30,240
behavior towards women is judged in one

825
00:38:27,470 --> 00:38:33,540
way somebody who's uber-cool

826
00:38:30,240 --> 00:38:37,020
and smooth and immaculately tailored and

827
00:38:33,540 --> 00:38:41,369
can sing Sam Cooke is forgiven for

828
00:38:37,020 --> 00:38:43,590
bombing eight countries and killing

829
00:38:41,369 --> 00:38:46,350
thousands of people including American

830
00:38:43,590 --> 00:38:48,510
citizens isn't it this question of

831
00:38:46,350 --> 00:38:52,320
perspective here well very much so very

832
00:38:48,510 --> 00:38:54,510
much so I mean and again another another

833
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:56,250
example of when I use that example to

834
00:38:54,510 --> 00:39:00,660
another person who identifies as

835
00:38:56,250 --> 00:39:03,119
left-wing well in you know in supposedly

836
00:39:00,660 --> 00:39:04,920
more than just name but veering off the

837
00:39:03,119 --> 00:39:06,270
subject a little bit when I when we came

838
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:09,000
to the EU because I disagreed with him

839
00:39:06,270 --> 00:39:11,070
about you know the nature of EU and why

840
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:13,380
we should have left when I use the

841
00:39:11,070 --> 00:39:15,270
example of overturning Greeks democratic

842
00:39:13,380 --> 00:39:16,970
Greece's democratic referendum against

843
00:39:15,270 --> 00:39:21,140
the austerity package that was a

844
00:39:16,970 --> 00:39:23,880
coercively force upon it he just again

845
00:39:21,140 --> 00:39:25,500
overlooked that he said well you know

846
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,270
there was no other solution so it's okay

847
00:39:25,500 --> 00:39:29,580
even though that's as right-wing as you

848
00:39:27,270 --> 00:39:31,500
can basically get you know overturning

849
00:39:29,580 --> 00:39:34,080
the decision of the Democratic were the

850
00:39:31,500 --> 00:39:35,910
people and imposing what amounted to

851
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:38,430
almost economic sanctions on remarkable

852
00:39:35,910 --> 00:39:39,980
how many left-wing people are content

853
00:39:38,430 --> 00:39:45,200
with that

854
00:39:39,980 --> 00:39:45,200
Joshua just running out of time Patrick

855
00:39:45,500 --> 00:39:53,310
are they serious the Democrats or as

856
00:39:48,810 --> 00:39:56,760
this just short time to kind of ink or

857
00:39:53,310 --> 00:39:58,830
pencil in the ward I the letter I on the

858
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:02,030
forehead of Donald Trump or are there

859
00:39:58,830 --> 00:40:05,130
really going to go for it I think I

860
00:40:02,030 --> 00:40:07,470
think they have no choice but to go for

861
00:40:05,130 --> 00:40:09,840
it and I think the seeds of the the

862
00:40:07,470 --> 00:40:11,700
failure of the Democrats were were so in

863
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,590
a long time ago you can't escape the

864
00:40:11,700 --> 00:40:16,010
past if you go to the Donald Trump

865
00:40:13,590 --> 00:40:20,100
rallies you speak to some of these

866
00:40:16,010 --> 00:40:21,960
people on the fringe X Democrat Reagan

867
00:40:20,100 --> 00:40:23,930
Democrats if you will the one thing

868
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:27,330
they'll say is yes I know he's a

869
00:40:23,930 --> 00:40:30,990
completely bombastic he's does horrible

870
00:40:27,330 --> 00:40:33,000
things but he he says what he means he

871
00:40:30,990 --> 00:40:34,560
seems to speak the truth and this is why

872
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,180
they're supporting him the the

873
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,080
opposition's reaction is always

874
00:40:36,180 --> 00:40:39,330
hysterical

875
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:41,369
so now Trump can stand there and say

876
00:40:39,330 --> 00:40:44,400
look at the other side they're radical

877
00:40:41,369 --> 00:40:46,740
they're their policies are off the

878
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:48,690
there's absolutely no way that this is

879
00:40:46,740 --> 00:40:50,550
going to work in America and so you can

880
00:40:48,690 --> 00:40:52,260
sort of you know create distance between

881
00:40:50,550 --> 00:40:54,900
himself in the opposition it's a vicious

882
00:40:52,260 --> 00:40:57,390
spiral that's not going to end and like

883
00:40:54,900 --> 00:40:59,520
Adam said being able to play that this

884
00:40:57,390 --> 00:41:00,900
Tammany Hall style boxing match and hit

885
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:03,150
your opponent all the way across the

886
00:41:00,900 --> 00:41:05,010
ring this seems to resonate with quite a

887
00:41:03,150 --> 00:41:06,900
few people right now at this point in

888
00:41:05,010 --> 00:41:09,960
history but the last thing I'll say is

889
00:41:06,900 --> 00:41:11,670
Blue Democrats the one thing that they

890
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:14,369
voted for Ronald Reagan in the second

891
00:41:11,670 --> 00:41:16,380
term was absolutely on the economy if

892
00:41:14,369 --> 00:41:18,840
you look at American elections into my

893
00:41:16,380 --> 00:41:19,650
colleague here said this earlier the

894
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,140
401k

895
00:41:19,650 --> 00:41:24,990
the stock market driven fixed income

896
00:41:22,140 --> 00:41:26,790
retirements that generates votes that

897
00:41:24,990 --> 00:41:28,200
translates into votes in a general

898
00:41:26,790 --> 00:41:30,450
election for a reelection

899
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:32,490
if the stock markets up if the stock

900
00:41:30,450 --> 00:41:35,610
markets up he's going to get those

901
00:41:32,490 --> 00:41:37,710
available votes from moderate Democrats

902
00:41:35,610 --> 00:41:39,270
absolutely 100% because I've spoke to

903
00:41:37,710 --> 00:41:42,270
many of them already this year and

904
00:41:39,270 --> 00:41:45,140
they're sheepishly quietly saying they

905
00:41:42,270 --> 00:41:47,430
probably going to vote for Trump a gent

906
00:41:45,140 --> 00:41:50,730
how does it all look to you my friend

907
00:41:47,430 --> 00:41:53,760
yes well I'm glad that you've left me

908
00:41:50,730 --> 00:41:58,920
too near the end we always save the best

909
00:41:53,760 --> 00:42:05,460
of I wanted to talk a little bit more

910
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:10,290
about why Donald Trump is attempting to

911
00:42:05,460 --> 00:42:14,160
be impeached by the Democrats it I think

912
00:42:10,290 --> 00:42:18,660
it's a lot to do with power and how that

913
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:21,300
power is financed because with the

914
00:42:18,660 --> 00:42:24,390
Republicans in the United States money

915
00:42:21,300 --> 00:42:28,260
is like raised in conventions with you

916
00:42:24,390 --> 00:42:30,840
know donors donating to the party in

917
00:42:28,260 --> 00:42:32,880
Donald Trump's case he had his own money

918
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:34,500
and he's still looking for more money I

919
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:37,380
think he spent any of his own money

920
00:42:34,500 --> 00:42:40,619
actually well he has but he's still

921
00:42:37,380 --> 00:42:43,350
looking to raise more money however with

922
00:42:40,619 --> 00:42:46,560
the the Democrats they have a central

923
00:42:43,350 --> 00:42:48,900
fund and that central fund stems from

924
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:51,750
the Clinton Foundation and there's also

925
00:42:48,900 --> 00:42:56,000
like an Obama foundation being formed as

926
00:42:51,750 --> 00:42:57,769
we speak I'm sure and these two

927
00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:00,329
financial base

928
00:42:57,769 --> 00:43:04,319
financed the two polarized political

929
00:43:00,329 --> 00:43:07,589
views and you can see allies to these

930
00:43:04,319 --> 00:43:14,429
two political views in Russia being more

931
00:43:07,589 --> 00:43:17,339
Trump ish North Korea Trump ish and the

932
00:43:14,429 --> 00:43:19,049
European Union being more Democrat the

933
00:43:17,339 --> 00:43:21,059
United States at the moment is being

934
00:43:19,049 --> 00:43:24,079
more Democrat despite having like a

935
00:43:21,059 --> 00:43:26,699
Republican president and I believe that

936
00:43:24,079 --> 00:43:29,519
Hillary Clinton never dreamt in her

937
00:43:26,699 --> 00:43:33,119
wildest dreams that Donald Trump would

938
00:43:29,519 --> 00:43:35,669
beat her in the 2016 election because I

939
00:43:33,119 --> 00:43:38,339
think that the secret services were very

940
00:43:35,669 --> 00:43:40,799
busy in the background manipulating the

941
00:43:38,339 --> 00:43:44,159
count but I think the swing to Trump was

942
00:43:40,799 --> 00:43:46,589
so huge she lost and she doesn't believe

943
00:43:44,159 --> 00:43:49,409
it and doesn't accept it and that's

944
00:43:46,589 --> 00:43:52,679
really what's behind it it's anger that

945
00:43:49,409 --> 00:43:57,869
she can lose based upon something that

946
00:43:52,679 --> 00:43:59,699
wasn't planned and that planning has

947
00:43:57,869 --> 00:44:02,099
gone long into the future it started a

948
00:43:59,699 --> 00:44:04,679
long long time ago they envisioned

949
00:44:02,099 --> 00:44:06,959
envisioned a democratic government on

950
00:44:04,679 --> 00:44:09,689
the left side of politics for a very

951
00:44:06,959 --> 00:44:12,269
long time and Donald Trump is a big

952
00:44:09,689 --> 00:44:16,679
hiccup in their system and they're

953
00:44:12,269 --> 00:44:19,380
trying their hardest to resolve this now

954
00:44:16,679 --> 00:44:20,880
where is that Democrats money going to

955
00:44:19,380 --> 00:44:23,429
be coming from in the future

956
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:27,359
what seems to have escaped many people's

957
00:44:23,429 --> 00:44:32,099
notice is that in Ukraine they have the

958
00:44:27,359 --> 00:44:33,389
second largest oil and gas reserves or

959
00:44:32,099 --> 00:44:36,689
it's not I beg your pardon

960
00:44:33,389 --> 00:44:40,949
shale oil and gas reserves in the world

961
00:44:36,689 --> 00:44:45,630
and those shale and oil gas reserves are

962
00:44:40,949 --> 00:44:51,689
being exploited by bersama that company

963
00:44:45,630 --> 00:44:53,399
that Joe Biden's son is seconded onto I

964
00:44:51,689 --> 00:44:58,099
can't imagine that he would be and

965
00:44:53,399 --> 00:45:01,679
well-known shale oil expert yes yes and

966
00:44:58,099 --> 00:45:05,189
the the reason it's so important is

967
00:45:01,679 --> 00:45:08,150
because in the last 5 & 10 years the

968
00:45:05,189 --> 00:45:11,930
extraction of shale oil

969
00:45:08,150 --> 00:45:15,049
has become so economically viable it

970
00:45:11,930 --> 00:45:17,480
will be the biggest form of income that

971
00:45:15,049 --> 00:45:21,109
the world has ever seen it's gonna be

972
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:23,539
more than cars more than gold more than

973
00:45:21,109 --> 00:45:25,700
anything because it takes only a small

974
00:45:23,539 --> 00:45:28,069
amount of money to just shoot a bit of

975
00:45:25,700 --> 00:45:32,510
water into the crust of the earth to

976
00:45:28,069 --> 00:45:34,670
release shale gas and this gas comes out

977
00:45:32,510 --> 00:45:37,579
and it's virtually tax free to most

978
00:45:34,670 --> 00:45:41,270
people that are in the Democrat Party

979
00:45:37,579 --> 00:45:46,609
for one reason or another in the Ukraine

980
00:45:41,270 --> 00:45:50,690
for instance they preside over this huge

981
00:45:46,609 --> 00:45:53,750
shale gas reserve and Russia are fully

982
00:45:50,690 --> 00:45:56,720
aware of that and also a quarter of that

983
00:45:53,750 --> 00:46:00,589
reserve is in Russian controlled sectors

984
00:45:56,720 --> 00:46:03,170
and I think that the whole thing is

985
00:46:00,589 --> 00:46:06,640
being set up for a big world war

986
00:46:03,170 --> 00:46:09,170
starting in Ukraine because I think that

987
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:12,109
President Putin is fully aware of all

988
00:46:09,170 --> 00:46:15,470
this the Ukrainians are fully aware of

989
00:46:12,109 --> 00:46:18,020
it and that's why they are desperately

990
00:46:15,470 --> 00:46:19,309
trying to side with the United States of

991
00:46:18,020 --> 00:46:24,130
America because they don't want to be

992
00:46:19,309 --> 00:46:27,160
overrun by Russia and they could be the

993
00:46:24,130 --> 00:46:30,770
investigation into corruption in Ukraine

994
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:33,609
was stopped by Joe Biden who threatened

995
00:46:30,770 --> 00:46:37,010
to withhold 1 billion dollars worth of

996
00:46:33,609 --> 00:46:40,000
hell on video it can't even be denied

997
00:46:37,010 --> 00:46:42,260
yes unless the lawyer that was

998
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:47,930
investigating was sacked and he was

999
00:46:42,260 --> 00:46:50,000
promptly so we're looking at the reasons

1000
00:46:47,930 --> 00:46:52,789
for impeachment and these are huge

1001
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:54,980
reasons to get rid of a Republican

1002
00:46:52,789 --> 00:46:57,349
president who just wants justice for

1003
00:46:54,980 --> 00:47:00,470
people around the world and obviously

1004
00:46:57,349 --> 00:47:03,430
justice for his own people and being a

1005
00:47:00,470 --> 00:47:06,410
nationalist of course this is directly

1006
00:47:03,430 --> 00:47:08,390
opposite in policy to what the Democrats

1007
00:47:06,410 --> 00:47:10,579
are trying to do at the moment the

1008
00:47:08,390 --> 00:47:12,650
Democrats are trying to knock down walls

1009
00:47:10,579 --> 00:47:15,619
and President Trump is trying to build

1010
00:47:12,650 --> 00:47:16,400
walls to keep the nation together in the

1011
00:47:15,619 --> 00:47:19,369
United States

1012
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:21,420
and similarly throughout the world so

1013
00:47:19,369 --> 00:47:24,059
the the reasons

1014
00:47:21,420 --> 00:47:27,269
for impeachment are much more than

1015
00:47:24,059 --> 00:47:32,039
political their economic very

1016
00:47:27,269 --> 00:47:35,519
interesting Adam I mean leaving aside

1017
00:47:32,039 --> 00:47:38,999
that rather rose-tinted version of

1018
00:47:35,519 --> 00:47:41,609
Donald Trump's mission at least from my

1019
00:47:38,999 --> 00:47:44,279
point of view I'm not sure he's building

1020
00:47:41,609 --> 00:47:46,140
a wall to keep the nation together I

1021
00:47:44,279 --> 00:47:48,289
don't think he's interested at all in

1022
00:47:46,140 --> 00:47:50,869
keeping the nation together he's a

1023
00:47:48,289 --> 00:47:53,309
divisive politician deliberately

1024
00:47:50,869 --> 00:47:55,979
divisive he just hopes that there'll be

1025
00:47:53,309 --> 00:48:00,209
more on his side of the division than on

1026
00:47:55,979 --> 00:48:04,529
the other you have told me before that

1027
00:48:00,209 --> 00:48:07,769
you believe that that Trump will

1028
00:48:04,529 --> 00:48:10,619
comfortably be reelected are you still

1029
00:48:07,769 --> 00:48:13,650
of that view Oh more than ever before

1030
00:48:10,619 --> 00:48:16,319
the the danger for Trump was always that

1031
00:48:13,650 --> 00:48:18,569
he couldn't paint himself as the

1032
00:48:16,319 --> 00:48:21,150
perennial victim of the establishment

1033
00:48:18,569 --> 00:48:23,729
and the worst thing for him would be to

1034
00:48:21,150 --> 00:48:26,930
appear before his face as sort of

1035
00:48:23,729 --> 00:48:29,430
establishment lite establishment junior

1036
00:48:26,930 --> 00:48:31,619
establishment good good intentions but

1037
00:48:29,430 --> 00:48:33,539
nevertheless the road to hell this has

1038
00:48:31,619 --> 00:48:36,119
been absolutely brilliant for him and

1039
00:48:33,539 --> 00:48:37,680
there are some politicians in fact

1040
00:48:36,119 --> 00:48:40,109
throughout the history of the world some

1041
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:43,279
of the most successful political leaders

1042
00:48:40,109 --> 00:48:46,170
have been those who have courted

1043
00:48:43,279 --> 00:48:49,229
adversarial circumstances in order to

1044
00:48:46,170 --> 00:48:51,839
fight it the ones who had the big ideas

1045
00:48:49,229 --> 00:48:54,089
and implemented them peacefully and like

1046
00:48:51,839 --> 00:48:56,910
that one of my heroes dong Xiao ping is

1047
00:48:54,089 --> 00:48:59,519
the opposite of that he needed calm he

1048
00:48:56,910 --> 00:49:01,680
needed harmony in order to change China

1049
00:48:59,519 --> 00:49:03,539
for the better and lived more people out

1050
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:05,489
of poverty in the shortest period of

1051
00:49:03,539 --> 00:49:07,289
time than has ever happened before in

1052
00:49:05,489 --> 00:49:09,420
human history but then there are other

1053
00:49:07,289 --> 00:49:12,209
people a kind of Alexander the great

1054
00:49:09,420 --> 00:49:15,239
person who without an opponent who is

1055
00:49:12,209 --> 00:49:17,369
Alexander without the swamp to drain who

1056
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:20,309
is Trump the Great Swamp trainer and

1057
00:49:17,369 --> 00:49:23,400
because this swamp has become so

1058
00:49:20,309 --> 00:49:26,249
energized and so unhinged I mean come on

1059
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:28,739
Alexandria Cortez as the face of the

1060
00:49:26,249 --> 00:49:30,569
Democratic Party I mean it's it's lunacy

1061
00:49:28,739 --> 00:49:31,049
they've gone off the rails on the crazy

1062
00:49:30,569 --> 00:49:33,599
train

1063
00:49:31,049 --> 00:49:34,920
but this plays into Trump's hands it

1064
00:49:33,599 --> 00:49:37,170
plays into his

1065
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:39,059
bass and I think irrespective of who the

1066
00:49:37,170 --> 00:49:40,770
Democrats choose and it will probably be

1067
00:49:39,059 --> 00:49:43,619
Warren which is like Hillary Clinton

1068
00:49:40,770 --> 00:49:45,930
without the feminine charm he's going to

1069
00:49:43,619 --> 00:49:50,549
not only win big but I think he's going

1070
00:49:45,930 --> 00:49:53,609
to win huge Andre last word to you from

1071
00:49:50,549 --> 00:49:56,549
the Breitbart circles are you confident

1072
00:49:53,609 --> 00:49:57,960
that Trump will a not be impeached and

1073
00:49:56,549 --> 00:50:00,240
be reelected

1074
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,710
well impeach effectively means indict so

1075
00:50:00,240 --> 00:50:03,599
I I don't have an argument against

1076
00:50:01,710 --> 00:50:05,160
potentially being passed by the Congress

1077
00:50:03,599 --> 00:50:07,290
it won't go through Senate so we won't

1078
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,730
be convicted of the impeachment look I

1079
00:50:07,290 --> 00:50:09,809
think he's gonna win and I'll tell you

1080
00:50:08,730 --> 00:50:11,250
why because he's one of the few

1081
00:50:09,809 --> 00:50:13,140
politicians that we've ever come across

1082
00:50:11,250 --> 00:50:15,510
who actually gets into trouble for doing

1083
00:50:13,140 --> 00:50:17,339
what he told you he intended to do

1084
00:50:15,510 --> 00:50:19,740
people are going absolutely crazy about

1085
00:50:17,339 --> 00:50:21,359
this situation with the Kurds he said he

1086
00:50:19,740 --> 00:50:22,710
was going to pull American forces out of

1087
00:50:21,359 --> 00:50:24,540
absolutely everywhere and that's

1088
00:50:22,710 --> 00:50:26,369
precisely what happening but I'm not

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really because he sent the same number

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of forces to Saudi Arabia well overnight

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he's a direction of travel and the cars

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lit hey look as you said it's gone down

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from three three but what is étoile well

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no that's not that's not bad effort but

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look I will wait make one important

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point that people forget people think

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that Saints Barack is this marvelous

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person look as far as I'm concerned the

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hatred in politics did not start with

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Donald Trump Bernie Sanders should have

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beat Hillary Clinton in fact he probably

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did what happened was a series of rigged

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votes a series of games being played a

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disgraceful a primary system and then

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you have people like Barack Obama comes

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in every single conservative

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organization in America even the

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voluntary ones get investigated by the

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by the taxman and just a mass demand by

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Barack Obama and so just because we hear

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Donald Trump shouting a little bit we

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forget there's some real real nasty

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nasty people in the Democratic Party and

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Hillary is top of that list well there

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you are lock them up is not a good

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slogan in politics I've been George

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Galloway this has been Callum ahora on

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our Madine television you have been a

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wonderful audience thanks for watching

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