1 00:00:02,990 --> 00:00:10,769 [Music] 2 00:00:07,639 --> 00:00:13,679 I'm George Ellery I'm Steve Coppell and 3 00:00:10,769 --> 00:00:15,330 we are toppled Galloway which grabbed 4 00:00:13,679 --> 00:00:17,850 you this week when you grabbed me this 5 00:00:15,330 --> 00:00:20,279 week well we had some huge revelations 6 00:00:17,850 --> 00:00:23,820 in the ongoing saga of the undercover 7 00:00:20,279 --> 00:00:27,000 policing inquiry the CI cops 8 00:00:23,820 --> 00:00:29,099 scandal yes the Guardian basically 9 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:31,560 published the list of all the 10 00:00:29,099 --> 00:00:34,980 organizations which had been targeted by 11 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:37,829 undercover policing now the list went 12 00:00:34,980 --> 00:00:41,280 from the sublime which was a community 13 00:00:37,829 --> 00:00:43,890 group in Leeds was targeted when they 14 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:46,200 set up and they set up their huge 15 00:00:43,890 --> 00:00:47,760 threats in established order where they 16 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,620 set up a community group which was 17 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:53,940 funded by a grant from the government 18 00:00:49,620 --> 00:00:54,750 they were spied on by the rozzers to the 19 00:00:53,940 --> 00:00:57,449 ridiculous 20 00:00:54,750 --> 00:01:00,510 that's a huge list of people who 21 00:00:57,449 --> 00:01:03,300 infiltrated the the wonderful Socialist 22 00:01:00,510 --> 00:01:05,850 Workers Party charged that they had more 23 00:01:03,300 --> 00:01:08,640 infiltrators than anyone else everyone's 24 00:01:05,850 --> 00:01:11,159 favorite political group the SW painting 25 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:13,350 and loans a loss that they are and they 26 00:01:11,159 --> 00:01:15,060 were heavily infiltrated but I mean some 27 00:01:13,350 --> 00:01:18,000 of the names on the list as well were 28 00:01:15,060 --> 00:01:21,900 some more telling up to the RMT have 29 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:23,640 been heavily involved in unison unite 30 00:01:21,900 --> 00:01:26,250 anti-fascist groups Animal Liberation 31 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:30,090 groups and Communist Party repeatedly 32 00:01:26,250 --> 00:01:32,310 came up so it was common for me it was 33 00:01:30,090 --> 00:01:34,530 like well this is fascinating and it is 34 00:01:32,310 --> 00:01:36,000 quite staggering the amount of groups 35 00:01:34,530 --> 00:01:37,530 that were infiltrated it's not 36 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,570 surprising then I've searched for all's 37 00:01:37,530 --> 00:01:41,189 program that my dad always used to tell 38 00:01:39,570 --> 00:01:43,409 me the story of these days in the 39 00:01:41,189 --> 00:01:45,869 Communist Party in the 50s where they'd 40 00:01:43,409 --> 00:01:48,000 introduce open their meetings and they'd 41 00:01:45,869 --> 00:01:49,979 always say and hello to our friends at 42 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,240 the back because they knew special 43 00:01:49,979 --> 00:01:52,590 grants were standing at the back 44 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:56,640 pretending to be members watching them 45 00:01:52,590 --> 00:01:59,850 so it's not new but the scale of it is 46 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:01,259 quite extraordinary and and also for me 47 00:01:59,850 --> 00:02:02,729 what small Jordan is the way this 48 00:02:01,259 --> 00:02:04,380 Inquirer has been conducted we've never 49 00:02:02,729 --> 00:02:07,229 discussed us on this program before I 50 00:02:04,380 --> 00:02:10,950 know people who have been witnesses in 51 00:02:07,229 --> 00:02:11,849 the spy cops inquiry and there's been 52 00:02:10,950 --> 00:02:13,040 numerous 53 00:02:11,849 --> 00:02:15,230 staggering 54 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:17,049 misdemeanors but throughout the inquiry 55 00:02:15,230 --> 00:02:20,810 process for example one friend of mine 56 00:02:17,049 --> 00:02:22,430 the person who the spy cop she was 57 00:02:20,810 --> 00:02:24,260 involved with she didn't know through 58 00:02:22,430 --> 00:02:26,540 whom it was they published the name 59 00:02:24,260 --> 00:02:28,519 without even telling her and and so she 60 00:02:26,540 --> 00:02:30,109 had to find out through the press that 61 00:02:28,519 --> 00:02:31,790 someone secrets is a friend for five 62 00:02:30,109 --> 00:02:33,560 years who she lived with was actually an 63 00:02:31,790 --> 00:02:35,090 undercover police officer even though 64 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:38,629 she's been witnessed an actual inquiry 65 00:02:35,090 --> 00:02:40,730 and then someone else their name the 66 00:02:38,629 --> 00:02:43,700 name of witness was released through a 67 00:02:40,730 --> 00:02:44,900 risk assessment and put into the public 68 00:02:43,700 --> 00:02:46,310 domain without their permission the 69 00:02:44,900 --> 00:02:50,000 thing the whole thing's been sort of 70 00:02:46,310 --> 00:02:52,069 mired by incompetence and what looks 71 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:56,859 like willful neglect the proximate cause 72 00:02:52,069 --> 00:03:00,650 of this inquiry is the highly unethical 73 00:02:56,859 --> 00:03:04,069 practice of these spy courts of forming 74 00:03:00,650 --> 00:03:07,519 relationships with women yes some cases 75 00:03:04,069 --> 00:03:10,310 fathering children with women when the 76 00:03:07,519 --> 00:03:14,750 entire thing was a lie that the woman 77 00:03:10,310 --> 00:03:17,540 was a subject of their investigation now 78 00:03:14,750 --> 00:03:20,510 if that's not unethical policing I'm not 79 00:03:17,540 --> 00:03:23,810 sure what we direct the lives of these 80 00:03:20,510 --> 00:03:27,319 women they've damaged the lives of these 81 00:03:23,810 --> 00:03:29,810 children by appearing in their lives 82 00:03:27,319 --> 00:03:32,659 fathering their children walking away 83 00:03:29,810 --> 00:03:35,000 and they're the children no no that 84 00:03:32,659 --> 00:03:37,579 their father was actually a copper 85 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:39,739 rather than a bearded progressive yet 86 00:03:37,579 --> 00:03:43,430 it's absolutely an idea you're correct 87 00:03:39,739 --> 00:03:45,379 that's the most sort of nauseating part 88 00:03:43,430 --> 00:03:46,849 really of the something that that is the 89 00:03:45,379 --> 00:03:49,129 length so the guys who they're quite 90 00:03:46,849 --> 00:03:52,519 happily ruin people's lives and let's 91 00:03:49,129 --> 00:03:55,190 but I try I start to get my head round 92 00:03:52,519 --> 00:03:56,629 the source proportion of this yeah 93 00:03:55,190 --> 00:04:00,079 because some of the groups I infiltrate 94 00:03:56,629 --> 00:04:01,310 is no real threat I mean this is all I 95 00:04:00,079 --> 00:04:04,280 mean that's one of the main issues 96 00:04:01,310 --> 00:04:06,229 Assessors who chooses the Bruns that are 97 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:09,169 a threat to our way of life 98 00:04:06,229 --> 00:04:11,629 what is our way of life chooses which 99 00:04:09,169 --> 00:04:14,449 groups are a threat to it and the 100 00:04:11,629 --> 00:04:19,459 devotion of public money to penetration 101 00:04:14,449 --> 00:04:22,330 and forgive upon and and infiltration of 102 00:04:19,459 --> 00:04:25,780 these organizations some of them what 103 00:04:22,330 --> 00:04:29,560 of obvious and I've always worked on the 104 00:04:25,780 --> 00:04:33,340 assumption that the state is listening 105 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:36,789 reading and energies and hello to our 106 00:04:33,340 --> 00:04:38,469 friends at the back sending people into 107 00:04:36,789 --> 00:04:43,590 my circle I mean even when I ran for 108 00:04:38,469 --> 00:04:46,389 London mayor which was a small campaign 109 00:04:43,590 --> 00:04:51,129 154 thousand votes but nothing's 110 00:04:46,389 --> 00:04:53,830 remotely like enough ill funded a very 111 00:04:51,129 --> 00:04:56,800 small group of activists even amongst 112 00:04:53,830 --> 00:04:59,949 them I was looking around my own kitchen 113 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:04,900 table wondering who was there from the 114 00:04:59,949 --> 00:05:07,090 yard Devco or worse than the yard so you 115 00:05:04,900 --> 00:05:08,560 know I myself don't have a particular 116 00:05:07,090 --> 00:05:11,500 problem with that my life is an open 117 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:15,159 book I don't do things of which I'd be 118 00:05:11,500 --> 00:05:16,599 ashamed I sometimes do things of which 119 00:05:15,159 --> 00:05:22,500 I'd be embarrassed but that's a 120 00:05:16,599 --> 00:05:25,919 different thing but the devotion of 121 00:05:22,500 --> 00:05:28,659 significant public resources into a 122 00:05:25,919 --> 00:05:31,360 community organization leads or a 123 00:05:28,659 --> 00:05:33,690 friends of the earth meeting in the 124 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:37,719 stratum library it's clearly 125 00:05:33,690 --> 00:05:40,599 disproportionate and the other issues 126 00:05:37,719 --> 00:05:44,529 arise how many times did these police 127 00:05:40,599 --> 00:05:46,960 agents act as azam azam provocateurs in 128 00:05:44,529 --> 00:05:50,050 other words I'm a police agent I'm 129 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:53,469 encouraging you to break the law and to 130 00:05:50,050 --> 00:05:55,270 become more extreme that's not a logic 131 00:05:53,469 --> 00:05:58,419 in that because it keeps me in a job 132 00:05:55,270 --> 00:06:01,779 keeps the expenses rolling in the more I 133 00:05:58,419 --> 00:06:03,550 can encourage you to do dodgy things the 134 00:06:01,779 --> 00:06:06,969 more need there is for me to keep spying 135 00:06:03,550 --> 00:06:09,129 Morgan that's something that isn't being 136 00:06:06,969 --> 00:06:13,029 addressed yes in this regard one here 137 00:06:09,129 --> 00:06:16,150 second point is this is also long ago 138 00:06:13,029 --> 00:06:18,400 I mean so long ago I was still an 139 00:06:16,150 --> 00:06:21,819 activist in Scotland when most of this 140 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:25,810 spying was going on so as I saw you 141 00:06:21,819 --> 00:06:29,979 raised on Twitter the other day who the 142 00:06:25,810 --> 00:06:32,199 infiltrating no exactly this is my major 143 00:06:29,979 --> 00:06:33,430 problem with this at and well this is 144 00:06:32,199 --> 00:06:34,899 not a major problem with most bloody 145 00:06:33,430 --> 00:06:35,409 things that go on in society and we were 146 00:06:34,899 --> 00:06:37,959 here about 147 00:06:35,409 --> 00:06:40,509 historically after the event because 148 00:06:37,959 --> 00:06:43,809 there seems to be this notion in the in 149 00:06:40,509 --> 00:06:46,209 the public psyche or rather an ocean is 150 00:06:43,809 --> 00:06:48,009 forced onto the public psyche that oh 151 00:06:46,209 --> 00:06:51,879 well this is historical this this 152 00:06:48,009 --> 00:06:53,769 happened many many years ago and and and 153 00:06:51,879 --> 00:06:56,139 we're expected to believe that these 154 00:06:53,769 --> 00:06:57,580 leopards change their spots suddenly and 155 00:06:56,139 --> 00:06:59,409 this kind of thing doesn't exist anymore 156 00:06:57,580 --> 00:07:02,110 and it doesn't go it go on which is of 157 00:06:59,409 --> 00:07:03,369 course absolute unfettered nonsense and 158 00:07:02,110 --> 00:07:05,259 this would be it must be this is my 159 00:07:03,369 --> 00:07:08,739 major concern that's well and some of 160 00:07:05,259 --> 00:07:12,129 the date sort of gone to 2006-2007 so 161 00:07:08,739 --> 00:07:15,279 what are they doing now is it's the my 162 00:07:12,129 --> 00:07:16,899 logic would presume that the methods 163 00:07:15,279 --> 00:07:19,329 have changed that they don't know have 164 00:07:16,899 --> 00:07:21,249 no need to actually embed people in 165 00:07:19,329 --> 00:07:23,889 organizations now because of the rise of 166 00:07:21,249 --> 00:07:26,259 technology and social media and of 167 00:07:23,889 --> 00:07:29,050 course investigative powers Act of 2016 168 00:07:26,259 --> 00:07:30,819 where they basically legalized all the 169 00:07:29,050 --> 00:07:33,399 legal stuff they were doing before this 170 00:07:30,819 --> 00:07:35,169 node and exposed and that they would be 171 00:07:33,399 --> 00:07:37,169 monitoring biotechnology I mean I've 172 00:07:35,169 --> 00:07:39,729 seen it myself whenever I go out with 173 00:07:37,169 --> 00:07:41,499 disabled people on protests for example 174 00:07:39,729 --> 00:07:43,269 and kind of streets around the corner 175 00:07:41,499 --> 00:07:45,249 you always seen the green police fan 176 00:07:43,269 --> 00:07:47,649 which is the monitoring ban where there 177 00:07:45,249 --> 00:07:49,179 are monitoring what's going on social 178 00:07:47,649 --> 00:07:50,229 media well in monitoring telephone calls 179 00:07:49,179 --> 00:07:51,819 there's always parked a few streets 180 00:07:50,229 --> 00:07:54,219 around the corner by anyone who's anyone 181 00:07:51,819 --> 00:07:57,729 in it is working to rather than human 182 00:07:54,219 --> 00:08:00,249 yes no and exactly and it does make a 183 00:07:57,729 --> 00:08:03,759 question who are they now monitoring 184 00:08:00,249 --> 00:08:06,369 because it I mean it's no small stretch 185 00:08:03,759 --> 00:08:09,069 of the imagination for me and that 186 00:08:06,369 --> 00:08:10,899 someone like yourself with us we I'd say 187 00:08:09,069 --> 00:08:12,999 be monitored because of what you say and 188 00:08:10,899 --> 00:08:15,009 what you do i I think outlets like the 189 00:08:12,999 --> 00:08:16,479 canary would probably there be some sort 190 00:08:15,009 --> 00:08:17,679 of level of monitoring of them because 191 00:08:16,479 --> 00:08:19,929 some of the work we've put out in the 192 00:08:17,679 --> 00:08:22,360 past but also I hope they pay their 193 00:08:19,929 --> 00:08:24,999 subscript I hope they do yes the hope 194 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:27,369 though on the Petri exactly just $1 a 195 00:08:24,999 --> 00:08:31,089 month for four episodes GCHQ infants 196 00:08:27,369 --> 00:08:33,759 like it yeah and I also believe they 197 00:08:31,089 --> 00:08:35,349 monitored in current time this groups 198 00:08:33,759 --> 00:08:36,789 like to say the people against cuts so I 199 00:08:35,349 --> 00:08:38,289 support because they aren't I mean 200 00:08:36,789 --> 00:08:39,789 they're quite a militant to say lubes 201 00:08:38,289 --> 00:08:42,039 organization they've caused problems in 202 00:08:39,789 --> 00:08:43,449 Parliament before but it does make the 203 00:08:42,039 --> 00:08:45,370 question what the hell is going on now 204 00:08:43,449 --> 00:08:47,620 what do we not 205 00:08:45,370 --> 00:08:50,140 now about and I think in this age of the 206 00:08:47,620 --> 00:08:51,610 digital revolution and the Internet's we 207 00:08:50,140 --> 00:08:53,890 should or will be very worried about 208 00:08:51,610 --> 00:08:56,920 what they are doing by the way 209 00:08:53,890 --> 00:09:01,300 it's a small Segway but did you see the 210 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:04,120 report this week about the attitude 211 00:09:01,300 --> 00:09:07,240 towards black people in Britain by mi5 212 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:10,779 and mi6 in the 1960s did you see that 213 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:14,470 item there's a report never before seen 214 00:09:10,779 --> 00:09:16,720 documents from the security services in 215 00:09:14,470 --> 00:09:19,240 which they have an open discussion about 216 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:21,880 why it wouldn't be wise to employ 217 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:24,820 British black people in the service 218 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:28,450 because they are likely to have a chip 219 00:09:24,820 --> 00:09:30,100 on their shoulder they they never asked 220 00:09:28,450 --> 00:09:31,690 why they might have a chip on their 221 00:09:30,100 --> 00:09:33,430 shoulder handle by chip on their 222 00:09:31,690 --> 00:09:37,420 shoulder which would make them 223 00:09:33,430 --> 00:09:39,490 unreliable as servants of the state as 224 00:09:37,420 --> 00:09:42,160 men and women in raincoats 225 00:09:39,490 --> 00:09:46,060 now you might put that down too well 226 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:51,420 that was the 1960s after all but it is 227 00:09:46,060 --> 00:09:55,810 still the case that neither mi5 or mi6 228 00:09:51,420 --> 00:09:59,020 have a single person of colour ttan form 229 00:09:55,810 --> 00:10:02,140 an ethnic minority in either of the 230 00:09:59,020 --> 00:10:05,680 upper breaches anywhere they therefore 231 00:10:02,140 --> 00:10:10,690 must be the last two institutions in 232 00:10:05,680 --> 00:10:11,860 Britain there are all quite Affairs here 233 00:10:10,690 --> 00:10:17,650 and if the lesson 234 00:10:11,860 --> 00:10:21,100 a leopard never changes its spots this 235 00:10:17,650 --> 00:10:23,800 is a bird is this a plane this is gonna 236 00:10:21,100 --> 00:10:25,450 be a boy is it going to be a girl and I 237 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:29,020 think we can safely say it's a bloody 238 00:10:25,450 --> 00:10:30,790 parasites this is the news that's Megan 239 00:10:29,020 --> 00:10:31,810 Markham no she's not even make a marker 240 00:10:30,790 --> 00:10:36,100 anymore is she really 241 00:10:31,810 --> 00:10:38,080 Megan wasn't the Duchess of wherever is 242 00:10:36,100 --> 00:10:40,660 having a baby with the Prince of someone 243 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:42,720 women has baby shot yes women has baby 244 00:10:40,660 --> 00:10:45,850 shocker so Megan and Harry are 245 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:48,820 collectively with child just a matter of 246 00:10:45,850 --> 00:10:52,120 weeks after they got married if I had a 247 00:10:48,820 --> 00:10:53,440 shotgun I'd have it's a hand and it 248 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,839 could be more come I never thought of 249 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:58,570 that do you think that might be well 250 00:10:55,839 --> 00:10:58,910 then with I mean it's alright 251 00:10:58,570 --> 00:11:00,710 the 252 00:10:58,910 --> 00:11:03,110 timing is interesting save lease because 253 00:11:00,710 --> 00:11:05,720 obviously they they've got married and 254 00:11:03,110 --> 00:11:08,450 then spring baby is coming along it's 255 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:10,370 also perfect isn't it and just in time 256 00:11:08,450 --> 00:11:12,110 for brick sir just in time for breakfast 257 00:11:10,370 --> 00:11:14,330 it baby and they've now been they've 258 00:11:12,110 --> 00:11:16,640 been just off to Australia now haven't 259 00:11:14,330 --> 00:11:17,300 they um where republicanism is on the 260 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,460 rise 261 00:11:17,300 --> 00:11:21,230 and obviously it's try and sort of quell 262 00:11:19,460 --> 00:11:24,350 the mass unrest with the wrong family 263 00:11:21,230 --> 00:11:27,710 over there their mothers such a cynic I 264 00:11:24,350 --> 00:11:30,650 feel happy a young couple very much in 265 00:11:27,710 --> 00:11:33,650 love I think it's a breath of fresh air 266 00:11:30,650 --> 00:11:37,550 we're going to see little rels nothing 267 00:11:33,650 --> 00:11:40,520 on it Rick oh good telly on little 268 00:11:37,550 --> 00:11:43,340 mixed-race children running around on 269 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:47,060 the Royal balcony if Prince Philip is 270 00:11:43,340 --> 00:11:47,840 still alive he'll probably die on a shot 271 00:11:47,060 --> 00:11:51,710 ooh 272 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:54,470 this is the first black person in the 273 00:11:51,710 --> 00:11:59,360 royal family first Roman Catholic in the 274 00:11:54,470 --> 00:12:02,270 Royal memory she seems like such star 275 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:04,490 quality they're really lucky to have her 276 00:12:02,270 --> 00:12:07,760 and she's turned out to be 277 00:12:04,490 --> 00:12:10,250 extraordinarily fertile I mean the door 278 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:14,780 has just closed on the honeymoon suite 279 00:12:10,250 --> 00:12:18,650 and she's in the club look right it's i 280 00:12:14,780 --> 00:12:21,320 mean i i'm deeply suspicious that okay 281 00:12:18,650 --> 00:12:23,870 lily allen has been accosted by the 282 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:26,510 mainstream press as it happens for 283 00:12:23,870 --> 00:12:28,790 tweeting that under no coincidence 284 00:12:26,510 --> 00:12:30,740 distract us all from brexit there's a 285 00:12:28,790 --> 00:12:33,890 role baby in the dance they just had sex 286 00:12:30,740 --> 00:12:35,300 actually it what do you think um I'm not 287 00:12:33,890 --> 00:12:37,700 sure if a turkey baster may have been 288 00:12:35,300 --> 00:12:39,860 involved but Lily Allen has been Keys 289 00:12:37,700 --> 00:12:41,330 accused of being a conspiracy theorist I 290 00:12:39,860 --> 00:12:44,120 never thought of any of these things 291 00:12:41,330 --> 00:12:46,220 she'd sit I just assumed it was the 292 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:48,470 natural consequence of their loving 293 00:12:46,220 --> 00:12:50,510 union look I have considered I was 294 00:12:48,470 --> 00:12:52,670 discussing this my wonderful girlfriend 295 00:12:50,510 --> 00:12:55,460 Nicola this morning before I came to 296 00:12:52,670 --> 00:12:57,020 film this show and Lily Alice minica has 297 00:12:55,460 --> 00:12:58,460 been in conspiracy theory saying that it 298 00:12:57,020 --> 00:13:00,080 was timed which as the Stratus from 299 00:12:58,460 --> 00:13:01,580 breakfast didn't really say that she was 300 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:04,010 just jokingly saying it but she's been 301 00:13:01,580 --> 00:13:06,890 widely condemned that there seems to be 302 00:13:04,010 --> 00:13:08,720 something about royal children coming 303 00:13:06,890 --> 00:13:10,940 quickly after a wedding it's almost as 304 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,860 if like they're told right you now have 305 00:13:10,940 --> 00:13:15,080 to have sex one arrow one 306 00:13:12,860 --> 00:13:17,240 spear but I think surely they do don't 307 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:20,600 they surely they're instructed so you 308 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:23,480 now have to have all these children this 309 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:26,570 check this child I mean she is 37 which 310 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:30,160 in medical terms is the geriatric mother 311 00:13:26,570 --> 00:13:35,450 that's literally what it's called yeah 312 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:38,660 so it is you know lucky that she got 313 00:13:35,450 --> 00:13:41,300 pregnant quite so quickly and I hope 314 00:13:38,660 --> 00:13:45,100 that they manage to squeeze more in or 315 00:13:41,300 --> 00:13:48,590 squeeze more out before before the end 316 00:13:45,100 --> 00:13:51,140 but there'll be 7th in line for the 317 00:13:48,590 --> 00:13:53,840 throne they won't be called prince or 318 00:13:51,140 --> 00:13:55,990 princess now of course it's another 319 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:58,700 mouth to feed but as mrs. May said 320 00:13:55,990 --> 00:14:00,860 austerity is over we can afford that we 321 00:13:58,700 --> 00:14:02,860 can afford it of course but there's a 322 00:14:00,860 --> 00:14:05,180 serious point briefly with this as well 323 00:14:02,860 --> 00:14:09,380 I'm anti-monarchist 324 00:14:05,180 --> 00:14:11,000 not for the earth if it's a surprise 325 00:14:09,380 --> 00:14:13,700 you should have seen the discussion 326 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:16,070 off-camera about this as well I am an 327 00:14:13,700 --> 00:14:17,600 auntie Monica's not for the weak flaccid 328 00:14:16,070 --> 00:14:18,680 arguments that a lot of Republicans make 329 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:21,200 which is all they cost US taxpayers 330 00:14:18,680 --> 00:14:23,270 money because that arguments so 331 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:25,010 debatable because the government 332 00:14:23,270 --> 00:14:26,870 finances show that because of tourism 333 00:14:25,010 --> 00:14:28,070 they bring in lots of money no that's a 334 00:14:26,870 --> 00:14:29,150 null and void argument and Auntie 335 00:14:28,070 --> 00:14:31,490 Monica's because they rent said 336 00:14:29,150 --> 00:14:34,400 everything's wrong with Britain in terms 337 00:14:31,490 --> 00:14:36,110 of the hierarchy that we live under in 338 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,520 the world for that matter this hierarchy 339 00:14:36,110 --> 00:14:38,810 we live under also that they involve 340 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,580 themselves in politics we're not 341 00:14:38,810 --> 00:14:42,650 supposed to if you remember the black 342 00:14:40,580 --> 00:14:46,310 spider letters from Prince Charles 343 00:14:42,650 --> 00:14:48,920 ultimately this robe a baby on a serious 344 00:14:46,310 --> 00:14:50,510 note is is I find it quite nauseating 345 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,730 not least because there was a report out 346 00:14:50,510 --> 00:14:55,010 yesterday which said the infant 347 00:14:52,730 --> 00:14:56,900 mortality numbers in this rate is now 4 348 00:14:55,010 --> 00:14:59,720 in 1,000 were in the EU 349 00:14:56,900 --> 00:15:02,180 it's 2.8 in 1,000 that's around 40% 350 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:04,100 higher infant mortality in this country 351 00:15:02,180 --> 00:15:05,270 than in the EU and the report says if we 352 00:15:04,100 --> 00:15:07,580 don't get it under control 353 00:15:05,270 --> 00:15:10,220 it'll to be a 140 percent higher by 354 00:15:07,580 --> 00:15:12,080 around 2030 we have a real issue in this 355 00:15:10,220 --> 00:15:14,000 country with poor children dying or what 356 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:16,460 we also have an issue with is as I wrote 357 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:18,410 that several months ago that the birth 358 00:15:16,460 --> 00:15:20,690 rates for the richest in this country 359 00:15:18,410 --> 00:15:22,370 are now skyrocketing while the birth 360 00:15:20,690 --> 00:15:23,660 rates for the poorest in society are 361 00:15:22,370 --> 00:15:25,520 actually dropping off so this whole 362 00:15:23,660 --> 00:15:26,960 notion of benefit scrounging families 363 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,550 having loads of children's 364 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,710 essentially bollocks and what we are 365 00:15:28,550 --> 00:15:32,180 seeing is a shift in the life and lower 366 00:15:30,710 --> 00:15:34,940 benefits grammar they are banned in 367 00:15:32,180 --> 00:15:37,190 there we don't cure at the DSS office 368 00:15:34,940 --> 00:15:40,610 conveys we're seeing a shift in this 369 00:15:37,190 --> 00:15:42,590 country of the richest cementing their 370 00:15:40,610 --> 00:15:45,230 hold in society by having more children 371 00:15:42,590 --> 00:15:47,030 know the mortality rates for them while 372 00:15:45,230 --> 00:15:48,770 the poorest in society via things like 373 00:15:47,030 --> 00:15:51,020 the two child rooms on tax credits and 374 00:15:48,770 --> 00:15:53,690 mortality rates for children are being 375 00:15:51,020 --> 00:15:55,880 stopped from reproducing and there's a 376 00:15:53,690 --> 00:15:58,700 real issue and for me the words it 377 00:15:55,880 --> 00:16:01,790 represents is eugenics that's what we're 378 00:15:58,700 --> 00:16:04,670 living under you Gerak's Eugenie Eugenie 379 00:16:01,790 --> 00:16:06,920 was the least successful royal wedding 380 00:16:04,670 --> 00:16:07,880 in history she married a tequila 381 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:11,150 salesman 382 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:14,690 Harry has married a working actress of 383 00:16:11,150 --> 00:16:17,210 color and previously at least of Roman 384 00:16:14,690 --> 00:16:19,580 Catholic faith I think it's all breaking 385 00:16:17,210 --> 00:16:23,200 down the country is going to the dogs 386 00:16:19,580 --> 00:16:23,200 and I think it's relics 387 00:16:23,580 --> 00:16:30,760 we now know that bus fools of Yemeni 388 00:16:27,730 --> 00:16:33,460 schoolchildren are not worth the hair on 389 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:37,390 the head of a Washington Post columnist 390 00:16:33,460 --> 00:16:41,350 the massacre of the innocents in Yemen 391 00:16:37,390 --> 00:16:45,430 has been now going on for four years a 392 00:16:41,350 --> 00:16:48,040 Saudi Arabian led coalition they call it 393 00:16:45,430 --> 00:16:50,620 though it wouldn't be able to lift a 394 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:53,470 finger in the Yemen without the full 395 00:16:50,620 --> 00:16:57,780 participation of British and American 396 00:16:53,470 --> 00:17:01,860 military hardware and military officers 397 00:16:57,780 --> 00:17:05,260 Yemen is now a disaster of biblical 398 00:17:01,860 --> 00:17:07,680 proportions not only have tens of 399 00:17:05,260 --> 00:17:11,170 thousands of people mainly women and 400 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:14,740 children being wiped out by bombs and 401 00:17:11,170 --> 00:17:18,430 missiles there's a cholera epidemic in 402 00:17:14,740 --> 00:17:22,750 the country the worst in more than 200 403 00:17:18,430 --> 00:17:25,959 years and the UN has just declared that 404 00:17:22,750 --> 00:17:29,380 there's a famine in Yemen which may be 405 00:17:25,959 --> 00:17:33,490 the worst famine in a century and I was 406 00:17:29,380 --> 00:17:37,480 by the way present at the last big 407 00:17:33,490 --> 00:17:41,080 famine in Ethiopia Eritrea Sudan in 408 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:44,110 sub-saharan Africa in the mid 1980s I 409 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:46,960 know what a famine looks like and smells 410 00:17:44,110 --> 00:17:49,930 like but that famine will be as nothing 411 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:53,920 to the famine that is now underway in 412 00:17:49,930 --> 00:17:58,210 Yemen we have struggled now all these 413 00:17:53,920 --> 00:18:00,370 years to get any Western journalist with 414 00:17:58,210 --> 00:18:02,620 a few honorable exceptions all ignorant 415 00:18:00,370 --> 00:18:05,080 of the NBC very good action our very 416 00:18:02,620 --> 00:18:07,180 good to get Western journalists 417 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:10,210 interested Western policymakers 418 00:18:07,180 --> 00:18:13,810 interested and completely failed and 419 00:18:10,210 --> 00:18:18,250 then along comes the mafia-style 420 00:18:13,810 --> 00:18:20,800 and gruesome hit on Jamal Ashanti the 421 00:18:18,250 --> 00:18:22,690 colonists of the Washington Post isn't 422 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:25,780 amazing when the rest of the world 423 00:18:22,690 --> 00:18:29,080 catches up with you and a date sky is 424 00:18:25,780 --> 00:18:32,890 kind of amazing and infuriating in equal 425 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:35,670 measure I have a vested interest in this 426 00:18:32,890 --> 00:18:37,920 because I was writing about yeah 427 00:18:35,670 --> 00:18:41,040 before anyone else bothered picking up 428 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:42,630 on our the middle of 2015 I started 429 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:45,660 writing about what was going on in Yemen 430 00:18:42,630 --> 00:18:48,750 and started shouting about it and as you 431 00:18:45,660 --> 00:18:50,850 say slowly it kind of drips into the 432 00:18:48,750 --> 00:18:54,840 mainstream press and now suddenly a 433 00:18:50,850 --> 00:18:56,730 salary and journalist is murdered that 434 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:58,050 dismembered allegedly still but of 435 00:18:56,730 --> 00:18:59,100 course it was an interrogation gone 436 00:18:58,050 --> 00:19:00,600 wrong 437 00:18:59,100 --> 00:19:03,000 yeah well I mean the killers just 438 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:04,800 happened to bring a bonus song where as 439 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:10,560 you know gay tree I've got one in my 440 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:13,230 pockets now as you do Club 18:30 having 441 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:17,160 your own beat which we shouldn't laugh 442 00:19:13,230 --> 00:19:18,750 it is gruesome 443 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:21,240 I mean even the Mafia would have balked 444 00:19:18,750 --> 00:19:24,690 at this hit yeah they lure the guy in 445 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:27,020 for his divorce papers they mother um 446 00:19:24,690 --> 00:19:29,880 allegedly on tape 447 00:19:27,020 --> 00:19:32,610 presumably because the Turks have bugged 448 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:35,250 the embassy as most countries but most 449 00:19:32,610 --> 00:19:38,130 people's embassies but maybe also 450 00:19:35,250 --> 00:19:40,800 because he had an Apple watch there are 451 00:19:38,130 --> 00:19:43,830 scientist on watch ladies and gentlemen 452 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:46,350 you'll be able to record your own demise 453 00:19:43,830 --> 00:19:49,890 just ask and then they cut him into 454 00:19:46,350 --> 00:19:53,130 pieces and carry DOMA in cake boxes into 455 00:19:49,890 --> 00:19:55,380 a van into a private jet because the 456 00:19:53,130 --> 00:19:57,810 Saudis always travel in private gentles 457 00:19:55,380 --> 00:20:00,470 and presumably disposal over the Empty 458 00:19:57,810 --> 00:20:04,500 Quarter somewhere near is a heinous 459 00:20:00,470 --> 00:20:07,020 almost unbelievable crime and against 460 00:20:04,500 --> 00:20:10,050 someone who was by the way no 461 00:20:07,020 --> 00:20:13,500 progressive this is a man keshavjee who 462 00:20:10,050 --> 00:20:17,150 supported the Saudi war on Syria which 463 00:20:13,500 --> 00:20:20,130 has dismembered I don't know how many 464 00:20:17,150 --> 00:20:23,130 hundreds of thousands of people who 465 00:20:20,130 --> 00:20:25,860 supported for a time the Saudi war on 466 00:20:23,130 --> 00:20:29,520 Yemen who support I was going to say 467 00:20:25,860 --> 00:20:32,220 supports no longer but supported the 468 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:35,400 Saudi royal dictatorship a system I mean 469 00:20:32,220 --> 00:20:39,390 so far is still not that it's a it did I 470 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:42,560 mean these the Saudi Arabia are 471 00:20:39,390 --> 00:20:45,180 essentially nine yaks they are absolute 472 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:47,400 my view was in all those public 473 00:20:45,180 --> 00:20:49,140 beheadings of people on Friday 474 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:51,720 afternoons in public 475 00:20:49,140 --> 00:20:53,850 it is the equivalent of us going to the 476 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,930 cinema it's I mean that there are 477 00:20:53,850 --> 00:20:56,550 absolute magnetics but you're quite 478 00:20:54,930 --> 00:20:57,870 right to point out that suddenly and now 479 00:20:56,550 --> 00:21:02,480 the interest is piqued 480 00:20:57,870 --> 00:21:06,420 in Yemen and Saudi Arabia's horrific 481 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:08,310 almost biblical style crimes that they 482 00:21:06,420 --> 00:21:09,390 commit suddenly everyone's going or what 483 00:21:08,310 --> 00:21:11,460 this isn't very good 484 00:21:09,390 --> 00:21:13,110 it's it and but I mean let's put this 485 00:21:11,460 --> 00:21:16,050 into context so she said the Yemen war 486 00:21:13,110 --> 00:21:17,880 since 2015 has been going on I hasten to 487 00:21:16,050 --> 00:21:19,800 call it a war really it's the same as 488 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:22,410 calling what happens in Gaza a war it's 489 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:25,770 not it's essentially an a genocide a 490 00:21:22,410 --> 00:21:28,320 paid for genocide by Western governments 491 00:21:25,770 --> 00:21:30,600 and we make notions in the ring with a 492 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:32,760 small baby yeah I mean so UK 493 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:34,620 government's so far running total four 494 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,620 point six billion worth of arms to Saudi 495 00:21:34,620 --> 00:21:38,790 Arabia's since this conflict began 496 00:21:36,620 --> 00:21:40,320 three-quarters of the population 21 497 00:21:38,790 --> 00:21:42,300 million people in Yemen are in need of 498 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,500 humanitarian aid as you say you and are 499 00:21:42,300 --> 00:21:45,000 predicting the worst famine in the 500 00:21:43,500 --> 00:21:48,060 hundred years which could affect 13 501 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:54,170 million people you've had estimates 502 00:21:48,060 --> 00:21:56,730 range from 7075 of 10,000 people killed 503 00:21:54,170 --> 00:22:00,150 the the figures are just staggering and 504 00:21:56,730 --> 00:22:02,790 within all this you have the UK's 505 00:22:00,150 --> 00:22:06,120 involvement which is for example the UN 506 00:22:02,790 --> 00:22:07,920 last year pinned at least 500 deaths of 507 00:22:06,120 --> 00:22:11,130 children specifically on Saudi 508 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:14,190 airstrikes these are planes so to Saudi 509 00:22:11,130 --> 00:22:16,620 Arabia and I think by the US and the 510 00:22:14,190 --> 00:22:18,090 bombs are the ones we sell to them were 511 00:22:16,620 --> 00:22:20,130 you as you quite rightly pointed out you 512 00:22:18,090 --> 00:22:23,250 have UK military personnel stationed in 513 00:22:20,130 --> 00:22:25,920 Saudi operation centers directing all of 514 00:22:23,250 --> 00:22:28,260 this and meanwhile the UK government and 515 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:30,060 put Saudi Arabia on it's 13 top 516 00:22:28,260 --> 00:22:31,890 countries for human rights abuses and 517 00:22:30,060 --> 00:22:33,660 yet still doesn't blink and harder to 518 00:22:31,890 --> 00:22:36,570 sell them all these weapons and involve 519 00:22:33,660 --> 00:22:39,300 itself in this conflict is it just that 520 00:22:36,570 --> 00:22:41,430 Steve they kiss the nose as a 521 00:22:39,300 --> 00:22:45,690 brotherhood from kissing the posterior 522 00:22:41,430 --> 00:22:49,110 of these barbarian yeah when this Crown 523 00:22:45,690 --> 00:22:52,710 Prince Mohammed bin Salman came to 524 00:22:49,110 --> 00:22:55,850 Britain then to New York Washington and 525 00:22:52,710 --> 00:23:00,720 Hollywood he was treated he was 526 00:22:55,850 --> 00:23:02,610 described as a rock star Prince his 527 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:05,250 picture was everywhere 528 00:23:02,610 --> 00:23:08,179 not just in paid advertising lor may 529 00:23:05,250 --> 00:23:13,100 have been paid under the counter in 530 00:23:08,179 --> 00:23:16,500 editorial from the Guardian to the Times 531 00:23:13,100 --> 00:23:19,710 newspaper after newspaper broadcaster 532 00:23:16,500 --> 00:23:23,450 after broadcaster healed this man as a 533 00:23:19,710 --> 00:23:27,179 rock star as a reformer as a man who was 534 00:23:23,450 --> 00:23:29,460 allowing Saudi women to drive but only 535 00:23:27,179 --> 00:23:32,720 if there was a male relative in the car 536 00:23:29,460 --> 00:23:38,330 and they could afford to do so of course 537 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:42,690 this man is he violent mafia style thug 538 00:23:38,330 --> 00:23:46,080 but all of our media class celebrated 539 00:23:42,690 --> 00:23:50,340 over him there and why not because of 540 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:52,919 the prophets peace be upon them but the 541 00:23:50,340 --> 00:23:59,070 prophets have a get piece of them and 542 00:23:52,919 --> 00:24:01,110 they could make up just when you thought 543 00:23:59,070 --> 00:24:04,230 it was safe to get back in the water 544 00:24:01,110 --> 00:24:07,380 just when you thought you'd ramped the 545 00:24:04,230 --> 00:24:11,640 dirt down just when you thought that the 546 00:24:07,380 --> 00:24:15,140 iron sarcophagus in which she's in 547 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:18,179 talent had rid us of Margaret Thatcher 548 00:24:15,140 --> 00:24:21,900 forever she's coming back on the fifty 549 00:24:18,179 --> 00:24:23,700 pound notes I mean there's some benefit 550 00:24:21,900 --> 00:24:25,559 to our being on the fifty pound note 551 00:24:23,700 --> 00:24:28,110 because it means the Bullingdon Club 552 00:24:25,559 --> 00:24:30,270 will not be an I set fire to them and 553 00:24:28,110 --> 00:24:33,870 wave them under the noses of homeless 554 00:24:30,270 --> 00:24:36,210 people in shop doorways and it means the 555 00:24:33,870 --> 00:24:39,870 only rich people will have to look at 556 00:24:36,210 --> 00:24:42,210 her yes but it's a sick reflection on 557 00:24:39,870 --> 00:24:45,059 our society that this is now a serious 558 00:24:42,210 --> 00:24:51,150 runner that Margaret Thatcher of the 559 00:24:45,059 --> 00:24:54,120 most disastrous record of social peace 560 00:24:51,150 --> 00:24:56,850 social fabric and industrial 561 00:24:54,120 --> 00:25:00,600 productivity and wealth in this country 562 00:24:56,850 --> 00:25:02,400 that there has ever been should maybe be 563 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:05,100 considered to appear on a banknote 564 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:06,780 yes absolutely I buy I watched you on 565 00:25:05,100 --> 00:25:10,020 good morning Britain on Tuesday morning 566 00:25:06,780 --> 00:25:13,140 with obvious with all goddess Johnson's 567 00:25:10,020 --> 00:25:13,860 oh yes yes God that double act is born 568 00:25:13,140 --> 00:25:17,100 well 569 00:25:13,860 --> 00:25:20,400 good grief not better than this one of 570 00:25:17,100 --> 00:25:21,299 clawful jello in Jo Louise Johnson no 571 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,700 thank you 572 00:25:21,299 --> 00:25:25,890 now I thought you were marvelous and in 573 00:25:23,700 --> 00:25:27,720 you summed up very nicely because it did 574 00:25:25,890 --> 00:25:29,880 and the piers morgan show is complete 575 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,830 lack of understanding it's what it 576 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:35,340 represents the fact that they would be 577 00:25:31,830 --> 00:25:38,040 willing to do this I mean you can stem 578 00:25:35,340 --> 00:25:41,070 nearly everything that's wrong with the 579 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:43,470 world in some respects on a sort of 580 00:25:41,070 --> 00:25:46,500 basic level you can stem it all back to 581 00:25:43,470 --> 00:25:49,890 her and Reagan defense and the ergonomic 582 00:25:46,500 --> 00:25:52,590 of cecile going on the Big Bang of 1986 583 00:25:49,890 --> 00:25:54,450 the deindustrialization of the North 584 00:25:52,590 --> 00:25:57,210 which still sees I read some interesting 585 00:25:54,450 --> 00:26:00,330 figures the other day between 2010 2016 586 00:25:57,210 --> 00:26:02,429 growth in London was 22% in the 587 00:26:00,330 --> 00:26:04,440 Northeast it was just 4% we are still 588 00:26:02,429 --> 00:26:07,350 seeing effects and factors such as 589 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:11,190 policies today and so somehow have this 590 00:26:07,350 --> 00:26:13,160 woman and honors on a 50-pound note 591 00:26:11,190 --> 00:26:16,530 which admittedly no one's going to have 592 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:17,610 it's a slap in the face to I mean it's 593 00:26:16,530 --> 00:26:18,900 hard to know where to begin with who 594 00:26:17,610 --> 00:26:20,580 it's a slap in the face to really 595 00:26:18,900 --> 00:26:22,140 whether you want to say the miners where 596 00:26:20,580 --> 00:26:24,360 do you want say to do northern 597 00:26:22,140 --> 00:26:27,710 communities where I every Irish whether 598 00:26:24,360 --> 00:26:30,419 you want to say they council house 599 00:26:27,710 --> 00:26:31,620 tenants it's it it's it's staggering 600 00:26:30,419 --> 00:26:35,010 that they would consider this but I 601 00:26:31,620 --> 00:26:37,110 think is it embodies the arrogant 602 00:26:35,010 --> 00:26:38,750 emboldened this as well of the 603 00:26:37,110 --> 00:26:41,040 establishment class of the minutes 604 00:26:38,750 --> 00:26:44,730 they're literally they're they're so 605 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:46,650 dogmatic and so sure of themselves in 606 00:26:44,730 --> 00:26:48,450 the path that they're putting us on that 607 00:26:46,650 --> 00:26:51,150 they would even consider suggesting that 608 00:26:48,450 --> 00:26:52,590 we can because as a petition launched 609 00:26:51,150 --> 00:26:55,350 isn't there as well - yeah it goes 610 00:26:52,590 --> 00:26:57,450 Treasury inspired I mean they're flying 611 00:26:55,350 --> 00:27:00,000 the kite to see if that's why I'm 612 00:26:57,450 --> 00:27:03,570 reacting so fiercely to it I think if 613 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:06,330 the public respond negatively in enough 614 00:27:03,570 --> 00:27:08,520 force we can ditch it yeah you might say 615 00:27:06,330 --> 00:27:10,290 what a victory would that be I didn't 616 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:13,799 know it matters it does matter eyes I 617 00:27:10,290 --> 00:27:18,450 think it doesn't sending a signal from 618 00:27:13,799 --> 00:27:23,640 the state that she and all her evil 619 00:27:18,450 --> 00:27:26,669 works is somehow respectable yes when I 620 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,370 had thought prior to her demise actually 621 00:27:26,669 --> 00:27:30,160 in 622 00:27:27,370 --> 00:27:34,480 gently the 12 million pound house in 623 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:38,230 which she died was registered in the 624 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:40,450 Panama jungle yeah in an if there had 625 00:27:38,230 --> 00:27:43,600 been Panama papers at the time she'd 626 00:27:40,450 --> 00:27:46,270 have been on it she was a tax dodger she 627 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:49,360 destroyed 30 percent of British 628 00:27:46,270 --> 00:27:52,000 manufacturing capacity she destroyed the 629 00:27:49,360 --> 00:27:54,010 coal industry and the lives of hundreds 630 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:56,740 of thousands of men women and children 631 00:27:54,010 --> 00:27:58,840 who depended on it she shot the steel 632 00:27:56,740 --> 00:28:01,840 industry the shipbuilding industry the 633 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:05,110 car industry them the motorbike I mean 634 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:08,020 she wrecked but she even stole milk from 635 00:28:05,110 --> 00:28:10,480 the hands as small schoolchildren but 636 00:28:08,020 --> 00:28:12,880 here's a point I spoke to one of the 637 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:15,460 young women in the good morning Britain 638 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:17,679 studio she asked me what I was in to 639 00:28:15,460 --> 00:28:21,670 talk about I said I was in to talk about 640 00:28:17,679 --> 00:28:25,480 Thatcher and the young woman looked at 641 00:28:21,670 --> 00:28:31,600 me with a lack of recognition hmm glazed 642 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:35,020 eyes such as the parlous state of public 643 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:38,380 education public grasp of current events 644 00:28:35,020 --> 00:28:41,530 and how we got here this young woman had 645 00:28:38,380 --> 00:28:44,470 never heard of Margaret Thatcher still 646 00:28:41,530 --> 00:28:47,950 less that Thatcher was one of the most 647 00:28:44,470 --> 00:28:49,870 wicked people that ever held office in 648 00:28:47,950 --> 00:28:53,710 this country and my goodness that's 649 00:28:49,870 --> 00:28:55,630 stiff competition that as she was in so 650 00:28:53,710 --> 00:29:00,490 you know if you think about it 651 00:28:55,630 --> 00:29:04,120 she left power twenty-eight nearly 30 652 00:29:00,490 --> 00:29:08,110 years ago that means you need before day 653 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:12,400 five actually and to remember just how 654 00:29:08,110 --> 00:29:14,830 awful she was unless like us we're not 655 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:17,230 45 but we read the history books 656 00:29:14,830 --> 00:29:18,940 we're doomed and that is it for this 657 00:29:17,230 --> 00:29:21,100 week's show we just want to say again 658 00:29:18,940 --> 00:29:23,440 thank you so much for all your comments 659 00:29:21,100 --> 00:29:25,690 we love saying them this was about our 660 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,090 clothes repeatedly about didn't 661 00:29:25,690 --> 00:29:29,440 different slight different shoes today 662 00:29:27,090 --> 00:29:33,190 fantastic shoes my only I think that's 663 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:35,140 your best hat ah I mean I really do 664 00:29:33,190 --> 00:29:37,570 think you haven't seen the one I've got 665 00:29:35,140 --> 00:29:39,340 planned for next week good grief but 666 00:29:37,570 --> 00:29:40,690 please keep your comments coming in and 667 00:29:39,340 --> 00:29:42,910 our subscribers are on the 668 00:29:40,690 --> 00:29:45,100 as well yeah people are loving of you 669 00:29:42,910 --> 00:29:47,230 the top of Galloway show so make sure 670 00:29:45,100 --> 00:29:49,360 you subscribe to us on patreon comport 671 00:29:47,230 --> 00:29:53,020 slash George Galloway and until next 672 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:55,870 week please take care of yourselves just 673 00:29:53,020 --> 00:29:58,240 one more thing again the saga with 674 00:29:55,870 --> 00:30:00,340 universal credit has been rolling on 675 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,560 this week with estimate vilas sorry 676 00:30:00,340 --> 00:30:03,970 estimate Vey now coming out and 677 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,920 admitting that delete comments in the 678 00:30:03,970 --> 00:30:08,590 time saying many families would be 200 679 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:10,840 pounds a month or worse off are actually 680 00:30:08,590 --> 00:30:12,940 true however she then stood up in 681 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:15,190 Parliament on Monday the 15th of October 682 00:30:12,940 --> 00:30:17,740 and when asked by Debbie Abraham's about 683 00:30:15,190 --> 00:30:20,140 this her response was but but but but 684 00:30:17,740 --> 00:30:22,750 but more people are doing work if they 685 00:30:20,140 --> 00:30:24,610 do more work they'll be fine this is the 686 00:30:22,750 --> 00:30:26,770 most ludicrous answer I've heard out 687 00:30:24,610 --> 00:30:28,510 this woman's mouth yet that by somehow 688 00:30:26,770 --> 00:30:30,040 cutting people's benefits they're going 689 00:30:28,510 --> 00:30:31,540 to be protected because they're going to 690 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,890 have to do more work now we all know 691 00:30:31,540 --> 00:30:35,140 this was of course the point of 692 00:30:32,890 --> 00:30:37,600 universal credit though it was the force 693 00:30:35,140 --> 00:30:39,640 millions of sick and disabled people and 694 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:42,220 those who are have limited capability of 695 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,780 working back into work however the fact 696 00:30:42,220 --> 00:30:45,070 she admits that in Parliament is 697 00:30:43,780 --> 00:30:47,350 absolutely staggering 698 00:30:45,070 --> 00:30:48,670 and suddenly the mainstream press has 699 00:30:47,350 --> 00:30:50,620 caught up with the rest of us as well 700 00:30:48,670 --> 00:30:52,210 they are now all over it but this is not 701 00:30:50,620 --> 00:30:54,100 enough we need to be campaigning 702 00:30:52,210 --> 00:30:56,830 campaigning campaigning on this issue 703 00:30:54,100 --> 00:31:02,320 Universal Credit has to go stop scrapped 704 00:30:56,830 --> 00:31:04,420 now just one more thing the state of the 705 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,820 British Conservative Party I've spent an 706 00:31:04,420 --> 00:31:09,760 unusual amount of time this week in the 707 00:31:06,820 --> 00:31:11,950 company of right-wing and establishment 708 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:14,980 journalists who just a few weeks ago 709 00:31:11,950 --> 00:31:17,860 were seeing that treasom a resilient 710 00:31:14,980 --> 00:31:21,970 resume would tough it out and see us 711 00:31:17,860 --> 00:31:25,720 through actually at the very second the 712 00:31:21,970 --> 00:31:29,110 Arats heart stops beating all the 713 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:32,680 parasites living on the rat depart from 714 00:31:29,110 --> 00:31:36,700 the corpse that has begun to happen and 715 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:41,130 who do they think is going to be the 716 00:31:36,700 --> 00:31:45,400 next unelected Prime Minister of Britain 717 00:31:41,130 --> 00:31:48,910 Jeremy Hunt I'm not making that up the 718 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:51,400 man who made such a success of the 719 00:31:48,910 --> 00:31:53,850 National Health Service who turned the 720 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:56,970 entire medical profession from 721 00:31:53,850 --> 00:32:01,020 Royal Colleges - the militants of unison 722 00:31:56,970 --> 00:32:03,870 against him he is going to be your next 723 00:32:01,020 --> 00:32:07,429 Prime Minister remember you held it here 724 00:32:03,870 --> 00:32:07,429 on top of Galloway 725 00:32:08,870 --> 00:32:14,119 [Music]