1 00:00:01,909 --> 00:00:09,540 yes please - please - I really would 2 00:00:05,190 --> 00:00:15,690 appreciate it it's it's 30 what am I 3 00:00:09,540 --> 00:00:20,400 talking now I'm talking 30 36 years ago 4 00:00:15,690 --> 00:00:26,369 I became a member of the N um so I'd 5 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:29,070 love to see anyone still around I do 6 00:00:26,369 --> 00:00:31,800 I've been a member of parliament in 7 00:00:29,070 --> 00:00:36,000 Wales I stood for the nomination and 8 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:38,250 Rhonda and I got more nominations than 9 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:40,980 all the other candidates put together 10 00:00:38,250 --> 00:00:42,989 and the supporters of all the other 11 00:00:40,980 --> 00:00:45,690 candidates combined to keep me off the 12 00:00:42,989 --> 00:00:49,160 shortlist a good old welsh labour 13 00:00:45,690 --> 00:00:53,460 fixit's and who we left with them 14 00:00:49,160 --> 00:01:03,780 Christmas Chris Brian yes less said 15 00:00:53,460 --> 00:01:06,270 about him the better well I wouldn't say 16 00:01:03,780 --> 00:01:09,240 flattered it's our privilege and 17 00:01:06,270 --> 00:01:11,970 pleasure to be there but there was only 18 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:14,610 room in the schedule for one stop in 19 00:01:11,970 --> 00:01:16,560 Wales and I wanted it to be in the 20 00:01:14,610 --> 00:01:19,110 valleys because of my previous 21 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:21,840 connection they are the last time I 22 00:01:19,110 --> 00:01:24,869 spoke in Leith was with the late and 23 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:27,689 great Tony Benn who organized the 24 00:01:24,869 --> 00:01:31,170 meeting on as close to the round as he 25 00:01:27,689 --> 00:01:35,659 could get to show his support for me now 26 00:01:31,170 --> 00:01:35,659 we're talking back in 1982 27 00:01:43,260 --> 00:01:46,349 [Music] 28 00:01:46,539 --> 00:01:52,479 well I don't know we could expect from 29 00:01:49,130 --> 00:01:54,950 him he'll tell you but I'll be of course 30 00:01:52,479 --> 00:01:58,729 strolling a little bit down memory lane 31 00:01:54,950 --> 00:02:03,909 and talking about the South Wales that 32 00:01:58,729 --> 00:02:06,729 was and is now and how we got there from 33 00:02:03,909 --> 00:02:10,660 one of the great workshops of the world 34 00:02:06,729 --> 00:02:14,900 to industrial dereliction and 35 00:02:10,660 --> 00:02:18,200 hopelessness underemployment low pay 36 00:02:14,900 --> 00:02:21,739 poor public services all the things that 37 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:24,110 afflict Britain's post-industrial areas 38 00:02:21,739 --> 00:02:25,489 but I've been looking forward to moving 39 00:02:24,110 --> 00:02:28,610 forward to a general election which 40 00:02:25,489 --> 00:02:30,590 might come sooner than we think talking 41 00:02:28,610 --> 00:02:34,430 about the impact or brexit what 42 00:02:30,590 --> 00:02:37,819 opportunities it can provide if we seize 43 00:02:34,430 --> 00:02:42,470 them and looking at Jeremy Corbyn 44 00:02:37,819 --> 00:02:44,510 because of course I've been standing 45 00:02:42,470 --> 00:02:47,150 beside Jeremy Corbyn on the streets and 46 00:02:44,510 --> 00:02:55,269 then Parliament for the best part of 40 47 00:02:47,150 --> 00:02:58,430 years yeah they'll be laughs as well 48 00:02:55,269 --> 00:03:00,590 Steve Steve is a very entertaining guy 49 00:02:58,430 --> 00:03:05,510 the last time he appeared on stage well 50 00:03:00,590 --> 00:03:07,450 we have Jesus I was yes I I have a 51 00:03:05,510 --> 00:03:09,889 colorful history of treading the boards 52 00:03:07,450 --> 00:03:12,109 that are the last time I was on stage I 53 00:03:09,889 --> 00:03:16,220 was 16 and I played Jesus in Godspell 54 00:03:12,109 --> 00:03:17,870 the musical so and no one would kind of 55 00:03:16,220 --> 00:03:20,690 resurrection yes Johnny 56 00:03:17,870 --> 00:03:23,000 yes John the Baptist maybe this time but 57 00:03:20,690 --> 00:03:25,669 yes so so a bit of a bit of a return to 58 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:27,980 form for me as it whatever no from 59 00:03:25,669 --> 00:03:29,959 myself I think you can expect some 60 00:03:27,980 --> 00:03:32,209 background as to how I ended up on a 61 00:03:29,959 --> 00:03:34,099 political journalist and broadcaster I 62 00:03:32,209 --> 00:03:35,720 have a long history in my family of 63 00:03:34,099 --> 00:03:37,850 political activity something I don't 64 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:40,760 really come into myself until I was 65 00:03:37,850 --> 00:03:42,830 early thirties actually and then George 66 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:46,250 will be as he said discussing brexit 67 00:03:42,830 --> 00:03:48,410 future of the UK boson geopolitics as 68 00:03:46,250 --> 00:03:50,030 well what's going on in the world and 69 00:03:48,410 --> 00:03:52,700 the future where we move forward from 70 00:03:50,030 --> 00:03:55,070 here because politics is a an extremely 71 00:03:52,700 --> 00:03:57,200 polarized time at the moments that the 72 00:03:55,070 --> 00:04:01,010 world is in a lot of political upheaval 73 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:03,860 and across its four corners and my might 74 00:04:01,010 --> 00:04:05,060 we mentioned Trump the the great orange 75 00:04:03,860 --> 00:04:06,710 but we myself 76 00:04:05,060 --> 00:04:09,650 yes Trump which I'm glad you mentioned 77 00:04:06,710 --> 00:04:18,500 that smites the the may bot as well then 78 00:04:09,650 --> 00:04:20,840 we'll we'll have some sky so we are to 79 00:04:18,500 --> 00:04:25,100 be going on at least until the general 80 00:04:20,840 --> 00:04:27,650 election is quote we're making our way 81 00:04:25,100 --> 00:04:31,220 south at the minute so we'll probably 82 00:04:27,650 --> 00:04:33,380 have some dates around the southeast the 83 00:04:31,220 --> 00:04:41,540 Southwest and then finishing up in 84 00:04:33,380 --> 00:04:46,990 London oh yeah thank you so much Gwen 85 00:04:41,540 --> 00:04:46,990 Hall on Saturday be there or be square 86 00:04:58,570 --> 00:05:16,460 fantastic we look forward to seeing you 87 00:05:02,380 --> 00:05:22,060 don't forget the - thanks a lot thank 88 00:05:16,460 --> 00:05:22,060 you for that excellent thank you 89 00:05:23,830 --> 00:05:26,920 [Music] 90 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:37,899 [Music] 91 00:05:48,300 --> 00:05:53,830 wait the waiter excuse me 92 00:05:51,790 --> 00:05:56,430 and it's just that you're not just I 93 00:05:53,830 --> 00:06:00,940 mean you can literally what's amazing is 94 00:05:56,430 --> 00:06:04,210 he was flying to Wilson why do you have 95 00:06:00,940 --> 00:06:18,250 to be over the Channel Islands yeah to 96 00:06:04,210 --> 00:06:24,070 us 15 million but privately my idea was 97 00:06:18,250 --> 00:06:26,470 that yeah small plane like to play me 98 00:06:24,070 --> 00:06:36,729 you might just prize me on to such a 99 00:06:26,470 --> 00:06:39,790 place amidst our way later for nothing 100 00:06:36,729 --> 00:06:44,460 by the time they left well as it must be 101 00:06:39,790 --> 00:06:44,460 done in the sea these different dead 102 00:06:46,740 --> 00:06:49,869 [Music] 103 00:06:51,479 --> 00:07:05,740 they've never paid 50 million for a 104 00:06:54,039 --> 00:07:06,910 clear Thursday the government just think 105 00:07:05,740 --> 00:07:10,539 it's a long story 106 00:07:06,910 --> 00:07:14,550 yeah Karren Brady has said that it is 107 00:07:10,539 --> 00:07:14,550 nothing to do to practice it briefly 108 00:07:15,210 --> 00:07:22,690 well as half an Irishman I'm it tells 109 00:07:19,330 --> 00:07:28,870 seven to started from here if you ask me 110 00:07:22,690 --> 00:07:32,800 the way to go the fact that brexit 111 00:07:28,870 --> 00:07:35,350 throws up a constitutional conundrum or 112 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:36,100 even crisis is a good thing so far 113 00:07:35,350 --> 00:07:38,800 Hankinson 114 00:07:36,100 --> 00:07:41,590 because it forces the people in the 115 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:43,480 north while to focus on the fact that 116 00:07:41,590 --> 00:07:46,990 their island should never have been 117 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:49,330 divided in the first place to reunite 118 00:07:46,990 --> 00:07:51,060 and if the majority of people in 119 00:07:49,330 --> 00:07:54,180 northern island want to remain in the EU 120 00:07:51,060 --> 00:07:59,140 well there's a very easy way to do it 121 00:07:54,180 --> 00:08:02,700 hold the border for and vote to reunite 122 00:07:59,140 --> 00:08:05,410 the country the proper order between 123 00:08:02,700 --> 00:08:07,300 Ireland and Britain is in the middle of 124 00:08:05,410 --> 00:08:09,460 the Irish Sea and the proper part of the 125 00:08:07,300 --> 00:08:13,930 children I think new is an amendment by 126 00:08:09,460 --> 00:08:15,910 RC vehicles of the life yeah yeah I 127 00:08:13,930 --> 00:08:22,150 don't understand why I'm not allowed to 128 00:08:15,910 --> 00:08:25,470 drink tea on this show it's an 129 00:08:22,150 --> 00:08:25,470 attractive because ok 130 00:08:25,890 --> 00:08:41,979 Tunnock's teacakes can be enough but not 131 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:44,560 iike okay no I'm George Galloway I'm 132 00:08:41,979 --> 00:08:46,420 Steve all together we are toppled 133 00:08:44,560 --> 00:08:50,290 Galloway here every week at this time 134 00:08:46,420 --> 00:08:54,670 bringing you some left-field some zany 135 00:08:50,290 --> 00:08:56,980 but definitely never boring ruminations 136 00:08:54,670 --> 00:09:00,790 on the issues of the day 137 00:08:56,980 --> 00:09:04,720 now if you go down to the woods prepare 138 00:09:00,790 --> 00:09:07,510 for a big surprise the 97 year old Duke 139 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:10,270 of Edinburgh not wearing a seat well 140 00:09:07,510 --> 00:09:13,960 driving a presumably bulletproof 141 00:09:10,270 --> 00:09:17,050 bomb-proof ie super happy for bad for 142 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:18,630 bailing down on you what did you make of 143 00:09:17,050 --> 00:09:21,160 that story 144 00:09:18,630 --> 00:09:23,080 but why you described it and I'm sure 145 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:25,750 what story we're talking about there's 146 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:27,370 been a bearing down on you a sense that 147 00:09:25,750 --> 00:09:30,429 something got well it's not something 148 00:09:27,370 --> 00:09:32,079 the Queen experience is better 149 00:09:30,429 --> 00:09:33,489 I think you need to know ready she got 150 00:09:32,079 --> 00:09:35,889 well they know breakfast together 151 00:09:33,489 --> 00:09:38,679 anymore okay we long ago knew that they 152 00:09:35,889 --> 00:09:43,689 had didn't sleep together because about 153 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:47,230 40 years ago a man appeared her bed size 154 00:09:43,689 --> 00:09:48,850 that's why she sat talking to mmm nice 155 00:09:47,230 --> 00:09:52,209 action she had during the nights of 156 00:09:48,850 --> 00:09:54,009 Guatemala obviously you have been some 157 00:09:52,209 --> 00:09:56,139 time since there was a man of more 158 00:09:54,009 --> 00:09:57,819 bedchamber but if so when you already 159 00:09:56,139 --> 00:09:59,829 didn't sleep together loud we know they 160 00:09:57,819 --> 00:10:01,239 don't breakfast together and clearly 161 00:09:59,829 --> 00:10:05,679 he's out of control 162 00:10:01,239 --> 00:10:08,860 yeah why is he driving alone in a 4x4 as 163 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:09,939 I said presumably super heavy not even 164 00:10:08,860 --> 00:10:12,360 wearing a seat belt 165 00:10:09,939 --> 00:10:15,790 crashing into a family with children 166 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:19,569 nearly killing everyone in both vehicles 167 00:10:15,790 --> 00:10:22,449 and the next game he takes delivery of a 168 00:10:19,569 --> 00:10:25,179 replacement for my form and is out 169 00:10:22,449 --> 00:10:27,009 driving again well that scenario is 170 00:10:25,179 --> 00:10:29,259 absolutely staggering isn't it I mean 171 00:10:27,009 --> 00:10:32,259 there was a lot of the babe C coverage 172 00:10:29,259 --> 00:10:34,660 of this was quite nauseating I mean if 173 00:10:32,259 --> 00:10:36,069 it had been any other man I can give you 174 00:10:34,660 --> 00:10:37,809 a perfect example actually except the 175 00:10:36,069 --> 00:10:41,980 road from where I was it was Corbin that 176 00:10:37,809 --> 00:10:43,899 was driving the top right Kent dad tried 177 00:10:41,980 --> 00:10:45,730 to think actually hit with a bit the 178 00:10:43,899 --> 00:10:47,439 headlines has been polling am NOT the 179 00:10:45,730 --> 00:10:56,799 even drives a car and if he did it 180 00:10:47,439 --> 00:11:00,249 wouldn't be a 4x4 in open and the 181 00:10:56,799 --> 00:11:02,410 Trabant is proven yes thanks except you 182 00:11:00,249 --> 00:11:04,749 can have um no if you have been anyone 183 00:11:02,410 --> 00:11:07,209 else because just up the road from me in 184 00:11:04,749 --> 00:11:10,329 South London a young lady in Tarrant 185 00:11:07,209 --> 00:11:12,759 month-old baby were killed and a few few 186 00:11:10,329 --> 00:11:15,100 days ago it was not getting around the 187 00:11:12,759 --> 00:11:17,139 drivers stopped immediately there was no 188 00:11:15,100 --> 00:11:19,149 indication that drivers done anything 189 00:11:17,139 --> 00:11:20,709 wrong and but obviously there's been a 190 00:11:19,149 --> 00:11:22,509 big who harbored lots of people have 191 00:11:20,709 --> 00:11:24,429 been asking questions about drivers and 192 00:11:22,509 --> 00:11:27,610 they were banging him and yet this is 193 00:11:24,429 --> 00:11:30,489 Prince Phillip the sort of the way the 194 00:11:27,610 --> 00:11:33,879 Overton Window works is that the onus is 195 00:11:30,489 --> 00:11:36,170 all be on poor Prince Phillip oh and but 196 00:11:33,879 --> 00:11:39,970 it somehow it's a still wonderful news 197 00:11:36,170 --> 00:11:43,730 well radio stations went into a kind of 198 00:11:39,970 --> 00:11:46,490 pre sort to tell you the spell but there 199 00:11:43,730 --> 00:11:50,090 is a protocol for when you eventually 200 00:11:46,490 --> 00:11:52,160 die and radios have a procedure for 201 00:11:50,090 --> 00:11:54,590 going in basically into the National 202 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:57,980 Mall second some press as soon as this 203 00:11:54,590 --> 00:12:01,310 news came through it's 97 hanging out of 204 00:11:57,980 --> 00:12:04,790 his religion over with the the vehicle 205 00:12:01,310 --> 00:12:06,650 on its side you know it was scramble and 206 00:12:04,790 --> 00:12:08,300 while the protocol what we're going 207 00:12:06,650 --> 00:12:09,980 because presumably he's not going to 208 00:12:08,300 --> 00:12:13,040 survive it it was all about him 209 00:12:09,980 --> 00:12:15,230 yeah whilst it turns out that a woman 210 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:19,190 broke her wrist there was a nine month 211 00:12:15,230 --> 00:12:23,240 old baby in the back of her car I mean I 212 00:12:19,190 --> 00:12:25,940 want to know several things was his 213 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:28,820 royal palaces Johannes I think I'm 214 00:12:25,940 --> 00:12:30,830 nervous in the quasi-war she's your 215 00:12:28,820 --> 00:12:33,190 majesty she's the only know he is H 216 00:12:30,830 --> 00:12:35,650 alright thank you yeah that's a she was 217 00:12:33,190 --> 00:12:40,700 His Royal Highness 218 00:12:35,650 --> 00:12:43,040 breathalyzed hmm what was the result was 219 00:12:40,700 --> 00:12:47,300 His Royal Highness driving with due care 220 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:50,710 and attention was he guilty of reckless 221 00:12:47,300 --> 00:12:56,600 driving was he wearing a seat belt and 222 00:12:50,710 --> 00:12:58,520 is His Royal Highness insured think 223 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:01,730 about has he got a direct line 224 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:06,080 hahaha some big ass popping up every 225 00:13:01,730 --> 00:13:07,580 year I think this man is a really 226 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:10,970 interesting question actually but more I 227 00:13:07,580 --> 00:13:14,390 want to know what what's he doing out to 228 00:13:10,970 --> 00:13:17,000 design yeah I thought that surely their 229 00:13:14,390 --> 00:13:19,730 security briefing sure machine for this 230 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:22,100 you know where was it well I mean it did 231 00:13:19,730 --> 00:13:25,340 was he was he popping off to his local 232 00:13:22,100 --> 00:13:26,720 tesco Express to get a bottle honey be 233 00:13:25,340 --> 00:13:31,490 like 234 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:32,660 allegedly by pity the masseuse baguette 235 00:13:31,490 --> 00:13:35,240 want to see on his own 236 00:13:32,660 --> 00:13:37,430 that's very peculiar and then what was 237 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:39,500 also fascinating was yet Nick which'll 238 00:13:37,430 --> 00:13:43,040 would say Alberta Partridge epistle 239 00:13:39,500 --> 00:13:45,860 drugs yes you have Nick which show the 240 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:51,610 the Royals sick of aunt or correspondent 241 00:13:45,860 --> 00:13:53,990 is known on BBC came a Scholastic yes 242 00:13:51,610 --> 00:13:56,360 talking about the do obviously questions 243 00:13:53,990 --> 00:13:57,980 will be asked but yet and the wrong 244 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:00,080 family did their usual stiff upper lip 245 00:13:57,980 --> 00:14:01,190 and no one made a fast and etc of course 246 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,600 they don't wanna make a fuss because 247 00:14:01,190 --> 00:14:04,130 there's now huge questions over whether 248 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:06,290 he should be driving why I was out in 249 00:14:04,130 --> 00:14:09,500 the zone whoever I think it kind of 250 00:14:06,290 --> 00:14:12,680 should open up a broader debate moreover 251 00:14:09,500 --> 00:14:14,630 I think for me about whether people over 252 00:14:12,680 --> 00:14:16,970 a certain age should have regular 253 00:14:14,630 --> 00:14:18,500 updates with regards to their tests in 254 00:14:16,970 --> 00:14:20,090 the driving abilities no disrespect to 255 00:14:18,500 --> 00:14:21,770 anyone in the certain language no but 256 00:14:20,090 --> 00:14:24,320 that was so much too and that ninety 257 00:14:21,770 --> 00:14:27,830 seven stable to be driving and driving a 258 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:29,270 powerful car yeah on an evil he could 259 00:14:27,830 --> 00:14:32,150 drive around some if it's not as if he's 260 00:14:29,270 --> 00:14:33,950 short of land he could drive around his 261 00:14:32,150 --> 00:14:36,530 own land till his heart's content 262 00:14:33,950 --> 00:14:38,870 because I thought it was a podium clap 263 00:14:36,530 --> 00:14:41,390 for them because I've seen them with the 264 00:14:38,870 --> 00:14:44,810 top happen upon the intra yeah but it 265 00:14:41,390 --> 00:14:46,310 turns out he likes a powerful 4x4 no 266 00:14:44,810 --> 00:14:49,400 here's an interesting point that was 267 00:14:46,310 --> 00:14:51,040 made to be just the other thing I can 268 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:54,200 never not by him 269 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:56,960 the Queen was pictured Oh without a seat 270 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:59,660 belt the next day but she cannot be 271 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:04,910 prosecuted why because you could not 272 00:14:59,660 --> 00:15:09,560 have the vagina verses you think about 273 00:15:04,910 --> 00:15:14,150 you doctor prosecutor self on the black 274 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:16,100 cap no alternative but is sentence you 275 00:15:14,150 --> 00:15:18,260 to the maximum incentive 276 00:15:16,100 --> 00:15:21,680 well George you know my thoughts on this 277 00:15:18,260 --> 00:15:23,360 in the monarchy and I have one solution 278 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,050 to all this which of course off with 279 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,660 their heads 280 00:15:24,050 --> 00:15:27,220 no I'm against that I like the Queen I 281 00:15:26,660 --> 00:15:29,380 even 282 00:15:27,220 --> 00:15:32,440 the Duke of Edinburgh actually but this 283 00:15:29,380 --> 00:15:34,660 ought to be the last it's a lot like mom 284 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:37,090 but after you 285 00:15:34,660 --> 00:15:40,240 we really need a referendum on whether 286 00:15:37,090 --> 00:15:42,280 we should be a republic yeah I'll type 287 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:46,120 that one otherwise Charles will be 288 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:49,170 driving our women's 97 Moines is is I 289 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:55,840 thought we boys I see severs it's done 290 00:15:49,170 --> 00:15:58,210 he's well it's easy so dick just any so 291 00:15:55,840 --> 00:16:01,180 did but I still think they'll jump him 292 00:15:58,210 --> 00:16:06,310 and go straight to William I can't see 293 00:16:01,180 --> 00:16:09,850 this oh sure Leo will allow any good to 294 00:16:06,310 --> 00:16:17,430 jump me because she wants she wants her 295 00:16:09,850 --> 00:16:17,430 day in the Sun as the norm Queen yes 296 00:16:26,210 --> 00:16:29,330 [Music] 297 00:16:34,730 --> 00:16:37,809 [Music] 298 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:48,220 that was devastated I've got I must have 299 00:16:43,900 --> 00:16:51,280 about 15 pairs of converse the high-top 300 00:16:48,220 --> 00:16:52,660 type and then trees a name who's wearing 301 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,810 [ __ ] converse on their summer 302 00:16:52,660 --> 00:16:54,810 holidays 303 00:17:38,860 --> 00:18:11,150 yeah yeah almost kept off the shortlist 304 00:18:08,210 --> 00:18:16,780 the guy who had more nominations not all 305 00:18:11,150 --> 00:18:19,250 of them put together I'm surprising you 306 00:18:16,780 --> 00:18:28,250 I might have been sitting here lower 307 00:18:19,250 --> 00:18:30,320 talking in a well shadow said boy I have 308 00:18:28,250 --> 00:18:33,920 an apology to make on this week some 309 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:37,510 topple Galileo I do yes I I made a fatal 310 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:40,700 error in one of my other broad casting 311 00:18:37,510 --> 00:18:42,140 outlets topple hum caves my aunt asked 312 00:18:40,700 --> 00:18:44,150 for the canary I mean Thank You Larry 313 00:18:42,140 --> 00:18:46,160 two weeks ago installation as I said 314 00:18:44,150 --> 00:18:48,110 that I thought Fiona Bruce was living 315 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:51,080 quite a good job on BBC question time 316 00:18:48,110 --> 00:18:52,460 out laughing wrong I was because after 317 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:56,360 last week's episode there has been a 318 00:18:52,460 --> 00:18:58,010 four or a over the treatment of dialysis 319 00:18:56,360 --> 00:18:59,809 wasn't there George specifically or NASA 320 00:18:58,010 --> 00:19:00,179 was question time you know Bruce might 321 00:18:59,809 --> 00:19:03,990 have to 322 00:19:00,179 --> 00:19:06,509 Oh already get to show the this storm 323 00:19:03,990 --> 00:19:08,070 and storm surrounded the fact firstly 324 00:19:06,509 --> 00:19:10,409 there was an audience members came 325 00:19:08,070 --> 00:19:12,330 forward and said that in the warm-up to 326 00:19:10,409 --> 00:19:14,490 the show if you like and very Bruce made 327 00:19:12,330 --> 00:19:16,710 some comments about by another's not 328 00:19:14,490 --> 00:19:17,879 least allegedly by the way allegedly be 329 00:19:16,710 --> 00:19:18,899 perceived tonight this happened but 330 00:19:17,879 --> 00:19:20,730 several people came forward and said 331 00:19:18,899 --> 00:19:22,440 well they can prove it by releasing the 332 00:19:20,730 --> 00:19:24,059 footage that can do it exactly which I 333 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:26,580 don't think they'll do a very brief 334 00:19:24,059 --> 00:19:27,600 allegedly said that you can basically 335 00:19:26,580 --> 00:19:29,759 live at all 336 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:31,320 she was this getting the parlor on Diane 337 00:19:29,759 --> 00:19:33,210 a vertical edge of being an entropy I'm 338 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:35,549 saying that you can tell her what you 339 00:19:33,210 --> 00:19:37,230 really think about almonds implying well 340 00:19:35,549 --> 00:19:39,509 she probably said outright the diner but 341 00:19:37,230 --> 00:19:41,549 only got her shadow China command post 342 00:19:39,509 --> 00:19:43,679 because of um her relationship with 343 00:19:41,549 --> 00:19:45,509 Jeremy Corbyn wink-wink nudge-nudge was 344 00:19:43,679 --> 00:19:47,700 gradually what she says to the audience 345 00:19:45,509 --> 00:19:51,090 and then of course of the storm over 346 00:19:47,700 --> 00:19:53,519 polling the debate during the show where 347 00:19:51,090 --> 00:19:55,440 Fiona Bruce back no room no room for 348 00:19:53,519 --> 00:19:59,490 debate on that was no there isn't 349 00:19:55,440 --> 00:20:03,840 they were auction and Bruce with all 350 00:19:59,490 --> 00:20:05,129 their smug upper-class complacency were 351 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:07,559 completely wrong 352 00:20:05,129 --> 00:20:10,200 yeah and Diane Abbott was completely 353 00:20:07,559 --> 00:20:12,629 right yeah so next week show better 354 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:16,350 start with a fulsome 355 00:20:12,629 --> 00:20:18,269 apology to Diana for that point about 356 00:20:16,350 --> 00:20:20,100 the pooling yeah we'll come back I'm 357 00:20:18,269 --> 00:20:22,499 sure to what was said in the Walmart 358 00:20:20,100 --> 00:20:24,539 yeah because the I mean yeah exactly 359 00:20:22,499 --> 00:20:27,259 it was blatantly untrue what they said 360 00:20:24,539 --> 00:20:30,600 because the pan Tory thinks and dr. 361 00:20:27,259 --> 00:20:32,759 Clark put out a tweet it was rather good 362 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:34,830 showing the most recent polling it's 363 00:20:32,759 --> 00:20:36,570 only you couple comrades who put the 364 00:20:34,830 --> 00:20:38,340 Tories ahead and the other has six or 365 00:20:36,570 --> 00:20:40,169 seven pollsters all had labourer heads 366 00:20:38,340 --> 00:20:42,389 or equal to the toys and in conference 367 00:20:40,169 --> 00:20:44,309 stories were ended one it was you know 368 00:20:42,389 --> 00:20:47,369 pile of self yeah and they're always 369 00:20:44,309 --> 00:20:49,350 ahead of you go mounted by the Tories 370 00:20:47,369 --> 00:20:51,330 would leave you go founded by the 371 00:20:49,350 --> 00:20:55,710 tourists all parturient 372 00:20:51,330 --> 00:20:57,029 Nazim and the truth is if you believed 373 00:20:55,710 --> 00:20:58,740 you govern 374 00:20:57,029 --> 00:21:00,240 Clues you may we'll be sitting in 375 00:20:58,740 --> 00:21:03,809 Parliament with a landslide majority 376 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:06,750 behind yes but form a George I mean this 377 00:21:03,809 --> 00:21:08,850 was I I had I had no hopes 378 00:21:06,750 --> 00:21:10,470 like that Fiona Bruce was going to be a 379 00:21:08,850 --> 00:21:12,060 new broom a question time there's all 380 00:21:10,470 --> 00:21:13,590 those chats because they're only there 381 00:21:12,060 --> 00:21:15,150 merely fiddling around with the front 382 00:21:13,590 --> 00:21:18,360 face of it it's not change the 383 00:21:15,150 --> 00:21:20,340 production team for the this is the 384 00:21:18,360 --> 00:21:23,940 lipstick on the pig they're the century 385 00:21:20,340 --> 00:21:27,420 BC when a privatized question Timon give 386 00:21:23,940 --> 00:21:30,390 it to some very peculiar company based 387 00:21:27,420 --> 00:21:33,120 in the South Wales Valleys called mint 388 00:21:30,390 --> 00:21:35,700 or meth who the [ __ ] a great British 389 00:21:33,120 --> 00:21:41,790 institutions actually owned by a group 390 00:21:35,700 --> 00:21:44,850 of shadowy venture capitalists yes and 391 00:21:41,790 --> 00:21:47,610 yet they command the BBC's coniferous 392 00:21:44,850 --> 00:21:49,260 landscape who agreed to that when did we 393 00:21:47,610 --> 00:21:50,790 agree to that yes and this very 394 00:21:49,260 --> 00:21:52,530 important point and it's an aspect which 395 00:21:50,790 --> 00:21:55,650 is often missing from the narrative 396 00:21:52,530 --> 00:21:57,450 about the baby say they farms out much 397 00:21:55,650 --> 00:22:00,240 of its programming and so much of its 398 00:21:57,450 --> 00:22:02,100 flagship private program programming um 399 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,870 but yeah I was coming out I thought 400 00:22:02,100 --> 00:22:05,940 maybe she and Bruce Weber the new broom 401 00:22:03,870 --> 00:22:09,960 as it were bit it's just the same old 402 00:22:05,940 --> 00:22:12,240 same old story as it's were I mean do we 403 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:15,180 this is a constant about year in year 404 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:17,130 out about BBC and do we think it's no 405 00:22:15,180 --> 00:22:19,080 longer fit for purpose has its that I do 406 00:22:17,130 --> 00:22:21,630 it missus can I just for the caveat 407 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:23,940 actually within this talking about its 408 00:22:21,630 --> 00:22:26,610 news and current affairs program because 409 00:22:23,940 --> 00:22:27,870 a lot of its cultural programming a lot 410 00:22:26,610 --> 00:22:29,880 of rosetta stone the program is very 411 00:22:27,870 --> 00:22:31,530 good you can't deny that sure it's not 412 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,270 brilliant broadcaster we've done certain 413 00:22:31,530 --> 00:22:36,510 desert news and young players is dying 414 00:22:33,270 --> 00:22:38,580 and and is it too late to resurrect it 415 00:22:36,510 --> 00:22:41,460 to its glory days as a word you thing 416 00:22:38,580 --> 00:22:44,400 well for me yes because I don't actually 417 00:22:41,460 --> 00:22:47,820 agree that there ever were glorious the 418 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:50,430 BBC was born as a British state 419 00:22:47,820 --> 00:22:56,100 propaganda outfit that's just a fact it 420 00:22:50,430 --> 00:23:00,720 was created to convey the British stage 421 00:22:56,100 --> 00:23:04,770 States political messages in time of war 422 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:06,960 which continued in time of peace so I 423 00:23:04,770 --> 00:23:09,360 don't believe the rubber world halcyon 424 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:12,630 days there was definitely more classic 425 00:23:09,360 --> 00:23:16,410 days when I was first on a BBC question 426 00:23:12,630 --> 00:23:18,520 time serve Robin day with his boat I was 427 00:23:16,410 --> 00:23:22,390 in the chair there was only 428 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:25,840 for guests me plus three real 429 00:23:22,390 --> 00:23:30,580 cabinet-level heavyweights and a hat 430 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:33,070 class had waked had what some of them 431 00:23:30,580 --> 00:23:37,120 are searching for graviton yes 432 00:23:33,070 --> 00:23:41,650 it's now the Jeremy Kyle show where you 433 00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:44,200 get these misfits back for the audience 434 00:23:41,650 --> 00:23:46,870 and sometimes misfits on the panel of 435 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:50,860 two and the job of the misfits in the 436 00:23:46,870 --> 00:23:54,930 audience is to scream abuse prejudice 437 00:23:50,860 --> 00:23:59,310 bigotry and be encouraged to do so by 438 00:23:54,930 --> 00:24:03,970 dimpled militantly and now in her second 439 00:23:59,310 --> 00:24:07,630 perhaps by nostril Fiona Bruce a lot let 440 00:24:03,970 --> 00:24:09,490 me deal with the dynamic story at first 441 00:24:07,630 --> 00:24:13,410 and and with some caveats 442 00:24:09,490 --> 00:24:17,770 I don't think diorama is a great 443 00:24:13,410 --> 00:24:19,390 television performer but I know lots of 444 00:24:17,770 --> 00:24:22,270 politicians who are loved great 445 00:24:19,390 --> 00:24:26,890 television performance and none of them 446 00:24:22,270 --> 00:24:29,740 received a scintilla of the abuse that 447 00:24:26,890 --> 00:24:32,080 Diane Abbott gets it I know that she 448 00:24:29,740 --> 00:24:35,820 forgot Alliance when she was unwell and 449 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:39,160 on medication she has a diabetes problem 450 00:24:35,820 --> 00:24:42,070 and she lost her life's got a couple of 451 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:45,190 numbers wrong but Philip Hammond is the 452 00:24:42,070 --> 00:24:49,420 Chancellor of the Exchequer in charge of 453 00:24:45,190 --> 00:24:53,980 all our money and he got the cost of hs2 454 00:24:49,420 --> 00:25:01,960 wrong by 20 billion parts that was on 455 00:24:53,980 --> 00:25:05,200 novels and I remember well yeah where's 456 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:07,390 he abused every time he comes up for 457 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:10,090 another interview why don't they say of 458 00:25:07,390 --> 00:25:12,880 course you're the man that that that 459 00:25:10,090 --> 00:25:16,330 miscounted the ages to bill by 20 460 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:20,260 billion pounds and what she allegedly 461 00:25:16,330 --> 00:25:21,789 said in the warm-up and I stress the BBC 462 00:25:20,260 --> 00:25:24,729 want to prove 463 00:25:21,789 --> 00:25:27,789 that this never happened several of the 464 00:25:24,729 --> 00:25:30,669 people in the audience say did happen 465 00:25:27,789 --> 00:25:32,919 that released the footages labour has 466 00:25:30,669 --> 00:25:33,669 demanded from him if you've nothing to 467 00:25:32,919 --> 00:25:37,179 hide 468 00:25:33,669 --> 00:25:41,669 release the footage until you do I would 469 00:25:37,179 --> 00:25:44,799 tell to say this allegedly Fiona Bruce 470 00:25:41,669 --> 00:25:48,220 say not not wink wink 471 00:25:44,799 --> 00:25:52,029 Diane Abbott's place in politics is 472 00:25:48,220 --> 00:25:56,049 related to the place she used to occupy 473 00:25:52,029 --> 00:26:00,849 in bed with Jeremy Corbyn now that is 474 00:25:56,049 --> 00:26:04,960 utter sexism for a start about a woman 475 00:26:00,849 --> 00:26:08,559 that has been in power for know quite a 476 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:14,309 bit over 30 years is a Cambridge 477 00:26:08,559 --> 00:26:20,349 graduate was a senior civil servant has 478 00:26:14,309 --> 00:26:23,109 now elevated to one of the three great 479 00:26:20,349 --> 00:26:26,049 offices of state and she's a black woman 480 00:26:23,109 --> 00:26:30,070 there that is what the of around of 481 00:26:26,049 --> 00:26:34,479 applause not that kind of near-death if 482 00:26:30,070 --> 00:26:36,309 you were anyone being told that the only 483 00:26:34,479 --> 00:26:39,279 reason you've got physicians conscious 484 00:26:36,309 --> 00:26:43,539 left with your boss you would have a 485 00:26:39,279 --> 00:26:46,299 right to say that is misogynistic sexist 486 00:26:43,539 --> 00:26:48,190 drivel there and no one least of all a 487 00:26:46,299 --> 00:26:50,529 public broadcaster should be saying it 488 00:26:48,190 --> 00:26:53,470 but when you're a black woman on top of 489 00:26:50,529 --> 00:26:58,119 that and you are the person who is in 490 00:26:53,470 --> 00:27:03,190 receipt of fifty percent of all online 491 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:08,169 abuse 50 percent of the politicians she 492 00:27:03,190 --> 00:27:11,080 gets the abuse of half of the abuse this 493 00:27:08,169 --> 00:27:14,169 she gets half of the abou abuse that is 494 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:17,470 dish they get to politicians online it 495 00:27:14,169 --> 00:27:20,409 is a scandal an absolute disgrace and 496 00:27:17,470 --> 00:27:21,820 look I all die another nothing I've 497 00:27:20,409 --> 00:27:23,499 known her for a long time she's not a 498 00:27:21,820 --> 00:27:28,299 friend of mine she's never done anything 499 00:27:23,499 --> 00:27:30,210 for me I'm not speaking to party pre as 500 00:27:28,299 --> 00:27:34,539 of one I'm 501 00:27:30,210 --> 00:27:37,870 on behalf of black people on behalf of 502 00:27:34,539 --> 00:27:41,350 women who have a right to have their 503 00:27:37,870 --> 00:27:44,970 achievements recognized without this 504 00:27:41,350 --> 00:27:48,520 slur that they got these achievements 505 00:27:44,970 --> 00:27:50,260 for the exchange of sexual favors 506 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:52,960 absolutely any lower than that 507 00:27:50,260 --> 00:27:54,640 BBC know doesn't and I mean the bottom 508 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,590 line is I'm no fan of Diana 509 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,720 either didactically think she's a 510 00:27:56,590 --> 00:28:01,120 cracking politician but there's nothing 511 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,620 to do with anything else much of stone I 512 00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:04,179 just don't agree with a lot more she 513 00:28:02,620 --> 00:28:07,780 says however you're quite right that 514 00:28:04,179 --> 00:28:09,190 this would not have if this has been any 515 00:28:07,780 --> 00:28:11,409 other situation than any other 516 00:28:09,190 --> 00:28:12,669 politician they would have blown up more 517 00:28:11,409 --> 00:28:14,380 than their house it's haven't really 518 00:28:12,669 --> 00:28:18,159 been independent media focusing on it 519 00:28:14,380 --> 00:28:21,760 but moreover what this shows for me on 520 00:28:18,159 --> 00:28:24,429 that note is the way that someone like 521 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:26,530 Fiona Bruce a woman who has allegedly 522 00:28:24,429 --> 00:28:29,289 smashed this glass ceiling at the BBC 523 00:28:26,530 --> 00:28:31,960 and gone up to the rounds of percent of 524 00:28:29,289 --> 00:28:34,030 the Antiques Roadshow and crime auctions 525 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:36,700 main anchor on six o'clock news in our 526 00:28:34,030 --> 00:28:40,510 question time still plays into the 527 00:28:36,700 --> 00:28:42,730 misogyny and racism allegedly that 528 00:28:40,510 --> 00:28:44,289 exists at the BBC's you see instigator 529 00:28:42,730 --> 00:28:45,610 of it allegedly if you believe the 530 00:28:44,289 --> 00:28:47,710 report to come out of the audience and 531 00:28:45,610 --> 00:28:53,309 that's more damning the fact is another 532 00:28:47,710 --> 00:28:55,570 woman doing this but overall I think 533 00:28:53,309 --> 00:28:57,520 she's been very disappointing but then 534 00:28:55,570 --> 00:29:00,039 as I said the stop show I have to polish 535 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,690 I was my era of praising her I should 536 00:29:00,039 --> 00:29:03,669 have expected anything less because what 537 00:29:01,690 --> 00:29:06,490 they have done with Gary Bruce's is 538 00:29:03,669 --> 00:29:08,020 essentially dumbed down question timing 539 00:29:06,490 --> 00:29:10,000 for more that's becoming apparent now 540 00:29:08,020 --> 00:29:12,100 issued while she was negative for BBC 541 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:14,230 News she's essentially done some fluff 542 00:29:12,100 --> 00:29:16,690 television like Antiques Roadshow and 543 00:29:14,230 --> 00:29:19,750 the question time is now turning into an 544 00:29:16,690 --> 00:29:22,270 even more of a circus if you like with 545 00:29:19,750 --> 00:29:24,700 Viola Bruce or shiny G up the audience 546 00:29:22,270 --> 00:29:26,740 and interact and cracks and jokes and 547 00:29:24,700 --> 00:29:29,200 blah blah blah and it's just even worse 548 00:29:26,740 --> 00:29:31,000 I mean the finale for what it's worth at 549 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,830 the candidates that were taken last year 550 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,940 apart from yourself which would have 551 00:29:32,830 --> 00:29:37,710 been well I know in silence 552 00:29:34,940 --> 00:29:39,600 aura about myself a living life 553 00:29:37,710 --> 00:29:41,760 nightless probably would have been best 554 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:46,260 cancer Emily Magnus I think out of the 555 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:49,260 female BBC anchors the she's probably in 556 00:29:46,260 --> 00:29:51,690 the my money one of the strongest 170 557 00:29:49,260 --> 00:29:55,500 reflected she's great just because she's 558 00:29:51,690 --> 00:29:57,149 an establishment anchor but she is when 559 00:29:55,500 --> 00:29:59,640 you watch on news night at all the new 560 00:29:57,149 --> 00:30:02,340 substances evan Davis and so forth 561 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:05,250 I think she's the strongest anchor rod 562 00:30:02,340 --> 00:30:07,590 news tonight and she's she caught them 563 00:30:05,250 --> 00:30:09,510 very very so I thought about when 564 00:30:07,590 --> 00:30:11,070 interviewing people and I think might 565 00:30:09,510 --> 00:30:13,559 have sort of been the best person to 566 00:30:11,070 --> 00:30:15,630 type of question Thomas I mean I was in 567 00:30:13,559 --> 00:30:18,350 favor of under Neal getting or the basis 568 00:30:15,630 --> 00:30:20,880 that he is the best interviewer of 569 00:30:18,350 --> 00:30:22,260 political figures as we disap yeah 570 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,870 whatever you do everything of its 571 00:30:22,260 --> 00:30:27,120 politics you got there is an Israeli 572 00:30:24,870 --> 00:30:30,090 politics Maitlis politics and who knows 573 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:32,250 politic now I hate all of those things 574 00:30:30,090 --> 00:30:35,760 come walking across professionals yes 575 00:30:32,250 --> 00:30:38,940 that it's a must if you're doing a job 576 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:41,760 like that if you're gonna be you know an 577 00:30:38,940 --> 00:30:46,279 attack dog you have to be equally savage 578 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:50,490 with all the panels not ganging up with 579 00:30:46,279 --> 00:30:51,600 another class Tory talk walk short who's 580 00:30:50,490 --> 00:30:55,139 never off the program 581 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:58,529 neither witness yes I know this yearly 582 00:30:55,139 --> 00:31:00,740 what she represents anyway ganging up 583 00:30:58,529 --> 00:31:04,679 with an upper-class story taught and 584 00:31:00,740 --> 00:31:08,130 being completely wrong about the subject 585 00:31:04,679 --> 00:31:13,289 you ganged up about egg on face 586 00:31:08,130 --> 00:31:17,070 penalties I think we might need a fourth 587 00:31:13,289 --> 00:31:18,570 subject no no I'm not sure we get ten 588 00:31:17,070 --> 00:31:20,549 minutes out of this because there's no I 589 00:31:18,570 --> 00:31:21,899 think about it I think it's important 590 00:31:20,549 --> 00:31:23,490 that we touch on there because this is 591 00:31:21,899 --> 00:31:25,440 going surfing is gonna be one of these 592 00:31:23,490 --> 00:31:27,720 stories of the years what I think yeah 593 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,760 it's just gonna kick off yeah it always 594 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,980 has 595 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:44,690 okay who's going by leading you leading 596 00:31:30,980 --> 00:31:46,790 that there have been concerning 597 00:31:44,690 --> 00:31:48,830 developments to say the least in 598 00:31:46,790 --> 00:31:50,720 Northern Ireland or the six counties 599 00:31:48,830 --> 00:31:53,360 depending on how you choose to call it a 600 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:55,700 movie from there was also a car bomb 601 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:58,040 over the weekend weekend being we're 602 00:31:55,700 --> 00:32:00,110 recording on the 22nd of January and 603 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:02,090 since then we've been arrested there's 604 00:32:00,110 --> 00:32:04,430 also been more suspected car bombs three 605 00:32:02,090 --> 00:32:06,650 I believe which actually were hoaxes 606 00:32:04,430 --> 00:32:09,950 allegedly Indian Georgians they weren't 607 00:32:06,650 --> 00:32:11,090 what the decision comes band's hijacked 608 00:32:09,950 --> 00:32:13,250 or what they were 609 00:32:11,090 --> 00:32:16,970 yeah the dismal if all those boxes yeah 610 00:32:13,250 --> 00:32:18,950 I mean they pointed that the new IRA as 611 00:32:16,970 --> 00:32:21,320 these suspects as it were no one's 612 00:32:18,950 --> 00:32:23,210 actually come out and said since they 613 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:26,420 have very committed to the actual 614 00:32:23,210 --> 00:32:29,750 problem of all the papers but I mean for 615 00:32:26,420 --> 00:32:31,820 me there is a kind of the current 616 00:32:29,750 --> 00:32:33,110 grinding north Ireland's Minister has 617 00:32:31,820 --> 00:32:34,700 come out and said there's nothing to do 618 00:32:33,110 --> 00:32:36,950 friction nothing to do it for extra time 619 00:32:34,700 --> 00:32:39,200 we're not sure what's to do with it's 620 00:32:36,950 --> 00:32:40,970 nothing to do with praxis and but for me 621 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:44,110 there was always an inevitability with 622 00:32:40,970 --> 00:32:47,090 this really not least because the the 623 00:32:44,110 --> 00:32:51,650 wounds however much the establishment 624 00:32:47,090 --> 00:32:53,810 glosses over them the ever healed but 625 00:32:51,650 --> 00:32:54,860 more overnight I think this was always 626 00:32:53,810 --> 00:32:57,920 going to be there was going to be 627 00:32:54,860 --> 00:33:00,380 consequence of the Conservatives siding 628 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:02,210 with the DUP as they have done in their 629 00:33:00,380 --> 00:33:04,640 competence and supply agreements but 630 00:33:02,210 --> 00:33:06,230 thirdly ever since the backstop was 631 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,880 announced I think that was always going 632 00:33:06,230 --> 00:33:10,700 to be another spark which was going to 633 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:12,110 reignite tensions as it were now I may 634 00:33:10,700 --> 00:33:15,590 be wrong and I'm not going to stand and 635 00:33:12,110 --> 00:33:17,420 say I'm an expert on the Irish issues on 636 00:33:15,590 --> 00:33:19,790 dot but I have a broader understanding 637 00:33:17,420 --> 00:33:21,920 it like I said this is always an 638 00:33:19,790 --> 00:33:23,720 inevitable consequence which was also 639 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:26,360 good the backs of referendum came up 640 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:29,330 always glossed over by the media as well 641 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:33,080 what the implications of leaving the EU 642 00:33:29,330 --> 00:33:35,780 or main would be for Ireland's as it 643 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:37,460 were so that's my kind of positioner but 644 00:33:35,780 --> 00:33:40,100 you're very clean up 645 00:33:37,460 --> 00:33:42,200 interesting now your your thoughts on 646 00:33:40,100 --> 00:33:45,010 what's going on in the north of us well 647 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:48,830 look it was always a tinderbox as you 648 00:33:45,010 --> 00:33:51,980 imply nothing fundamental was resolved 649 00:33:48,830 --> 00:33:53,840 in the peace agreement there were some 650 00:33:51,980 --> 00:33:56,659 gains some advances of course but 651 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:59,990 nothing fundamental was changed the 652 00:33:56,659 --> 00:34:05,210 fundamental fact is that the small 653 00:33:59,990 --> 00:34:08,990 island of was torn asunder by the 654 00:34:05,210 --> 00:34:13,030 British state almost 100 years ago in 655 00:34:08,990 --> 00:34:16,000 collusion with then as now the 656 00:34:13,030 --> 00:34:21,020 Protestant ascendancy the loyalist 657 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:22,940 unionist run more the six countries 658 00:34:21,020 --> 00:34:25,790 that's all we're talking about it's not 659 00:34:22,940 --> 00:34:30,099 a country it's not an island it's just 660 00:34:25,790 --> 00:34:37,250 six counties in a thirty-two country 661 00:34:30,099 --> 00:34:40,070 remains torn from its cotton and held by 662 00:34:37,250 --> 00:34:43,070 that collusion in the two hands of that 663 00:34:40,070 --> 00:34:46,280 collusion the British States former 664 00:34:43,070 --> 00:34:50,720 least selfish interests in retaining a 665 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:54,740 part of Ireland the loyalist populations 666 00:34:50,720 --> 00:34:57,980 wish to cling to the Union Jack 667 00:34:54,740 --> 00:34:59,660 inference so that wasn't resolved and of 668 00:34:57,980 --> 00:35:03,349 course therefore that tension will 669 00:34:59,660 --> 00:35:06,920 always exist another tension there isn't 670 00:35:03,349 --> 00:35:10,670 noticed the Good Friday Agreement and 671 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:12,550 all these decades of peace now have 672 00:35:10,670 --> 00:35:16,010 followed relative peace 673 00:35:12,550 --> 00:35:19,520 didn't change the lives of the poorest 674 00:35:16,010 --> 00:35:23,330 people Catholic and Protestant in the 675 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:27,349 six counties in fact many of them live 676 00:35:23,330 --> 00:35:30,140 really difficult hard lives and whilst a 677 00:35:27,349 --> 00:35:33,260 political class on other side of the 678 00:35:30,140 --> 00:35:37,010 conflict inevitably rules to political 679 00:35:33,260 --> 00:35:39,710 office salaries and even chauffeur 680 00:35:37,010 --> 00:35:43,270 driven cars in some cases least until 681 00:35:39,710 --> 00:35:46,640 the assembly was suspended down below 682 00:35:43,270 --> 00:35:48,620 amongst the rank and file and now there 683 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:51,380 nothing much change they live in the 684 00:35:48,620 --> 00:35:54,770 same house they have the same low paid 685 00:35:51,380 --> 00:35:59,000 employment they enjoy if that's the want 686 00:35:54,770 --> 00:36:00,410 the same poor public services the 687 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,360 pressures on 688 00:36:00,410 --> 00:36:04,810 the health service and so on in the 689 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:09,830 North Island really pretty severe so 690 00:36:04,810 --> 00:36:12,500 you've got added to the tinder or the 691 00:36:09,830 --> 00:36:17,290 National question you have economic 692 00:36:12,500 --> 00:36:22,990 questions the all these assets IRAs 693 00:36:17,290 --> 00:36:24,140 continuity IRA Real IRA now new IRA 694 00:36:22,990 --> 00:36:27,110 Enterprise 695 00:36:24,140 --> 00:36:28,940 I know anything about them I feel sure 696 00:36:27,110 --> 00:36:32,270 that they'll be drawing their support 697 00:36:28,940 --> 00:36:35,030 such as it is from the disinherited that 698 00:36:32,270 --> 00:36:38,930 disenfranchised the marginalized the 699 00:36:35,030 --> 00:36:41,920 poor for whom life hasn't changed under 700 00:36:38,930 --> 00:36:45,470 the Good Friday Agreement but you know 701 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:48,080 being half an Irishman I'm entitled to 702 00:36:45,470 --> 00:36:51,080 see as the Irishman apocryphally did 703 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:53,960 when approached by a stranger and asked 704 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:56,350 the direction to Dublin the answer door 705 00:36:53,960 --> 00:37:00,950 I wouldn't have started from here I 706 00:36:56,350 --> 00:37:04,430 wouldn't have started from here and if 707 00:37:00,950 --> 00:37:07,190 it's true that the clear majority of 708 00:37:04,430 --> 00:37:11,000 people in the six counties want to 709 00:37:07,190 --> 00:37:14,000 remain in the EU there's a very very 710 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:15,740 simple way of doing it and that is to 711 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:19,490 use the Good Friday Agreement 712 00:37:15,740 --> 00:37:21,740 which provides for border pooling have a 713 00:37:19,490 --> 00:37:26,030 referendum on whether islands should be 714 00:37:21,740 --> 00:37:30,080 reunited inside the EU or not in a wing 715 00:37:26,030 --> 00:37:32,600 it's decision time for the unionist 716 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:35,000 population they have to decide whether 717 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:38,619 they're more loyal to the European Union 718 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:40,869 or to the British crown which by the way 719 00:37:38,619 --> 00:37:42,940 doesn't give a toss about that would be 720 00:37:40,869 --> 00:37:46,809 wrapped ready as the backstop proves 721 00:37:42,940 --> 00:37:50,349 ready to throw them to the world if if 722 00:37:46,809 --> 00:37:52,930 it had suited them and if Parliament had 723 00:37:50,349 --> 00:37:56,109 let them get away with it yeah so I 724 00:37:52,930 --> 00:37:58,980 strongly advise people from the unionist 725 00:37:56,109 --> 00:38:02,499 tradition to take this opportunity 726 00:37:58,980 --> 00:38:05,950 England's difficulty Arman's opportunity 727 00:38:02,499 --> 00:38:07,059 thickness opportunity to reunite our 728 00:38:05,950 --> 00:38:12,460 country that should never have been 729 00:38:07,059 --> 00:38:14,740 divided no I don't disagree and while 730 00:38:12,460 --> 00:38:16,480 like as us an introduction now I'm not 731 00:38:14,740 --> 00:38:18,910 going to claim to be really gender pond 732 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:26,740 and the the Irish question as it were I 733 00:38:18,910 --> 00:38:29,170 have a basic understanding and I mean 734 00:38:26,740 --> 00:38:33,069 our assembly it's been it's been nearly 735 00:38:29,170 --> 00:38:35,619 two years to your savings against so 736 00:38:33,069 --> 00:38:39,640 sort of having two points on that really 737 00:38:35,619 --> 00:38:41,289 firstly woods debt with a border 738 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:43,029 referendum if you lie even be possible 739 00:38:41,289 --> 00:38:45,279 anybody secondly do you think the 740 00:38:43,029 --> 00:38:48,989 suspension of the assembly has also had 741 00:38:45,279 --> 00:38:52,960 the impact on the increasing activity of 742 00:38:48,989 --> 00:38:56,079 you are not using that's playing you 743 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:57,609 have a vacuum there's no because there's 744 00:38:56,079 --> 00:38:59,170 an explanation there's a political sort 745 00:38:57,609 --> 00:39:02,950 of no-man's land 746 00:38:59,170 --> 00:39:03,220 yeah it's all about us comment it shut 747 00:39:02,950 --> 00:39:05,230 down 748 00:39:03,220 --> 00:39:07,569 exactly assist each other for two years 749 00:39:05,230 --> 00:39:09,759 and yeah I mean Forster is continually 750 00:39:07,569 --> 00:39:12,339 described as the Chief Minister frost 751 00:39:09,759 --> 00:39:14,140 mister or Northern Ireland as they call 752 00:39:12,339 --> 00:39:17,140 it in fact she isn't it 753 00:39:14,140 --> 00:39:19,839 she's a half-time member of the assembly 754 00:39:17,140 --> 00:39:23,489 that's the only position that she rolls 755 00:39:19,839 --> 00:39:26,769 gets pushes the leader of the DUP but 756 00:39:23,489 --> 00:39:29,529 yeah I mean in about you more kinds of 757 00:39:26,769 --> 00:39:31,869 things will happen at the demo finds 758 00:39:29,529 --> 00:39:37,900 work for idle hands or walk by the lines 759 00:39:31,869 --> 00:39:40,869 in Arlen taking up weapons again is not 760 00:39:37,900 --> 00:39:45,349 something that Shin fee nor the IRA 761 00:39:40,869 --> 00:39:49,900 would do in this circumstance 762 00:39:45,349 --> 00:39:52,700 some of the younger more alienated 763 00:39:49,900 --> 00:39:54,619 forces are clearly ready to do that yet 764 00:39:52,700 --> 00:39:57,920 I will have to be very careful because 765 00:39:54,619 --> 00:40:00,769 that car bomb it didn't hurt anyone but 766 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:04,490 it could is left and we we saw from the 767 00:40:00,769 --> 00:40:09,619 horrific crime ah oh ma just how much 768 00:40:04,490 --> 00:40:13,910 damage a car bomb can do it can be 769 00:40:09,619 --> 00:40:18,349 little mincemeat out of scores of human 770 00:40:13,910 --> 00:40:21,619 beings and we mustn't see a return to 771 00:40:18,349 --> 00:40:25,579 that so I very much hope that the 772 00:40:21,619 --> 00:40:27,529 hard-won peace can be saved but I think 773 00:40:25,579 --> 00:40:30,859 the politicians ought to get on with it 774 00:40:27,529 --> 00:40:32,569 you know I think the artists need to get 775 00:40:30,859 --> 00:40:34,579 on with it yeah I think the Irish 776 00:40:32,569 --> 00:40:38,059 government is too over that chin thing 777 00:40:34,579 --> 00:40:40,460 the biggest party now in Ireland if you 778 00:40:38,059 --> 00:40:41,599 put North and South together they need 779 00:40:40,460 --> 00:40:43,549 to get on with it 780 00:40:41,599 --> 00:40:45,849 I don't see why it's always me that's 781 00:40:43,549 --> 00:40:48,920 agitating for a gobbler woman not there 782 00:40:45,849 --> 00:40:52,220 that's a very good point but I probably 783 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:54,650 very easily answer that no I don't think 784 00:40:52,220 --> 00:40:57,049 it's going to I think this is a story or 785 00:40:54,650 --> 00:40:59,450 a situation rather those going through 786 00:40:57,049 --> 00:41:02,720 pushy brush without you how do I see it 787 00:40:59,450 --> 00:41:04,279 yeah I don't know all I see is 788 00:41:02,720 --> 00:41:06,319 apparently now the officer eating 789 00:41:04,279 --> 00:41:09,499 distinction was being rewritten so hey 790 00:41:06,319 --> 00:41:11,299 that's the same eating as being because 791 00:41:09,499 --> 00:41:12,799 trees may have that without client 792 00:41:11,299 --> 00:41:15,440 begging is basically apart from the odd 793 00:41:12,799 --> 00:41:19,099 65 quid here and there for you national 794 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:20,630 registry it's basically says pate so how 795 00:41:19,099 --> 00:41:22,640 do I see a dime of my position hasn't 796 00:41:20,630 --> 00:41:24,380 challenged from what we said on last 797 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:27,380 week's show she had there's two options 798 00:41:24,380 --> 00:41:29,450 Atlas nests which essentially one Tory 799 00:41:27,380 --> 00:41:34,249 party push out a new pet story 800 00:41:29,450 --> 00:41:36,739 broken by the iPod satire Tuesday 22nd 801 00:41:34,249 --> 00:41:38,989 of January that cabinet ministers are 802 00:41:36,739 --> 00:41:40,609 already planning mass resignations next 803 00:41:38,989 --> 00:41:42,529 week of responses back they're tagging 804 00:41:40,609 --> 00:41:43,280 in speeding through space world and 805 00:41:42,529 --> 00:41:45,290 there's no 806 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:49,960 concessions night there's already 807 00:41:45,290 --> 00:41:55,580 chatter that there's enshu sewers 808 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:59,300 robotic abuse acting like my own words 809 00:41:55,580 --> 00:42:00,830 nah doesn't change no yes we carry all 810 00:41:59,300 --> 00:42:03,230 that your convenience in divinity honey 811 00:42:00,830 --> 00:42:04,870 I could my solution is to change I 812 00:42:03,230 --> 00:42:08,960 cannot see any other way out this bamboo 813 00:42:04,870 --> 00:42:12,590 rapid Yuka said that annoyed me joining 814 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:15,100 two topics together actually on question 815 00:42:12,590 --> 00:42:19,520 time last week because they spoke of the 816 00:42:15,100 --> 00:42:21,230 should up with fifty be extended every 817 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:23,930 time was trotted out same answer saying 818 00:42:21,230 --> 00:42:26,060 well yes as we guess the government 819 00:42:23,930 --> 00:42:27,650 should extend article 50 or no the 820 00:42:26,060 --> 00:42:29,450 government shouldn't extend the article 821 00:42:27,650 --> 00:42:32,030 50 of course what happens instead was we 822 00:42:29,450 --> 00:42:33,800 can't extend article 50 what we have to 823 00:42:32,030 --> 00:42:35,750 do to extend article 50 is grossly 824 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,910 council viewer asked their permission 825 00:42:35,750 --> 00:42:39,440 the absolute group has the plug as to 826 00:42:37,910 --> 00:42:41,690 whether they get a less extend article 827 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:43,670 50 then we can do it and if they 828 00:42:41,690 --> 00:42:47,180 seriously think that with juries might 829 00:42:43,670 --> 00:42:50,810 heaven the 28 member states of Europe 830 00:42:47,180 --> 00:42:53,830 fine but a reason either themselves 831 00:42:50,810 --> 00:42:53,830 wanna see her coming 832 00:42:54,670 --> 00:43:12,290 I get venido music in my head will sum 833 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:17,990 up with a super yeah water in my article 834 00:43:12,290 --> 00:43:22,070 I have floated the third possibility is 835 00:43:17,990 --> 00:43:26,000 the least likely but it solves the 836 00:43:22,070 --> 00:43:28,520 problem for the British ruling class are 837 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:32,810 practicing often that means they can see 838 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:38,090 in European here's how it works just 839 00:43:32,810 --> 00:43:39,530 like my god in 1931 abandoned his own 840 00:43:38,090 --> 00:43:43,600 party and for 841 00:43:39,530 --> 00:43:46,460 National Guard for the tourism a 842 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:49,280 national government lost power 843 00:43:46,460 --> 00:43:53,090 in the current house of God mm-hmm two 844 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:56,630 hundred Conservative MPs who really want 845 00:43:53,090 --> 00:43:59,960 to remain in the euro here 100 Labour 846 00:43:56,630 --> 00:44:03,080 MPs who hate Corbin and really want to 847 00:43:59,960 --> 00:44:06,230 be in european-- hmm formed themselves 848 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:09,650 into a coalition a 300 that's the 849 00:44:06,230 --> 00:44:14,390 biggest party in the house no job when 850 00:44:09,650 --> 00:44:19,010 you add 11 the plus 27 Scottish 851 00:44:14,390 --> 00:44:22,640 nationalists for Welsh nationalists 1 852 00:44:19,010 --> 00:44:25,700 Green 8 independence and you could add 853 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:31,340 all of them you get a commanding 854 00:44:25,700 --> 00:44:34,220 majority to remain in the EU inside the 855 00:44:31,340 --> 00:44:38,750 current House of Commons but it could 856 00:44:34,220 --> 00:44:42,940 only come to pass they were recognized 857 00:44:38,750 --> 00:44:47,660 as the government that would require the 858 00:44:42,940 --> 00:44:50,030 collusion of the speaker and all of the 859 00:44:47,660 --> 00:44:54,220 Queen matter of which if you think about 860 00:44:50,030 --> 00:44:58,690 it it's an insurmountable object because 861 00:44:54,220 --> 00:45:02,870 who wants to remain in the EU well only 862 00:44:58,690 --> 00:45:06,260 the richest the most powerful the 863 00:45:02,870 --> 00:45:08,720 biggest banks corporations British 864 00:45:06,260 --> 00:45:11,870 capitalism the British deep state 865 00:45:08,720 --> 00:45:14,540 Whitehall the BBC all of them want to 866 00:45:11,870 --> 00:45:18,470 remain in the European Union and they 867 00:45:14,540 --> 00:45:22,070 have a majority in the House of Commons 868 00:45:18,470 --> 00:45:25,760 today without an election if he could 869 00:45:22,070 --> 00:45:29,600 only find a way to the end party by 870 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:31,820 piece well well you know you've said 871 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:33,380 that now and it doesn't actually now 872 00:45:31,820 --> 00:45:35,330 seem too far-fetched because you must 873 00:45:33,380 --> 00:45:37,100 have seen the pictures on Monday of 874 00:45:35,330 --> 00:45:40,610 tripura Manolis 875 00:45:37,100 --> 00:45:43,940 Anna surgeries ever worse than all the 876 00:45:40,610 --> 00:45:45,860 usual centrist suspects from both labor 877 00:45:43,940 --> 00:45:50,030 the Tories coming out of that meeting 878 00:45:45,860 --> 00:45:52,160 they AdWords hiruzen am I mean if I was 879 00:45:50,030 --> 00:45:53,390 to be mistaken but I like with Earth 880 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:56,320 orbit that's right 881 00:45:53,390 --> 00:45:59,240 that's everyone's [ __ ] already yeah 882 00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:02,750 obviously yeah I can't say mother I've 883 00:45:59,240 --> 00:46:06,890 heard the wheels but I'm just imagine 884 00:46:02,750 --> 00:46:08,510 for myself what if I was in there that's 885 00:46:06,890 --> 00:46:11,420 the kind of wheel I'd be looking out 886 00:46:08,510 --> 00:46:13,190 from yeah no absolutely time and talent 887 00:46:11,420 --> 00:46:15,440 when we may know more next week it may 888 00:46:13,190 --> 00:46:17,390 be time past all because that small is 889 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:19,160 you've got time for that is it for this 890 00:46:17,390 --> 00:46:23,540 we get a look we only managed two 891 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:26,660 apartments or exit a so neat on Sundays 892 00:46:23,540 --> 00:46:29,150 and on Sunday night at the old red 893 00:46:26,660 --> 00:46:31,580 theater in Birmingham me and Ken 894 00:46:29,150 --> 00:46:44,660 Livingstone at the outsiders see you 895 00:46:31,580 --> 00:46:49,790 next week okay yeah I'd like to do I 896 00:46:44,660 --> 00:46:52,160 think I think should burn all I'd like 897 00:46:49,790 --> 00:46:53,990 to do more of these segments where I 898 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:56,170 don't have a good knowledge and I 899 00:46:53,990 --> 00:46:59,390 question you because I think it's quite 900 00:46:56,170 --> 00:47:03,070 I think it's quite interesting for the 901 00:46:59,390 --> 00:47:03,070 viewers who gets yeah 902 00:47:04,590 --> 00:47:09,520 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