1 00:00:05,450 --> 00:00:13,200 I'm George Galloway I'm stable together 2 00:00:09,120 --> 00:00:15,120 we are topple Galloway Steve have you 3 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:17,850 just been released from the jungle and 4 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:20,160 that now I haven't this is this is the 5 00:00:17,850 --> 00:00:22,580 finest added icy Bay on the chief can 6 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:26,369 buy absolutely no I mention it because 7 00:00:22,580 --> 00:00:31,199 how do you read not one Haddie okay Ari 8 00:00:26,369 --> 00:00:34,050 as they call him down in the South was a 9 00:00:31,199 --> 00:00:36,300 triumph and the reason he was a triumph 10 00:00:34,050 --> 00:00:41,550 was cause he was genuine and authentic 11 00:00:36,300 --> 00:00:45,180 and unspun is their Jeremy Corbyn of I'm 12 00:00:41,550 --> 00:00:47,789 a celebrity and really it's a remarkable 13 00:00:45,180 --> 00:00:50,070 snipe I'm the only man perhaps certainly 14 00:00:47,789 --> 00:00:53,390 the first to make it mmm but Harry 15 00:00:50,070 --> 00:00:57,210 Redknapp won that contest by public vote 16 00:00:53,390 --> 00:01:00,690 because he's everything that carbon is 17 00:00:57,210 --> 00:01:05,810 he's got no sight what you see is what 18 00:01:00,690 --> 00:01:08,820 you get certain political you know 19 00:01:05,810 --> 00:01:10,830 incorrect necessity mean he said of one 20 00:01:08,820 --> 00:01:13,640 of the female members of the camp 21 00:01:10,830 --> 00:01:17,070 she'd be useful if she was scrubbed up 22 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:18,810 and so that falls down on to couch now 23 00:01:17,070 --> 00:01:20,820 Germany would never say not anything 24 00:01:18,810 --> 00:01:24,150 like that but you get my point 25 00:01:20,820 --> 00:01:26,340 yeah this is a working class hero Harry 26 00:01:24,150 --> 00:01:28,979 Redknapp's a working class hero Jeremy 27 00:01:26,340 --> 00:01:32,090 Corbyn is a working class hero I think 28 00:01:28,979 --> 00:01:35,939 it's very portentous you may not agree 29 00:01:32,090 --> 00:01:36,960 now obviously I've been watching I'm 30 00:01:35,939 --> 00:01:43,560 just lever to get me out of here 31 00:01:36,960 --> 00:01:45,180 religiously use me boy however read some 32 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,649 headlines and there was a talk he was 33 00:01:45,180 --> 00:01:48,509 going to leave at one point and then 34 00:01:46,649 --> 00:01:51,030 what wait actually it's a good way to 35 00:01:48,509 --> 00:01:52,829 lose a few pounds you lost nearly as 36 00:01:51,030 --> 00:01:54,659 daunting and I think he looks better for 37 00:01:52,829 --> 00:01:58,259 it the Galloway diet plan bugs and 38 00:01:54,659 --> 00:01:59,790 kangaroo anus there we go and I've read 39 00:01:58,259 --> 00:02:01,469 for you Anna but I think you're I think 40 00:01:59,790 --> 00:02:02,880 you're onto something actually because 41 00:02:01,469 --> 00:02:05,340 it's very interesting that's because 42 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:07,970 this has got it got dicey visa highest 43 00:02:05,340 --> 00:02:12,490 rating yeah the year 44 00:02:07,970 --> 00:02:14,300 a big celebrity blind brain bleached 45 00:02:12,490 --> 00:02:16,100 which can 46 00:02:14,300 --> 00:02:17,570 stupefy the masses into ignoring 47 00:02:16,100 --> 00:02:19,280 everything else is going on however I 48 00:02:17,570 --> 00:02:21,110 think you might be onto something with 49 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:23,390 the fact that he won in the relation to 50 00:02:21,110 --> 00:02:26,120 Corbin because it obviously shows that 51 00:02:23,390 --> 00:02:27,950 in the public psyche the millions of 52 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:30,230 people who watch this but of 53 00:02:27,950 --> 00:02:30,890 interestingly may not be interested in 54 00:02:30,230 --> 00:02:34,190 politics 55 00:02:30,890 --> 00:02:36,410 so obviously hunkering after as some 56 00:02:34,190 --> 00:02:38,840 sort of something to look up to and I 57 00:02:36,410 --> 00:02:42,940 the miracle-working at last you're 58 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:47,510 looking for your uncle Nick kindly wise 59 00:02:42,940 --> 00:02:49,730 steady uncle and Corbin is that in the 60 00:02:47,510 --> 00:02:53,900 political field certainly by comparison 61 00:02:49,730 --> 00:02:56,780 with the others like that yeah and Harry 62 00:02:53,900 --> 00:03:01,130 was that in the jungle they were the 63 00:02:56,780 --> 00:03:04,970 other airbrushed celebrities craft and 64 00:03:01,130 --> 00:03:07,520 so on have have all fallen by the 65 00:03:04,970 --> 00:03:10,550 wayside and however one I bumped into in 66 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:12,230 a cafe I'm glad to see a cafe because he 67 00:03:10,550 --> 00:03:16,310 was once upon a time never out at the 68 00:03:12,230 --> 00:03:19,519 pub okay Anthony from x-factor the 69 00:03:16,310 --> 00:03:23,959 Liverpool guy now Anthony got to the 70 00:03:19,519 --> 00:03:25,760 final yet if you saw and heard them you 71 00:03:23,959 --> 00:03:27,709 wouldn't have been surprised and if he 72 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:31,610 was in handcuffs on his way to the Nick 73 00:03:27,709 --> 00:03:34,810 in the streets of Liverpool rough a 74 00:03:31,610 --> 00:03:38,360 rough diamond not a diamond nonetheless 75 00:03:34,810 --> 00:03:40,940 as working classes it's possible to be 76 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:43,610 he got all the way to the final in the 77 00:03:40,940 --> 00:03:46,430 x-factor whilst loads of airbrushed 78 00:03:43,610 --> 00:03:50,690 trolley dollies and the women were worse 79 00:03:46,430 --> 00:03:54,560 he fell by the wayside so I think it's 80 00:03:50,690 --> 00:03:57,230 the age of the Anthony's the Harris and 81 00:03:54,560 --> 00:04:01,370 the Jeremy's and maybe making too much 82 00:03:57,230 --> 00:04:03,950 of this but I think the fact that how he 83 00:04:01,370 --> 00:04:06,830 looked right from the start as the guy 84 00:04:03,950 --> 00:04:09,110 that could go all the way he's the best 85 00:04:06,830 --> 00:04:10,580 England manager of the England never had 86 00:04:09,110 --> 00:04:13,640 my jaw they're doing all right well 87 00:04:10,580 --> 00:04:16,669 another quite playing guy was always 88 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:19,810 cool just like me and that whole debate 89 00:04:16,669 --> 00:04:19,810 went over my head 90 00:04:21,459 --> 00:04:26,370 [Music] 91 00:04:22,699 --> 00:04:28,889 I'll forgive you dear viewers if your 92 00:04:26,370 --> 00:04:30,960 heads have temporarily exploded and you 93 00:04:28,889 --> 00:04:33,150 are unable to watch topple Galilei this 94 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:35,849 week because if you have been trying to 95 00:04:33,150 --> 00:04:37,770 keep up with the ongoing brexit shambles 96 00:04:35,849 --> 00:04:39,449 as it's being called then you probably 97 00:04:37,770 --> 00:04:40,949 haven't been able to because me as a 98 00:04:39,449 --> 00:04:42,720 journalist who gets paid to do this 99 00:04:40,949 --> 00:04:45,780 stuff is struggling to keep up as well 100 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:49,050 we've learnt from the votes on Bret's 101 00:04:45,780 --> 00:04:51,030 attempt we the the votes coming ahead 102 00:04:49,050 --> 00:04:52,590 then suddenly wasn't going ahead then 103 00:04:51,030 --> 00:04:54,000 the googling Court of Justice saying 104 00:04:52,590 --> 00:04:56,520 that we can cancel the whole damn thing 105 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:58,199 anyway then Theresa May flying off to 106 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:00,659 the Hague when we were all hoping it was 107 00:04:58,199 --> 00:05:02,580 over Yemen and do a report from Phillip 108 00:05:00,659 --> 00:05:04,409 Ulster moochers actually off to have 109 00:05:02,580 --> 00:05:07,289 breakfast with the dutch prime minister 110 00:05:04,409 --> 00:05:09,990 um and as it stands a time of recording 111 00:05:07,289 --> 00:05:13,319 this gorge of magic a caveat because 112 00:05:09,990 --> 00:05:15,629 actually by the end of this day the vote 113 00:05:13,319 --> 00:05:18,000 that was cancelled may be back on again 114 00:05:15,629 --> 00:05:22,979 because pollen is going to vote today on 115 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:26,130 whether to vote darren i on the brexit 116 00:05:22,979 --> 00:05:30,509 deal this this is a deal that treasom a 117 00:05:26,130 --> 00:05:35,219 said was the deal the best deal the only 118 00:05:30,509 --> 00:05:37,740 deal the unimprovable deal but she's now 119 00:05:35,219 --> 00:05:40,680 as you say in the hague trying to 120 00:05:37,740 --> 00:05:44,630 improve it yeah having told us and the 121 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:48,900 EU having told us that it was not really 122 00:05:44,630 --> 00:05:53,940 no it isn't renegotiate all what 123 00:05:48,900 --> 00:05:57,930 gingka said today is that it's not up 124 00:05:53,940 --> 00:05:59,669 for renegotiation more clarification is 125 00:05:57,930 --> 00:06:03,479 possible time so it's a clarification 126 00:05:59,669 --> 00:06:05,039 and and and legal and something legal 127 00:06:03,479 --> 00:06:08,370 with clarification as well are things 128 00:06:05,039 --> 00:06:10,500 well the idea of that the mass revolt in 129 00:06:08,370 --> 00:06:12,750 the House of Commons that made a pull of 130 00:06:10,500 --> 00:06:18,120 all in the first place is going to be 131 00:06:12,750 --> 00:06:21,629 ass waged by you know mere warm words if 132 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:23,639 Juncker is capable of warm words I mean 133 00:06:21,629 --> 00:06:26,639 one of the things that stands out for me 134 00:06:23,639 --> 00:06:29,680 in this whole period is just how ugly 135 00:06:26,639 --> 00:06:33,520 and how cold 136 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:36,400 impersonal brutish the leaders of the EU 137 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:38,050 are I mean to paraphrase Groucho Marx 138 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:41,020 anybody that would have them in that 139 00:06:38,050 --> 00:06:43,180 club I wouldn't want to join they're not 140 00:06:41,020 --> 00:06:47,220 just in the club they're running the 141 00:06:43,180 --> 00:06:50,530 club but drinkers warm words won't 142 00:06:47,220 --> 00:06:53,770 butter any parsnips on the benches of 143 00:06:50,530 --> 00:06:56,620 the DUP all the benches of the Tory 144 00:06:53,770 --> 00:06:58,930 brexit ears so I'm not sure what this 145 00:06:56,620 --> 00:07:00,900 postponement was all about unless 146 00:06:58,930 --> 00:07:04,419 there's something we don't yet know 147 00:07:00,900 --> 00:07:06,760 because I mean she's only boss off time 148 00:07:04,419 --> 00:07:08,680 yeah but how much time a day three days 149 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:11,380 is it that good being Prime Minister 150 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:15,280 that you are actually going to be on a 151 00:07:11,380 --> 00:07:18,940 zero hours contract and and not know if 152 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:22,360 you're of you going work tomorrow or or 153 00:07:18,940 --> 00:07:24,160 the rest of this week it's it's quite 154 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:26,350 unprecedented I as you know been in 155 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:28,510 politics a long time don't tell the wife 156 00:07:26,350 --> 00:07:31,720 what she thinks I'm 45 but I've been in 157 00:07:28,510 --> 00:07:34,360 politics for 50 years and I was in 158 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:36,099 Parliament for almost 30 years I lived 159 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:38,500 through Black Wednesday I lived through 160 00:07:36,099 --> 00:07:41,410 mrs. Thatcher being overthrown in 161 00:07:38,500 --> 00:07:44,500 Parliament and I have never seen chaos 162 00:07:41,410 --> 00:07:47,130 like this okay and I always know where 163 00:07:44,500 --> 00:07:49,750 things are headed or think I do 164 00:07:47,130 --> 00:07:53,830 sometimes I'm right I was wrong in I 165 00:07:49,750 --> 00:07:55,870 think 1977-78 something like that but I 166 00:07:53,830 --> 00:07:58,090 always think I know where things are 167 00:07:55,870 --> 00:08:00,099 headed but I have no idea where this is 168 00:07:58,090 --> 00:08:02,410 headed you know are we brakes thing are 169 00:08:00,099 --> 00:08:05,560 we not is there a general election is 170 00:08:02,410 --> 00:08:08,380 there not it does trees Omega overthrown 171 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:10,389 does she stagger on does the Tory Party 172 00:08:08,380 --> 00:08:12,910 split does the Labour Party split 173 00:08:10,389 --> 00:08:16,720 they're all of these and many more are 174 00:08:12,910 --> 00:08:18,849 options in this utterly tumultuous 175 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,440 unpredictable time there is it's 176 00:08:18,849 --> 00:08:24,940 absolutely staggering I mean as you say 177 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:26,979 I I have no idea either and I I never 178 00:08:24,940 --> 00:08:28,300 expected I would to be on this day I 179 00:08:26,979 --> 00:08:31,690 couldn't predict what's going to happen 180 00:08:28,300 --> 00:08:33,580 here I mean as things stands as we're 181 00:08:31,690 --> 00:08:37,180 recording on Tuesday we haven't had 182 00:08:33,580 --> 00:08:39,520 school things emergency debates yet what 183 00:08:37,180 --> 00:08:42,310 is most interesting though for me and 184 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,030 all of this is what's going on in labour 185 00:08:42,310 --> 00:08:45,700 because 186 00:08:43,030 --> 00:08:49,150 currently you have around 50 MPs led by 187 00:08:45,700 --> 00:08:51,430 the obnoxious Ian Murray supported by 188 00:08:49,150 --> 00:08:53,650 Chuck Ramona signing a letter trying to 189 00:08:51,430 --> 00:08:58,390 force Corvin into a no-confidence vote 190 00:08:53,650 --> 00:08:59,770 and you have the SNP green played and 191 00:08:58,390 --> 00:09:02,080 Liberal Democrats trying to force 192 00:08:59,770 --> 00:09:03,870 Kaufman's hand on this as well now not 193 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:08,170 much has been made of this but for me 194 00:09:03,870 --> 00:09:10,510 this is another kind of backhanded 195 00:09:08,170 --> 00:09:12,490 backstabbing attempt by these two it's 196 00:09:10,510 --> 00:09:15,550 all right just go look at the Lebanon 197 00:09:12,490 --> 00:09:17,650 yeah to try and completely undermine 198 00:09:15,550 --> 00:09:19,390 Corbin and then there's a very sneaky 199 00:09:17,650 --> 00:09:22,240 thing they're doing because if if he 200 00:09:19,390 --> 00:09:23,680 makes one false footed move yeah with 201 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,420 this no confidence you know then it 202 00:09:23,680 --> 00:09:28,210 could potentially finish him because he 203 00:09:25,420 --> 00:09:30,220 has to pick his timing with this you 204 00:09:28,210 --> 00:09:32,800 only got one challenge you do you only 205 00:09:30,220 --> 00:09:35,050 got one chance are no confidence yeah if 206 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:39,460 you put a no confidence book and it 207 00:09:35,050 --> 00:09:42,700 succeeds in rallying the Tories around 208 00:09:39,460 --> 00:09:46,390 Theresa main then it's not just failed 209 00:09:42,700 --> 00:09:48,610 it's backfired yeah it actually alters 210 00:09:46,390 --> 00:09:49,360 the core course of events it in the 211 00:09:48,610 --> 00:09:51,760 wrong way 212 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:53,650 so the Labour whips the chief whips a 213 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:56,680 friend of mine Nick Brown he's a very 214 00:09:53,650 --> 00:09:58,540 savvy guy he's been in one Whip's office 215 00:09:56,680 --> 00:10:00,940 or another for decades 216 00:09:58,540 --> 00:10:04,780 he knows Parliament inside out I'm quite 217 00:10:00,940 --> 00:10:07,150 content to leave it to him to advise on 218 00:10:04,780 --> 00:10:10,240 when the time to strike with an or 219 00:10:07,150 --> 00:10:13,090 contents for it but you can imagine if 220 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:16,360 you held no confidence for this evening 221 00:10:13,090 --> 00:10:19,600 all the Tories would back treasom a the 222 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:21,700 DUP would back treasom a therefore it 223 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:24,190 would fall therefore what's the point of 224 00:10:21,700 --> 00:10:26,320 it and as you say correctly identify the 225 00:10:24,190 --> 00:10:28,270 point of it is to undermine carbon yeah 226 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:31,510 that's why chuckle muna and all the 227 00:10:28,270 --> 00:10:34,690 Blair I Trump are backing Elliot and 228 00:10:31,510 --> 00:10:37,000 that Caroline Lucas I know you're a 229 00:10:34,690 --> 00:10:40,030 green kind of guy 230 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,840 I think Colin Lucas performances utterly 231 00:10:40,030 --> 00:10:44,710 deplorable 232 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:48,520 she's the mouthpiece for the big banks 233 00:10:44,710 --> 00:10:53,140 big austerity EU and she's doing our 234 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:55,240 best to weaken injure undermine Jeremy 235 00:10:53,140 --> 00:10:55,920 Corbyn who whatever else you think of 236 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,679 him is 237 00:10:55,920 --> 00:11:00,480 the only alternative Prime Minister that 238 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,559 the left has yeah you took kind that you 239 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:06,149 took the words bear at my mouth 240 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:07,889 developers because my my my liking of 241 00:11:06,149 --> 00:11:10,230 the greens is slightly tarnished at the 242 00:11:07,889 --> 00:11:12,989 winners with the whole brexit situation 243 00:11:10,230 --> 00:11:14,779 my eye finds especially her narrative 244 00:11:12,989 --> 00:11:18,359 and I've interviewed him several times 245 00:11:14,779 --> 00:11:21,629 and having interviewed her she's the 246 00:11:18,359 --> 00:11:24,899 least authentic green politician I've 247 00:11:21,629 --> 00:11:26,220 met I have to say and my liking of her 248 00:11:24,899 --> 00:11:28,889 is kind of quite diminished though I 249 00:11:26,220 --> 00:11:31,109 think she's she's not doing the Green 250 00:11:28,889 --> 00:11:33,239 Party or herself any favors 251 00:11:31,109 --> 00:11:34,679 I don't think so something's not doing 252 00:11:33,239 --> 00:11:37,769 fish is not doing anyone any favors 253 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:40,259 really because out of all of all the 254 00:11:37,769 --> 00:11:43,109 various avenues this situation could go 255 00:11:40,259 --> 00:11:45,809 down this damned people's vote is not 256 00:11:43,109 --> 00:11:48,029 the correct one still whatever you think 257 00:11:45,809 --> 00:11:53,399 well look what would that solve Stephens 258 00:11:48,029 --> 00:11:58,980 either remain would win narrowly in 259 00:11:53,399 --> 00:12:01,199 which case tens maybe even more millions 260 00:11:58,980 --> 00:12:04,619 of people in this country would feel 261 00:12:01,199 --> 00:12:08,429 cheated and robbed some millions would 262 00:12:04,619 --> 00:12:11,369 feel and bitter and angry and who could 263 00:12:08,429 --> 00:12:14,429 be the beneficiary of that anger who can 264 00:12:11,369 --> 00:12:18,089 only be the right and even the far right 265 00:12:14,429 --> 00:12:20,790 or leave would win again 266 00:12:18,089 --> 00:12:23,610 narrowly in which case they'd blame 267 00:12:20,790 --> 00:12:25,470 Russia they'd see it was Putin and the 268 00:12:23,610 --> 00:12:28,489 demand would be on for yeah another 269 00:12:25,470 --> 00:12:31,769 wanted and an another way of derailing 270 00:12:28,489 --> 00:12:34,110 the whole brexit process so this 271 00:12:31,769 --> 00:12:37,199 people's vote which is such an insulting 272 00:12:34,110 --> 00:12:40,379 term because it implies the last 273 00:12:37,199 --> 00:12:44,249 referendum which was now people say what 274 00:12:40,379 --> 00:12:47,309 was that artificial intelligence so 275 00:12:44,249 --> 00:12:49,829 that's the worst Avenue to go down there 276 00:12:47,309 --> 00:12:54,929 but it's the Avenue that Lucas and Oh 277 00:12:49,829 --> 00:12:58,019 muna and Blair and Clegg and all the 278 00:12:54,929 --> 00:13:01,619 usual suspects are trying to take us 279 00:12:58,019 --> 00:13:03,449 down the more I look at it and I don't 280 00:13:01,619 --> 00:13:06,600 see how the logic of this can be 281 00:13:03,449 --> 00:13:08,279 resisted forever the only way to solve 282 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:10,439 this logjam is a 283 00:13:08,279 --> 00:13:15,060 election to change the parliamentary 284 00:13:10,439 --> 00:13:17,249 automatic to allow the people to see who 285 00:13:15,060 --> 00:13:19,079 they once not question their salary of 286 00:13:17,249 --> 00:13:21,449 what they want because you can't in a 287 00:13:19,079 --> 00:13:24,269 general election claim that every line 288 00:13:21,449 --> 00:13:26,759 in your manifesto has been specifically 289 00:13:24,269 --> 00:13:29,879 endorsed by the elector it's who they 290 00:13:26,759 --> 00:13:31,499 want to take the country into this 291 00:13:29,879 --> 00:13:33,870 yesterday and this is the narrative that 292 00:13:31,499 --> 00:13:38,309 has been this is the problem Labour's 293 00:13:33,870 --> 00:13:39,870 had and labour supporters have had its 294 00:13:38,309 --> 00:13:42,360 they haven't hammered this narrative 295 00:13:39,870 --> 00:13:43,680 home quite correctly because I'd I agree 296 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:46,529 with you I think general election is is 297 00:13:43,680 --> 00:13:48,240 the best option because it's the whole 298 00:13:46,529 --> 00:13:50,249 problem throughout this brexit process 299 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:52,410 has been that has been the Tories bloody 300 00:13:50,249 --> 00:13:56,749 doing it that's been the agenda because 301 00:13:52,410 --> 00:14:00,180 we we voted as a country to leave 302 00:13:56,749 --> 00:14:01,860 therefore the the issue is not and never 303 00:14:00,180 --> 00:14:04,139 has been whether we should be leaving or 304 00:14:01,860 --> 00:14:06,120 not that was decided and everyone keeps 305 00:14:04,139 --> 00:14:08,939 saying change your mind as you rightly 306 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:10,350 said on the show many moons ago what so 307 00:14:08,939 --> 00:14:11,699 we keep having a general election every 308 00:14:10,350 --> 00:14:13,500 five minutes because people change their 309 00:14:11,699 --> 00:14:15,000 mind about they vote for the Tories or 310 00:14:13,500 --> 00:14:16,709 labour it's not to me the issue has 311 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:19,230 always been who is negotiating this back 312 00:14:16,709 --> 00:14:20,850 set and I think the fact that when we're 313 00:14:19,230 --> 00:14:23,550 now at a stage am having a stage for 314 00:14:20,850 --> 00:14:25,139 ages where it's blatantly obvious that 315 00:14:23,550 --> 00:14:26,910 Teresa mailer conservative party are 316 00:14:25,139 --> 00:14:29,220 incapable of delivering any kind of 317 00:14:26,910 --> 00:14:31,410 brexit which is in the best interest of 318 00:14:29,220 --> 00:14:34,529 the people in this country and then the 319 00:14:31,410 --> 00:14:36,629 question as you say is okay so do we do 320 00:14:34,529 --> 00:14:39,029 we the public wants someone else to do 321 00:14:36,629 --> 00:14:41,160 with this almighty mess and clear it up 322 00:14:39,029 --> 00:14:42,540 not do we want to stop this mess all 323 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,910 together because this mess is happening 324 00:14:42,540 --> 00:14:46,559 regardless and I think as well wherever 325 00:14:44,910 --> 00:14:49,699 you lose on legal remain we had a 326 00:14:46,559 --> 00:14:53,160 referendum and it was done and I think 327 00:14:49,699 --> 00:14:54,870 history will be viewing us far better in 328 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:57,179 this period if we stuck with that 329 00:14:54,870 --> 00:15:00,870 whether that be because in twenty years 330 00:14:57,179 --> 00:15:03,059 time greats wave that the public will 331 00:15:00,870 --> 00:15:07,740 realize what a corny you referendum 332 00:15:03,059 --> 00:15:09,179 literally what I was a calm me if you I 333 00:15:07,740 --> 00:15:12,779 mean as we speak 334 00:15:09,179 --> 00:15:17,129 Frances burning it spread to Brussels it 335 00:15:12,779 --> 00:15:20,240 spread to the Netherlands macron is in a 336 00:15:17,129 --> 00:15:23,179 state of collapse yeah demanda or Mona 337 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:25,490 paused I known as as the great you could 338 00:15:23,179 --> 00:15:29,079 all I say is hand on his backside well I 339 00:15:25,490 --> 00:15:33,410 I never got that close to either but the 340 00:15:29,079 --> 00:15:35,509 reality is that they told us if only 341 00:15:33,410 --> 00:15:39,920 labor were led by someone like Mac 342 00:15:35,509 --> 00:15:42,800 Rodney man or woman like macron they'd 343 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:47,360 be doing you know so much better yeah 344 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:49,129 when in fact macron is incapable of 345 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,610 going out onto the streets of his own 346 00:15:49,129 --> 00:15:52,540 country 347 00:15:49,610 --> 00:15:55,369 yeah his country is in flames he's 348 00:15:52,540 --> 00:15:57,379 capitulating cancelling giving he's just 349 00:15:55,369 --> 00:16:00,050 given a hundred euros to everybody in 350 00:15:57,379 --> 00:16:05,449 France he's declared the state of social 351 00:16:00,050 --> 00:16:08,179 and economic emergencies and the in Kohi 352 00:16:05,449 --> 00:16:10,999 anger of the people on the streets of 353 00:16:08,179 --> 00:16:13,939 France not just Paris but all cities and 354 00:16:10,999 --> 00:16:17,480 even in the country Sun is not left or 355 00:16:13,939 --> 00:16:20,480 right no it's not aligned to any party 356 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:22,879 its anger at the elite at the 357 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:27,040 establishment well that's just like what 358 00:16:22,879 --> 00:16:30,499 brexit was it's the same forces that are 359 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:32,389 engaged now and this says you know Jean 360 00:16:30,499 --> 00:16:34,999 you're kind of wearing her she lives on 361 00:16:32,389 --> 00:16:40,490 at the moment in solidarity I will want 362 00:16:34,999 --> 00:16:43,249 I was Nikola Nikola nearly jumped with 363 00:16:40,490 --> 00:16:46,129 delight so that she can was a bit cagey 364 00:16:43,249 --> 00:16:50,449 about people's I was not really a hive 365 00:16:46,129 --> 00:16:52,490 is kind of guy but he did sportingly put 366 00:16:50,449 --> 00:16:55,339 it on because we wanted to show 367 00:16:52,490 --> 00:16:57,499 solidarity not that these people are 368 00:16:55,339 --> 00:16:59,240 supporters of ours necessarily or 369 00:16:57,499 --> 00:17:02,360 they've ever heard of us 370 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:04,549 of course they probably haven't not 371 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:07,069 because we would necessarily support all 372 00:17:04,549 --> 00:17:09,140 of their politics but to argue that 373 00:17:07,069 --> 00:17:13,189 these people are you know somehow 374 00:17:09,140 --> 00:17:15,230 right-wing then is an absurdity and we 375 00:17:13,189 --> 00:17:19,329 got the stage where the liberal 376 00:17:15,230 --> 00:17:21,980 establishment in Britain was best 377 00:17:19,329 --> 00:17:23,510 ignoring what was going on in France I 378 00:17:21,980 --> 00:17:25,250 never saw much about on British 379 00:17:23,510 --> 00:17:28,309 television but I saw a lot of it on 380 00:17:25,250 --> 00:17:30,770 foreign television or they were actually 381 00:17:28,309 --> 00:17:32,160 wishing macron to defeat these people 382 00:17:30,770 --> 00:17:34,530 well they didn't defeat 383 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:37,230 yeah they've defeated him yeah it's a 384 00:17:34,530 --> 00:17:39,510 new French Revolution of sorts and the 385 00:17:37,230 --> 00:17:42,240 French know how to do revenue they do 386 00:17:39,510 --> 00:17:46,170 indeed yeah and now I think you're right 387 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:48,840 and as I say III I've been convinced 388 00:17:46,170 --> 00:17:50,550 throughout the whole process that in 20 389 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:52,260 years time we will look back and breathe 390 00:17:50,550 --> 00:17:55,290 a sigh of relief that we got out of the 391 00:17:52,260 --> 00:17:59,250 EU project while we can because it is 392 00:17:55,290 --> 00:18:01,500 the France kind of sums up nicely it's 393 00:17:59,250 --> 00:18:03,600 literally collapsing around it in the 394 00:18:01,500 --> 00:18:06,420 heat of its own [ __ ] essentialism is 395 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:08,850 it's falling apart and I agree with you 396 00:18:06,420 --> 00:18:12,240 there's a purchase in France if we segue 397 00:18:08,850 --> 00:18:15,390 onto this the protest in France our sort 398 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:17,070 of elite backlash if you like well it's 399 00:18:15,390 --> 00:18:19,080 also interesting for me about about 400 00:18:17,070 --> 00:18:21,390 these and a discussed discusses over 401 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,980 down a podcast is that they also protect 402 00:18:21,390 --> 00:18:25,260 a great challenge for Western 403 00:18:22,980 --> 00:18:26,670 governments because I don't believe a 404 00:18:25,260 --> 00:18:28,740 word that comes out of Mac Ron's mouth 405 00:18:26,670 --> 00:18:31,560 don't get me wrong but essentially the 406 00:18:28,740 --> 00:18:35,520 the the spark that ignited this was the 407 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:36,720 diesel tax increase now it presents 408 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:39,060 challenge for Western governments 409 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:40,560 because ultimately whether you believe - 410 00:18:39,060 --> 00:18:42,630 assuming of those reasons or not on the 411 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:45,480 face of it he was doing it for Paris 412 00:18:42,630 --> 00:18:47,670 really - changing reasons and the people 413 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:49,740 weren't having any of it and this is 414 00:18:47,670 --> 00:18:51,360 this is the whole problem that I think 415 00:18:49,740 --> 00:18:52,770 in many Western governments and both 416 00:18:51,360 --> 00:18:56,580 governments worldwide are going to face 417 00:18:52,770 --> 00:18:59,850 that in their attempts to put the blame 418 00:18:56,580 --> 00:19:02,580 and the responsibility for the climate 419 00:18:59,850 --> 00:19:04,650 catastrophe which is in 70% of global 420 00:19:02,580 --> 00:19:07,530 greenhouse gas emissions in the past 30 421 00:19:04,650 --> 00:19:10,260 years down to 100 corporations not the 422 00:19:07,530 --> 00:19:12,120 people in trying to shut this on to the 423 00:19:10,260 --> 00:19:13,530 people I think people are wising up and 424 00:19:12,120 --> 00:19:15,900 there's going to be a massive backlash 425 00:19:13,530 --> 00:19:18,720 against the fact that we've got to 426 00:19:15,900 --> 00:19:20,460 shoulder the responsibility for just 427 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:22,350 like the financial collapse just like 428 00:19:20,460 --> 00:19:24,420 the fudge and this is the point because 429 00:19:22,350 --> 00:19:26,490 they keep trying to do this to us and I 430 00:19:24,420 --> 00:19:28,680 now think in the age I don't think 431 00:19:26,490 --> 00:19:29,730 they've kept up with firstly I don't 432 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,230 think they're kept up in social media 433 00:19:29,730 --> 00:19:33,540 because what what was fascinating about 434 00:19:31,230 --> 00:19:35,270 the French protests as well is that they 435 00:19:33,540 --> 00:19:37,080 were fooled by Facebook if you like 436 00:19:35,270 --> 00:19:38,460 absolutely brilliant because of course 437 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,140 you know as well as I do Facebook 438 00:19:38,460 --> 00:19:44,070 changed its algorithms our Schneier 439 00:19:40,140 --> 00:19:45,780 to take news of people's timelines and 440 00:19:44,070 --> 00:19:47,160 place it with what all their friends 441 00:19:45,780 --> 00:19:49,890 were saying but consequently what 442 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:51,960 Facebook done was enabled the Yellow 443 00:19:49,890 --> 00:19:54,090 Jackets protests in France to just 444 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:56,730 explode because it was people themselves 445 00:19:54,090 --> 00:19:58,440 posting about it not News Corporation so 446 00:19:56,730 --> 00:19:59,760 it's all over if you ones time though 447 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,770 what a good point and it worked it 448 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:05,220 worked against you know even the way 449 00:20:01,770 --> 00:20:06,780 it's supposed to and so I think that as 450 00:20:05,220 --> 00:20:08,040 you say because we're playing but what 451 00:20:06,780 --> 00:20:10,230 we had to shoulder the responsibility 452 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,550 for the financial crisis and now we're 453 00:20:10,230 --> 00:20:13,740 having to shoulder the responsibility 454 00:20:11,550 --> 00:20:15,890 for the crime climate crisis I think I 455 00:20:13,740 --> 00:20:18,270 think that's the powers that be have 456 00:20:15,890 --> 00:20:20,130 still haven't caught up with the fact of 457 00:20:18,270 --> 00:20:21,630 firstly social media and the way it 458 00:20:20,130 --> 00:20:24,750 works and the way people have access to 459 00:20:21,630 --> 00:20:28,470 information now and know the anger that 460 00:20:24,750 --> 00:20:30,150 exists consciously or not and I think a 461 00:20:28,470 --> 00:20:31,650 lot of anger is subconscious within 462 00:20:30,150 --> 00:20:34,980 people yeah I'm very angry in it and 463 00:20:31,650 --> 00:20:36,450 there are rage Oh Rajee as the French 464 00:20:34,980 --> 00:20:39,260 Revolution 465 00:20:36,450 --> 00:20:42,780 used to describe it the angry ones and 466 00:20:39,260 --> 00:20:47,190 the anger if you boiled it down is to 467 00:20:42,780 --> 00:20:49,770 this we didn't cause this crisis but 468 00:20:47,190 --> 00:20:52,620 you're making us pay for it yet the 469 00:20:49,770 --> 00:20:54,900 people who did caused the crisis are the 470 00:20:52,620 --> 00:20:58,140 last to pay for it yeah they're getting 471 00:20:54,900 --> 00:21:01,680 richer we are getting poorer yeah you 472 00:20:58,140 --> 00:21:05,280 are piling straws on our back and the 473 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:09,000 camel's back can only take so much straw 474 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:12,000 yeah and the French are not a people who 475 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:15,720 take things lying down and they they 476 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:20,370 were up on their feet in everywhere from 477 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:24,870 Marseilles to Toulouse to not to little 478 00:21:20,370 --> 00:21:27,570 Paris and this despite the best part of 479 00:21:24,870 --> 00:21:31,110 a hundred thousand armed security 480 00:21:27,570 --> 00:21:33,240 personnel including tanks tanks by the 481 00:21:31,110 --> 00:21:35,790 way which had no French flag on them but 482 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:38,370 only the European Union flag 483 00:21:35,790 --> 00:21:40,860 tanks on the streets yeah that's a 484 00:21:38,370 --> 00:21:44,610 European army all right oh no that's a 485 00:21:40,860 --> 00:21:48,260 conspiracy theory the the the whole 486 00:21:44,610 --> 00:21:50,700 country rose up and the elite are 487 00:21:48,260 --> 00:21:52,890 scrambling to get back on their feet 488 00:21:50,700 --> 00:21:54,060 they don't quite know how to handle it 489 00:21:52,890 --> 00:21:57,360 now whether 490 00:21:54,060 --> 00:21:59,070 act 5 will be canceled this weekend 491 00:21:57,360 --> 00:22:02,280 I don't know but I very much doubt it 492 00:21:59,070 --> 00:22:05,430 because when you've got your enemy on 493 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:08,520 the run it's probably best not to stop 494 00:22:05,430 --> 00:22:10,620 when he's throwing 100 euro notes at you 495 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:14,400 because there's a lot more in his pocket 496 00:22:10,620 --> 00:22:17,070 yeah that he hasn't yet thrown I think 497 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:19,740 the lack of a program the lack of an 498 00:22:17,070 --> 00:22:22,560 alternative leader has happened in the 499 00:22:19,740 --> 00:22:25,160 Arab Spring for example is a weakness 500 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:28,470 it's a strength at the moment for the 501 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:30,540 Yellowjackets because everyone can join 502 00:22:28,470 --> 00:22:35,760 in you don't have to support mr. a or 503 00:22:30,540 --> 00:22:38,040 mrs. B or this or that ISM but if you 504 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:40,350 don't have your own program ultimately 505 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,940 you end up being part of someone else's 506 00:22:40,350 --> 00:22:43,850 yeah and then that is the Dazz you say I 507 00:22:41,940 --> 00:22:45,930 think that is the challenge so it's also 508 00:22:43,850 --> 00:22:49,350 two more points what's interesting about 509 00:22:45,930 --> 00:22:52,410 is it's kind of spread to Holland and 510 00:22:49,350 --> 00:22:54,360 Belgium has a knock-on and Therese maze 511 00:22:52,410 --> 00:22:57,090 interestingly sort of jettisoned off to 512 00:22:54,360 --> 00:22:58,800 those countries I'm sure that the Yellow 513 00:22:57,090 --> 00:23:00,510 Jackets will come up in conversation 514 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,280 because I'm sure she's probably fearful 515 00:23:00,510 --> 00:23:03,630 of the same thing happening over here 516 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:06,120 there's a big run on the seal of 517 00:23:03,630 --> 00:23:07,950 Yellowjackets damn well yeah us quick 518 00:23:06,120 --> 00:23:09,750 yes check out my timeline on Twitter 519 00:23:07,950 --> 00:23:12,150 there's a link to a special offer on one 520 00:23:09,750 --> 00:23:13,830 there really is but I think she's 521 00:23:12,150 --> 00:23:15,120 probably slightly fearful of the same 522 00:23:13,830 --> 00:23:18,270 thing over here I'm looking for a 523 00:23:15,120 --> 00:23:21,270 designer yeah yeah I know I kind of yeah 524 00:23:18,270 --> 00:23:23,220 classier I'm not very flattering then oh 525 00:23:21,270 --> 00:23:26,250 I'm interviewing Vivienne Westwood Suns 526 00:23:23,220 --> 00:23:28,380 more oh there's they're exactly the 527 00:23:26,250 --> 00:23:31,710 royal family I love words yeah that's 528 00:23:28,380 --> 00:23:34,680 right fun to come up with a pool as 529 00:23:31,710 --> 00:23:36,360 usual they are and we may need them and 530 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,400 because I'm shorter it's cross Teresa's 531 00:23:36,360 --> 00:23:40,110 mom Theresa Mays mine I could that 532 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:42,000 happen over here because we have 533 00:23:40,110 --> 00:23:44,040 extinction rebellion currently sort of 534 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:47,760 making ground if you like we have even 535 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:49,170 the sort of the flaccid People's 536 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,000 Assembly are having a demonstration 537 00:23:49,170 --> 00:23:53,910 outside Parliament on Tuesday evening 538 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:57,960 and so there's probably concerned her my 539 00:23:53,910 --> 00:24:01,740 concern is I'm not sure we this country 540 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:04,950 Woods has the capabilities to have an 541 00:24:01,740 --> 00:24:07,500 movement like that purely because and 542 00:24:04,950 --> 00:24:09,400 I've used this phrase a lot is I coined 543 00:24:07,500 --> 00:24:12,309 it years ago Max Keiser actually 544 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:16,900 and this country has a feudal hangover 545 00:24:12,309 --> 00:24:18,820 in so much that as a populace I think it 546 00:24:16,900 --> 00:24:21,640 seemed almost in our DNA that we're 547 00:24:18,820 --> 00:24:23,320 quite subservient and quite all no okay 548 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,059 all right then we'll shut up and take 549 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:27,670 our lot in life we haven't got the 550 00:24:25,059 --> 00:24:30,850 French have a proud history of this and 551 00:24:27,670 --> 00:24:32,950 while we saw the Iraq war march 552 00:24:30,850 --> 00:24:34,690 obviously where millions people came out 553 00:24:32,950 --> 00:24:37,210 and a Labour government essentially 554 00:24:34,690 --> 00:24:40,000 ignored them I'm not convinced we could 555 00:24:37,210 --> 00:24:42,880 Tsar pepper cup was dropped voluntary no 556 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:45,100 I mean now you've sort of comparable for 557 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,840 me over the past few decades the 558 00:24:45,100 --> 00:24:49,510 business of the puddle tax movement 559 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:51,640 reaiiy and that otherwise which already 560 00:24:49,510 --> 00:24:53,740 good is a coal full tax movement was 561 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:56,260 more proletarian than character more 562 00:24:53,740 --> 00:24:59,380 working-class well look I know that 563 00:24:56,260 --> 00:25:02,679 that's widely held view and it may be 564 00:24:59,380 --> 00:25:06,190 right but I know it's ancient history 565 00:25:02,679 --> 00:25:09,010 but may I remind you that the people of 566 00:25:06,190 --> 00:25:12,550 this country England rose up and 567 00:25:09,010 --> 00:25:16,000 executed their King a hundred and fifty 568 00:25:12,550 --> 00:25:18,580 years before the French did the English 569 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:21,540 had a revolution not far from here the 570 00:25:18,580 --> 00:25:25,120 Levellers took the land in common 571 00:25:21,540 --> 00:25:29,280 Cromwell was a revolutionary leader the 572 00:25:25,120 --> 00:25:31,780 monarchy was destroyed only briefly and 573 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:35,020 they actually dug Cromwell up from the 574 00:25:31,780 --> 00:25:38,440 grave and cut his head off him and the 575 00:25:35,020 --> 00:25:42,880 monarchy was restored in a you know a 576 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:47,230 more weak fashion but I'm not so sure 577 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:50,470 and that the people of England have 578 00:25:47,230 --> 00:25:52,179 spoken yet but they might they might if 579 00:25:50,470 --> 00:25:54,540 you switch off I'm a celebrity you might 580 00:25:52,179 --> 00:25:54,540 yes 581 00:25:55,220 --> 00:26:00,630 [Music] 582 00:25:57,110 --> 00:26:01,110 this week the spies came in from the 583 00:26:00,630 --> 00:26:04,470 cold 584 00:26:01,110 --> 00:26:08,669 they had been in the cold of a derelict 585 00:26:04,470 --> 00:26:11,909 mill in octa mater at your expense 586 00:26:08,669 --> 00:26:15,630 now actor marty is a place that not many 587 00:26:11,909 --> 00:26:18,049 people have visited it's if known for 588 00:26:15,630 --> 00:26:22,919 anything as part of a Scottish 589 00:26:18,049 --> 00:26:27,210 tongue-twisting Limerick involving after 590 00:26:22,919 --> 00:26:29,130 Marty Eko feckin and Milne guy the 591 00:26:27,210 --> 00:26:30,809 Celtic supporters club bus used to stop 592 00:26:29,130 --> 00:26:33,450 there for fish and chips on Saturday 593 00:26:30,809 --> 00:26:35,970 night so I happen to know after Marty 594 00:26:33,450 --> 00:26:37,980 quite well but you've probably never 595 00:26:35,970 --> 00:26:41,850 been there and you certainly want to be 596 00:26:37,980 --> 00:26:45,630 to the derelict mill that is the 597 00:26:41,850 --> 00:26:48,059 recipient of 2 million pounds of public 598 00:26:45,630 --> 00:26:51,899 money from the Foreign Office to a 599 00:26:48,059 --> 00:26:57,140 charity Stephen there called the 600 00:26:51,899 --> 00:27:00,809 Institute for statecraft which has a 601 00:26:57,140 --> 00:27:04,890 illegitimate child called the integrity 602 00:27:00,809 --> 00:27:07,409 initiative no a charity is not allowed 603 00:27:04,890 --> 00:27:11,220 to be political so first of all it's in 604 00:27:07,409 --> 00:27:14,070 total breach of charity law and ought to 605 00:27:11,220 --> 00:27:16,500 be forced to give back all the tax 606 00:27:14,070 --> 00:27:20,669 deductions it got from being a charity 607 00:27:16,500 --> 00:27:22,679 as well as an inquiry into why it was 608 00:27:20,669 --> 00:27:26,340 given charitable status in the first 609 00:27:22,679 --> 00:27:29,809 place because it's objects are to 610 00:27:26,340 --> 00:27:34,500 counter what it calls disinformation 611 00:27:29,809 --> 00:27:35,399 misinformation from Russia so whatever 612 00:27:34,500 --> 00:27:38,700 your view on that 613 00:27:35,399 --> 00:27:39,750 it's a highly political purpose and 614 00:27:38,700 --> 00:27:42,539 you're not allowed to have a political 615 00:27:39,750 --> 00:27:44,250 purpose and be a charity in Britain if 616 00:27:42,539 --> 00:27:47,330 you don't believe me I'll show you my 617 00:27:44,250 --> 00:27:50,490 scars so the Charity Commission is 618 00:27:47,330 --> 00:27:53,610 completely remiss for allowing this 619 00:27:50,490 --> 00:27:58,679 outfit the who are they they are not one 620 00:27:53,610 --> 00:28:01,649 but two X if you've read John McCurry 621 00:27:58,679 --> 00:28:06,029 you know that George Smiley was never X 622 00:28:01,649 --> 00:28:09,200 firm because you don't retire from the 623 00:28:06,029 --> 00:28:12,010 intelligence services you were merely go 624 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:15,669 gardening leaf but these are two 625 00:28:12,010 --> 00:28:19,039 ex-military intelligence army officers 626 00:28:15,669 --> 00:28:22,580 who are in this delict mill in Acton 627 00:28:19,039 --> 00:28:24,950 Marty getting two million quid per year 628 00:28:22,580 --> 00:28:27,740 with a total budget by the way of a 629 00:28:24,950 --> 00:28:32,269 hundred million for them and other 630 00:28:27,740 --> 00:28:35,539 outfits like them to counter Russia so 631 00:28:32,269 --> 00:28:37,880 far so controversial but the Scottish 632 00:28:35,539 --> 00:28:40,340 Daily Record for which I used to write a 633 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:45,200 column and it's Sunday edition the 634 00:28:40,340 --> 00:28:47,630 Sunday Mail suddenly broke the cover-up 635 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:50,870 of all this by running a front-page 636 00:28:47,630 --> 00:28:54,169 splash why because not only has this 637 00:28:50,870 --> 00:28:57,649 outfit been attacking Russia it's been 638 00:28:54,169 --> 00:29:00,470 attacking Jeremy Corbyn labour and the 639 00:28:57,649 --> 00:29:03,289 official opposition Her Majesty's 640 00:29:00,470 --> 00:29:06,289 opposition Her Majesty's loyal 641 00:29:03,289 --> 00:29:09,110 opposition the right honourable privy 642 00:29:06,289 --> 00:29:12,500 councillor Jeremy Corbyn has been being 643 00:29:09,110 --> 00:29:14,269 attacked on Twitter and in the media as 644 00:29:12,500 --> 00:29:19,220 part of a dirty tricks 645 00:29:14,269 --> 00:29:21,710 psyops run by this initiative in a mill 646 00:29:19,220 --> 00:29:24,529 in after Martin 647 00:29:21,710 --> 00:29:27,830 so think about that the British 648 00:29:24,529 --> 00:29:31,190 government is paying people to attack 649 00:29:27,830 --> 00:29:33,679 the British opposition now this has 650 00:29:31,190 --> 00:29:37,580 never happened before in Britain at 651 00:29:33,679 --> 00:29:40,190 least not openly they live in a car the 652 00:29:37,580 --> 00:29:42,590 state would have given someone like you 653 00:29:40,190 --> 00:29:45,350 or me the money and I said why don't you 654 00:29:42,590 --> 00:29:48,679 go away and do that but this is in the 655 00:29:45,350 --> 00:29:51,139 books it's actually a money trail from 656 00:29:48,679 --> 00:29:53,000 the Foreign Office to them right to 657 00:29:51,139 --> 00:29:56,330 their twitter account to their attacks 658 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:58,039 on jeremy corbyn so the Foreign Office 659 00:29:56,330 --> 00:29:58,700 in big trouble Charity Commission is in 660 00:29:58,039 --> 00:30:01,039 big trouble 661 00:29:58,700 --> 00:30:04,279 the government if we ever get out from 662 00:30:01,039 --> 00:30:06,710 under the up a stream of brexit is going 663 00:30:04,279 --> 00:30:09,110 to be in trouble if Corbin comes to 664 00:30:06,710 --> 00:30:11,539 power they are already trouble that's 665 00:30:09,110 --> 00:30:13,399 why they're getting desperate you know 666 00:30:11,539 --> 00:30:15,799 I'm making this killing Kelly Feld it's 667 00:30:13,399 --> 00:30:18,049 almost oh yeah it's getting on now for 668 00:30:15,799 --> 00:30:20,419 fully fund excellent looks like 669 00:30:18,049 --> 00:30:22,100 touchwood that we will be making it and 670 00:30:20,419 --> 00:30:24,559 one of its demands 671 00:30:22,100 --> 00:30:27,440 is that Corbin should reopen the David 672 00:30:24,559 --> 00:30:29,600 Kelly enquiry and I'm pretty sure he'll 673 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:33,309 agree to that demand so they're all 674 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:37,190 panicking them so they're losing their 675 00:30:33,309 --> 00:30:39,559 customary smoothness suaveness and 676 00:30:37,190 --> 00:30:41,510 making mistakes and this is a very big 677 00:30:39,559 --> 00:30:47,809 mistake so the foreign officers now 678 00:30:41,510 --> 00:30:51,250 announced an inquiry into itself how did 679 00:30:47,809 --> 00:30:54,440 we end up giving money to two spies in 680 00:30:51,250 --> 00:30:57,200 after-market to attack the leader of Her 681 00:30:54,440 --> 00:31:00,679 Majesty's opposition like they didn't 682 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:02,720 already know that I've got two 683 00:31:00,679 --> 00:31:04,610 additional points to make on it one is I 684 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:08,080 would have thought these people had 685 00:31:04,610 --> 00:31:11,360 evolved beyond flat-footed army booted 686 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:13,490 british army intelligence anybody I've 687 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:16,039 ever known in the Army thinks that army 688 00:31:13,490 --> 00:31:18,409 intelligence is an oxymoron you'd have 689 00:31:16,039 --> 00:31:21,880 thought that their spies would have been 690 00:31:18,409 --> 00:31:25,460 of a different class rather than these 691 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:27,470 flat-footed soldiers but no appears 692 00:31:25,460 --> 00:31:30,230 almost everyone involved in the 693 00:31:27,470 --> 00:31:34,010 integrity initiative is either a serving 694 00:31:30,230 --> 00:31:38,179 ta officer or a former former British 695 00:31:34,010 --> 00:31:42,350 Army intelligence officer so as my my 696 00:31:38,179 --> 00:31:49,760 first point and my second point is why 697 00:31:42,350 --> 00:31:53,690 did see the commander of mi6 agree to 698 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:56,240 millions of pounds of spook money going 699 00:31:53,690 --> 00:32:00,230 to a couple of guys in octal market in a 700 00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:04,190 derelict mill and now bringing the trade 701 00:32:00,230 --> 00:32:07,520 into disrepute there is only one answer 702 00:32:04,190 --> 00:32:12,350 tiller there must be so much money 703 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:14,900 washing around in the spook pool that 704 00:32:12,350 --> 00:32:17,990 two million quid is neither here nor 705 00:32:14,900 --> 00:32:20,960 there and this for me is they brought a 706 00:32:17,990 --> 00:32:24,409 point because as I always view these 707 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:26,090 things it's the case for me of not what 708 00:32:24,409 --> 00:32:28,700 they're telling us what they're not 709 00:32:26,090 --> 00:32:30,620 telling us and for me this is kind of 710 00:32:28,700 --> 00:32:33,389 now we're getting to the icing on the 711 00:32:30,620 --> 00:32:36,209 cake if you like the fact firstly 712 00:32:33,389 --> 00:32:37,679 it's um because this story is part of a 713 00:32:36,209 --> 00:32:39,329 wider story for me and I wrote about 714 00:32:37,679 --> 00:32:42,419 this in 2016 that the Foreign Office 715 00:32:39,329 --> 00:32:44,369 quietly released this large dislodged 716 00:32:42,419 --> 00:32:47,820 strategy paper and how to counter 717 00:32:44,369 --> 00:32:49,739 Russian propaganda this this huge 718 00:32:47,820 --> 00:32:52,289 document no one else really report on it 719 00:32:49,739 --> 00:32:54,239 but I saw it went through it all and it 720 00:32:52,289 --> 00:32:57,599 was all about how to get some Western 721 00:32:54,239 --> 00:33:00,450 propaganda out there and how to counter 722 00:32:57,599 --> 00:33:02,399 it so then it's kind of it's been 723 00:33:00,450 --> 00:33:07,190 building this story from that point if 724 00:33:02,399 --> 00:33:09,659 you like but I'm more concerned with 725 00:33:07,190 --> 00:33:13,109 exactly who else is involved in this 726 00:33:09,659 --> 00:33:16,049 because you and I have off-camera spoken 727 00:33:13,109 --> 00:33:17,219 about certain concerns we have I don't 728 00:33:16,049 --> 00:33:19,349 think it's appropriate to say them on 729 00:33:17,219 --> 00:33:22,349 camera necessarily but of certain 730 00:33:19,349 --> 00:33:24,389 journalists who we do wonder about and 731 00:33:22,349 --> 00:33:28,349 I'm just wondering how far this net goes 732 00:33:24,389 --> 00:33:32,519 and how far outside of Corbin does this 733 00:33:28,349 --> 00:33:34,950 really go because I mean it's a natural 734 00:33:32,519 --> 00:33:36,539 conclusion to assume in my opinion 735 00:33:34,950 --> 00:33:38,070 especially with certain people at the 736 00:33:36,539 --> 00:33:40,049 canary that there are files on us 737 00:33:38,070 --> 00:33:42,570 somewhere I mean the file on you must be 738 00:33:40,049 --> 00:33:44,759 absolutely ridiculously huge and I would 739 00:33:42,570 --> 00:33:48,859 imagine there's notes on me probably 740 00:33:44,759 --> 00:33:50,909 notes on my boss carrier Mendoza and I 741 00:33:48,859 --> 00:33:52,529 don't think we've seen the last of this 742 00:33:50,909 --> 00:33:54,389 yet and the gun with all things I don't 743 00:33:52,529 --> 00:33:56,129 think we'll ever get to the actual truth 744 00:33:54,389 --> 00:33:59,369 of exactly what has been going on here 745 00:33:56,129 --> 00:34:01,079 because I know I always think this and I 746 00:33:59,369 --> 00:34:02,759 might be wrong maybe I'm wrong maybe and 747 00:34:01,079 --> 00:34:06,450 she's skeptical but I always think well 748 00:34:02,759 --> 00:34:08,190 if they're allowing us to know this what 749 00:34:06,450 --> 00:34:09,899 are they not telling us because if they 750 00:34:08,190 --> 00:34:11,819 didn't want this in the public domain it 751 00:34:09,899 --> 00:34:13,259 wouldn't be in the public domain up to a 752 00:34:11,819 --> 00:34:17,099 point it was interesting that it was a 753 00:34:13,259 --> 00:34:22,379 Scottish paper that broke the embargo on 754 00:34:17,099 --> 00:34:25,440 all this but think about it the entire 755 00:34:22,379 --> 00:34:29,779 media ignored the events in Paris for 756 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:33,690 four weeks Paris was in on fire ignored 757 00:34:29,779 --> 00:34:38,190 the entire media ignored it and then 758 00:34:33,690 --> 00:34:41,460 attacked the Russians for filming events 759 00:34:38,190 --> 00:34:44,369 in a western capital that they were 760 00:34:41,460 --> 00:34:45,690 deliberately not filming in the hope 761 00:34:44,369 --> 00:34:49,569 that it would go away 762 00:34:45,690 --> 00:34:51,940 yet so much did it not go away that the 763 00:34:49,569 --> 00:34:54,639 president of France himself has declared 764 00:34:51,940 --> 00:34:57,789 a social and economic emergency in the 765 00:34:54,639 --> 00:35:02,380 country and started throwing euros at 766 00:34:57,789 --> 00:35:05,200 the crowd so that means the entire 767 00:35:02,380 --> 00:35:08,980 British media was in complete 768 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:12,250 dereliction of its professional duty to 769 00:35:08,980 --> 00:35:15,400 report what was going on and was 770 00:35:12,250 --> 00:35:18,549 attacking other journalists sir RT for 771 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:21,789 reporting yet so my conclusions a bit 772 00:35:18,549 --> 00:35:24,460 like yours there must be much more than 773 00:35:21,789 --> 00:35:26,529 two million pounds or they wouldn't have 774 00:35:24,460 --> 00:35:29,799 allowed two million to go to a couple of 775 00:35:26,529 --> 00:35:33,069 jokers in a derelict mill an actor Mukti 776 00:35:29,799 --> 00:35:36,369 there must be far more initiatives than 777 00:35:33,069 --> 00:35:38,950 one integrity initiative there must be 778 00:35:36,369 --> 00:35:41,650 far more heads on the take 779 00:35:38,950 --> 00:35:43,390 there must be far more journalists than 780 00:35:41,650 --> 00:35:45,819 are currently on the list though the 781 00:35:43,390 --> 00:35:48,670 list is damning enough their foreign 782 00:35:45,819 --> 00:35:51,819 editor at the BBC foreign editor at Sky 783 00:35:48,670 --> 00:35:55,839 News David are on a [ __ ] and Dominic 784 00:35:51,819 --> 00:35:58,569 Kennedy at the Times foreign editor are 785 00:35:55,839 --> 00:36:01,029 one of the top guys at the Glasgow 786 00:35:58,569 --> 00:36:03,519 Herald people at the Telegraph and 787 00:36:01,029 --> 00:36:07,799 people that's bad enough but it must be 788 00:36:03,519 --> 00:36:11,650 much much longer unless that old adage 789 00:36:07,799 --> 00:36:14,859 thank God you cannot bribe or twist the 790 00:36:11,650 --> 00:36:17,319 average British journalist but when you 791 00:36:14,859 --> 00:36:20,619 see what unbraid 792 00:36:17,319 --> 00:36:24,130 he'll do you realise there's no reason 793 00:36:20,619 --> 00:36:27,519 to indeed and that is it for this week's 794 00:36:24,130 --> 00:36:29,349 toppled Galloway show I'm not your 795 00:36:27,519 --> 00:36:31,960 podcast going by the way every two guys 796 00:36:29,349 --> 00:36:33,430 who I've had a nearly podcast how do 797 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,680 people go to it yeah just if you just 798 00:36:33,430 --> 00:36:39,849 search on Twitter topple on cage or you 799 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:41,170 go to WWE Konerko Falls / podcast and it 800 00:36:39,849 --> 00:36:42,730 comes up there yeah it's really good I'm 801 00:36:41,170 --> 00:36:46,420 getting so I've had some lovely guests 802 00:36:42,730 --> 00:36:48,880 on I had on the fabulous us comedian Lee 803 00:36:46,420 --> 00:36:51,009 camp who has these wonderful years I've 804 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,420 been on his show and happy he's really 805 00:36:51,009 --> 00:36:54,430 good yeah I want to get Lee if you're 806 00:36:52,420 --> 00:36:57,009 watching I keep saying to your agent can 807 00:36:54,430 --> 00:36:58,200 I come on redacted I've been on writing 808 00:36:57,009 --> 00:37:00,630 I've been on it 809 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,770 let's do a course to coast yes Father in 810 00:37:00,630 --> 00:37:06,599 Britain from the east coast to the west 811 00:37:01,770 --> 00:37:08,550 coast Oh Stuart with Lee County Alisa is 812 00:37:06,599 --> 00:37:10,859 brilliant so I've had him on I've had 813 00:37:08,550 --> 00:37:13,829 some really good music as some I'm I'm 814 00:37:10,859 --> 00:37:15,390 waiting for Artie's action Ratan Zee to 815 00:37:13,829 --> 00:37:16,859 come back to me hopefully he'll be my 816 00:37:15,390 --> 00:37:19,440 guests this week that'll be good 817 00:37:16,859 --> 00:37:22,170 well he's our guest this week also on 818 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:26,070 our teas but every day and the proximate 819 00:37:22,170 --> 00:37:29,460 causes hmm according to codswallop and 820 00:37:26,070 --> 00:37:34,010 jukebox yes I am him to absence Ratan C 821 00:37:29,460 --> 00:37:40,290 is a focus of the moola inquiry 822 00:37:34,010 --> 00:37:43,440 conjuring fears of action as Chelsea 823 00:37:40,290 --> 00:37:46,890 Manning and Julian Assange heading for 824 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:51,390 the American dungeons what's he done he 825 00:37:46,890 --> 00:37:54,050 interviewed Julian Assange and it was so 826 00:37:51,390 --> 00:37:57,030 secret he put on television 827 00:37:54,050 --> 00:37:59,070 exactly but I'm never your court your 828 00:37:57,030 --> 00:38:00,329 honor just checking that your podcasts 829 00:37:59,070 --> 00:38:02,339 going it's lovely 830 00:38:00,329 --> 00:38:06,210 you're gonna appear with me onstage in 831 00:38:02,339 --> 00:38:08,760 leaf yes we just sister of of January I 832 00:38:06,210 --> 00:38:11,579 haven't been on stage since my and rad 833 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:14,490 days darling what are you know you'll be 834 00:38:11,579 --> 00:38:18,510 marvelous a topple Galloway on stage I 835 00:38:14,490 --> 00:38:21,869 mean in Neath Neath Port Talbot on the 836 00:38:18,510 --> 00:38:23,520 27th of January don't forget follow us 837 00:38:21,869 --> 00:38:25,650 on Twitter if you wish to comment on my 838 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:27,960 rather interesting track suit today feel 839 00:38:25,650 --> 00:38:30,030 free to do so it's at mr. topple or at a 840 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,200 George Galloway I thought I had one or 841 00:38:30,030 --> 00:38:33,150 more where he was starting to wear a 842 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:35,280 soft heart and look smart and so I'm 843 00:38:33,150 --> 00:38:38,130 back I've still got some what to do it 844 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:40,530 reflects my mood I'm angry this week you 845 00:38:38,130 --> 00:38:43,589 can very angry moods and therefore so so 846 00:38:40,530 --> 00:38:47,849 we gave it straight and the track suits 847 00:38:43,589 --> 00:38:50,280 come out this is me a street if you can 848 00:38:47,849 --> 00:38:53,040 provide me with that designer 849 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:55,880 yellow vest I promise to wear on stage 850 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,880 indeed 851 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:03,100 [Music] 852 00:39:00,110 --> 00:39:03,100 and 853 00:39:04,109 --> 00:39:06,380 and 854 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