1 00:00:00,350 --> 00:00:05,850 [Music] 2 00:00:02,510 --> 00:00:08,370 will topple Galloway I'm States opal and 3 00:00:05,850 --> 00:00:11,580 I'm George Galloway we're kicking off 4 00:00:08,370 --> 00:00:15,299 and I mean kicking off about Jack Straw 5 00:00:11,580 --> 00:00:17,850 the report of the Intelligence and 6 00:00:15,299 --> 00:00:21,150 Security Committee in the House of 7 00:00:17,850 --> 00:00:23,910 Commons just earlier this week has 8 00:00:21,150 --> 00:00:27,720 caused well nothing 9 00:00:23,910 --> 00:00:30,510 it's caused nothing just like the Chaco 10 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:34,620 inquiry report two years ago this week 11 00:00:30,510 --> 00:00:37,559 it caused nothing nothing at all has 12 00:00:34,620 --> 00:00:42,450 been the result of a parliamentary 13 00:00:37,559 --> 00:00:45,980 committees inquiry which proved beyond a 14 00:00:42,450 --> 00:00:48,239 peradventure that British Minister 15 00:00:45,980 --> 00:00:51,270 systematically lied to Bauer's of 16 00:00:48,239 --> 00:00:55,530 Commons and rather more importantly and 17 00:00:51,270 --> 00:00:59,010 blood ly profited from the torture of 18 00:00:55,530 --> 00:01:02,699 human beings by the United States in its 19 00:00:59,010 --> 00:01:05,549 extraordinary rendition period which 20 00:01:02,699 --> 00:01:06,740 lasted several years of the war on 21 00:01:05,549 --> 00:01:10,290 terror 22 00:01:06,740 --> 00:01:14,400 despite British ministers particularly 23 00:01:10,290 --> 00:01:17,580 David Miliband and Jack Straw telling us 24 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:20,400 that Britain had nothing whatsoever to 25 00:01:17,580 --> 00:01:24,240 do with extraordinary rendition would 26 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:26,640 never agree to profit from torture and 27 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:28,979 that those of us who said otherwise were 28 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:31,799 conspiracy theorists that's what we were 29 00:01:28,979 --> 00:01:34,020 Steve as we always are George s amending 30 00:01:31,799 --> 00:01:36,240 the implications or other safe attempt 31 00:01:34,020 --> 00:01:39,450 potential implications of this should 32 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:41,939 should be staggering I mean we have 33 00:01:39,450 --> 00:01:44,299 violations of international law we have 34 00:01:41,939 --> 00:01:47,070 the senior most ministers under Blair's 35 00:01:44,299 --> 00:01:50,659 administration directly in the frame for 36 00:01:47,070 --> 00:01:54,289 this and yet as you say 37 00:01:50,659 --> 00:01:55,130 there was a day of liberal newspaper 38 00:01:54,289 --> 00:01:57,679 headlines 39 00:01:55,130 --> 00:02:00,710 yeah guarding in the right-wing press 40 00:01:57,679 --> 00:02:03,799 particularly although the right-wing 41 00:02:00,710 --> 00:02:05,630 press is torn because at least it's a 42 00:02:03,799 --> 00:02:08,030 Labour government that was presiding 43 00:02:05,630 --> 00:02:12,769 over all this so that you can get a kick 44 00:02:08,030 --> 00:02:15,680 in that labor so the mill fluttered only 45 00:02:12,769 --> 00:02:17,480 to deceive in its coverage of it but by 46 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:20,090 day two it was gone of course absolutely 47 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:22,700 and so is this going to go the same way 48 00:02:20,090 --> 00:02:25,129 as the Chilkoot inquiry which in itself 49 00:02:22,700 --> 00:02:27,620 was sort of quite ineffective tool if 50 00:02:25,129 --> 00:02:29,420 you like it exposing the real crimes of 51 00:02:27,620 --> 00:02:30,920 tony blair in his administration but is 52 00:02:29,420 --> 00:02:32,510 this going to go the same way i mean 53 00:02:30,920 --> 00:02:34,879 some of the revelations were fairly 54 00:02:32,510 --> 00:02:36,860 staggering in this report but you know 55 00:02:34,879 --> 00:02:38,690 as well as I do it's nothing that most 56 00:02:36,860 --> 00:02:41,739 of us didn't know already I remember you 57 00:02:38,690 --> 00:02:44,450 stood up in Parliament and directly and 58 00:02:41,739 --> 00:02:47,739 got hold of Jack Straw metaphor metaphor 59 00:02:44,450 --> 00:02:51,019 agree yeah we should go and father know 60 00:02:47,739 --> 00:02:54,079 so we know this and the challenges 61 00:02:51,019 --> 00:02:57,200 firstly that Theresa Mays administration 62 00:02:54,079 --> 00:02:59,209 if she pushes and investigates this then 63 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:02,030 it maple open up a can of worms for her 64 00:02:59,209 --> 00:03:04,220 government for as well I'm not acting on 65 00:03:02,030 --> 00:03:06,440 this prior and allowing allowing this 66 00:03:04,220 --> 00:03:07,819 information to stay this is them this is 67 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:11,090 the biggest problem you know I believe 68 00:03:07,819 --> 00:03:13,130 in retributive justice I believe that 69 00:03:11,090 --> 00:03:15,109 people should pay for their crimes and 70 00:03:13,130 --> 00:03:19,510 there are sins but even if you don't 71 00:03:15,109 --> 00:03:22,970 believe in that the main problem is by 72 00:03:19,510 --> 00:03:26,150 ignoring the Chilkoot inquiry two years 73 00:03:22,970 --> 00:03:29,930 ago ignoring this torture rendition 74 00:03:26,150 --> 00:03:33,200 inquiry just a few days ago we make it 75 00:03:29,930 --> 00:03:36,139 more likely that future administrations 76 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:38,870 maybe even this administration will 77 00:03:36,139 --> 00:03:42,380 commit exactly the same crimes because 78 00:03:38,870 --> 00:03:45,349 if you are not forced to pay for them 79 00:03:42,380 --> 00:03:47,810 why should you stop doing them and 80 00:03:45,349 --> 00:03:50,540 that's the real reason why the Teresa 81 00:03:47,810 --> 00:03:53,090 may government is defending the Tony 82 00:03:50,540 --> 00:03:55,639 Blair and Gordon Brown by the way some 83 00:03:53,090 --> 00:03:59,479 of this happened on Gordon Brown's prime 84 00:03:55,639 --> 00:04:02,340 ministerial watch they're defending that 85 00:03:59,479 --> 00:04:04,500 not because they like Blair or Brown 86 00:04:02,340 --> 00:04:07,830 maybe they did maybe they didn't but 87 00:04:04,500 --> 00:04:11,520 because they're defending Cameron in his 88 00:04:07,830 --> 00:04:14,010 crimes against Lilia the defending 89 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:18,510 treasom a although she's a bit busy on 90 00:04:14,010 --> 00:04:21,079 other things on her crimes in Syria and 91 00:04:18,510 --> 00:04:24,000 elsewhere so each successive 92 00:04:21,079 --> 00:04:28,380 administration and the deep state that 93 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:30,840 serves them all has to defend these 94 00:04:28,380 --> 00:04:33,810 crimes there are one or two additional 95 00:04:30,840 --> 00:04:40,400 failsafe points thought that I'd like to 96 00:04:33,810 --> 00:04:43,560 make it is a synonym that in our 97 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:46,260 constitutional monarchy we don't have a 98 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:49,860 Constitution but we have custom and 99 00:04:46,260 --> 00:04:53,700 practice our custom and practice is that 100 00:04:49,860 --> 00:04:57,030 you can never directly lie to the House 101 00:04:53,700 --> 00:04:59,610 of Commons and if you directly lie you 102 00:04:57,030 --> 00:05:04,080 must pay immediately with your position 103 00:04:59,610 --> 00:05:07,979 you must resign be sacked but in extreme 104 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:12,000 cases the Parliament itself must deal 105 00:05:07,979 --> 00:05:15,150 with you the truth is Jack Straw is 106 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:18,840 still a privy councillor he's still the 107 00:05:15,150 --> 00:05:21,750 right honourable haha Jack Straw it's 108 00:05:18,840 --> 00:05:25,380 the right honourable David Miliband it's 109 00:05:21,750 --> 00:05:28,229 the right honourable I kid you not Tony 110 00:05:25,380 --> 00:05:31,520 Blair these people are still privy 111 00:05:28,229 --> 00:05:34,380 counsellors they are still therefore 112 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:36,840 within reach of Parliament though none 113 00:05:34,380 --> 00:05:43,590 of them are in Parliament in either 114 00:05:36,840 --> 00:05:45,389 house and it seems to me that when in 115 00:05:43,590 --> 00:05:48,870 Miliband's case it was fleeting 116 00:05:45,389 --> 00:05:51,870 he said it's simply not true that we 117 00:05:48,870 --> 00:05:55,130 allowed the use of diego garcia our base 118 00:05:51,870 --> 00:05:58,530 there for american rendition flights 119 00:05:55,130 --> 00:06:00,210 that was a lie you could see it was a 120 00:05:58,530 --> 00:06:02,100 mistake but it wasn't it wasn't a lie 121 00:06:00,210 --> 00:06:04,410 the Foreign Secretary doesn't make 122 00:06:02,100 --> 00:06:05,610 mistakes in what he says at the 123 00:06:04,410 --> 00:06:08,970 despatch-box 124 00:06:05,610 --> 00:06:13,789 it's written down by his officials but 125 00:06:08,970 --> 00:06:16,580 in jackstraws case strongly lengthy 126 00:06:13,789 --> 00:06:20,789 verbose as was his one 127 00:06:16,580 --> 00:06:22,409 lengthy denunciation of the allegations 128 00:06:20,789 --> 00:06:27,300 that Britain was involved in this 129 00:06:22,409 --> 00:06:30,479 torture and as I said accused those of 130 00:06:27,300 --> 00:06:34,280 us accusing him of being conspiracy 131 00:06:30,479 --> 00:06:41,639 theorists in other words crazy people 132 00:06:34,280 --> 00:06:44,849 mad people and this was this was 133 00:06:41,639 --> 00:06:48,030 legalized lying on a grand scale 134 00:06:44,849 --> 00:06:51,270 that cannot be allowed to go unpunished 135 00:06:48,030 --> 00:06:54,000 in my view and if it does go unpunished 136 00:06:51,270 --> 00:06:57,659 it makes a mockery of any idea that 137 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:59,190 Britain is actually a constitutional 138 00:06:57,659 --> 00:07:06,830 monarchy I don't have you've read the 139 00:06:59,190 --> 00:07:06,830 full report I have we were involved in 140 00:07:06,889 --> 00:07:16,680 795 cases of torture this from a 141 00:07:13,050 --> 00:07:23,069 government that was saying daily it was 142 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:26,849 not involved in any 795 separate human 143 00:07:23,069 --> 00:07:29,190 beings were tortured with us with skin 144 00:07:26,849 --> 00:07:31,590 in the game in staggering the status and 145 00:07:29,190 --> 00:07:33,659 quieten as well as three of the paid by 146 00:07:31,590 --> 00:07:38,520 about three of them we paid by the way 147 00:07:33,659 --> 00:07:41,009 we paid for three of the torture sorry 148 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:42,930 no it's fine that and what came off the 149 00:07:41,009 --> 00:07:44,879 back of some of these torture sessions I 150 00:07:42,930 --> 00:07:47,190 was reading was incorrect evidence as 151 00:07:44,879 --> 00:07:50,009 well it was it was proven in this we 152 00:07:47,190 --> 00:07:51,810 categorically incorrect but I think you 153 00:07:50,009 --> 00:07:54,110 will lose if I torture torture you 154 00:07:51,810 --> 00:07:56,340 you'll tell me anything of course even 155 00:07:54,110 --> 00:07:59,460 just because you think that's what I 156 00:07:56,340 --> 00:08:03,060 want you to say most of the time it's 157 00:07:59,460 --> 00:08:05,729 it's complete nonsense from being 158 00:08:03,060 --> 00:08:06,330 immoral yeah and it's been natural human 159 00:08:05,729 --> 00:08:09,659 reaction 160 00:08:06,330 --> 00:08:12,000 one is is physically and psychologically 161 00:08:09,659 --> 00:08:13,620 abusing you to such extremes you're 162 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,810 gonna do anything you can to stop that 163 00:08:13,620 --> 00:08:17,550 abuse happening and and but the you 164 00:08:15,810 --> 00:08:20,460 alluded to wide upon which I think is 165 00:08:17,550 --> 00:08:23,940 important that of course the full horror 166 00:08:20,460 --> 00:08:25,469 and the the will to act on this report 167 00:08:23,940 --> 00:08:26,940 is not there because it would then 168 00:08:25,469 --> 00:08:29,310 implicate what Cameron did with Libya 169 00:08:26,940 --> 00:08:31,830 what may has done in Syria and 170 00:08:29,310 --> 00:08:34,320 rock and that's crucial to sort of 171 00:08:31,830 --> 00:08:35,970 understanding the challenge with things 172 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:38,340 like this because this is nothing new I 173 00:08:35,970 --> 00:08:41,750 mean if you go back to 1960s in America 174 00:08:38,340 --> 00:08:44,610 they had the MKULTRA program which was 175 00:08:41,750 --> 00:08:47,400 systematic taking vulnerable people in 176 00:08:44,610 --> 00:08:50,190 American society and trialing out some 177 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:51,630 various experiments on them - with the 178 00:08:50,190 --> 00:08:53,370 beauty using torture techniques and this 179 00:08:51,630 --> 00:08:56,670 is this is carried on over the decades 180 00:08:53,370 --> 00:08:59,370 and it's it is a systemic problem if you 181 00:08:56,670 --> 00:09:01,440 like within not only our society but the 182 00:08:59,370 --> 00:09:03,690 sort of globalized order of things and 183 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:06,450 it seems acceptable to the Western 184 00:09:03,690 --> 00:09:09,510 Imperial nations that for economic and 185 00:09:06,450 --> 00:09:11,580 democratic raises they can abuse people 186 00:09:09,510 --> 00:09:13,650 from other countries bend them to their 187 00:09:11,580 --> 00:09:15,810 will to get their own way and this is a 188 00:09:13,650 --> 00:09:17,520 decades-old problem and no amount of 189 00:09:15,810 --> 00:09:19,200 reports if you like in my opinion are 190 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:22,320 going to address this it needs we need 191 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:24,210 systemic and systematic change within 192 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,740 society to address these issues because 193 00:09:24,210 --> 00:09:29,040 it's nothing new Under the Sun 194 00:09:25,740 --> 00:09:32,760 unfortunately bombing for peace drugs 195 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:36,650 are angling for Liberty that's really 196 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:40,590 where we are an extraordinary business 197 00:09:36,650 --> 00:09:43,410 extraordinary there was an almighty 198 00:09:40,590 --> 00:09:47,880 ruckus on social media this week as 199 00:09:43,410 --> 00:09:51,420 Danny Dyer star of EastEnders and 200 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:53,940 jungle-gym or British Hardman said on 201 00:09:51,420 --> 00:09:56,130 good evening Britain with Piers Morgan 202 00:09:53,940 --> 00:09:59,850 and Susanna Reid that David Cameron 203 00:09:56,130 --> 00:10:02,730 Dover Cameron that that [ __ ] [ __ ] 204 00:09:59,850 --> 00:10:04,770 where is he [ __ ] and he called David 205 00:10:02,730 --> 00:10:07,710 Cameron the [ __ ] or spell out for the 206 00:10:04,770 --> 00:10:13,080 Americans what Danny Dyer David Cameron 207 00:10:07,710 --> 00:10:15,120 or [ __ ] DW 80 it's a very actually mean 208 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:18,150 it's very derogatory phrase in British 209 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:21,300 culture it refers to and the woman's 210 00:10:18,150 --> 00:10:22,890 genitals and so date and David Cameron 211 00:10:21,300 --> 00:10:24,210 was called the [ __ ] by Danny Dyer live 212 00:10:22,890 --> 00:10:30,630 on television now I don't if you saw 213 00:10:24,210 --> 00:10:33,270 this George it was live oh you did it 214 00:10:30,630 --> 00:10:35,910 was it was the most bizarre piece of 215 00:10:33,270 --> 00:10:39,150 television because you had Danny Dyer 216 00:10:35,910 --> 00:10:42,210 flanked by the odious Piers Morgan 217 00:10:39,150 --> 00:10:43,470 flanked by airy-fairy 218 00:10:42,210 --> 00:10:45,990 daytime TV 219 00:10:43,470 --> 00:10:48,540 presenter Suzanne read flanked by Jeremy 220 00:10:45,990 --> 00:10:51,780 Corbyn and Pamela Anderson now if you'd 221 00:10:48,540 --> 00:10:53,130 have said to me in 2014 that Pamela 222 00:10:51,780 --> 00:10:54,840 Anderson Jeremy Corbyn and Danny Dyer 223 00:10:53,130 --> 00:10:57,180 would be discussing brexit with Piers 224 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,830 Morgan I would have told you you are out 225 00:10:57,180 --> 00:11:01,740 of your mind and you should be committed 226 00:10:58,830 --> 00:11:06,240 well it shows how things change it does 227 00:11:01,740 --> 00:11:08,190 I let it be known that I thought Corbin 228 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:12,230 shouldn't have done that show because 229 00:11:08,190 --> 00:11:15,180 there he was surrounded by the flailing 230 00:11:12,230 --> 00:11:20,780 breasts of Pamela Anderson formerly of 231 00:11:15,180 --> 00:11:24,810 Baywatch constituency and Danny Dyer's 232 00:11:20,780 --> 00:11:31,260 swear words for that's what is I swear 233 00:11:24,810 --> 00:11:34,350 what that's why caused a ripple and in 234 00:11:31,260 --> 00:11:36,330 the company of what seemed like I'm sure 235 00:11:34,350 --> 00:11:39,780 there was no alcohol taken a rather 236 00:11:36,330 --> 00:11:41,550 drunken raucous sure the only reason I 237 00:11:39,780 --> 00:11:45,180 saw it is because it came on right after 238 00:11:41,550 --> 00:11:50,160 the World Cup football and the prospect 239 00:11:45,180 --> 00:11:52,800 of these juxtapositions was delicious 240 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:55,110 wasn't it I had never heard of Danny 241 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,910 time okay it now turn because I've never 242 00:11:55,110 --> 00:11:58,830 seen nice tenders I've never seen 243 00:11:56,910 --> 00:12:01,830 Coronation Street and he's in one or the 244 00:11:58,830 --> 00:12:04,080 other but this no it's EastEnders cause 245 00:12:01,830 --> 00:12:06,960 is that your cockney is except he's 246 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:09,630 related to Henry the eighth in anyone's 247 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:13,940 the Confessor and William the Conqueror 248 00:12:09,630 --> 00:12:18,840 as well as unbelievably Thomas Cromwell 249 00:12:13,940 --> 00:12:21,060 the adviser to Henry the eighth's oh not 250 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:25,890 quite a salt of the earth somebody else 251 00:12:21,060 --> 00:12:30,060 lad but a blueblood then turns out he's 252 00:12:25,890 --> 00:12:32,880 got a daughter who's currently in love 253 00:12:30,060 --> 00:12:36,840 Island about which the whole of this 254 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:38,490 island appears to be talking no there 255 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:41,390 are many things that surprise you in 256 00:12:38,490 --> 00:12:45,480 life and one of them is that Steve Topol 257 00:12:41,390 --> 00:12:48,900 watches officious rumor 258 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:51,660 I watched it out of interest I have a 259 00:12:48,900 --> 00:12:53,520 friends on social media who I like 260 00:12:51,660 --> 00:12:55,890 seeing you a little bit pregnant or 261 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:57,670 you've lost your virginity a little bit 262 00:12:55,890 --> 00:13:01,600 look miss you 263 00:12:57,670 --> 00:13:03,820 love island weather for a friend for any 264 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:07,480 other reason jealous I have been hiding 265 00:13:03,820 --> 00:13:10,120 I have a friend who's a social media 266 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:11,680 reality celebrity I'm he's very nice guy 267 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,600 actually I'm and he was touted to be on 268 00:13:11,680 --> 00:13:15,550 love Islands but um it didn't come 269 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:17,980 through in the end abs didn't know 270 00:13:15,550 --> 00:13:20,110 didn't cuts the mustard is about look I 271 00:13:17,980 --> 00:13:22,810 find it I've watched a couple of times I 272 00:13:20,110 --> 00:13:24,490 find it a fascinating insight if you 273 00:13:22,810 --> 00:13:27,370 like and this is on the series now here 274 00:13:24,490 --> 00:13:30,100 a fascinating insight into the way that 275 00:13:27,370 --> 00:13:32,350 the mainstream media have facilitated by 276 00:13:30,100 --> 00:13:34,870 sort of the capitalist capitalist class 277 00:13:32,350 --> 00:13:45,190 if you like so hell-bent on dumbing the 278 00:13:34,870 --> 00:13:47,709 masses guys have been trained that you 279 00:13:45,190 --> 00:13:50,019 can get Royals and riches and anything 280 00:13:47,709 --> 00:13:52,029 you want if you'll have your 15 minutes 281 00:13:50,019 --> 00:13:54,250 of fame and the only path to happiness 282 00:13:52,029 --> 00:13:55,990 and success is through the capitalist 283 00:13:54,250 --> 00:13:58,180 system whether that be on reality talent 284 00:13:55,990 --> 00:14:00,279 shows or programs like love island and 285 00:13:58,180 --> 00:14:01,990 it's it's it's essentially a nonsense is 286 00:14:00,279 --> 00:14:04,029 I don't really even understand the 287 00:14:01,990 --> 00:14:06,190 format it's essentially people going on 288 00:14:04,029 --> 00:14:07,870 it's an orgy on Dylan 289 00:14:06,190 --> 00:14:12,670 I suppose it essentially is a sort of 290 00:14:07,870 --> 00:14:15,100 back-end laylee and kind of fair and 291 00:14:12,670 --> 00:14:17,440 people looks not necessarily their 292 00:14:15,100 --> 00:14:18,970 brains well they're not chosen for what 293 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,560 comes out of their mouth and possibly 294 00:14:18,970 --> 00:14:21,339 what goes in their mouth well that's 295 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:24,220 another story 296 00:14:21,339 --> 00:14:26,410 no it's essentially a looks paste show 297 00:14:24,220 --> 00:14:27,610 where people sort of date and the public 298 00:14:26,410 --> 00:14:29,529 vote them off if they don't think 299 00:14:27,610 --> 00:14:31,420 they're making a good couple but it is 300 00:14:29,529 --> 00:14:33,579 it's endemic of the sort of society 301 00:14:31,420 --> 00:14:34,660 we've become with this vapid celebrity 302 00:14:33,579 --> 00:14:37,180 culture that doesn't really mean 303 00:14:34,660 --> 00:14:39,220 anything it dominates now and 304 00:14:37,180 --> 00:14:41,170 unfortunately you've made very good 305 00:14:39,220 --> 00:14:42,399 point about Korbin you that's you saying 306 00:14:41,170 --> 00:14:44,589 you shouldn't do these kind of shows 307 00:14:42,399 --> 00:14:46,120 like good evening Britain which was and 308 00:14:44,589 --> 00:14:48,010 alternative good morning Britain and 309 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:50,410 it's a very interesting point because 310 00:14:48,010 --> 00:14:53,050 the sort of celebrity culture that Danny 311 00:14:50,410 --> 00:14:55,750 Dyer was also a part of is now huge and 312 00:14:53,050 --> 00:14:57,730 is there then a case for Corbin engaging 313 00:14:55,750 --> 00:14:59,810 with that and well of course there's a 314 00:14:57,730 --> 00:15:01,970 case for it 315 00:14:59,810 --> 00:15:06,620 but it has to be chosen very carefully 316 00:15:01,970 --> 00:15:09,290 and the main problem was Corbin couldn't 317 00:15:06,620 --> 00:15:11,480 join in in a conversation about Pamela 318 00:15:09,290 --> 00:15:15,650 Anderson's breasts because that would 319 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:18,710 lose him support on another part of the 320 00:15:15,650 --> 00:15:20,779 constituency yeah and by the way Pamela 321 00:15:18,710 --> 00:15:23,480 Anderson is a very clever woman and a 322 00:15:20,779 --> 00:15:26,690 very brave and politically progressive 323 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:30,350 one yes she's a visitor to Julian 324 00:15:26,690 --> 00:15:33,140 Assange in his Calvary in the Ecuadorian 325 00:15:30,350 --> 00:15:35,089 Embassy for example but that's not what 326 00:15:33,140 --> 00:15:37,430 she was on the show for she was on the 327 00:15:35,089 --> 00:15:40,850 show to talk about her breasts off to 328 00:15:37,430 --> 00:15:44,320 let men talk about our breasts and if 329 00:15:40,850 --> 00:15:49,100 you're sitting alongside someone who 330 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:51,800 curses a fellow politician of former 331 00:15:49,100 --> 00:15:54,410 prime minister you have to watch your 332 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:59,210 body language and and how you are seen 333 00:15:54,410 --> 00:16:01,610 to see smells kinda tiny smirk there was 334 00:15:59,210 --> 00:16:05,839 when he said that 335 00:16:01,610 --> 00:16:07,550 so maybe I'm right maybe I'm wrong but I 336 00:16:05,839 --> 00:16:09,890 don't think we should put Jeremy Corbyn 337 00:16:07,550 --> 00:16:12,440 on love island in the next series 338 00:16:09,890 --> 00:16:14,210 not just yet snow but I think we can 339 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:16,610 agree with the consensus that um David 340 00:16:14,210 --> 00:16:20,630 Cameron is a [ __ ] I'd go further and I'd 341 00:16:16,610 --> 00:16:23,450 say he was a Berkshire hunt a political 342 00:16:20,630 --> 00:16:27,230 earthquake occurred this week in Mexico 343 00:16:23,450 --> 00:16:30,410 which will reverberate throughout not 344 00:16:27,230 --> 00:16:34,370 just Latin America but also the United 345 00:16:30,410 --> 00:16:37,010 States of America to the victory of the 346 00:16:34,370 --> 00:16:39,830 left-wing presidential candidate I say 347 00:16:37,010 --> 00:16:43,730 victory but actually it was a landslide 348 00:16:39,830 --> 00:16:47,690 victory with 53 percent of the poll in 349 00:16:43,730 --> 00:16:51,830 the first ballot with the other two main 350 00:16:47,690 --> 00:16:57,160 candidates trailing tens of points 351 00:16:51,830 --> 00:17:00,950 behind and the ruling party the pre PRI 352 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:02,930 falling into third place as political 353 00:17:00,950 --> 00:17:04,160 earthquakes go they don't get much 354 00:17:02,930 --> 00:17:07,220 stronger than that 355 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:10,610 who is the new president and lo we 356 00:17:07,220 --> 00:17:11,689 column that's Andres Manuel Lopez 357 00:17:10,610 --> 00:17:13,490 Obrador 358 00:17:11,689 --> 00:17:16,309 but he's known on this 359 00:17:13,490 --> 00:17:19,760 Street as Amla and it's on the street 360 00:17:16,309 --> 00:17:22,130 that he had his biggest impact as a 361 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:25,220 matter of fact he comes from the street 362 00:17:22,130 --> 00:17:28,610 and is about to return to the street 363 00:17:25,220 --> 00:17:31,580 because he's moving out before he moves 364 00:17:28,610 --> 00:17:34,520 in or Mexico's presidential palace and 365 00:17:31,580 --> 00:17:38,929 he's turning the palace into an art 366 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:43,910 gallery he's slashing his own salary and 367 00:17:38,929 --> 00:17:47,720 he's dedicated to the 44% of Mexicans 368 00:17:43,910 --> 00:17:52,610 who live below the poverty line 369 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:55,520 he's also determined to change the way 370 00:17:52,610 --> 00:17:59,390 that the corrupt political class in 371 00:17:55,520 --> 00:18:02,320 Mexico enriched themselves beyond the 372 00:17:59,390 --> 00:18:05,710 dreams of avarice whilst gunning down 373 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:08,990 anyone that stands in their way 374 00:18:05,710 --> 00:18:12,490 300,000 people have been murdered in 375 00:18:08,990 --> 00:18:17,929 Mexico during the so-called war on drugs 376 00:18:12,490 --> 00:18:21,200 which is usually cover for other score 377 00:18:17,929 --> 00:18:23,990 settling and keeping in power of the 378 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:27,260 oligarchy Steve this must have made a 379 00:18:23,990 --> 00:18:28,970 big impact on you as it did on me he 380 00:18:27,260 --> 00:18:31,820 sounds like our sound sort of guy you 381 00:18:28,970 --> 00:18:35,150 know it's a fascinating result I mean if 382 00:18:31,820 --> 00:18:37,429 he's not least he's smashed a hundred 383 00:18:35,150 --> 00:18:39,260 years or so of a two-party system in 384 00:18:37,429 --> 00:18:41,870 Mexico which is done which was to cheeks 385 00:18:39,260 --> 00:18:44,660 of the same art as yes exactly as most 386 00:18:41,870 --> 00:18:46,850 of our democracies are smashed that 387 00:18:44,660 --> 00:18:49,850 two-party system he comes across with 388 00:18:46,850 --> 00:18:52,100 some very radical stances on things he 389 00:18:49,850 --> 00:18:53,750 wants to me he look at the North 390 00:18:52,100 --> 00:18:56,110 American Free Trade Agreement doesn't he 391 00:18:53,750 --> 00:18:58,670 NAFTA he's immediately putting a halt to 392 00:18:56,110 --> 00:19:00,230 negotiations with that I believe and 393 00:18:58,670 --> 00:19:02,360 he's certainly not gonna pay for Donald 394 00:19:00,230 --> 00:19:04,040 Trump's wall well they'll see that's 395 00:19:02,360 --> 00:19:07,670 interesting because Trump being Trump 396 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:10,820 tweeted congratulatory dulcet tones 397 00:19:07,670 --> 00:19:12,050 towards AMLO and then he also tweeted 398 00:19:10,820 --> 00:19:13,520 something that's and he hopes about to 399 00:19:12,050 --> 00:19:16,520 work with him to help build the wall I 400 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:18,170 can't see that happening it is 401 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:20,690 fascinating I mean he seems to be 402 00:19:18,170 --> 00:19:21,950 putting sort of democratic socialist 403 00:19:20,690 --> 00:19:24,080 values at the heart of what he does he 404 00:19:21,950 --> 00:19:24,800 talks a lot about raising the minimum 405 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,320 wage 406 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:29,240 workers to lift people out of poverty 407 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:31,250 he's spoke a lot about pensions he's 408 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:33,380 spoken a lot about infrastructure it's 409 00:19:31,250 --> 00:19:34,730 he's making a lot of noises off which 410 00:19:33,380 --> 00:19:36,950 seem to be correct if you like and you 411 00:19:34,730 --> 00:19:40,910 can't deny I mean a massive massive 412 00:19:36,950 --> 00:19:43,280 majority I'm slightly I sit on the 413 00:19:40,910 --> 00:19:45,230 earring towards caution fence on this 414 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:47,300 just because of unrest hear your 415 00:19:45,230 --> 00:19:49,100 thoughts just because of some of the 416 00:19:47,300 --> 00:19:52,750 things I've heard him saying I know he's 417 00:19:49,100 --> 00:19:55,550 mentioned he said in the speech to a 418 00:19:52,750 --> 00:19:57,400 conglomeration of banking institutions 419 00:19:55,550 --> 00:19:59,930 in Mexico that he wasn't going to 420 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:02,330 disrupt the Mexican economy and that 421 00:19:59,930 --> 00:20:04,450 they were safe with his support he said 422 00:20:02,330 --> 00:20:06,710 there's no chance of them being 423 00:20:04,450 --> 00:20:08,500 nationalized or anything such with real 424 00:20:06,710 --> 00:20:10,580 as infrastructure I know he's looking at 425 00:20:08,500 --> 00:20:12,290 public-private partnerships to get 426 00:20:10,580 --> 00:20:15,260 infrastructure off its ground now I'm 427 00:20:12,290 --> 00:20:18,920 mindful of the fact that we see the 428 00:20:15,260 --> 00:20:20,750 situation where Mexico has had decades 429 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:23,210 off the decades after decades of corrupt 430 00:20:20,750 --> 00:20:24,980 rule that has no regard for the working 431 00:20:23,210 --> 00:20:26,720 classes and so it's going to take a hell 432 00:20:24,980 --> 00:20:28,250 of a lot to turn that around I think 433 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,890 you're absolutely right to be cautious 434 00:20:28,250 --> 00:20:34,130 he's not Hugo Chavez even less is he 435 00:20:30,890 --> 00:20:36,740 Fidel Castro yeah the question for us is 436 00:20:34,130 --> 00:20:40,160 easy Jeremy Corbyn or is he Tony Blair 437 00:20:36,740 --> 00:20:42,470 and I think myself he's more carbon than 438 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:44,390 Blair matter of fact and one of the many 439 00:20:42,470 --> 00:20:47,630 interesting things about this election 440 00:20:44,390 --> 00:20:50,900 was that he's a 64 year old Silver Fox 441 00:20:47,630 --> 00:20:54,410 that tens of millions of young people in 442 00:20:50,900 --> 00:20:56,150 Mexico regard as a hero ring Lee bells 443 00:20:54,410 --> 00:20:59,570 ring any bells 444 00:20:56,150 --> 00:21:02,270 exactly I was on the Jeremy Vine show on 445 00:20:59,570 --> 00:21:04,460 BBC and made exactly that point at which 446 00:21:02,270 --> 00:21:06,830 point the BBC moved swiftly on they 447 00:21:04,460 --> 00:21:09,580 didn't want any comparisons but in fact 448 00:21:06,830 --> 00:21:13,250 there is a comparison at least in 449 00:21:09,580 --> 00:21:16,310 rhetorical terms AMLO is more carbon 450 00:21:13,250 --> 00:21:19,340 than Blair but you're right in the mood 451 00:21:16,310 --> 00:21:23,230 music that is played for the bankers and 452 00:21:19,340 --> 00:21:25,490 the industrialists and the rich and on 453 00:21:23,230 --> 00:21:28,520 public-private partnerships what could 454 00:21:25,490 --> 00:21:32,300 possibly go wrong with them he's 455 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:35,840 definitely seeking not to frighten the 456 00:21:32,300 --> 00:21:37,779 horses yes but in the context of a 457 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:41,409 hundred years of nothing 458 00:21:37,779 --> 00:21:44,229 of complete hegemony of the arse even 459 00:21:41,409 --> 00:21:47,979 though I had latterly only latterly two 460 00:21:44,229 --> 00:21:50,619 cheeks it's a tremendously dynamic 461 00:21:47,979 --> 00:21:54,039 situation that has now been unleashed 462 00:21:50,619 --> 00:21:57,960 because if your caution and to some 463 00:21:54,039 --> 00:22:01,960 extent mine is right and he disappoints 464 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:05,619 the people who flooded out vote for them 465 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:08,889 and on precedented numbers then that 466 00:22:05,619 --> 00:22:13,149 won't make the demands of those people 467 00:22:08,889 --> 00:22:17,200 go away it'll merely need to another 468 00:22:13,149 --> 00:22:18,460 stage of the struggle but I'll tell you 469 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:21,309 something else that happened on the 470 00:22:18,460 --> 00:22:24,659 Latin American front or at least on the 471 00:22:21,309 --> 00:22:28,119 front of American Latinas and Latinos 472 00:22:24,659 --> 00:22:30,849 was the stunning victory in the Bronx in 473 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:34,330 New York City in the primary election 474 00:22:30,849 --> 00:22:36,639 for the Congressional place including 475 00:22:34,330 --> 00:22:38,409 the Bronx you want to go see the what 476 00:22:36,639 --> 00:22:43,989 the Bronx you get a picture of the kind 477 00:22:38,409 --> 00:22:45,089 of place that it is a 28 year old latina 478 00:22:43,989 --> 00:22:51,399 woman 479 00:22:45,089 --> 00:22:53,320 Alexandria Ocasio Cortes swept to the 480 00:22:51,399 --> 00:22:57,239 Democratic Party's nomination even 481 00:22:53,320 --> 00:23:02,349 though she stood explicitly as a 482 00:22:57,239 --> 00:23:07,589 socialist capital S follower of Bernie 483 00:23:02,349 --> 00:23:10,839 Sanders and was opposing a ten-time 484 00:23:07,589 --> 00:23:14,019 congressman part of the Democratic Party 485 00:23:10,839 --> 00:23:19,619 establishment a Clinton eye you might 486 00:23:14,019 --> 00:23:23,080 say and this young woman an engineer 487 00:23:19,619 --> 00:23:24,429 from a working-class background very 488 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:28,710 beautiful young woman 489 00:23:24,429 --> 00:23:33,149 dashing swept to power she absolutely 490 00:23:28,710 --> 00:23:36,489 annihilated her 10th I'm a congressman 491 00:23:33,149 --> 00:23:41,169 opponent and the Democratic Party is now 492 00:23:36,489 --> 00:23:45,729 in a state of panic is the Democratic 493 00:23:41,169 --> 00:23:49,430 Party the party of Sanders and Ocasio 494 00:23:45,729 --> 00:23:53,270 Cortes or is it the party of Hillary 495 00:23:49,430 --> 00:23:56,330 and these others who led the Democratic 496 00:23:53,270 --> 00:23:59,300 Party to disaster by forcing Hillary 497 00:23:56,330 --> 00:24:02,240 Clinton as the candidate which led 498 00:23:59,300 --> 00:24:03,770 directly to president Trump absolutely I 499 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,660 don't think it can be underestimated 500 00:24:03,770 --> 00:24:07,640 just what this young woman has done 501 00:24:05,660 --> 00:24:10,460 because it is now opened up that 502 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:14,090 Pandora's box with which the Democrats 503 00:24:10,460 --> 00:24:16,190 try to firmly shut in the 2016 504 00:24:14,090 --> 00:24:18,410 presidential election of well you say 505 00:24:16,190 --> 00:24:21,230 what does the Democratic Party stand for 506 00:24:18,410 --> 00:24:23,330 because if she's won on this capital s 507 00:24:21,230 --> 00:24:25,760 socialist platform in the Bronx which 508 00:24:23,330 --> 00:24:28,460 albeit okay so it's a poor working-class 509 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:32,000 sort of traditional us big-city 510 00:24:28,460 --> 00:24:33,950 community the possibility is now endless 511 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,780 and the question is very big for the 512 00:24:33,950 --> 00:24:38,270 Democrat wash as she pointed out when 513 00:24:35,780 --> 00:24:40,340 the Democratic establishment said well 514 00:24:38,270 --> 00:24:42,830 that can win in the Bronx but it can't 515 00:24:40,340 --> 00:24:46,430 win in the Midwest she pointed out that 516 00:24:42,830 --> 00:24:49,010 Bernie Sanders won the primary in all of 517 00:24:46,430 --> 00:24:51,440 the crucial Midwestern states like 518 00:24:49,010 --> 00:24:54,350 Wisconsin like Pennsylvania like 519 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,880 Michigan that Hillary Clinton lost to 520 00:24:54,350 --> 00:24:59,960 Donald Trump 521 00:24:55,880 --> 00:25:03,530 so it's a tremendous new twist in in 522 00:24:59,960 --> 00:25:06,560 u.s. politics and of course the 523 00:25:03,530 --> 00:25:08,450 establishment don't know whether to try 524 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:11,720 and embrace this young woman and pull 525 00:25:08,450 --> 00:25:14,900 her towards them or push and repeal this 526 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:18,170 young woman as something other some kind 527 00:25:14,900 --> 00:25:20,660 of alien they don't know what to do one 528 00:25:18,170 --> 00:25:25,730 of them immediately tweeted that this is 529 00:25:20,660 --> 00:25:28,370 the the fruition of Hillary Clinton's 530 00:25:25,730 --> 00:25:30,920 run for the presidency shows that the 531 00:25:28,370 --> 00:25:33,680 glass ceiling has been broken and women 532 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:35,960 can win this despite them throwing the 533 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:38,750 kitchen sink at the woman when she was 534 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:42,590 running and despite the fact that she 535 00:25:38,750 --> 00:25:45,800 was a key ally of Bernie Sanders who I 536 00:25:42,590 --> 00:25:47,900 repeat was cheated of the Democratic 537 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:51,080 party's nomination and if he had not 538 00:25:47,900 --> 00:25:54,620 been we'd now be talking about president 539 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:57,490 Bernie Sanders coming to London next 540 00:25:54,620 --> 00:26:00,710 week just think about that 541 00:25:57,490 --> 00:26:03,320 so we currently had a tale of two 542 00:26:00,710 --> 00:26:05,600 tournaments going on to bring back my um 543 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:08,720 my my Danny Dyer impression we currently 544 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:12,080 after the Russian World Cup lurching 545 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:13,940 from success to success and then off the 546 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:16,130 back of that starting with this week we 547 00:26:13,940 --> 00:26:18,200 have the pinnacle of establishment 548 00:26:16,130 --> 00:26:22,640 pageantry Wimbledon starting don't you 549 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:26,210 George we do as far away on the other 550 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:28,610 side of London but I just want to add to 551 00:26:26,210 --> 00:26:30,590 the point you just made if it had been 552 00:26:28,610 --> 00:26:34,250 left up to the Blair right 553 00:26:30,590 --> 00:26:37,040 Labour MP like Stephen Kinnick this 554 00:26:34,250 --> 00:26:39,830 world cup would have been sort of been 555 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:43,580 yes the greatest World Cup in history I 556 00:26:39,830 --> 00:26:45,830 would argue but Wimbledon mmm is in the 557 00:26:43,580 --> 00:26:50,840 news for all kinds of reasons it is 558 00:26:45,830 --> 00:26:53,060 first of all Andrew Murray who's British 559 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:55,850 when he's winning and Scottish when he's 560 00:26:53,060 --> 00:27:00,050 losing has had to pull up so there will 561 00:26:55,850 --> 00:27:00,530 be no Murray Hill as there's no Tim 562 00:27:00,050 --> 00:27:02,570 Henman 563 00:27:00,530 --> 00:27:05,900 because that Hill used to be called 564 00:27:02,570 --> 00:27:09,110 Inman Hill the British have nobody to 565 00:27:05,900 --> 00:27:11,300 cheer for now in their own flagship 566 00:27:09,110 --> 00:27:15,160 tennis tournament because money's pulled 567 00:27:11,300 --> 00:27:18,500 up because of injury but the biggest 568 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:22,480 scandal I saw in the middle of a drought 569 00:27:18,500 --> 00:27:26,180 with the grass turning golden everywhere 570 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:29,840 the Wimbledon officials are confiscating 571 00:27:26,180 --> 00:27:33,470 people's water when they bring it in and 572 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:36,470 you've got to pay them to keep your 573 00:27:33,470 --> 00:27:39,020 water in their cloakroom because of 574 00:27:36,470 --> 00:27:41,060 course they want you to buy their drinks 575 00:27:39,020 --> 00:27:44,030 there's not tell you everything about 576 00:27:41,060 --> 00:27:46,730 the class composition of the World Cup 577 00:27:44,030 --> 00:27:49,130 compared to I think it does yes I mean 578 00:27:46,730 --> 00:27:50,990 this is the World Cup and look I 579 00:27:49,130 --> 00:27:52,610 admitted on last week's show and nothing 580 00:27:50,990 --> 00:27:54,830 to beat before showing maybe the week 581 00:27:52,610 --> 00:27:57,380 before that and I'm no football 582 00:27:54,830 --> 00:27:58,640 aficionado George um however I have got 583 00:27:57,380 --> 00:28:00,830 quite into the World Cup I've been 584 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,510 watching I saw a fantastic goal from 585 00:28:00,830 --> 00:28:04,580 Japan I think last night and I'll be 586 00:28:02,510 --> 00:28:05,090 watching the England England match again 587 00:28:04,580 --> 00:28:08,630 later 588 00:28:05,090 --> 00:28:10,940 um but III think it's spectacular how 589 00:28:08,630 --> 00:28:12,919 well the world cuts go on and then 590 00:28:10,940 --> 00:28:16,720 most unbelievable it is unbelievable 591 00:28:12,919 --> 00:28:18,979 that's because the British royals of 592 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:21,499 Indies and then do that quite nicely 593 00:28:18,979 --> 00:28:24,049 leads us into the point about Wimbledon 594 00:28:21,499 --> 00:28:26,419 it is just endemic of the British 595 00:28:24,049 --> 00:28:28,129 establishment classes attitudes a sport 596 00:28:26,419 --> 00:28:30,409 if you're liking especially tennis 597 00:28:28,129 --> 00:28:32,269 there's somehow no realm thrown you the 598 00:28:30,409 --> 00:28:38,869 Witch and rich and well-heeled if you 599 00:28:32,269 --> 00:28:42,739 like it is the until Wimbledon is 600 00:28:38,869 --> 00:28:46,009 stormed by the working-class yes the 601 00:28:42,739 --> 00:28:48,769 song culottes all mineral water and 602 00:28:46,009 --> 00:28:54,200 hymns and liberated and distributed 603 00:28:48,769 --> 00:28:56,330 freely among our country in daily 3x 604 00:28:54,200 --> 00:29:00,109 procreate the strawberries that's why I 605 00:28:56,330 --> 00:29:03,950 say the cream yes and the scones 606 00:29:00,109 --> 00:29:06,649 team is quite I think I did but I think 607 00:29:03,950 --> 00:29:07,970 it's a Liza is a fascinating example of 608 00:29:06,649 --> 00:29:10,279 the establishment classes that should 609 00:29:07,970 --> 00:29:12,739 sport and it is it's this exclusionary 610 00:29:10,279 --> 00:29:15,349 tactics the about oh nobody dies of 611 00:29:12,739 --> 00:29:17,450 thirst amid this painting as heat into 612 00:29:15,349 --> 00:29:21,019 image and so that the water they brought 613 00:29:17,450 --> 00:29:24,169 was confiscated by the Blazers of the 614 00:29:21,019 --> 00:29:28,720 Wimbledon tennis club was at the lawn 615 00:29:24,169 --> 00:29:34,460 tennis or Zee Tennis Association yes 616 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:36,559 well that's all for us we we have indeed 617 00:29:34,460 --> 00:29:37,639 and as always if you want to get in 618 00:29:36,559 --> 00:29:40,279 touch you could have anything you'd like 619 00:29:37,639 --> 00:29:42,799 to ask any topics you think we should 620 00:29:40,279 --> 00:29:43,580 lift out from under our hats as we 621 00:29:42,799 --> 00:29:46,580 always do 622 00:29:43,580 --> 00:29:48,529 that's them our way will happily receive 623 00:29:46,580 --> 00:29:51,259 your own proverbial tennis balls balls 624 00:29:48,529 --> 00:29:53,629 by a Twitter contact us at mr. topple or 625 00:29:51,259 --> 00:29:59,090 at George Galloway until next week take 626 00:29:53,629 --> 00:30:03,320 care of yourselves don't be a twit just 627 00:29:59,090 --> 00:30:06,769 one more thing Jack Straw extraordinary 628 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:09,049 rendition Diego Garcia this is nothing 629 00:30:06,769 --> 00:30:11,389 new Under the Sun this has been going on 630 00:30:09,049 --> 00:30:14,720 to the best of our knowledge since at 631 00:30:11,389 --> 00:30:17,359 least the 1960s with the now infamous MK 632 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:19,460 ULTRA program where the US government's 633 00:30:17,359 --> 00:30:20,869 and the CIA took some of the most 634 00:30:19,460 --> 00:30:23,299 vulnerable people in society and 635 00:30:20,869 --> 00:30:24,260 experimented on them to use as a 636 00:30:23,299 --> 00:30:26,840 blueprint for their 637 00:30:24,260 --> 00:30:28,970 torture programs abroad it's nothing new 638 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,920 for all we know and the likelihood is 639 00:30:28,970 --> 00:30:32,840 it's still going on to this day under 640 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,940 Teresa Mays government and Donald 641 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:37,370 Trump's administration and this is the 642 00:30:34,940 --> 00:30:39,500 point is now Emma Klein described in her 643 00:30:37,370 --> 00:30:41,630 book the Shock Doctrine the shock is 644 00:30:39,500 --> 00:30:43,670 quite often physical with Western powers 645 00:30:41,630 --> 00:30:45,860 torturing suspects to get information 646 00:30:43,670 --> 00:30:48,770 out of them but the shock is also one of 647 00:30:45,860 --> 00:30:51,170 the system itself whereby the US and the 648 00:30:48,770 --> 00:30:53,720 UK torturing people to impose their will 649 00:30:51,170 --> 00:30:56,210 and get their own way in countries for 650 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:58,910 economic and power reasons until we have 651 00:30:56,210 --> 00:31:00,650 a systemic change within society none of 652 00:30:58,910 --> 00:31:02,660 this is going to change and it is going 653 00:31:00,650 --> 00:31:07,580 to continue just as it has since the 654 00:31:02,660 --> 00:31:11,060 sixties ah Mexico so far from God so 655 00:31:07,580 --> 00:31:15,350 close to the United States AM law has 656 00:31:11,060 --> 00:31:18,140 got a task on his plate how to develop 657 00:31:15,350 --> 00:31:21,470 an independent country of a hundred and 658 00:31:18,140 --> 00:31:24,710 twenty seven million people half of whom 659 00:31:21,470 --> 00:31:27,110 live below the poverty line and many of 660 00:31:24,710 --> 00:31:30,140 the rest are the richest people on the 661 00:31:27,110 --> 00:31:32,840 earth with Donald Trump insulting us 662 00:31:30,140 --> 00:31:35,810 gypsies tramps and thieves as the old 663 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:38,900 song put it and trying to build a wall 664 00:31:35,810 --> 00:31:41,150 between the two countries and making you 665 00:31:38,900 --> 00:31:44,090 pay for it I don't know who the props 666 00:31:41,150 --> 00:31:48,650 department is but these glasses aren't 667 00:31:44,090 --> 00:31:53,210 fit for purpose the question is is AMLO 668 00:31:48,650 --> 00:31:58,610 fit for purpose is he Jeremy Corbyn or 669 00:31:53,210 --> 00:32:02,080 is he Tony Blair the jury is out as are 670 00:31:58,610 --> 00:32:02,080 we see you next week 671 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:09,089 [Music]