1 00:00:03,500 --> 00:00:09,510 I'm George Galloway I'm save topple and 2 00:00:06,690 --> 00:00:12,420 together we're topple Galloway welcome 3 00:00:09,510 --> 00:00:15,210 to the Christmas edition our 25th 4 00:00:12,420 --> 00:00:17,070 edition of topple gala which is quite 5 00:00:15,210 --> 00:00:18,660 something sharp lies when you're 6 00:00:17,070 --> 00:00:21,750 enjoying yourself let's hope the 7 00:00:18,660 --> 00:00:23,750 audience is enjoying it too I'm wearing 8 00:00:21,750 --> 00:00:26,490 a black shot though I'm in mourning for 9 00:00:23,750 --> 00:00:29,250 Mourinho well not quite because he's 10 00:00:26,490 --> 00:00:32,550 made off with twenty two point five 11 00:00:29,250 --> 00:00:33,600 million pounds in compensation which if 12 00:00:32,550 --> 00:00:36,660 you're going to be sacked at 13 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:39,989 Christmastime isn't a bad it's no 14 00:00:36,660 --> 00:00:42,780 compensator isn't a bad solace so 15 00:00:39,989 --> 00:00:45,270 there's no need to weep for josie marino 16 00:00:42,780 --> 00:00:47,760 though it will always be a special one 17 00:00:45,270 --> 00:00:49,590 for me it just didn't work out as well 18 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:54,090 at mansion place so sorry I have to 19 00:00:49,590 --> 00:00:56,460 interrupt who's Maria I know the name 20 00:00:54,090 --> 00:00:58,289 obviously um I was I couldn't I wouldn't 21 00:00:56,460 --> 00:01:00,239 have told you he's the manager of 22 00:00:58,289 --> 00:01:02,730 Manchester United if you'd have asked me 23 00:01:00,239 --> 00:01:05,250 so what what's got for a novice what's 24 00:01:02,730 --> 00:01:08,610 going on my ok josie marino their 25 00:01:05,250 --> 00:01:11,040 special one has won titles and european 26 00:01:08,610 --> 00:01:15,360 championships all over europe starting 27 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:19,470 off in portugal but also in Spain and in 28 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:22,049 Italy and here with Josie to terms with 29 00:01:19,470 --> 00:01:23,970 Chelsea and he did fantastically well 30 00:01:22,049 --> 00:01:26,070 there he came to Manchester United two 31 00:01:23,970 --> 00:01:28,820 and a half years ago he spent four 32 00:01:26,070 --> 00:01:31,740 hundred million pounds the club is 33 00:01:28,820 --> 00:01:34,079 languishing in sixth place a long way 34 00:01:31,740 --> 00:01:36,329 behind the others in the top four you've 35 00:01:34,079 --> 00:01:38,430 got to finish in the top four to get 36 00:01:36,329 --> 00:01:41,549 into the European Champions League which 37 00:01:38,430 --> 00:01:44,220 is where the big bucks are so Manchester 38 00:01:41,549 --> 00:01:47,250 United's billionaire American owners who 39 00:01:44,220 --> 00:01:52,409 know nothing about football and that the 40 00:01:47,250 --> 00:01:54,329 glaziers and they own some sports outfit 41 00:01:52,409 --> 00:01:56,369 in the United States they've got nothing 42 00:01:54,329 --> 00:01:58,969 to do with Manchester nothing to do with 43 00:01:56,369 --> 00:02:02,219 United know nothing about football and 44 00:01:58,969 --> 00:02:06,119 last year took out 18 million pounds in 45 00:02:02,219 --> 00:02:08,459 dividends sold I think 13 million pounds 46 00:02:06,119 --> 00:02:10,590 worth of their shares they're doing 47 00:02:08,459 --> 00:02:15,239 really well United really 48 00:02:10,590 --> 00:02:18,330 badly and basically a squad of misfits 49 00:02:15,239 --> 00:02:21,150 has been assembled by Mourinho and his 50 00:02:18,330 --> 00:02:23,190 predecessors not the cost of many 51 00:02:21,150 --> 00:02:25,530 hundreds of millions of pounds and are 52 00:02:23,190 --> 00:02:28,290 completely misfiring they seem to hate 53 00:02:25,530 --> 00:02:30,090 the manager so the performance level has 54 00:02:28,290 --> 00:02:34,379 dipped I would argue they've been 55 00:02:30,090 --> 00:02:36,090 deliberately sabotaging the interests of 56 00:02:34,379 --> 00:02:38,970 the fans in order to get rid of the 57 00:02:36,090 --> 00:02:43,400 manager which is a very very ugly look 58 00:02:38,970 --> 00:02:45,959 my solution is to put Carrick the 59 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:48,269 assistant coach former captain of the 60 00:02:45,959 --> 00:02:50,880 team and who's sitting there on the 61 00:02:48,269 --> 00:02:53,099 bench next to Mourinho put him in charge 62 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:55,440 he's got United at heart he knows the 63 00:02:53,099 --> 00:02:58,260 game he knows the players and crucially 64 00:02:55,440 --> 00:03:02,400 had clear out these expensive misfits 65 00:02:58,260 --> 00:03:06,060 one of them Sanchez is being paid half a 66 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:09,000 million pounds per week and he's almost 67 00:03:06,060 --> 00:03:11,280 never in the starting eleven that's how 68 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:14,549 much of a flop he's been others like 69 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:16,440 Lukaku and pogba cost almost 200 million 70 00:03:14,549 --> 00:03:18,930 pounds for the two of them they'll be on 71 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:21,930 top-drawer wages but they're not 72 00:03:18,930 --> 00:03:25,200 performing at all so is this essentially 73 00:03:21,930 --> 00:03:28,260 then as so my take on this end is this 74 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:30,750 essentially a sort of hyper capitalist 75 00:03:28,260 --> 00:03:32,790 and situation where essentially you've 76 00:03:30,750 --> 00:03:35,910 got the owners wanting more and more 77 00:03:32,790 --> 00:03:40,109 profit more and more money and because I 78 00:03:35,910 --> 00:03:41,400 mean six sixth place terrible I suppose 79 00:03:40,109 --> 00:03:43,709 it's terrible in terms of Manchester you 80 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:46,079 know if you've gone you know the great 81 00:03:43,709 --> 00:03:48,900 days if you've known George best and 82 00:03:46,079 --> 00:03:51,180 Denis Law and Bobby Charlton or if 83 00:03:48,900 --> 00:03:54,239 you've known the record-breaking run of 84 00:03:51,180 --> 00:03:56,639 Sir Alex Ferguson as manager when United 85 00:03:54,239 --> 00:03:59,069 won everything that was in front of them 86 00:03:56,639 --> 00:04:02,790 almost all the time it's quite a 87 00:03:59,069 --> 00:04:04,769 comedown and the humiliation of a 3-1 88 00:04:02,790 --> 00:04:07,950 defeat which could easily have been six 89 00:04:04,769 --> 00:04:12,599 one from Liverpool they're great rivals 90 00:04:07,950 --> 00:04:14,880 on Saturday was the final straw it's not 91 00:04:12,599 --> 00:04:17,280 so much that they're not making money 92 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:20,190 you could scarcely make more money than 93 00:04:17,280 --> 00:04:24,130 United which is a gigantic money-making 94 00:04:20,190 --> 00:04:27,010 machine a worldwide brand it's fear 95 00:04:24,130 --> 00:04:28,780 if they don't qualify for the Champions 96 00:04:27,010 --> 00:04:29,590 League which currently looks way out of 97 00:04:28,780 --> 00:04:31,690 sight 98 00:04:29,590 --> 00:04:34,840 then that would be the beginning of a 99 00:04:31,690 --> 00:04:37,690 slight right because nobody's too good 100 00:04:34,840 --> 00:04:40,060 to go down down down the table and then 101 00:04:37,690 --> 00:04:42,700 you begin to worry about losing money 102 00:04:40,060 --> 00:04:45,070 but my my key point is Manchester 103 00:04:42,700 --> 00:04:46,870 United's youth team virtually none of 104 00:04:45,070 --> 00:04:49,240 whom have managed to break through into 105 00:04:46,870 --> 00:04:50,050 the first team of the best youth team in 106 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:54,280 the country 107 00:04:50,050 --> 00:04:56,890 they beat Chelsea 4-1 the night before 108 00:04:54,280 --> 00:04:58,510 Mourinho was sacked virtually nobody 109 00:04:56,890 --> 00:05:00,730 knows the name of them because they 110 00:04:58,510 --> 00:05:03,550 never break through into the team so my 111 00:05:00,730 --> 00:05:06,970 solution put Carrick in charge and 112 00:05:03,550 --> 00:05:09,700 promote the youth get read in January of 113 00:05:06,970 --> 00:05:14,620 some at least of these expensive misfits 114 00:05:09,700 --> 00:05:18,940 so josie marino is gone but trees are 115 00:05:14,620 --> 00:05:25,090 made she's quite where to begin with 116 00:05:18,940 --> 00:05:27,250 this yeah I mean yes it's been a 117 00:05:25,090 --> 00:05:29,530 fascinating year watching and the bricks 118 00:05:27,250 --> 00:05:31,720 it debark will pay out if you like and 119 00:05:29,530 --> 00:05:32,920 and it's gonna go to the wire I mean we 120 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,300 probably could record a show on 121 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:37,030 Christmas Day because there have been 122 00:05:34,300 --> 00:05:37,660 more developments Christmas might be 123 00:05:37,030 --> 00:05:40,210 canceled 124 00:05:37,660 --> 00:05:42,010 well there they're talking about that 125 00:05:40,210 --> 00:05:44,140 aren't they um because the speaker John 126 00:05:42,010 --> 00:05:46,120 Barker would have the right to pull pull 127 00:05:44,140 --> 00:05:48,760 Parliament back if necessary but I mean 128 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:50,290 at the time of recording so we had this 129 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,000 no confidence in the Prime Minister 130 00:05:50,290 --> 00:05:55,150 motion from Jeremy called absolutely 131 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:58,450 fantastic I love this was a ring crack 132 00:05:55,150 --> 00:06:00,880 it was everyone easy hard running out of 133 00:05:58,450 --> 00:06:03,250 the Jets just pretty it was in second 134 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,870 it was delicious if they had spoke the 135 00:06:03,250 --> 00:06:06,400 mainstream press because labour had been 136 00:06:04,870 --> 00:06:08,410 saying up to the wire that no we're not 137 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,970 going to do this it spooked half of 138 00:06:08,410 --> 00:06:11,860 their own party because reportedly 139 00:06:09,970 --> 00:06:14,320 McDonald didn't know although I'm not 140 00:06:11,860 --> 00:06:18,130 sure you I don't think he knew and his 141 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:21,510 tweet welcoming it was if not childish 142 00:06:18,130 --> 00:06:24,580 they're less than enthusiastic and then 143 00:06:21,510 --> 00:06:26,710 he just dropped this on Parliament it's 144 00:06:24,580 --> 00:06:29,320 not five to six yeah just when older 145 00:06:26,710 --> 00:06:31,660 news was a camera takes a role at six 146 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:34,090 o'clock for anyone who says that his the 147 00:06:31,660 --> 00:06:35,710 team around him hasn't pulled it back 148 00:06:34,090 --> 00:06:36,729 because I was skeptical of them first 149 00:06:35,710 --> 00:06:39,460 and they weren't before 150 00:06:36,729 --> 00:06:41,199 for the first period of his tenure as 151 00:06:39,460 --> 00:06:43,210 leader but I think in the past few 152 00:06:41,199 --> 00:06:45,909 months they they seem to have pulled it 153 00:06:43,210 --> 00:06:48,460 together and he's being now quite well 154 00:06:45,909 --> 00:06:51,460 advised yeah I think and also he knows 155 00:06:48,460 --> 00:06:55,599 Parliament very well I mean I suggested 156 00:06:51,460 --> 00:06:57,789 last night a device to his people which 157 00:06:55,599 --> 00:07:00,339 is emotion if she won't allow because it 158 00:06:57,789 --> 00:07:02,919 seems she's not allowing a motion of no 159 00:07:00,339 --> 00:07:05,589 confidence in herself that's British 160 00:07:02,919 --> 00:07:07,539 democracy there's a no emotion of no 161 00:07:05,589 --> 00:07:09,999 content in the Prime Minister but the 162 00:07:07,539 --> 00:07:12,789 Prime Minister has the power to refuse 163 00:07:09,999 --> 00:07:15,370 to hear it yet and allow it to be taken 164 00:07:12,789 --> 00:07:19,149 but there is a device that cannot be 165 00:07:15,370 --> 00:07:21,759 gainsaid and I suggested it to Corbin's 166 00:07:19,149 --> 00:07:24,819 people last night which is to move a 167 00:07:21,759 --> 00:07:27,009 reduction in her salary of five pounds 168 00:07:24,819 --> 00:07:30,370 they have ten pounds which is tantamount 169 00:07:27,009 --> 00:07:33,159 to no confidence yeah greatly 170 00:07:30,370 --> 00:07:36,789 embarrassing if it passes and there's a 171 00:07:33,159 --> 00:07:39,279 chance that it could pass yeah but but 172 00:07:36,789 --> 00:07:41,589 they'd already thought of it so the 173 00:07:39,279 --> 00:07:44,589 carbons been in Parliament for 35 years 174 00:07:41,589 --> 00:07:46,990 and it shows yeah I think he knows the 175 00:07:44,589 --> 00:07:48,759 rules he knows his way around the ropes 176 00:07:46,990 --> 00:07:50,469 in the ring and I thought it was a 177 00:07:48,759 --> 00:07:53,439 brilliant piece of ring craft last night 178 00:07:50,469 --> 00:07:55,479 it was absolutely I mean so to take it 179 00:07:53,439 --> 00:07:57,099 into context of what could happen moving 180 00:07:55,479 --> 00:07:58,930 forward I mean essentially as you say 181 00:07:57,099 --> 00:08:01,629 and the government has said no we're not 182 00:07:58,930 --> 00:08:03,009 going to debate this motion into resume 183 00:08:01,629 --> 00:08:05,860 which they are allowed to do because 184 00:08:03,009 --> 00:08:08,169 looking at the makeup of this session of 185 00:08:05,860 --> 00:08:10,870 Parliament which runs to 2019 labour 186 00:08:08,169 --> 00:08:12,370 have already used up their 17 allocated 187 00:08:10,870 --> 00:08:13,839 opposition day debates for the sole 188 00:08:12,370 --> 00:08:15,699 session so any more opposition day 189 00:08:13,839 --> 00:08:17,139 debates they want our either at the 190 00:08:15,699 --> 00:08:18,669 discretion of the whips or the 191 00:08:17,139 --> 00:08:23,199 discretion of the government to say they 192 00:08:18,669 --> 00:08:26,770 can have them now forward from that the 193 00:08:23,199 --> 00:08:30,189 SMP I think Caroline Lucas and the Lib 194 00:08:26,770 --> 00:08:31,899 Dems have made an amendment to this no 195 00:08:30,189 --> 00:08:34,300 confidence in the Prime Minister making 196 00:08:31,899 --> 00:08:36,069 of mole yeah that'll make it much less 197 00:08:34,300 --> 00:08:38,889 likely to be correct yeah they're 198 00:08:36,069 --> 00:08:40,539 playing game Steve the reason Corbin 199 00:08:38,889 --> 00:08:44,139 didn't table a motion of no confidence 200 00:08:40,539 --> 00:08:47,439 in the whole government is how could any 201 00:08:44,139 --> 00:08:49,020 Tory either vote for it or even abstain 202 00:08:47,439 --> 00:08:51,660 it if it autumn 203 00:08:49,020 --> 00:08:54,480 practically triggered a 21-day period in 204 00:08:51,660 --> 00:08:57,060 which a general election might be the 205 00:08:54,480 --> 00:09:00,030 most likely outcome you're never going 206 00:08:57,060 --> 00:09:03,150 to win a majority like that as long as 207 00:09:00,030 --> 00:09:04,140 the dup are committed to keeping this 208 00:09:03,150 --> 00:09:07,440 government in power 209 00:09:04,140 --> 00:09:10,580 yes which they are so cutely he made the 210 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:15,390 motion in her own heart personally 211 00:09:10,580 --> 00:09:18,300 hoping that some of the 117 Tories who 212 00:09:15,390 --> 00:09:21,180 told the world just a few days ago that 213 00:09:18,300 --> 00:09:23,490 they had no confidence in her as their 214 00:09:21,180 --> 00:09:25,800 leader hoping that some of them would 215 00:09:23,490 --> 00:09:28,500 find the contradiction just too bizarre 216 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:30,810 for them to pop up and say well we don't 217 00:09:28,500 --> 00:09:33,720 want a resolved leader but we do want a 218 00:09:30,810 --> 00:09:36,890 running the country so it was a very 219 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:40,770 clever move and might not have succeeded 220 00:09:36,890 --> 00:09:43,290 but would certainly expose that 117 I 221 00:09:40,770 --> 00:09:46,380 mean how does Jacob Riis Mock the member 222 00:09:43,290 --> 00:09:49,550 for the 19th century lucked out he was 223 00:09:46,380 --> 00:09:52,950 standing in the mall just a few days ago 224 00:09:49,550 --> 00:09:55,650 shouting up at the Queen's bedroom asked 225 00:09:52,950 --> 00:09:59,670 his heart to force trees are made to 226 00:09:55,650 --> 00:10:02,300 resign the same man a few days later has 227 00:09:59,670 --> 00:10:04,920 had to declare he'll be voting 228 00:10:02,300 --> 00:10:07,680 confidence in trees are made yeah cuz 229 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:09,750 only a lowly art the whole ERG group 230 00:10:07,680 --> 00:10:11,160 came out and said that no of course we 231 00:10:09,750 --> 00:10:13,710 wouldn't vote for that as you say makes 232 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:16,230 them look ridiculous yeah I mean it's 233 00:10:13,710 --> 00:10:18,870 it's a preposterous situation that the 234 00:10:16,230 --> 00:10:21,540 SNP and the like are forcing I mean so 235 00:10:18,870 --> 00:10:24,060 we're left with now I mean because it 236 00:10:21,540 --> 00:10:26,310 his no confidence motion in may in my 237 00:10:24,060 --> 00:10:29,940 opinion was just another kind of sucker 238 00:10:26,310 --> 00:10:31,890 punch yeah building up to the what is 239 00:10:29,940 --> 00:10:35,430 now the 14th of January where the where 240 00:10:31,890 --> 00:10:38,820 the debate on the withdrawal agreement 241 00:10:35,430 --> 00:10:41,040 will happen now obviously has to happen 242 00:10:38,820 --> 00:10:43,260 by the 21st probably be a few days 243 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:45,060 before that I mean under the fixed term 244 00:10:43,260 --> 00:10:46,710 Parliament's act he can call a 245 00:10:45,060 --> 00:10:49,500 no-confidence motion and it has to be 246 00:10:46,710 --> 00:10:50,970 debated yeah so that's there's no issue 247 00:10:49,500 --> 00:10:52,470 there with him getting that passed and 248 00:10:50,970 --> 00:10:54,120 he can come back and be no confidence 249 00:10:52,470 --> 00:10:56,640 motion as many times he wants yeah yeah 250 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:59,790 and without remove fight yeah yeah yeah 251 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:01,470 before she spoke Vox didn't excellent 252 00:10:59,790 --> 00:11:03,990 short-sword pace on that and it was 253 00:11:01,470 --> 00:11:05,250 it's very good very interesting um so 254 00:11:03,990 --> 00:11:07,440 we're back to this position again as 255 00:11:05,250 --> 00:11:09,870 we've discussed before about timing for 256 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:13,590 him to do this essentially aren't we 257 00:11:09,870 --> 00:11:16,140 because as you say if these rats and the 258 00:11:13,590 --> 00:11:18,810 sack like the ERG and like within the 259 00:11:16,140 --> 00:11:21,180 toy party won't we won't hold true to 260 00:11:18,810 --> 00:11:22,710 their words and vote no confidence in 261 00:11:21,180 --> 00:11:24,660 her then it's highly unlikely gonna move 262 00:11:22,710 --> 00:11:27,540 against sexual governments so I mean the 263 00:11:24,660 --> 00:11:29,460 dup were in talks with labour lastly and 264 00:11:27,540 --> 00:11:31,800 then they've come out on Tuesday morning 265 00:11:29,460 --> 00:11:33,660 women recording this saying well if she 266 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,160 gets the concessions around the backstop 267 00:11:33,660 --> 00:11:37,800 them we might vote with her but we'll 268 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:39,570 have to see what comes back at that so I 269 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:42,870 mean it's still we're still no further 270 00:11:39,570 --> 00:11:46,290 forward really not really no not really 271 00:11:42,870 --> 00:11:49,740 I thought she keeps saying she will not 272 00:11:46,290 --> 00:11:51,480 hold a second referendum I'm not sure 273 00:11:49,740 --> 00:11:55,650 that we can believe her yeah in any case 274 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:58,260 she might be forced by events and all 275 00:11:55,650 --> 00:12:01,290 the second one I'm against the second 276 00:11:58,260 --> 00:12:03,780 referendum but if there is going to be 277 00:12:01,290 --> 00:12:06,330 one there can only be I think two 278 00:12:03,780 --> 00:12:08,850 choices on the ballot paper for lots of 279 00:12:06,330 --> 00:12:11,850 practical and also democratic reasons 280 00:12:08,850 --> 00:12:14,160 and the two questions are do you want to 281 00:12:11,850 --> 00:12:17,270 leave with trees amazed brexit deal or 282 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:20,370 do you want to just leave yeah on 283 00:12:17,270 --> 00:12:23,580 international terms world trade terms WT 284 00:12:20,370 --> 00:12:27,090 or terms she might win that referendum 285 00:12:23,580 --> 00:12:29,670 but maybe maybe not but that's the only 286 00:12:27,090 --> 00:12:32,250 two legitimate questions to put 287 00:12:29,670 --> 00:12:38,450 remaining in the EU on the ballot paper 288 00:12:32,250 --> 00:12:42,480 is to basically subvert the gigantic 289 00:12:38,450 --> 00:12:47,390 British referendum of 2016 in which 290 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:50,550 leaving the EU won and you can't have 291 00:12:47,390 --> 00:12:52,860 such exercises and not implement the 292 00:12:50,550 --> 00:12:55,830 result otherwise you're inviting people 293 00:12:52,860 --> 00:12:58,050 to well virtually take up arms you're 294 00:12:55,830 --> 00:12:59,040 saying that democracy means nothing yeah 295 00:12:58,050 --> 00:13:01,320 in the country 296 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,580 no and when it's exercised at the ballot 297 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:05,520 box it means nothing 298 00:13:02,580 --> 00:13:08,580 yeah so I hope that she'll resist that I 299 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:11,339 think that she will but the dogs are out 300 00:13:08,580 --> 00:13:13,290 have you noticed well yes with whatever 301 00:13:11,339 --> 00:13:16,529 one have in my opinion are fun 302 00:13:13,290 --> 00:13:19,320 episodes yeah a good who let the dogs 303 00:13:16,529 --> 00:13:22,649 out yes because of course the dog says 304 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:24,660 in the bitter i'ts and the moderates 305 00:13:22,649 --> 00:13:29,009 within the Labour Party those who oppose 306 00:13:24,660 --> 00:13:32,639 Corbin bpe yes those I block them on so 307 00:13:29,009 --> 00:13:35,160 do you duty Houston or whatever BP men I 308 00:13:32,639 --> 00:13:36,899 knew there were bad on yes so I just 309 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,699 block they don't they don't darken my 310 00:13:36,899 --> 00:13:41,550 door oddly enough I'm no I'm not quite 311 00:13:38,699 --> 00:13:44,160 sure why but they are out in force and 312 00:13:41,550 --> 00:13:46,589 of course this then pushing for Corbin 313 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:49,290 to to call this no confidence motion 314 00:13:46,589 --> 00:13:50,970 early is part of their strategy pure 315 00:13:49,290 --> 00:13:53,009 opportunism yeah as we discussed last 316 00:13:50,970 --> 00:13:55,949 week it's them knowing that it will fail 317 00:13:53,009 --> 00:13:58,319 and therefore they'll be able to scream 318 00:13:55,949 --> 00:13:59,940 blue murder about how Corbin is can see 319 00:13:58,319 --> 00:14:03,509 from the pose the government properly 320 00:13:59,940 --> 00:14:07,079 now when he's got that if Labor's 321 00:14:03,509 --> 00:14:10,350 no-confidence motion feels labor will 322 00:14:07,079 --> 00:14:12,660 have to move to photo demanding a second 323 00:14:10,350 --> 00:14:14,430 reference yeah I never used the phrase 324 00:14:12,660 --> 00:14:16,259 people's book because of course it 325 00:14:14,430 --> 00:14:20,370 presupposes that the people that voted 326 00:14:16,259 --> 00:14:23,069 last time were not people oh no it's 327 00:14:20,370 --> 00:14:24,600 very true and of course I mean it it 328 00:14:23,069 --> 00:14:26,639 implies the fact that we really have a 329 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:30,990 say in this whole shadow fair anyway 330 00:14:26,639 --> 00:14:31,980 doesn't it um but there I I don't know 331 00:14:30,990 --> 00:14:33,540 what it's going to take because we've 332 00:14:31,980 --> 00:14:35,819 discussed this before and over the 333 00:14:33,540 --> 00:14:39,269 course of 2018 we've seen this 334 00:14:35,819 --> 00:14:42,079 consistent undermining of Corbin again 335 00:14:39,269 --> 00:14:45,510 for like we're now in year three 336 00:14:42,079 --> 00:14:48,600 Corbin's ten years just being consistent 337 00:14:45,510 --> 00:14:51,329 and they're like dogs with about really 338 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:53,370 are no and yeah exactly and it's and 339 00:14:51,329 --> 00:14:55,800 it's constant and it's like where are 340 00:14:53,370 --> 00:15:00,000 you going to stop this what was it like 341 00:14:55,800 --> 00:15:00,630 barking people won't clean out the 342 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,959 kennel 343 00:15:00,630 --> 00:15:06,750 this is something that we can't overlook 344 00:15:03,959 --> 00:15:09,449 forever no because for example if there 345 00:15:06,750 --> 00:15:11,490 was a snap election now all these people 346 00:15:09,449 --> 00:15:12,540 would be the Labour candidate in their 347 00:15:11,490 --> 00:15:14,670 constituency 348 00:15:12,540 --> 00:15:17,699 yeah I mean if you were a Corbin 349 00:15:14,670 --> 00:15:20,610 supporter in Stratham you'd have to vote 350 00:15:17,699 --> 00:15:24,000 for chaco omana if you were a Corbin 351 00:15:20,610 --> 00:15:25,800 supporter and Ian Austin's constituency 352 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,910 you'd need to vote for him you probably 353 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:31,500 wouldn't because you only 354 00:15:26,910 --> 00:15:33,530 and by 23 votes like but I mean right 355 00:15:31,500 --> 00:15:36,990 across the country all these 356 00:15:33,530 --> 00:15:40,020 backstabbers coup plotters who've done 357 00:15:36,990 --> 00:15:42,420 everything they could to stop a Labour 358 00:15:40,020 --> 00:15:44,850 government coming to power would again 359 00:15:42,420 --> 00:15:46,710 be standing for election wearing the 360 00:15:44,850 --> 00:15:48,570 Labour rosette yeah and of course 361 00:15:46,710 --> 00:15:51,660 actually hasn't done anything about that 362 00:15:48,570 --> 00:15:55,110 no because the whole the the shambolic 363 00:15:51,660 --> 00:15:58,020 an attempt to put a mandatory selection 364 00:15:55,110 --> 00:16:02,510 up on on the slight of the conference 365 00:15:58,020 --> 00:16:05,970 kind of a fell apart 366 00:16:02,510 --> 00:16:08,430 yeah probably for though no no not at 367 00:16:05,970 --> 00:16:10,280 all I don't think it was and I think it 368 00:16:08,430 --> 00:16:13,140 should have been the priority you know 369 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:15,720 because essentially the whole Corbin 370 00:16:13,140 --> 00:16:18,450 movement and the Corbin agenda is in 371 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:20,610 part none void while these people it's 372 00:16:18,450 --> 00:16:23,640 because imagine of liberal going with a 373 00:16:20,610 --> 00:16:26,070 small majority yeah did boss lease tire 374 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:27,870 so he couldn't go to the palace to get 375 00:16:26,070 --> 00:16:30,300 the job and it should have been his 376 00:16:27,870 --> 00:16:32,370 priority in his team's priority to push 377 00:16:30,300 --> 00:16:33,780 mandatory livery selection through him 378 00:16:32,370 --> 00:16:36,180 what we ended up with was of course this 379 00:16:33,780 --> 00:16:38,430 kind of watered-down nonsense where the 380 00:16:36,180 --> 00:16:41,010 the Labour machinery still picks the 381 00:16:38,430 --> 00:16:42,690 candidates and constituency parties have 382 00:16:41,010 --> 00:16:44,460 the final say that they'll be left with 383 00:16:42,690 --> 00:16:47,070 a bunch of rotten egg and only if you've 384 00:16:44,460 --> 00:16:48,630 got time yeah if it happened quickly 385 00:16:47,070 --> 00:16:50,760 yeah everything was happening quickly 386 00:16:48,630 --> 00:16:53,130 there's no choice at all there's no time 387 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:55,500 to have a trigger ballot and replace 388 00:16:53,130 --> 00:16:59,790 people know so he stitched up like a you 389 00:16:55,500 --> 00:17:01,410 Keffer effectively and I can't again I 390 00:16:59,790 --> 00:17:04,260 can't see this being resolved anytime 391 00:17:01,410 --> 00:17:07,260 soon there's no he's given himself no 392 00:17:04,260 --> 00:17:09,480 mechanism and no mood maneuverability to 393 00:17:07,260 --> 00:17:11,460 solve this problem and they won't relent 394 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:13,710 George they are never going to rule on 395 00:17:11,460 --> 00:17:16,050 over their loyalties to Blair and his 396 00:17:13,710 --> 00:17:19,950 method of doing things 397 00:17:16,050 --> 00:17:24,600 he's never off the televisions he seems 398 00:17:19,950 --> 00:17:26,520 to be completely unselfconscious about 399 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:29,970 what people in the country think about 400 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:32,310 him there he has minus 50 ratings hell 401 00:17:29,970 --> 00:17:35,400 yes - the lowest in Britain it's as low 402 00:17:32,310 --> 00:17:36,650 as macro it's much lower even than 403 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:40,280 macron 404 00:17:36,650 --> 00:17:45,560 and twice as low as me she's minus 22 405 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:48,140 he's minus 50 so people actually hate 406 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:50,990 seeing him and yet he can't stay away 407 00:17:48,140 --> 00:17:53,600 it's the smell of the crowd the roar of 408 00:17:50,990 --> 00:17:55,580 the greasepaint he's I think that's 409 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:57,020 there's something so sociopathically 410 00:17:55,580 --> 00:18:00,140 could be a bit wrong with him I think 411 00:17:57,020 --> 00:18:02,360 yeah it's looking more and more like the 412 00:18:00,140 --> 00:18:05,540 portrait of Dorian Gray yeah it's yeah 413 00:18:02,360 --> 00:18:08,930 it's just I don't know he said this year 414 00:18:05,540 --> 00:18:10,610 has seen him repeatedly coming back to 415 00:18:08,930 --> 00:18:12,590 smoke at all Lords and the journalist 416 00:18:10,610 --> 00:18:14,750 never asked him a single question for 417 00:18:12,590 --> 00:18:18,860 example when he popped up the other day 418 00:18:14,750 --> 00:18:23,450 it was the day after the US Senate had 419 00:18:18,860 --> 00:18:25,880 found MBS the Saudi Crown Prince guilty 420 00:18:23,450 --> 00:18:26,960 of the mother of an American newspaper 421 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:31,060 columnist 422 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:35,060 Jamal keshavjee and nobody asked Blair 423 00:18:31,060 --> 00:18:38,510 you work for this guy yeah for nine 424 00:18:35,060 --> 00:18:41,720 million a year have you got anything to 425 00:18:38,510 --> 00:18:45,650 say about the fact they do as Senate has 426 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:47,780 just called them a murderer not one 427 00:18:45,650 --> 00:18:49,310 journalist asked him that and this is 428 00:18:47,780 --> 00:18:51,770 part of the problem is given essentially 429 00:18:49,310 --> 00:18:53,540 a free reign like and like the Alastair 430 00:18:51,770 --> 00:18:57,050 Campbell's of this world are I mean in 431 00:18:53,540 --> 00:18:58,400 any other in any other planets Tony 432 00:18:57,050 --> 00:19:01,700 Blair and Alastair Campbell would be 433 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:05,300 locked up to be under arrest tagged yeah 434 00:19:01,700 --> 00:19:08,720 waiting but but in our world that 435 00:19:05,300 --> 00:19:11,270 they're still given the platform like 436 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:14,390 that like their opinions are even valid 437 00:19:11,270 --> 00:19:17,810 platforms and deference reverence 438 00:19:14,390 --> 00:19:18,830 reverences in the case of Blair it's 439 00:19:17,810 --> 00:19:21,230 extraordinary 440 00:19:18,830 --> 00:19:22,790 I think I just want a segue into 441 00:19:21,230 --> 00:19:25,850 something else they're going brought up 442 00:19:22,790 --> 00:19:27,680 brought up Saudi Arabia I discuss this I 443 00:19:25,850 --> 00:19:30,560 record this yesterday with the wonderful 444 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:34,730 US comedian Lee Camp great guy he hosted 445 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:36,560 a 100 lei if you're watching this 446 00:19:34,730 --> 00:19:39,590 where's that offer that you keep 447 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:40,970 promising me great segment with him also 448 00:19:39,590 --> 00:19:43,340 and we discussed at length the Middle 449 00:19:40,970 --> 00:19:44,840 East and because I think it's important 450 00:19:43,340 --> 00:19:47,030 to be touched on this because you talked 451 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:49,730 about the keshavjee murder I mean this 452 00:19:47,030 --> 00:19:51,140 year has been 453 00:19:49,730 --> 00:19:53,600 not necessarily one of the most 454 00:19:51,140 --> 00:19:55,940 staggering years for situations in 455 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:58,010 Middle East I've witnessed in my short 456 00:19:55,940 --> 00:20:00,020 time involved in politics and I think 457 00:19:58,010 --> 00:20:02,300 2014 was the Operation protective edge 458 00:20:00,020 --> 00:20:03,860 that was quite quite something else but 459 00:20:02,300 --> 00:20:05,300 it's been a chaotic year in the Middle 460 00:20:03,860 --> 00:20:07,340 East I mean you have you have the 461 00:20:05,300 --> 00:20:10,730 situation in Syria and we had that all 462 00:20:07,340 --> 00:20:14,120 doom a nerve agents attack that never 463 00:20:10,730 --> 00:20:16,430 was a nerve agent of course you have the 464 00:20:14,120 --> 00:20:18,590 situation in Yemen which the u.s. seems 465 00:20:16,430 --> 00:20:22,220 to be making a small amount of 466 00:20:18,590 --> 00:20:24,440 maneuvering now away far today yeah away 467 00:20:22,220 --> 00:20:27,140 from Saudi Arabia where the UK has 468 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:30,110 staunch liened dogmatically a maintained 469 00:20:27,140 --> 00:20:31,520 loyal support for Saudi Arabia and then 470 00:20:30,110 --> 00:20:34,490 you have of course the ongoing situation 471 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:36,290 with Gaza Israel Palestine and you have 472 00:20:34,490 --> 00:20:38,450 interesting moves from Qatar and we're 473 00:20:36,290 --> 00:20:41,510 joined from the OPEC which has put the 474 00:20:38,450 --> 00:20:44,780 Catamounts pigeon completely but I do 475 00:20:41,510 --> 00:20:46,850 you think looking at this year is the 476 00:20:44,780 --> 00:20:49,040 sum of all parts and thinking ahead for 477 00:20:46,850 --> 00:20:50,990 next year how what do you think we're 478 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,850 going to see any foreign policy movement 479 00:20:50,990 --> 00:20:54,680 from the government we can't be have 480 00:20:52,850 --> 00:20:56,150 regarding the Middle East because not 481 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:59,030 from this government apart from anything 482 00:20:56,150 --> 00:21:01,970 else they have no time or intellectual 483 00:20:59,030 --> 00:21:04,850 space to even think about other things 484 00:21:01,970 --> 00:21:07,010 they are completely infatuated with the 485 00:21:04,850 --> 00:21:09,740 brexit issue as well there might be 486 00:21:07,010 --> 00:21:13,940 because it is the biggest British issue 487 00:21:09,740 --> 00:21:15,800 since the Second World War and it's you 488 00:21:13,940 --> 00:21:18,860 know only weeks away it's a hundred days 489 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:23,180 away 99 action is done at the point of 490 00:21:18,860 --> 00:21:25,790 this recording and nobody knows who's 491 00:21:23,180 --> 00:21:28,490 going to lead us or on what basis so I 492 00:21:25,790 --> 00:21:30,950 doubt they're doing much foreign policy 493 00:21:28,490 --> 00:21:34,790 thinking I just maybe I'll challenge 494 00:21:30,950 --> 00:21:38,210 your point I think 2018 has been a year 495 00:21:34,790 --> 00:21:43,010 of grim attrition let's start with Yemen 496 00:21:38,210 --> 00:21:47,690 where maybe half a million people have 497 00:21:43,010 --> 00:21:50,410 died from cholera from starvation from 498 00:21:47,690 --> 00:21:55,510 bombardment from various illnesses 499 00:21:50,410 --> 00:22:00,290 associated with with with starvation and 500 00:21:55,510 --> 00:22:03,110 in Palestine it's been virtually daily 501 00:22:00,290 --> 00:22:04,880 and every Friday 502 00:22:03,110 --> 00:22:07,570 huge spike in the number of people 503 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:11,390 killed children especially women 504 00:22:07,570 --> 00:22:14,750 journalists paramedics that there was a 505 00:22:11,390 --> 00:22:17,660 four year old baby died yesterday from 506 00:22:14,750 --> 00:22:21,799 wounds sustained either the previous 507 00:22:17,660 --> 00:22:26,059 Friday or the Friday before that and is 508 00:22:21,799 --> 00:22:30,920 really grandi has just called for the 509 00:22:26,059 --> 00:22:33,850 mother the decapitation literally of of 510 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:37,990 the president of the Palestine Authority 511 00:22:33,850 --> 00:22:42,110 Abu Mazen the Palestinians have been 512 00:22:37,990 --> 00:22:46,250 utterly forgotten and yet they continue 513 00:22:42,110 --> 00:22:48,350 to die in industrial numbers of course 514 00:22:46,250 --> 00:22:52,490 you're right that protective edge and 515 00:22:48,350 --> 00:22:55,280 cast lead before a few years before were 516 00:22:52,490 --> 00:22:57,440 more dramatic and that they were a huge 517 00:22:55,280 --> 00:23:00,380 number of people being killed at the 518 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:02,870 same time but for the Palestinians has 519 00:23:00,380 --> 00:23:05,540 been a very grim year not just the 520 00:23:02,870 --> 00:23:09,020 injury that they've suffered but the 521 00:23:05,540 --> 00:23:11,630 insult added to the injury of nobody 522 00:23:09,020 --> 00:23:14,960 actually giving a toss about it I'll 523 00:23:11,630 --> 00:23:17,350 give ya okay I'm take your point on the 524 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:20,000 israel-palestine Garza situation yeah 525 00:23:17,350 --> 00:23:22,700 III think as you say the indifference 526 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:24,860 and the issues almost been forgotten I 527 00:23:22,700 --> 00:23:26,990 mean we had there was a sort of flurry 528 00:23:24,860 --> 00:23:31,070 of interest at the start of the great 529 00:23:26,990 --> 00:23:34,070 return March the from the meteor and the 530 00:23:31,070 --> 00:23:35,870 sort of left's and commentary at but 531 00:23:34,070 --> 00:23:38,900 that interests or peaked and then died 532 00:23:35,870 --> 00:23:43,040 of about it I think for me though it's 533 00:23:38,900 --> 00:23:45,110 not because not withstanding Israel Gaza 534 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:48,919 but the Middle East at all and I mean 535 00:23:45,110 --> 00:23:52,340 for me sort of 2016 was a particularly 536 00:23:48,919 --> 00:23:54,470 bad year for the reason that we had a 537 00:23:52,340 --> 00:23:56,299 chance to stop what was going on in 538 00:23:54,470 --> 00:23:59,570 Yemen at that point because it's only 539 00:23:56,299 --> 00:24:01,490 been going on for a year and what makes 540 00:23:59,570 --> 00:24:04,580 this year so sickening for me is that 541 00:24:01,490 --> 00:24:07,940 the Western press have now suddenly all 542 00:24:04,580 --> 00:24:10,340 jumped onboard they got [ __ ] get 543 00:24:07,940 --> 00:24:12,710 enough of it um when it's too [ __ ] 544 00:24:10,340 --> 00:24:14,540 late this the situation in Yemen is now 545 00:24:12,710 --> 00:24:14,960 in my opinion gone past the point of no 546 00:24:14,540 --> 00:24:17,779 return 547 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:19,700 it is too late for anything to be done 548 00:24:17,779 --> 00:24:21,980 now that we're literally going to be 549 00:24:19,700 --> 00:24:25,220 mopping up the blood and the dead bodies 550 00:24:21,980 --> 00:24:27,590 and and little else is possible now well 551 00:24:25,220 --> 00:24:30,770 it's ironic isn't it that britain 552 00:24:27,590 --> 00:24:33,230 including the husband of Britain's prime 553 00:24:30,770 --> 00:24:37,340 minister who profits mightily from armed 554 00:24:33,230 --> 00:24:40,490 sales has been earning money for private 555 00:24:37,340 --> 00:24:44,929 companies through military transfers of 556 00:24:40,490 --> 00:24:47,929 Technology and expertise and the British 557 00:24:44,929 --> 00:24:50,750 public will be asked to charitably give 558 00:24:47,929 --> 00:24:55,640 to mop up the blood you're talking about 559 00:24:50,750 --> 00:24:58,820 shed by British weapons and nobody in 560 00:24:55,640 --> 00:25:01,610 the media ever joins these two dots 561 00:24:58,820 --> 00:25:04,279 together and says hey wait a minute 562 00:25:01,610 --> 00:25:07,820 um but of course we now know more about 563 00:25:04,279 --> 00:25:11,600 the media than we did well last time we 564 00:25:07,820 --> 00:25:14,360 spoke we did yes integrity initiative 565 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:19,340 which is funded by the British 566 00:25:14,360 --> 00:25:21,890 government to undermine other countries 567 00:25:19,340 --> 00:25:24,350 and not just countries that we would 568 00:25:21,890 --> 00:25:27,830 regard or our state regards as enemies 569 00:25:24,350 --> 00:25:31,010 like Russia but Spain for example the 570 00:25:27,830 --> 00:25:34,399 integrity initiative posted that I had 571 00:25:31,010 --> 00:25:37,909 stopped the appointment as Minister of 572 00:25:34,399 --> 00:25:41,480 Defence in Spain of the former 573 00:25:37,909 --> 00:25:43,789 intelligence chief in Spain who they 574 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,820 regard as is insufficiently warlike yet 575 00:25:43,789 --> 00:25:48,830 towards Russia 576 00:25:45,820 --> 00:25:52,730 they boasted about it so British 577 00:25:48,830 --> 00:25:56,360 government money spent to undermine the 578 00:25:52,730 --> 00:25:59,510 political and democratic system in Spain 579 00:25:56,360 --> 00:26:02,230 one of our allies one of the countries 580 00:25:59,510 --> 00:26:06,409 were depending on to cut us some slack 581 00:26:02,230 --> 00:26:09,640 over the brexit negotiations and of 582 00:26:06,409 --> 00:26:12,169 course the coup de Grasse I think for 583 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,799 this integrity initiative at least I 584 00:26:12,169 --> 00:26:14,510 hope so 585 00:26:12,799 --> 00:26:17,690 it's the revelation that they've also 586 00:26:14,510 --> 00:26:20,690 been working in Britain to undermine the 587 00:26:17,690 --> 00:26:23,149 labor opposition in Parliament now and 588 00:26:20,690 --> 00:26:24,980 the leader of the Opposition this is the 589 00:26:23,149 --> 00:26:28,480 first time this has ever happened you 590 00:26:24,980 --> 00:26:31,790 know yeah at least overtly 591 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:34,220 dozens of such hundreds may be of such 592 00:26:31,790 --> 00:26:35,690 anti-labour operations from the deep 593 00:26:34,220 --> 00:26:38,390 state but they've never been captured 594 00:26:35,690 --> 00:26:40,370 before no I think yeah it's been a 595 00:26:38,390 --> 00:26:43,340 fascinating year watching the sort of 596 00:26:40,370 --> 00:26:45,980 the undoing of the mainstream press in 597 00:26:43,340 --> 00:26:48,040 this country I mean we've we've gone 598 00:26:45,980 --> 00:26:50,390 from sort of the sublime the 599 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:53,360 preposterous reporting around the 600 00:26:50,390 --> 00:26:55,850 scribble-scribble of fair and the the 601 00:26:53,360 --> 00:26:59,809 more holes and Swiss cheese that came 602 00:26:55,850 --> 00:27:01,700 out of that to the Guardian fabricating 603 00:26:59,809 --> 00:27:04,490 a story about Julian Assange and a 604 00:27:01,700 --> 00:27:07,010 journalist visiting they still have 605 00:27:04,490 --> 00:27:10,460 retracted it they still standing by till 606 00:27:07,010 --> 00:27:13,250 not retracted still not defended exactly 607 00:27:10,460 --> 00:27:14,660 left there yep and the will forget about 608 00:27:13,250 --> 00:27:16,610 it yeah which we won't 609 00:27:14,660 --> 00:27:18,380 and then as you've already point out to 610 00:27:16,610 --> 00:27:22,130 the integrity initiative which is expose 611 00:27:18,380 --> 00:27:26,600 the likes of Belling crap and brands for 612 00:27:22,130 --> 00:27:30,650 coins codswallop bras feed the Dean 613 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:32,809 Nelson of the Sunday Times yeah who I 614 00:27:30,650 --> 00:27:35,900 knew when he was a Trotskyite member of 615 00:27:32,809 --> 00:27:38,000 a militant a tendency although he knows 616 00:27:35,900 --> 00:27:40,040 his he actually only infiltrated them 617 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,600 soon and all has a right about there 618 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,400 wasn't a journalist at the time and of 619 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:46,370 course which makes them either a 620 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:51,380 professional deceiver or a Trotsky one 621 00:27:46,370 --> 00:27:58,750 of the two and the coin Nick the 622 00:27:51,380 --> 00:28:02,330 observer and [ __ ] as at the trough of 623 00:27:58,750 --> 00:28:05,390 British government funding spook funding 624 00:28:02,330 --> 00:28:10,570 a deep state intelligence operation 625 00:28:05,390 --> 00:28:13,610 exactly are there something hungrily was 626 00:28:10,570 --> 00:28:16,280 opining on a Sunday or whenever they're 627 00:28:13,610 --> 00:28:18,440 writing as decent honest journalists 628 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:21,290 really giving us what they feel what 629 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:23,780 they think is you have to have a heart 630 00:28:21,290 --> 00:28:25,970 stone not to laugh really yeah I know 631 00:28:23,780 --> 00:28:27,650 it's tag right do you'll be glad to hear 632 00:28:25,970 --> 00:28:30,559 that Steve I can bring you this news you 633 00:28:27,650 --> 00:28:33,590 haven't heard it yet you know they were 634 00:28:30,559 --> 00:28:37,400 ensconced in that derelict mill oh yes 635 00:28:33,590 --> 00:28:38,780 near dr. Marty yes and one felt for them 636 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,250 because it's cold up there at this time 637 00:28:38,780 --> 00:28:43,860 of year and the windows were broken 638 00:28:41,250 --> 00:28:46,590 as on this nil I mean it was it was 639 00:28:43,860 --> 00:28:50,250 really Darrell and while they've moved 640 00:28:46,590 --> 00:28:54,680 now that I had moved to the most 641 00:28:50,250 --> 00:28:58,700 prestigious basement in London in temple 642 00:28:54,680 --> 00:29:03,270 near the temple underground station a 643 00:28:58,700 --> 00:29:06,180 multi multi-million pound beautiful 644 00:29:03,270 --> 00:29:09,210 building and they are now the tenants 645 00:29:06,180 --> 00:29:14,490 but in their accounts they're not paying 646 00:29:09,210 --> 00:29:21,000 rent or rates to anybody so who might 647 00:29:14,490 --> 00:29:24,470 the landlord be go on mi5 else no yes an 648 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:28,380 mi5 building that they are living in 649 00:29:24,470 --> 00:29:31,860 rent-free grace and favor and we know 650 00:29:28,380 --> 00:29:34,020 this because a journalist now this is 651 00:29:31,860 --> 00:29:36,630 the integrity initiative looking for 652 00:29:34,020 --> 00:29:39,570 truth and integrity in journalism a 653 00:29:36,630 --> 00:29:42,960 journalist dropped in on them and was 654 00:29:39,570 --> 00:29:45,300 physically manhandled out the door was 655 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,470 this some and I'm not sure if I've read 656 00:29:45,300 --> 00:29:48,900 the story but it's flicked up on a 657 00:29:46,470 --> 00:29:52,980 timeline was this food Greystone project 658 00:29:48,900 --> 00:29:56,180 was like that no III it was a fellow 659 00:29:52,980 --> 00:29:59,130 from Sputnik okay from Sputnik radio 660 00:29:56,180 --> 00:30:01,230 tipped off by the Honorable Craig Murray 661 00:29:59,130 --> 00:30:04,110 his Excellency the former British 662 00:30:01,230 --> 00:30:06,450 ambassador in whose Becca Stein former 663 00:30:04,110 --> 00:30:09,390 Foreign Office grandi see their problem 664 00:30:06,450 --> 00:30:10,890 is he knows them all and it's felt like 665 00:30:09,390 --> 00:30:14,010 I was saying about Korbin early on 666 00:30:10,890 --> 00:30:17,430 knowing Parliament great money knows 667 00:30:14,010 --> 00:30:20,910 this books yeah no usually in the same 668 00:30:17,430 --> 00:30:23,520 building as them yeah and thank God 669 00:30:20,910 --> 00:30:26,850 he's still alive and healthy and giving 670 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:30,330 us on it yeah don't go for anything 671 00:30:26,850 --> 00:30:32,610 walks in the woods no and segwaying into 672 00:30:30,330 --> 00:30:35,220 that of course so the mainstream media's 673 00:30:32,610 --> 00:30:37,590 been falling apart around our eyes this 674 00:30:35,220 --> 00:30:40,470 year and yet lashing out at the likes of 675 00:30:37,590 --> 00:30:46,860 you and me and our mutual friends action 676 00:30:40,470 --> 00:30:50,040 on Artie yeah I told you to line that 677 00:30:46,860 --> 00:30:51,780 red phone and in the midst of all that 678 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:54,929 of course you have the likes of you and 679 00:30:51,780 --> 00:30:57,779 me you keep keep keep going don't we 680 00:30:54,929 --> 00:30:59,759 enjoy your crowdfunder for your film 681 00:30:57,779 --> 00:31:02,039 about the killing of dr. David Kelly has 682 00:30:59,759 --> 00:31:06,509 made its target yes 683 00:31:02,039 --> 00:31:09,419 on Sunday we broke through the executive 684 00:31:06,509 --> 00:31:10,379 producer as I can now call him mr. Scott 685 00:31:09,419 --> 00:31:13,190 Fletcher 686 00:31:10,379 --> 00:31:14,969 MBE the Northwest of England 687 00:31:13,190 --> 00:31:17,580 entrepreneur of the year 688 00:31:14,969 --> 00:31:20,729 made a very handsome 3,000 pound 689 00:31:17,580 --> 00:31:23,339 donation on Sunday evening which took us 690 00:31:20,729 --> 00:31:25,619 through the target no we keep 691 00:31:23,339 --> 00:31:28,469 fundraising because there's still seven 692 00:31:25,619 --> 00:31:31,769 days to go and get this if anyone were 693 00:31:28,469 --> 00:31:34,080 to pull their money out at this stage in 694 00:31:31,769 --> 00:31:37,259 sufficient amounts that it took us below 695 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:39,779 the 15 the whole project is wrecked 696 00:31:37,259 --> 00:31:41,729 because if we don't get 50 we don't get 697 00:31:39,779 --> 00:31:46,919 any so you need a thanks so we need a 698 00:31:41,729 --> 00:31:50,009 backup top backstop to make sure that 699 00:31:46,919 --> 00:31:51,960 that cannot happen so please keep giving 700 00:31:50,009 --> 00:31:53,339 by the way no it's said it's are really 701 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,509 important very excited about this I 702 00:31:53,339 --> 00:31:57,119 can't wait for it to go off the grounds 703 00:31:54,509 --> 00:32:00,559 actual Kickstarter have awarded us a 704 00:31:57,119 --> 00:32:04,349 special status to heart them and it says 705 00:32:00,559 --> 00:32:07,879 projects we love so Kickstarter are now 706 00:32:04,349 --> 00:32:12,269 getting behind Kickstarter now call me 707 00:32:07,879 --> 00:32:15,239 next Carole codswallop story infiltrate 708 00:32:12,269 --> 00:32:16,649 by many Russians in Kickstarter even 709 00:32:15,239 --> 00:32:19,259 though it's an American company perhaps 710 00:32:16,649 --> 00:32:21,919 especially because it's an American know 711 00:32:19,259 --> 00:32:27,149 there's rising interest in the film 712 00:32:21,919 --> 00:32:29,639 excitement even because most people have 713 00:32:27,149 --> 00:32:32,389 felt right from the start that there was 714 00:32:29,639 --> 00:32:36,119 something not right about this narrative 715 00:32:32,389 --> 00:32:39,239 that this man would be the last kind of 716 00:32:36,119 --> 00:32:41,159 a man who'd go into the woods and try 717 00:32:39,239 --> 00:32:43,739 and hack his life away with a pen knife 718 00:32:41,159 --> 00:32:46,019 that was blunt yeah and not leave any 719 00:32:43,739 --> 00:32:47,909 fingerprints on it as I said previously 720 00:32:46,019 --> 00:32:51,029 on the show I mean as such for me it's a 721 00:32:47,909 --> 00:32:52,710 it's a vital project that you're doing 722 00:32:51,029 --> 00:32:55,200 not least because I think it's of our 723 00:32:52,710 --> 00:32:58,109 kind of generation of this political 724 00:32:55,200 --> 00:33:00,659 past 30 years it's one of the most 725 00:32:58,109 --> 00:33:02,399 despicable stories but one of the most 726 00:33:00,659 --> 00:33:04,649 important ones as well because it's 727 00:33:02,399 --> 00:33:07,549 another piece of this jigsaw of the 728 00:33:04,649 --> 00:33:10,350 Blair peeling the on Linton 729 00:33:07,549 --> 00:33:12,809 triangulation era which is responsible 730 00:33:10,350 --> 00:33:14,760 for so much of the chaos we now see 731 00:33:12,809 --> 00:33:17,520 around us and as you say it's picking 732 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:19,049 that onion apart so I'm very pleased 733 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,600 you've reached your time I'm calling it 734 00:33:19,049 --> 00:33:23,970 the killing starting a triptych or 735 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:27,120 trilogy because we did the killings of 736 00:33:23,970 --> 00:33:30,419 Tony Blair we're now doing killing Kelly 737 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:33,960 and the next one is on Robin Cook who 738 00:33:30,419 --> 00:33:35,669 killed [ __ ] Robin and now they are 739 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:38,070 another walk in the highlands that way 740 00:33:35,669 --> 00:33:41,549 yes yes so I'll not be going for any 741 00:33:38,070 --> 00:33:43,919 walks in the woods or in the islands be 742 00:33:41,549 --> 00:33:46,080 sure of that so if I'm found in either 743 00:33:43,919 --> 00:33:48,419 place you can be sure someone took me 744 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:53,460 there were no hiking boots this in his 745 00:33:48,419 --> 00:33:54,990 home exactly none now it's important the 746 00:33:53,460 --> 00:33:57,750 story for a number of reasons for the 747 00:33:54,990 --> 00:34:02,010 one you mentioned that emerges from the 748 00:33:57,750 --> 00:34:05,460 same swamp as the Iraq war the dark 749 00:34:02,010 --> 00:34:09,270 actors are the same dark actors but it's 750 00:34:05,460 --> 00:34:11,190 also I think got another angle to it 751 00:34:09,270 --> 00:34:13,560 which is connected intimately to the 752 00:34:11,190 --> 00:34:16,560 discussion we've just had about the 753 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:21,089 integrity initiative every country needs 754 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:24,570 a security service to keep us safe it 755 00:34:21,089 --> 00:34:27,000 needs to be intelligent it needs to be 756 00:34:24,570 --> 00:34:31,020 well resourced and it needs to be 757 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:34,020 democratically accountable and Britain 758 00:34:31,020 --> 00:34:37,889 lacks at the very least the third of 759 00:34:34,020 --> 00:34:43,200 those and arguably all three yet 760 00:34:37,889 --> 00:34:46,619 and so we'll be campaigning in this film 761 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:51,480 for the reopening of the David Kelly 762 00:34:46,619 --> 00:34:56,240 inquiry the unsealing of the 70 year 763 00:34:51,480 --> 00:35:00,320 sealed files a new Kelley inquiry 764 00:34:56,240 --> 00:35:04,849 preferably as part of a second choker 765 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:06,960 inquiry Tony Blair likes second votes 766 00:35:04,849 --> 00:35:09,589 him and oust are Campbell are 767 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:11,700 campaigning hard for a second referendum 768 00:35:09,589 --> 00:35:14,520 let's have a second 769 00:35:11,700 --> 00:35:17,570 Chuco inquiry under Prime Minister 770 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:23,840 Jeremy Corbyn why don't we there's some 771 00:35:17,570 --> 00:35:26,090 thing I don't want to say that or what 772 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:29,200 will he be the Prime Minister yeah okay 773 00:35:26,090 --> 00:35:34,340 I thought you were telling us to stop 774 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:41,180 alright alright okay yeah well that's 775 00:35:34,340 --> 00:35:45,830 yeah yeah well that's all we've got time 776 00:35:41,180 --> 00:35:48,470 for you can review now all 25 of the 777 00:35:45,830 --> 00:35:50,030 additions of topple galloway mrs. 778 00:35:48,470 --> 00:35:55,370 Galloway would like you to vote on your 779 00:35:50,030 --> 00:35:58,040 favorite outfit that we wore in the 25 780 00:35:55,370 --> 00:36:00,080 episodes I know which one I'm going or 781 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:03,080 in the case of Steve's definitely last 782 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:05,510 week's I didn't remember well yesterday 783 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:07,700 alone last week that I'm sure was 784 00:36:05,510 --> 00:36:11,000 delightful predictions finally SDS 785 00:36:07,700 --> 00:36:16,010 what's your principal prediction or 786 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:18,140 predictions for 2019 my prediction is 787 00:36:16,010 --> 00:36:20,330 that there will be a general election 788 00:36:18,140 --> 00:36:22,190 because I believe that Surrey's maize 789 00:36:20,330 --> 00:36:25,760 breaks that deal will end up falling 790 00:36:22,190 --> 00:36:28,640 apart I don't think she will satisfy the 791 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,990 DUP or her objectives in their own party 792 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:36,650 so I think there will be a general 793 00:36:29,990 --> 00:36:39,050 election I'm still not I don't I don't 794 00:36:36,650 --> 00:36:41,120 think labor will get in I don't think 795 00:36:39,050 --> 00:36:44,060 it's gonna happen I cannot see I think 796 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:46,850 we are in an age where there is too much 797 00:36:44,060 --> 00:36:48,800 cognitive dissonance in this country and 798 00:36:46,850 --> 00:36:50,810 I think that shows if he was going to 799 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:54,860 get in it would have been 2017 because 800 00:36:50,810 --> 00:36:58,610 he was riding on a wave of support from 801 00:36:54,860 --> 00:37:00,860 groups like momentum and people from 802 00:36:58,610 --> 00:37:04,250 within his own party and I think that 803 00:37:00,860 --> 00:37:06,020 wave has now hit it some trough as it 804 00:37:04,250 --> 00:37:07,880 were and I sadly don't think he'll get 805 00:37:06,020 --> 00:37:10,130 in but that is my prediction 806 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:13,040 I hope I'm proved wrong because for all 807 00:37:10,130 --> 00:37:15,530 my sent anarchist sensibilities and 808 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:17,000 however much I don't don't always 809 00:37:15,530 --> 00:37:18,800 support labour of course I'm not 810 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,900 delusional to the fact that we far 811 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:24,110 better to have low labour government and 812 00:37:20,900 --> 00:37:26,480 it would save lives I just don't I can't 813 00:37:24,110 --> 00:37:30,560 see it happening I think it would be a 814 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:32,570 journal election on the 31st of January 815 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:34,550 I think Jeremy Corbyn will be returned 816 00:37:32,570 --> 00:37:37,520 as Prime Minister Britain as the head of 817 00:37:34,550 --> 00:37:42,080 a minority government bit like Hal 818 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:45,260 Wilson in the winter of 1974 when he 819 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:47,750 came back to power as the head of a 820 00:37:45,260 --> 00:37:50,720 minority administration and went back to 821 00:37:47,750 --> 00:37:52,520 the country in October and I think 822 00:37:50,720 --> 00:37:56,320 history will repeat itself 823 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:59,300 Prime Minister Jeremy Corbyn in February 824 00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:02,540 going back to the people for a proper 825 00:37:59,300 --> 00:38:04,850 majority in October these are the 826 00:38:02,540 --> 00:38:07,070 predictions of topple galloway we hope 827 00:38:04,850 --> 00:38:10,420 you've enjoyed watching us by the way 828 00:38:07,070 --> 00:38:13,910 Steve I see that the canary are 829 00:38:10,420 --> 00:38:16,880 appealing for funds yes is there a 830 00:38:13,910 --> 00:38:19,790 crisis what is it canary crisis no no no 831 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:22,610 canary crisis we're quite um as we were 832 00:38:19,790 --> 00:38:25,430 saying off-camera our model is such as 833 00:38:22,610 --> 00:38:27,590 self-sufficient as we always proclaim we 834 00:38:25,430 --> 00:38:29,540 don't have any shareholders we haven't 835 00:38:27,590 --> 00:38:31,280 got any debts we don't know that's a key 836 00:38:29,540 --> 00:38:33,650 point not having any debt yeah yeah yeah 837 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:36,500 yeah we we oh no need nothing apart from 838 00:38:33,650 --> 00:38:38,450 the people we write for of course so 839 00:38:36,500 --> 00:38:41,060 we've got no our business model is ice 840 00:38:38,450 --> 00:38:42,470 safe because literally it's what's Pina 841 00:38:41,060 --> 00:38:45,080 you can't go Bosh because you don't have 842 00:38:42,470 --> 00:38:47,300 any beds no we might run out of cash to 843 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:49,550 be the writers even that might happen 844 00:38:47,300 --> 00:38:52,160 because we because naturally the way our 845 00:38:49,550 --> 00:38:53,990 model works the we do generate 846 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,400 advertising revenues they totally open 847 00:38:53,990 --> 00:38:57,170 about and that's depending on how many 848 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,970 articles we put out more articles we 849 00:38:57,170 --> 00:39:00,530 write the more advertising revenue we 850 00:38:58,970 --> 00:39:03,380 get and we have a core membership base 851 00:39:00,530 --> 00:39:04,820 of several thousand people who donate 852 00:39:03,380 --> 00:39:06,770 every month as well so but what we're 853 00:39:04,820 --> 00:39:08,660 looking for because they're just they 854 00:39:06,770 --> 00:39:10,730 fund it move my podcast which I'm doing 855 00:39:08,660 --> 00:39:12,830 every week but they want they want to 856 00:39:10,730 --> 00:39:15,800 expand more on the media side of things 857 00:39:12,830 --> 00:39:17,920 and we should yeah or video maybe yeah 858 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:21,170 yeah then they're looking to do more 859 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:22,490 films stuff and also he wants to do more 860 00:39:21,170 --> 00:39:23,690 investigative work because it's 861 00:39:22,490 --> 00:39:25,880 something that we haven't done much of 862 00:39:23,690 --> 00:39:27,530 up until this point but yet there's 863 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:30,290 several of us there who are actually 864 00:39:27,530 --> 00:39:32,570 invested good journalism other outlets 865 00:39:30,290 --> 00:39:34,550 we have done that past me included so we 866 00:39:32,570 --> 00:39:37,520 want funding to dig deeper into what's 867 00:39:34,550 --> 00:39:40,100 going on in this country to give our 868 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,829 voice on other platforms and to expand 869 00:39:40,100 --> 00:39:42,749 the canaries 870 00:39:40,829 --> 00:39:44,880 operation essentially because at the 871 00:39:42,749 --> 00:39:46,529 minutes we have the mainstream presses 872 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,640 we've just discussed and falling apart 873 00:39:46,529 --> 00:39:49,410 around our ears 874 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:51,630 I mean yet there still is dogmatic and 875 00:39:49,410 --> 00:39:53,549 arrogant as ever so and done by well 876 00:39:51,630 --> 00:39:57,119 this is Yuri era this is your 877 00:39:53,549 --> 00:39:57,869 journalistic era so how much your people 878 00:39:57,119 --> 00:39:59,519 pay per month 879 00:39:57,869 --> 00:40:01,049 it varies this whatever people wants to 880 00:39:59,519 --> 00:40:02,849 donate they can donate the price of a 881 00:40:01,049 --> 00:40:05,069 cup of coffee which depending on where 882 00:40:02,849 --> 00:40:07,979 you live in London's are about 250 or 10 883 00:40:05,069 --> 00:40:09,779 pounds and all up to anything several 884 00:40:07,979 --> 00:40:12,809 people donate said well put me down for 885 00:40:09,779 --> 00:40:14,700 a 10 pound a month thank you and that's 886 00:40:12,809 --> 00:40:17,339 the first I hope the other viewers will 887 00:40:14,700 --> 00:40:20,519 do the same yeah 10 pound a month to the 888 00:40:17,339 --> 00:40:23,579 canary because you need a canary in the 889 00:40:20,519 --> 00:40:25,680 mine because if you don't it might be 890 00:40:23,579 --> 00:40:27,359 you that keels over it's been marvelous 891 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:30,119 it has been marvelous it's been a 892 00:40:27,359 --> 00:40:31,950 marvelous 2018 it's been and I have to 893 00:40:30,119 --> 00:40:36,059 say just on the roads been privileged to 894 00:40:31,950 --> 00:40:38,130 work I wanna say my late father would be 895 00:40:36,059 --> 00:40:39,539 dancing in his grave knowing that I get 896 00:40:38,130 --> 00:40:41,130 sick George Galloway every way because 897 00:40:39,539 --> 00:40:43,349 he was a massive fan of yours and also 898 00:40:41,130 --> 00:40:45,059 I've got to make get got to meet Ken 899 00:40:43,349 --> 00:40:46,619 Livingstone as well through this process 900 00:40:45,059 --> 00:40:48,719 and my dad would be equally as happy 901 00:40:46,619 --> 00:40:50,130 with that and your appearing with me in 902 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:54,569 Ken's stead 903 00:40:50,130 --> 00:40:58,140 well Neath in the Gwyn Hall on the 26th 904 00:40:54,569 --> 00:41:00,900 of January 5 live show yeah sure yeah 905 00:40:58,140 --> 00:41:03,420 and if it goes well there'll be more of 906 00:41:00,900 --> 00:41:05,699 those thanks very much for being with us 907 00:41:03,420 --> 00:41:07,589 I'm George Galloway I'm Steve topple 908 00:41:05,699 --> 00:41:09,709 wishing you the compliments of the 909 00:41:07,589 --> 00:41:09,709 season 910 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:16,539 [Music]