1 00:00:01,390 --> 00:00:08,400 [Music] 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:10,500 I'm George Galloway I am Steve topple 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:13,349 together we are topple Galloway 4 00:00:10,500 --> 00:00:16,609 appearing live in Neath by the way s 5 00:00:13,349 --> 00:00:22,699 26th of January over a hundred tickets 6 00:00:16,609 --> 00:00:25,800 and still 10 days or more to go I think 7 00:00:22,699 --> 00:00:27,900 as I said in before we started filming 8 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,580 I'm hardly a star of the stage and 9 00:00:27,900 --> 00:00:32,669 screen George although will be as we 10 00:00:29,580 --> 00:00:34,230 said last week I am Jesus yes Jesus 11 00:00:32,669 --> 00:00:37,500 hasn't been in the South Wales Valley 12 00:00:34,230 --> 00:00:39,180 for some days okay anyway if you want 13 00:00:37,500 --> 00:00:42,480 tickets you can get them from the Gwynn 14 00:00:39,180 --> 00:00:44,640 hall that's gwy and Gwynn Hall if you 15 00:00:42,480 --> 00:00:46,829 want to see this double act life that's 16 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:49,079 the place to do it I'm appealing the 17 00:00:46,829 --> 00:00:51,629 next night by the way in Birmingham at 18 00:00:49,079 --> 00:00:55,050 the old Dredd theater that's Sunday the 19 00:00:51,629 --> 00:00:58,980 27th anyway we are meeting here today in 20 00:00:55,050 --> 00:01:02,010 the wake of the worst parliamentary 21 00:00:58,980 --> 00:01:05,760 defeat ever suffered by any British 22 00:01:02,010 --> 00:01:08,640 government on any matter at any time in 23 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:11,729 our history that's a red letter day by 24 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:14,310 any story yes I should also point out 25 00:01:11,729 --> 00:01:16,770 that we're meeting before the result of 26 00:01:14,310 --> 00:01:19,200 the no-confidence motion tabled by 27 00:01:16,770 --> 00:01:22,680 Jeremy Corbyn immediately after the 28 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:24,930 result last night and so we're working 29 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:27,030 on the assumption yeah that she survives 30 00:01:24,930 --> 00:01:29,220 that I think so yeah I mean all the all 31 00:01:27,030 --> 00:01:31,770 the reports up to this point which is 32 00:01:29,220 --> 00:01:33,619 around 10:00 a.m. on Wednesday the 16th 33 00:01:31,770 --> 00:01:37,500 of January all the reports indicated the 34 00:01:33,619 --> 00:01:39,570 Arg group will vote in support of the 35 00:01:37,500 --> 00:01:41,610 governments that the DP will vote in 36 00:01:39,570 --> 00:01:43,649 support of the government so something 37 00:01:41,610 --> 00:01:46,799 absurd about that let's not just gloss 38 00:01:43,649 --> 00:01:50,610 over that no more than 100 Tory MPs 39 00:01:46,799 --> 00:01:52,799 voted no confidence in treasom a to lead 40 00:01:50,610 --> 00:01:55,979 their own party but they're going to 41 00:01:52,799 --> 00:01:58,079 vote for her to lead the country and a 42 00:01:55,979 --> 00:02:00,810 hundred and eighteen of them rebelled on 43 00:01:58,079 --> 00:02:04,079 her brexit deal that she spent well over 44 00:02:00,810 --> 00:02:07,920 two years negotiating her flagship 45 00:02:04,079 --> 00:02:11,459 policy was sunk by them just last 46 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:13,620 evening but this evening they're voting 47 00:02:11,459 --> 00:02:16,110 for our two carry-ons a bit like a 48 00:02:13,620 --> 00:02:17,970 on film it every week he'd make this 49 00:02:16,110 --> 00:02:22,019 reference to where this gunman is like 50 00:02:17,970 --> 00:02:24,629 carry on the feel is not the guy by yes 51 00:02:22,019 --> 00:02:27,599 or yes carry on at your convenience if 52 00:02:24,629 --> 00:02:31,110 you remember that what do look I mean it 53 00:02:27,599 --> 00:02:35,370 is a ludicrous situation that these Tory 54 00:02:31,110 --> 00:02:37,200 MPs can somehow feel dead for some party 55 00:02:35,370 --> 00:02:40,500 loyalty morality interests as they can 56 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:42,930 vote in favor of this government when 57 00:02:40,500 --> 00:02:46,230 they just voted against the issue which 58 00:02:42,930 --> 00:02:50,190 Corbin has raised the problem with last 59 00:02:46,230 --> 00:02:51,660 night as it were I let's not hold our 60 00:02:50,190 --> 00:02:52,829 breath I think it will go in her way 61 00:02:51,660 --> 00:02:54,989 that would be interesting to see if 62 00:02:52,829 --> 00:02:56,849 there are any defectors well all it 63 00:02:54,989 --> 00:02:59,010 needs you know the margin of error is 64 00:02:56,849 --> 00:03:01,260 sourcing them that all it needs is a 65 00:02:59,010 --> 00:03:05,640 couple of taxes to go the wrong way 66 00:03:01,260 --> 00:03:07,859 around Westminster and get lost them the 67 00:03:05,640 --> 00:03:10,379 one-way system or caught up in traffic I 68 00:03:07,859 --> 00:03:12,690 mean it is actually that close there's 69 00:03:10,379 --> 00:03:15,239 also these people do support her yeah 70 00:03:12,690 --> 00:03:17,280 it's also a damning indictment though of 71 00:03:15,239 --> 00:03:20,280 their view of jeremy corbyn's Labour 72 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:22,620 Party that's in my opinion that they are 73 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:24,630 so concerned that he might actually win 74 00:03:22,620 --> 00:03:27,090 a general election they're able to push 75 00:03:24,630 --> 00:03:29,700 all their views on to resume all their 76 00:03:27,090 --> 00:03:32,760 views on the brexit deal to one sides to 77 00:03:29,700 --> 00:03:35,160 so desperately stop the prospect and 78 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:37,260 going to the polls with him yeah I think 79 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:40,319 you put it the right way it's not that 80 00:03:37,260 --> 00:03:42,090 they're desperate to avoid Jeremy Corbyn 81 00:03:40,319 --> 00:03:43,949 being the prime minister because he 82 00:03:42,090 --> 00:03:46,500 could only be the Prime Minister if he 83 00:03:43,949 --> 00:03:48,840 won the general election yeah it's the 84 00:03:46,500 --> 00:03:51,269 general election they're afraid in other 85 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:53,819 words they're afraid of their own people 86 00:03:51,269 --> 00:03:55,440 yeah which of course puts them on a par 87 00:03:53,819 --> 00:03:58,650 with quite a few governments but I was 88 00:03:55,440 --> 00:04:01,910 on a talk sport with Alan Brazil this 89 00:03:58,650 --> 00:04:06,540 morning talking about it Alan of course 90 00:04:01,910 --> 00:04:10,169 football icon it's a he was a player for 91 00:04:06,540 --> 00:04:12,180 it was his best days but he also played 92 00:04:10,169 --> 00:04:16,400 at Celtic Manchester United Tottenham 93 00:04:12,180 --> 00:04:19,949 Hotspur a very big football icon and 94 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:21,959 moreover you know undoubtedly the best 95 00:04:19,949 --> 00:04:23,820 sports broadcaster in the 96 00:04:21,959 --> 00:04:26,520 english-speaking world has been there 18 97 00:04:23,820 --> 00:04:27,330 years so I really like Alan but he's 98 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,789 pale 99 00:04:27,330 --> 00:04:32,220 when I put it to him that the bookmakers 100 00:04:29,789 --> 00:04:34,740 were clear anyway that if there was a 101 00:04:32,220 --> 00:04:37,680 general election Jeremy Corbyn would be 102 00:04:34,740 --> 00:04:40,319 the Prime Minister his payoff line was 103 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:43,680 well I'm heading to easyJet to get out 104 00:04:40,319 --> 00:04:46,740 of here compare my estimations but what 105 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:49,199 are actually is saying is they don't 106 00:04:46,740 --> 00:04:52,020 want to give the British people the 107 00:04:49,199 --> 00:04:55,560 chance to pick a government that can 108 00:04:52,020 --> 00:04:58,319 undo this Gordian knot that is now 109 00:04:55,560 --> 00:05:01,620 around our throat that that's not to mix 110 00:04:58,319 --> 00:05:05,180 too many metaphors so I mean let me take 111 00:05:01,620 --> 00:05:07,860 you back to this point it is 112 00:05:05,180 --> 00:05:10,889 unbelievably been glossed over in the 113 00:05:07,860 --> 00:05:14,460 mass media that as as a matter of 114 00:05:10,889 --> 00:05:17,009 democratic principle in any other time 115 00:05:14,460 --> 00:05:19,740 in any other government in any other 116 00:05:17,009 --> 00:05:22,770 country the Prime Minister would already 117 00:05:19,740 --> 00:05:25,080 have tendered her resignation and it's 118 00:05:22,770 --> 00:05:29,509 just been accepted that while she can 119 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:32,789 carry on at your convenience if you have 120 00:05:29,509 --> 00:05:35,219 effectively cleared every other domestic 121 00:05:32,789 --> 00:05:37,919 matter off the table spent more than two 122 00:05:35,219 --> 00:05:42,150 years on a flagship policy and it gets 123 00:05:37,919 --> 00:05:45,180 sunk all guns blazing it goes down with 124 00:05:42,150 --> 00:05:48,419 all hands the captain of the ship takes 125 00:05:45,180 --> 00:05:50,759 responsibility it's astounding that most 126 00:05:48,419 --> 00:05:52,289 of the mainstream journalists have just 127 00:05:50,759 --> 00:05:55,110 glossed over that point but you were 128 00:05:52,289 --> 00:05:58,770 telling me something about someone who 129 00:05:55,110 --> 00:06:01,680 might be a weather vane in this on my 130 00:05:58,770 --> 00:06:05,069 very own talk radio the small yes indeed 131 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:08,190 is it fascinating tweet from Miss Julia 132 00:06:05,069 --> 00:06:11,129 Hartley Brewer who I'm not a was 133 00:06:08,190 --> 00:06:15,659 Brutus we color well in the building 134 00:06:11,129 --> 00:06:18,889 here over a really stage gossip I'm not 135 00:06:15,659 --> 00:06:22,080 father politics and I mean I know her 136 00:06:18,889 --> 00:06:24,839 vaguely well hadn't been on a show quite 137 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:27,270 a few times and she's not this all devil 138 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:29,009 people make out she is to be fair to her 139 00:06:27,270 --> 00:06:31,289 um how about shaming a fascinating treat 140 00:06:29,009 --> 00:06:33,089 last I seen she called for a general 141 00:06:31,289 --> 00:06:34,770 election obviously on the basis that she 142 00:06:33,089 --> 00:06:37,430 thinks the Conservative Party will win 143 00:06:34,770 --> 00:06:39,200 but purely because 144 00:06:37,430 --> 00:06:41,930 what you just stated that the fact that 145 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:44,210 Theresa mace made such an almighty mess 146 00:06:41,930 --> 00:06:47,000 of this process that the only correct 147 00:06:44,210 --> 00:06:50,390 way forward in any any functioning 148 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:52,730 democracy which we don't have then way 149 00:06:50,390 --> 00:06:55,490 forward would be to put it to the public 150 00:06:52,730 --> 00:06:58,640 and have a new leader installed to carry 151 00:06:55,490 --> 00:07:00,770 on the process but I mean it's a damning 152 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:03,440 indictment Georgia of the state of 153 00:07:00,770 --> 00:07:05,690 firstly democracy in this country that's 154 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:07,250 we we're not at that point all we should 155 00:07:05,690 --> 00:07:09,350 have been at that point Munson yeah 156 00:07:07,250 --> 00:07:11,660 anyway there is another option Steve 157 00:07:09,350 --> 00:07:15,080 it's not as good and it doesn't solve 158 00:07:11,660 --> 00:07:18,470 the problem in the same way but the 159 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:20,330 Tories could um could get rid of treasom 160 00:07:18,470 --> 00:07:24,560 in and put someone else up as their 161 00:07:20,330 --> 00:07:28,820 leader now again it's being said the on 162 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:31,490 paper that cannot happen because the ERG 163 00:07:28,820 --> 00:07:33,680 perhaps shot their bolt earlier in 164 00:07:31,490 --> 00:07:37,190 December already by having one already 165 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:40,160 making our own paper invulnerable until 166 00:07:37,190 --> 00:07:42,890 next December has to be 12 months yeah 167 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:45,380 but as Bill Shankly the famous Liverpool 168 00:07:42,890 --> 00:07:47,930 Football Club manager once said when a 169 00:07:45,380 --> 00:07:50,120 journalist put to him on paper you 170 00:07:47,930 --> 00:07:52,160 should beat this team and he said yes 171 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:56,120 but footballs not played on paper it's 172 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:58,160 played on grass and in the old days I 173 00:07:56,120 --> 00:08:01,400 was just writing about this in my rt.com 174 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:04,250 column today in the old days there was 175 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:06,890 nothing so vulgar as votes or elections 176 00:08:04,250 --> 00:08:09,740 in the Conservative Party in my own 177 00:08:06,890 --> 00:08:14,120 lifetime the leader of the Conservative 178 00:08:09,740 --> 00:08:17,030 Party emerged and they emerged from what 179 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:19,630 was called the magic circle of Tory 180 00:08:17,030 --> 00:08:27,080 Grandy's and those days they had real 181 00:08:19,630 --> 00:08:31,570 Grandy's or as I would say a bunch of 182 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:33,440 subscribers but the Grandy's would 183 00:08:31,570 --> 00:08:35,720 effectively get together in a 184 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:38,240 smoke-filled room and they'd agree 185 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:42,200 amongst themselves who was a sound 186 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:44,770 enough chap to go to the palace and they 187 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:48,590 would then effectively say to the Queen 188 00:08:44,770 --> 00:08:50,960 we we think you should pick this one and 189 00:08:48,590 --> 00:08:53,930 quite often that was one 190 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:55,460 with much less of a claim than the 191 00:08:53,930 --> 00:08:57,560 alternatives I don't want to take you 192 00:08:55,460 --> 00:09:02,440 too far back in history but when Hal 193 00:08:57,560 --> 00:09:06,560 Macmillan retired Rab Butler re B Butler 194 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:10,040 was the obvious standout and he thought 195 00:09:06,560 --> 00:09:12,980 it was shoo-in for the leadership but 196 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:15,350 that Magic Circle didn't think he was 197 00:09:12,980 --> 00:09:19,160 quite sound enough on one or two points 198 00:09:15,350 --> 00:09:21,800 and so they recommended someone who was 199 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:25,010 in the House of Lords the earl of human 200 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:26,930 the 16th earl of humours Harold Wilson 201 00:09:25,010 --> 00:09:29,390 always referred to him who then 202 00:09:26,930 --> 00:09:31,850 renounced his peerage and became Sir 203 00:09:29,390 --> 00:09:33,890 Alec douglas-home and became the Prime 204 00:09:31,850 --> 00:09:37,670 Minister of Britain or without a vote 205 00:09:33,890 --> 00:09:40,100 being cast yes so these Grandy's are not 206 00:09:37,670 --> 00:09:42,800 what they were the men in grey suits are 207 00:09:40,100 --> 00:09:45,560 no men and women and few of them were 208 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:47,899 gray suits I saw one in a pink suit 209 00:09:45,560 --> 00:09:49,940 sitting behind Kenneth Clark yes the 210 00:09:47,899 --> 00:09:53,060 times the caressed by Coco Vice a kind 211 00:09:49,940 --> 00:09:55,160 of cloud didn't have a coronary yes so 212 00:09:53,060 --> 00:09:57,680 they're not what they were but they must 213 00:09:55,160 --> 00:10:00,470 still exist can I just say they don't go 214 00:09:57,680 --> 00:10:02,930 in and say to Teresa may look oh girl 215 00:10:00,470 --> 00:10:04,910 you've you've done your best but you 216 00:10:02,930 --> 00:10:07,160 really can't continue that's a 217 00:10:04,910 --> 00:10:09,620 fascinating point yes and exactly you 218 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:11,839 would think that as you say there are no 219 00:10:09,620 --> 00:10:15,170 Grande's left it's made up of ex 220 00:10:11,839 --> 00:10:17,630 corporate bankers and lawyers and PR 221 00:10:15,170 --> 00:10:19,820 people and Oxbridge students now the 222 00:10:17,630 --> 00:10:23,839 Conservative Party the service of the 223 00:10:19,820 --> 00:10:25,220 hereditary vein of the way the 224 00:10:23,839 --> 00:10:26,240 Conservative Party functions are things 225 00:10:25,220 --> 00:10:30,230 this thing all but that's a fascinating 226 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:32,630 point because they still the 19 to 22 227 00:10:30,230 --> 00:10:35,089 committee still holds power and you 228 00:10:32,630 --> 00:10:36,320 would think I voted against those and 229 00:10:35,089 --> 00:10:39,230 you would think that behind the scenes 230 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:40,820 pressure could be applied to her to have 231 00:10:39,230 --> 00:10:42,709 to go I quit 232 00:10:40,820 --> 00:10:45,320 whether she wants to or not well to 233 00:10:42,709 --> 00:10:47,810 continue so Geoffrey House metaphor when 234 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:51,079 he devastatingly effectively began the 235 00:10:47,810 --> 00:10:53,450 breaking down and overthrow of Margaret 236 00:10:51,079 --> 00:10:56,270 Thatcher he said you know when the 237 00:10:53,450 --> 00:10:59,630 captain of the team is sending people 238 00:10:56,270 --> 00:11:02,779 out to bat having broken the bat and the 239 00:10:59,630 --> 00:11:04,819 wickets and the bills before she goes to 240 00:11:02,779 --> 00:11:07,399 bat cricket 241 00:11:04,819 --> 00:11:09,439 impossible in those days the tourists 242 00:11:07,399 --> 00:11:12,769 liked cricket in metaphors even more 243 00:11:09,439 --> 00:11:15,519 than they do now but the point is how 244 00:11:12,769 --> 00:11:18,410 can she now go back with any credibility 245 00:11:15,519 --> 00:11:22,160 to the European Union and say right now 246 00:11:18,410 --> 00:11:25,639 let's begin again if when the gap is 247 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:28,459 such that what could the EU offer rather 248 00:11:25,639 --> 00:11:32,079 could close such a gap yeah I mean I 249 00:11:28,459 --> 00:11:35,779 don't know giving giving her a crown 250 00:11:32,079 --> 00:11:38,479 Charlemagne's hereditary Holy Roman 251 00:11:35,779 --> 00:11:42,229 Empire in what what could they offer 252 00:11:38,479 --> 00:11:45,049 Britain now or a deal that has been so 253 00:11:42,229 --> 00:11:46,309 completely devastated absolutely I mean 254 00:11:45,049 --> 00:11:49,220 the thing is the sort of noise is off 255 00:11:46,309 --> 00:11:50,629 coming from the EU last night in 256 00:11:49,220 --> 00:11:52,609 reaction to the vote was that the 257 00:11:50,629 --> 00:11:54,949 negotiations will not be reopened that 258 00:11:52,609 --> 00:11:59,749 they're not they're not willing to budge 259 00:11:54,949 --> 00:12:02,029 very far as it were and it it's like it 260 00:11:59,749 --> 00:12:06,109 seems impossible situation does it is 261 00:12:02,029 --> 00:12:07,970 god yeah it can't be unraveled in any 262 00:12:06,109 --> 00:12:10,879 way other than a general election that 263 00:12:07,970 --> 00:12:14,119 is why the general election demand has 264 00:12:10,879 --> 00:12:17,569 to remain front and foremost not a 265 00:12:14,119 --> 00:12:21,229 diversion by Labour into the Waitrose 266 00:12:17,569 --> 00:12:23,629 camp for a second referendum and so on 267 00:12:21,229 --> 00:12:28,699 only a general election can break this 268 00:12:23,629 --> 00:12:30,559 logjam but if the Tories went to Mrs May 269 00:12:28,699 --> 00:12:33,139 and said your time's up 270 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:37,119 at least they would then have an 271 00:12:33,139 --> 00:12:40,159 incentive an excuse an explanation for 272 00:12:37,119 --> 00:12:44,029 then bringing forward legislation to 273 00:12:40,159 --> 00:12:47,269 pause article 52 give some time for a 274 00:12:44,029 --> 00:12:50,239 new Tory leader to be chosen and to get 275 00:12:47,269 --> 00:12:52,429 to know the lie of the land the lie of 276 00:12:50,239 --> 00:12:54,799 the continental land to meet the 277 00:12:52,429 --> 00:12:58,149 European leaders and so on it would take 278 00:12:54,799 --> 00:13:00,859 the immediate crisis off the table so 279 00:12:58,149 --> 00:13:04,970 why don't they do that it's treason me 280 00:13:00,859 --> 00:13:07,999 such a whizzing leader that that they're 281 00:13:04,970 --> 00:13:09,679 ready to die on a hill for did you eat 282 00:13:07,999 --> 00:13:11,600 do you think that is what's going to 283 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:13,279 happen because I'm going I was racking 284 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,110 my brains watching it all unfold last 285 00:13:13,279 --> 00:13:15,760 night I've been 286 00:13:14,110 --> 00:13:18,240 librarians on the way here this morning 287 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:22,360 to try and see what the outcome of this 288 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:24,220 debacle is and I got was not gonna win 289 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:28,300 no confidence vote it's not gonna happen 290 00:13:24,220 --> 00:13:29,920 so therefore any standard mechanism to 291 00:13:28,300 --> 00:13:31,779 force a general election will not happen 292 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:34,230 so really the only movement is going to 293 00:13:31,779 --> 00:13:37,060 come from within the Conservative Party 294 00:13:34,230 --> 00:13:41,560 itself well if I was them Steve this is 295 00:13:37,060 --> 00:13:45,750 what I would do I would I'd get a new 296 00:13:41,560 --> 00:13:50,470 leader I'd press a pause on article 50 I 297 00:13:45,750 --> 00:13:53,230 try and renegotiate with the EU and if I 298 00:13:50,470 --> 00:13:55,089 got nowhere specific as a matter of fact 299 00:13:53,230 --> 00:13:57,010 I think they probably would get some 300 00:13:55,089 --> 00:14:01,570 concessions with a new president I think 301 00:13:57,010 --> 00:14:06,240 so and then I'd say I'm now going to 302 00:14:01,570 --> 00:14:09,600 hold the general election to support my 303 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:13,810 policy my deal with the European Union 304 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:15,820 such as it might be and with a new prime 305 00:14:13,810 --> 00:14:18,640 minister they'd undoubtedly have a 306 00:14:15,820 --> 00:14:21,279 better chance than they would by going 307 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:23,019 into an election with treasom a although 308 00:14:21,279 --> 00:14:25,449 she has already declared she will not 309 00:14:23,019 --> 00:14:29,589 fight another election talk about a lame 310 00:14:25,449 --> 00:14:31,390 duck so if I were in the Tory Party 311 00:14:29,589 --> 00:14:33,820 that's what I'd be arguing today in the 312 00:14:31,390 --> 00:14:36,579 Tea Room and there will be whispers of 313 00:14:33,820 --> 00:14:39,339 sedition there must be because this 314 00:14:36,579 --> 00:14:41,050 conundrum can only be broken in one of 315 00:14:39,339 --> 00:14:42,910 two ways either you hold the general 316 00:14:41,050 --> 00:14:46,529 election with the risk that your whole 317 00:14:42,910 --> 00:14:49,720 party is broken and put out of power and 318 00:14:46,529 --> 00:14:52,300 Jeremy Corbyn becomes Prime Minister of 319 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:54,459 Britain or we get rid of treasom a he's 320 00:14:52,300 --> 00:14:56,829 no she's no exactly winston churchill 321 00:14:54,459 --> 00:15:00,880 and she's not exactly Margaret Thatcher 322 00:14:56,829 --> 00:15:04,000 I mean she is the lamest of ducks who 323 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:05,860 has made a series of blunders that have 324 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:09,220 brought us to this place again in my 325 00:15:05,860 --> 00:15:11,800 piece of Smalling I Adam Bray those on 326 00:15:09,220 --> 00:15:13,779 the first morning she should have on the 327 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:16,829 first day that she became leader she 328 00:15:13,779 --> 00:15:19,660 should have reached out to Corbin and 329 00:15:16,829 --> 00:15:23,050 attempted to involve him in the 330 00:15:19,660 --> 00:15:25,699 negotiation and thus face the EU were 331 00:15:23,050 --> 00:15:29,209 the United British front 332 00:15:25,699 --> 00:15:32,449 she didn't do that instead she spent the 333 00:15:29,209 --> 00:15:35,449 next period painting Corbin as an agent 334 00:15:32,449 --> 00:15:37,879 of the Kremlin or the IRA or Hezbollah 335 00:15:35,449 --> 00:15:40,699 or whatever else in fact been all of 336 00:15:37,879 --> 00:15:44,059 those lesson or so Czechoslovakia you 337 00:15:40,699 --> 00:15:45,559 know no she said last night after the 338 00:15:44,059 --> 00:15:48,350 vote she was going to reach out to 339 00:15:45,559 --> 00:15:50,329 senior parliamentarians except the 340 00:15:48,350 --> 00:15:51,949 leader of the Opposition she's she 341 00:15:50,329 --> 00:15:54,019 doesn't regard the leader of the 342 00:15:51,949 --> 00:15:56,899 Opposition is senior you know from rich 343 00:15:54,019 --> 00:15:59,600 old man night Ron man Frank field yes 344 00:15:56,899 --> 00:16:02,869 the kind of senior parliamentarian she 345 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:06,220 has in mind so that was the first 346 00:16:02,869 --> 00:16:09,350 blunder a second blunder whilst 347 00:16:06,220 --> 00:16:12,410 strolling in her later hosen on her 348 00:16:09,350 --> 00:16:15,439 Bavarian walking holiday the idea 349 00:16:12,410 --> 00:16:18,919 occurred to her presumably having 350 00:16:15,439 --> 00:16:20,809 imbibed her own propaganda that she 351 00:16:18,919 --> 00:16:24,079 could call a new general election and 352 00:16:20,809 --> 00:16:26,809 completely destroy this Russian stooge 353 00:16:24,079 --> 00:16:28,999 Jeremy Corbyn so she called an election 354 00:16:26,809 --> 00:16:32,239 she didn't need to have and threw away 355 00:16:28,999 --> 00:16:34,850 the majority she then enjoyed so leave 356 00:16:32,239 --> 00:16:37,730 it thus leaving her dependent on the 357 00:16:34,850 --> 00:16:40,549 tassels of the orange sashes of the 358 00:16:37,730 --> 00:16:43,579 democratic unionists and then you're 359 00:16:40,549 --> 00:16:45,980 trying to negotiate a brexit where the 360 00:16:43,579 --> 00:16:48,259 Northern Irish border becomes the border 361 00:16:45,980 --> 00:16:50,869 between Britain and the EU but you're 362 00:16:48,259 --> 00:16:53,600 already legally bound for that not to be 363 00:16:50,869 --> 00:16:56,089 a border at all I mean this is the 364 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:58,459 classic irresistible force and an 365 00:16:56,089 --> 00:17:01,669 immovable object these two things cannot 366 00:16:58,459 --> 00:17:05,000 be squared she would like to ditch 367 00:17:01,669 --> 00:17:07,039 Northern Ireland and I so wish she would 368 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:09,620 turn and then Northern Ireland could 369 00:17:07,039 --> 00:17:13,159 reunite with Ireland but she cannot 370 00:17:09,620 --> 00:17:17,179 because she needs the ten DUP votes so 371 00:17:13,159 --> 00:17:20,539 that was the second blunder but the 372 00:17:17,179 --> 00:17:24,380 third blunder was to go into may bot 373 00:17:20,539 --> 00:17:28,039 mode and just endlessly repeat the same 374 00:17:24,380 --> 00:17:30,649 mantras both over there and here make no 375 00:17:28,039 --> 00:17:33,799 preparation for an audio break set so 376 00:17:30,649 --> 00:17:36,919 the EU knew that there was never gonna 377 00:17:33,799 --> 00:17:38,840 be a No Deal brexit and therefore had no 378 00:17:36,919 --> 00:17:42,200 need to offer you anything to up 379 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:44,659 I did know I mean a leader who can 380 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:47,630 squeeze that many blunders of that 381 00:17:44,659 --> 00:17:50,090 dimension into such a short period of 382 00:17:47,630 --> 00:17:52,789 time why would you want to die on a hill 383 00:17:50,090 --> 00:17:56,150 for her no absolutely and I think if 384 00:17:52,789 --> 00:17:57,830 point five if you like in that which I 385 00:17:56,150 --> 00:18:00,350 noticed last night and I think is being 386 00:17:57,830 --> 00:18:02,539 underpaid by the press will not mention 387 00:18:00,350 --> 00:18:04,940 by the press really at all it's that she 388 00:18:02,539 --> 00:18:07,250 is now surrounded herself as well with 389 00:18:04,940 --> 00:18:09,830 the cabinet of absolute buffoons because 390 00:18:07,250 --> 00:18:11,419 she's run out of options with regards to 391 00:18:09,830 --> 00:18:13,279 who she couldn't appoint as ministers 392 00:18:11,419 --> 00:18:15,559 now after so many we don't know maybe 393 00:18:13,279 --> 00:18:18,649 how do we know I've lost count of how 394 00:18:15,559 --> 00:18:20,539 many the brexit secretary I couldn't 395 00:18:18,649 --> 00:18:23,090 count them and we're political juniors I 396 00:18:20,539 --> 00:18:25,789 have no idea she surrounded herself by 397 00:18:23,090 --> 00:18:27,950 70 buffoons and other lame ducks if you 398 00:18:25,789 --> 00:18:30,529 like it's also perfect storm there's a 399 00:18:27,950 --> 00:18:33,890 fascinating that three minute segment on 400 00:18:30,529 --> 00:18:37,010 politics live last night where Andrew 401 00:18:33,890 --> 00:18:38,450 Neal was interviewing Matt Hancock who's 402 00:18:37,010 --> 00:18:40,460 now the health secretary that's a good 403 00:18:38,450 --> 00:18:42,020 interview it was brilliant well this is 404 00:18:40,460 --> 00:18:45,679 the pond with Andrew Neal he's extremely 405 00:18:42,020 --> 00:18:46,880 good at what he does he's just I like 406 00:18:45,679 --> 00:18:53,149 him but that's another matter 407 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:55,190 I set off air in his interview in that 408 00:18:53,149 --> 00:18:57,679 pankot health secretary and the news 409 00:18:55,190 --> 00:19:00,919 broke that the EU was not willing to 410 00:18:57,679 --> 00:19:03,320 open area negotiations and exposed that 411 00:19:00,919 --> 00:19:05,990 may has surrounded herself with little 412 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:07,850 mini knee may BOTS who if they have to 413 00:19:05,990 --> 00:19:09,890 go off-script all that or something 414 00:19:07,850 --> 00:19:11,960 spontaneous happens they literally fall 415 00:19:09,890 --> 00:19:14,360 apart because he literally collapsed 416 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:16,130 under the weight of Andrew Neal's 417 00:19:14,360 --> 00:19:18,919 interviewing because something came up 418 00:19:16,130 --> 00:19:20,750 which he was unexpected and he had no 419 00:19:18,919 --> 00:19:22,700 answer to you literally watched him 420 00:19:20,750 --> 00:19:24,890 crumble and there was he kept repeating 421 00:19:22,700 --> 00:19:26,750 the same he kept it was crisis he kept 422 00:19:24,890 --> 00:19:29,480 repeating the same line which had no 423 00:19:26,750 --> 00:19:32,070 relevance was going off it wasn't and I 424 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:35,130 think that's I am are robot yeah 425 00:19:32,070 --> 00:19:36,900 but and I think that's also crucial to 426 00:19:35,130 --> 00:19:40,020 this she has got a cabinet of absolute 427 00:19:36,900 --> 00:19:41,510 dullards and and that's another there's 428 00:19:40,020 --> 00:19:44,100 a point in that labor should be sort of 429 00:19:41,510 --> 00:19:46,140 accentuating oh she's friend by absolute 430 00:19:44,100 --> 00:19:49,560 buffet yes because Ana normal again 431 00:19:46,140 --> 00:19:51,270 animals say we look back at when your 432 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:53,130 father was active in politics 433 00:19:51,270 --> 00:19:56,280 Halla Wilson was the prime minister 434 00:19:53,130 --> 00:19:58,920 there was ten members of his cabinet who 435 00:19:56,280 --> 00:20:02,280 could take over as prime minister in the 436 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:05,670 afternoon and most of them wanted to you 437 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:09,450 know Jenkins then crossed one Crossman 438 00:20:05,670 --> 00:20:11,400 castle Callaghan I mean I could go on 439 00:20:09,450 --> 00:20:14,550 leave me there were about 10 yeah in 440 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:16,320 Wilson's cabinet in this cabinet no one 441 00:20:14,550 --> 00:20:20,760 is sir please the only alternative 442 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:25,100 leaders are ex cabinet yep so um you 443 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:25,100 know Andrea led some is the best again 444 00:20:25,430 --> 00:20:31,650 so what we're witnessing and it's 445 00:20:29,220 --> 00:20:33,740 abundantly clear as we talk is the 446 00:20:31,650 --> 00:20:37,070 complete degeneration of the 447 00:20:33,740 --> 00:20:42,980 Conservative Party once a Rolls Royce 448 00:20:37,070 --> 00:20:47,130 now a Skoda from the 1980s low-rent 449 00:20:42,980 --> 00:20:48,900 low-grade unable to cope with the 450 00:20:47,130 --> 00:20:51,620 demands that are on it 451 00:20:48,900 --> 00:20:55,140 yeah in which case it is a democratic 452 00:20:51,620 --> 00:20:59,220 outrage that there is not now 453 00:20:55,140 --> 00:21:01,800 irresistible force in the country for a 454 00:20:59,220 --> 00:21:04,220 new general election which the very 455 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:07,470 least changes the arithmetic doesn't 456 00:21:04,220 --> 00:21:10,320 necessarily improve the quality of your 457 00:21:07,470 --> 00:21:14,690 government but it changes the arithmetic 458 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:19,200 and that's what's screaming out now for 459 00:21:14,690 --> 00:21:20,250 a change but let's turn to jeremy 460 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:23,040 corbyn's dilemma 461 00:21:20,250 --> 00:21:25,020 I think he's played a blinder by the way 462 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:27,630 in terms of the cards that were 463 00:21:25,020 --> 00:21:31,890 available to him and surrounded as he is 464 00:21:27,630 --> 00:21:35,640 by backstabbers and traitors he has in 465 00:21:31,890 --> 00:21:38,460 just a couple of years broken the 466 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:41,250 treasom a Premiership even if it now 467 00:21:38,460 --> 00:21:44,520 survives the day it's broken everyone 468 00:21:41,250 --> 00:21:49,350 can see she's a dead woman walking 469 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:53,460 but now if he loses tonight as we assume 470 00:21:49,350 --> 00:21:57,540 he will a hundred Labour MPs that is to 471 00:21:53,460 --> 00:22:00,179 say 40% of this strength are going to 472 00:21:57,540 --> 00:22:04,020 pivot according to Sky News as Beth 473 00:22:00,179 --> 00:22:08,130 Rigby and begin a demand for a second 474 00:22:04,020 --> 00:22:10,980 referendum now you and I both know 65% 475 00:22:08,130 --> 00:22:14,850 of labour held constituencies voted 476 00:22:10,980 --> 00:22:18,150 leave in the referendum 75% of the 477 00:22:14,850 --> 00:22:20,880 marginal seats that they need to win to 478 00:22:18,150 --> 00:22:24,990 form a government voted leave in the 479 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:27,690 referendum if Labour know becomes the 480 00:22:24,990 --> 00:22:29,880 anti brexit party which is what a second 481 00:22:27,690 --> 00:22:33,660 referendum party will look like and will 482 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:34,410 be perceived as Corbin's over no 483 00:22:33,660 --> 00:22:36,330 absolutely 484 00:22:34,410 --> 00:22:38,100 it's it I mean I agree with you he's 485 00:22:36,330 --> 00:22:39,510 played a blinder was discussing this as 486 00:22:38,100 --> 00:22:41,840 we were watching a pan out last night 487 00:22:39,510 --> 00:22:44,280 was discussing this with Nicola and 488 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:47,670 everything has gone according to plan 489 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:50,340 for him and from very soberly on last 490 00:22:47,670 --> 00:22:54,270 year up until the tail end of 2020 a 491 00:22:50,340 --> 00:22:57,270 team when he was pushing back against 492 00:22:54,270 --> 00:22:59,460 the force from the the Blair right 493 00:22:57,270 --> 00:23:02,040 moderates in his party to call her the 494 00:22:59,460 --> 00:23:04,380 confidence votes then he held firm 495 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:06,510 knowing that the right time the best 496 00:23:04,380 --> 00:23:09,660 time as you say with the cards he has 497 00:23:06,510 --> 00:23:11,550 would be after the votes on the actual 498 00:23:09,660 --> 00:23:11,970 deal itself and it has gone according to 499 00:23:11,550 --> 00:23:16,320 clan 500 00:23:11,970 --> 00:23:18,660 but as you also say with your card 501 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:20,640 analogy it was never going to be perfect 502 00:23:18,660 --> 00:23:22,260 anyway because there was always going to 503 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,300 be this chance of announcing play out 504 00:23:22,260 --> 00:23:27,360 there to the confidence vote would be a 505 00:23:24,300 --> 00:23:29,040 fairly null and void exercise that you 506 00:23:27,360 --> 00:23:30,960 wouldn't win it but you're correct that 507 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:33,600 it's going to put labour in a right 508 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:35,850 pickle now not least as you say the 509 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:39,000 people's foe but not leastly contingent 510 00:23:35,850 --> 00:23:41,850 of that Blair right moderate emunah 511 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:43,770 wing who will now go Corbin's failed 512 00:23:41,850 --> 00:23:46,679 again Corbin's failed again we need a 513 00:23:43,770 --> 00:23:49,740 new leader yeah or I'll leave maybe that 514 00:23:46,679 --> 00:23:52,620 is another another possible outcome of 515 00:23:49,740 --> 00:23:55,230 all this is the Tories become to parties 516 00:23:52,620 --> 00:23:56,700 and labor becomes to party possibly yeah 517 00:23:55,230 --> 00:23:57,389 I mean the thing is that the sort of 518 00:23:56,700 --> 00:23:59,429 coals 519 00:23:57,389 --> 00:24:01,139 for proportional representation the 520 00:23:59,429 --> 00:24:04,609 complete change to our voting system in 521 00:24:01,139 --> 00:24:07,169 this country growing the labor the 522 00:24:04,609 --> 00:24:08,969 Corbin MacDonald etc of a gang made 523 00:24:07,169 --> 00:24:10,919 noises off towards being in favor of 524 00:24:08,969 --> 00:24:14,549 proportional representation if these two 525 00:24:10,919 --> 00:24:16,529 main parties did splits the Comoros then 526 00:24:14,549 --> 00:24:20,579 it would become yeah it would hang have 527 00:24:16,529 --> 00:24:21,869 to happen if you like I will happen I 528 00:24:20,579 --> 00:24:25,799 mean I've been banging on about this for 529 00:24:21,869 --> 00:24:28,139 several years now we can't I mean 530 00:24:25,799 --> 00:24:30,979 because I wanted so much you know one 531 00:24:28,139 --> 00:24:34,320 shouldn't allow that to be the father of 532 00:24:30,979 --> 00:24:36,719 expectation but it is definitely a 533 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:39,149 possible outcome so for example if 534 00:24:36,719 --> 00:24:41,639 Corbin now disappoints them and says no 535 00:24:39,149 --> 00:24:43,739 no I'm still not going for a so-called 536 00:24:41,639 --> 00:24:48,389 people's vote I call it the Waitrose 537 00:24:43,739 --> 00:24:50,940 vote if if Corbin says no mrs. Thatcher 538 00:24:48,389 --> 00:24:53,219 had seven goals are no confidence motion 539 00:24:50,940 --> 00:24:56,909 in James Callaghan before she eventually 540 00:24:53,219 --> 00:25:01,529 brought him down and we're prepared to 541 00:24:56,909 --> 00:25:06,469 go seventeen and if he says that what 542 00:25:01,529 --> 00:25:09,859 are these 100 plus Labour MPs do do they 543 00:25:06,469 --> 00:25:13,889 stage of coup which is one possibility 544 00:25:09,859 --> 00:25:15,599 do they effectively overthrow Corbin as 545 00:25:13,889 --> 00:25:19,049 the leader or at least of the 546 00:25:15,599 --> 00:25:22,229 parliamentary Labour Party and say I now 547 00:25:19,049 --> 00:25:24,629 choke omona speak for more MPs than 548 00:25:22,229 --> 00:25:28,859 Jeremy Corbyn does therefore the speaker 549 00:25:24,629 --> 00:25:30,269 must recognise me as the leader of the 550 00:25:28,859 --> 00:25:32,940 Opposition that's one possibility 551 00:25:30,269 --> 00:25:35,669 another is an organic split and the 552 00:25:32,940 --> 00:25:39,809 launch of the long-awaited new Emunah 553 00:25:35,669 --> 00:25:42,329 party good luck with that they've got 554 00:25:39,809 --> 00:25:48,329 plenty of money but that is about all I 555 00:25:42,329 --> 00:25:50,129 think so pickle is a pickle for everyone 556 00:25:48,329 --> 00:25:52,379 yes and of course this is out and by the 557 00:25:50,129 --> 00:25:54,599 way the clock ticking were and I leave 558 00:25:52,379 --> 00:25:57,899 if nothing else happens we leave in 559 00:25:54,599 --> 00:26:00,479 about 70 days and the biggest pickle in 560 00:25:57,899 --> 00:26:04,279 all of this George really for me is as 561 00:26:00,479 --> 00:26:07,979 well I mean firstly in spite of brexit 562 00:26:04,279 --> 00:26:09,749 the the UK continues to trot along on 563 00:26:07,979 --> 00:26:10,980 this demonic course which the Tories 564 00:26:09,749 --> 00:26:13,139 have set us on 565 00:26:10,980 --> 00:26:15,570 amazing that in the midst of all this 566 00:26:13,139 --> 00:26:17,460 were still talking about interfering 567 00:26:15,570 --> 00:26:19,080 with other people in the rest of the 568 00:26:17,460 --> 00:26:21,929 world and they're sending warships 569 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:24,899 opening bases exactly we can't even pay 570 00:26:21,929 --> 00:26:27,870 our collective electricity bill exactly 571 00:26:24,899 --> 00:26:32,760 and if you see pike in the week 572 00:26:27,870 --> 00:26:34,710 don't touch yes yes that kind of I mean 573 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:37,110 we should have bought and I was talking 574 00:26:34,710 --> 00:26:40,139 about the cabinet actually yes so moving 575 00:26:37,110 --> 00:26:42,929 or forgot about him I know Gavin Gavin 576 00:26:40,139 --> 00:26:46,830 Williamson yeah hopeless seals moving on 577 00:26:42,929 --> 00:26:48,269 as yes so Gavin Williamson this was 578 00:26:46,830 --> 00:26:52,470 reported this week the Kathleen 579 00:26:48,269 --> 00:26:55,470 Williamson maddest story 580 00:26:52,470 --> 00:26:57,419 Gavin Williamson told a Ministry of 581 00:26:55,470 --> 00:27:01,470 Defense meeting that one of the options 582 00:26:57,419 --> 00:27:03,750 he had in mind with regards to these if 583 00:27:01,470 --> 00:27:07,380 you like policing it was Joe Bravo our 584 00:27:03,750 --> 00:27:11,220 Spanish in Spanish intrusion our waters 585 00:27:07,380 --> 00:27:13,289 of speed off stop spy I mean if that's 586 00:27:11,220 --> 00:27:14,639 not nonsense enough I'm not sure what is 587 00:27:13,289 --> 00:27:18,269 but what if the solution Gilbert and 588 00:27:14,639 --> 00:27:21,120 Sullivan one of the intrusions into our 589 00:27:18,269 --> 00:27:23,279 waters by the Spanish would be arming 590 00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:25,500 all the citizens of Gibraltar with 591 00:27:23,279 --> 00:27:28,049 paintball guns and allowing them to 592 00:27:25,500 --> 00:27:28,529 blast Spanish ships they're not making 593 00:27:28,049 --> 00:27:30,299 that up 594 00:27:28,529 --> 00:27:32,639 I'm not making you up it's the most 595 00:27:30,299 --> 00:27:34,380 Latin particular thing I've said that 596 00:27:32,639 --> 00:27:37,230 the general and yeah in the presence of 597 00:27:34,380 --> 00:27:39,210 generals but he leaked it yeah yes 598 00:27:37,230 --> 00:27:41,460 and which which is very telling in 599 00:27:39,210 --> 00:27:42,630 itself though on a serious note I mean 600 00:27:41,460 --> 00:27:44,639 that's quite you have an aircraft 601 00:27:42,630 --> 00:27:48,870 carrier with no aircraft so why not 602 00:27:44,639 --> 00:27:51,269 pimple no no exactly so the Spanish Navy 603 00:27:48,870 --> 00:27:54,659 banished ships would be going around 604 00:27:51,269 --> 00:27:57,870 carrying the hallmark of Britain yeah a 605 00:27:54,659 --> 00:27:59,730 paintball on their hulls but of course 606 00:27:57,870 --> 00:28:02,130 everything it's just it's just 607 00:27:59,730 --> 00:28:03,720 absolutely mad it is again it's like how 608 00:28:02,130 --> 00:28:05,669 it carry on film of course the other 609 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,049 more serious note on that was he was 610 00:28:05,669 --> 00:28:10,769 talking about sending a British 611 00:28:07,049 --> 00:28:15,299 destroyer into the area to monitor I 612 00:28:10,769 --> 00:28:18,269 mean what it's the fact I don't know 613 00:28:15,299 --> 00:28:21,820 just bacon I know I don't descent one to 614 00:28:18,269 --> 00:28:23,590 the Azov sea into Russian what 615 00:28:21,820 --> 00:28:25,720 although I predict that it will not 616 00:28:23,590 --> 00:28:27,489 actually go into Russian water because I 617 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:30,519 predict the Russian would sink it if it 618 00:28:27,489 --> 00:28:33,039 did he sent one to the South China Sea s 619 00:28:30,519 --> 00:28:37,210 of course being in the name 620 00:28:33,039 --> 00:28:38,320 he's got assets as they call them in the 621 00:28:37,210 --> 00:28:42,099 Persian Gulf 622 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:44,590 again the clue being in the name and now 623 00:28:42,099 --> 00:28:48,820 he's talking about sending one to Spain 624 00:28:44,590 --> 00:28:51,039 our our EU partner our NATO ally and 625 00:28:48,820 --> 00:28:53,259 this is the point because as we 626 00:28:51,039 --> 00:28:55,960 discussed previously that they did may 627 00:28:53,259 --> 00:28:58,599 as surrounded herself by absolute 628 00:28:55,960 --> 00:29:02,139 dollard's in her cabinets so on the one 629 00:28:58,599 --> 00:29:04,239 hand you have a situation where now 630 00:29:02,139 --> 00:29:06,879 where Theresa May and the Conservative 631 00:29:04,239 --> 00:29:10,679 government's are effectively reliant on 632 00:29:06,879 --> 00:29:14,139 the EU to give way in somewhat to 633 00:29:10,679 --> 00:29:17,859 sustain them as a governing party in 634 00:29:14,139 --> 00:29:20,379 this country with the mess in one of the 635 00:29:17,859 --> 00:29:24,059 main countries of the EU with splatter 636 00:29:20,379 --> 00:29:28,179 guns like out something out Bugsy Malone 637 00:29:24,059 --> 00:29:30,639 that would be better I'm alone yes tommy 638 00:29:28,179 --> 00:29:34,599 gun or you can't be anything that wait 639 00:29:30,639 --> 00:29:36,879 warnings up baby I'm hiring firing cream 640 00:29:34,599 --> 00:29:38,799 pies so it was exactly so you're 641 00:29:36,879 --> 00:29:42,039 threatening one of the main countries in 642 00:29:38,799 --> 00:29:43,840 the EU while in the other hands 643 00:29:42,039 --> 00:29:45,729 desperately needing them to come on 644 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,950 board to save your own skin 645 00:29:45,729 --> 00:29:51,070 I mean you literally couldn't make this 646 00:29:47,950 --> 00:29:53,440 up and as I said before it highlights 647 00:29:51,070 --> 00:29:55,629 that sham of our democracy in this 648 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,669 country that we're even in this position 649 00:29:55,629 --> 00:29:59,799 to start with those we I mean what we 650 00:29:57,669 --> 00:30:03,070 didn't discuss that came out last week 651 00:29:59,799 --> 00:30:04,950 was the fact that one Margaret little 652 00:30:03,070 --> 00:30:08,169 would I believe had that Margaret 653 00:30:04,950 --> 00:30:09,940 Margaret someone rather was charged with 654 00:30:08,169 --> 00:30:13,239 and was found guilty of electoral fraud 655 00:30:09,940 --> 00:30:14,739 um in famous and by the Electoral 656 00:30:13,239 --> 00:30:16,029 Commission oh yes she was found guilty 657 00:30:14,739 --> 00:30:19,359 of labor for two years suspended 658 00:30:16,029 --> 00:30:21,549 sentence but let off and the judge said 659 00:30:19,359 --> 00:30:24,549 that there was a culture of deception 660 00:30:21,549 --> 00:30:25,989 within parts of the conservative party 661 00:30:24,549 --> 00:30:28,419 but once again why this was of course 662 00:30:25,989 --> 00:30:30,399 the culmination of this nearly two years 663 00:30:28,419 --> 00:30:32,679 of investigation by the Electoral 664 00:30:30,399 --> 00:30:34,000 Commission into dozens of this was the 665 00:30:32,679 --> 00:30:37,060 shop ending in the 666 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:42,100 shop to Nigel Farage defeat yes on it 667 00:30:37,060 --> 00:30:46,450 where you kept 126 council seats but on 668 00:30:42,100 --> 00:30:48,970 the same day Nigel Farage MP rather I 669 00:30:46,450 --> 00:30:51,130 remember thinking at the time if I was 670 00:30:48,970 --> 00:30:51,700 for a I'd be I'd be going to court oh 671 00:30:51,130 --> 00:30:54,700 yeah 672 00:30:51,700 --> 00:30:57,910 and so and this was the end results of 673 00:30:54,700 --> 00:30:59,290 not only Thane at South but also every 674 00:30:57,910 --> 00:31:02,470 other investigation was having the 675 00:30:59,290 --> 00:31:04,240 country that one lone woman who was 676 00:31:02,470 --> 00:31:06,610 effectively just a sort of campaign 677 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:08,950 board if you like was the only person 678 00:31:06,610 --> 00:31:10,720 the whole Conservative Party who was 679 00:31:08,950 --> 00:31:14,470 found guilty of any form of electoral 680 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:16,630 fraud now my point being that as I say 681 00:31:14,470 --> 00:31:18,130 this is the Sham of the democracy that 682 00:31:16,630 --> 00:31:20,140 we live in in this country regardless 683 00:31:18,130 --> 00:31:22,810 what you think of the rules surrounding 684 00:31:20,140 --> 00:31:24,670 electoral spending they're effectively 685 00:31:22,810 --> 00:31:25,870 the Conservatives did get away with 686 00:31:24,670 --> 00:31:27,130 because they were found to have 687 00:31:25,870 --> 00:31:29,260 overspent they can get away with 688 00:31:27,130 --> 00:31:31,540 overspending and the 2015 general 689 00:31:29,260 --> 00:31:33,640 election nothing is done about it and if 690 00:31:31,540 --> 00:31:35,470 it hadn't been for that overspending we 691 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,520 might have been in a very different 692 00:31:35,470 --> 00:31:38,500 position in that election 693 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,910 ed Miliband could one for we know I mean 694 00:31:38,500 --> 00:31:41,650 I'm not saying it could have happened I 695 00:31:39,910 --> 00:31:43,390 don't think it would have but the 696 00:31:41,650 --> 00:31:44,950 proposition is there that Ed Miliband 697 00:31:43,390 --> 00:31:47,680 could have won and we wouldn't even be 698 00:31:44,950 --> 00:31:49,810 discussing brexit today how I mean this 699 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:52,120 is the absolute all those things are 700 00:31:49,810 --> 00:31:55,600 overlooked I was on a wheel that the 701 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:58,830 case had finished never go that yes but 702 00:31:55,600 --> 00:32:03,130 there are lots of things been overlooked 703 00:31:58,830 --> 00:32:10,200 homeless people are dying of the cold in 704 00:32:03,130 --> 00:32:13,330 doorways sheriff in Dundee my yesterday 705 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:16,740 refused the sentence a woman caught 706 00:32:13,330 --> 00:32:18,580 nicking food from Marks and Spencer 707 00:32:16,740 --> 00:32:21,040 while you still can 708 00:32:18,580 --> 00:32:23,920 as they've just announced the rafters 709 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:28,000 rising he refused the sentence are 710 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:31,840 because he was persuaded that she was 711 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:36,640 stealing food to eat as being the only 712 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:38,920 alternative to starvation and that's 713 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:42,520 quite a Rubicon you know when a Berwick 714 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:47,260 judge says this woman is living on 715 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:51,130 ninety pounds a month that is impossible 716 00:32:47,260 --> 00:32:54,010 therefore it ceases to be a crime in the 717 00:32:51,130 --> 00:32:57,850 normal sense of the world to steal food 718 00:32:54,010 --> 00:33:02,910 in order to avoid starving to death it's 719 00:32:57,850 --> 00:33:07,360 quite oppressive in Britain in 2019 720 00:33:02,910 --> 00:33:11,500 unemployment redundancies closures 721 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:14,200 what a mess we're in is and and this is 722 00:33:11,500 --> 00:33:16,630 to be honest with you George this is my 723 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:19,150 overall issue with brexit while I'm 724 00:33:16,630 --> 00:33:20,890 happy to I have to be honest well I'm 725 00:33:19,150 --> 00:33:22,600 happy to sit and talk about it because 726 00:33:20,890 --> 00:33:25,780 it is of course it's important rather 727 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:29,830 than oh it's not important but up until 728 00:33:25,780 --> 00:33:32,290 this point everything has been in spite 729 00:33:29,830 --> 00:33:34,630 of brexit and as I've repeatedly said I 730 00:33:32,290 --> 00:33:36,490 think this whole decades even if you 731 00:33:34,630 --> 00:33:38,260 take brexit out of the equation this 732 00:33:36,490 --> 00:33:41,470 whole decade what has happened what has 733 00:33:38,260 --> 00:33:44,830 gone on the left-wing response over the 734 00:33:41,470 --> 00:33:46,480 course of the past eight years not just 735 00:33:44,830 --> 00:33:47,710 looking at Corbin's response in a 736 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,530 nutshell but you have to look at the 737 00:33:47,710 --> 00:33:52,480 less leftist one since 2010 history is 738 00:33:50,530 --> 00:33:55,179 not going to view us kindly this decades 739 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:58,330 because I literally wrote an article on 740 00:33:55,179 --> 00:34:00,640 Monday which no one picked up on and 741 00:33:58,330 --> 00:34:01,990 everyone ignored it until I wrote it and 742 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,400 then suddenly all the mainstream press 743 00:34:01,990 --> 00:34:03,880 decided to pick up on it and run with 744 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:08,399 this 745 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:11,710 that's from April 2013 to April 2018 746 00:34:08,399 --> 00:34:13,419 21,000 claimants died waiting for the 747 00:34:11,710 --> 00:34:16,389 DWP to make a decision over their 748 00:34:13,419 --> 00:34:20,220 benefits this is not my figures systems 749 00:34:16,389 --> 00:34:23,470 DWP's they had to admit this after 750 00:34:20,220 --> 00:34:25,419 Madeleine moon Labour MP asked a 751 00:34:23,470 --> 00:34:27,639 parliamentary question 21,000 people 752 00:34:25,419 --> 00:34:29,169 died before the DWP made the decision 753 00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:31,419 whether or not they were entitled to any 754 00:34:29,169 --> 00:34:34,629 money whatsoever now of this nearly 755 00:34:31,419 --> 00:34:37,659 5,000 of them at work answer patients 756 00:34:34,629 --> 00:34:39,700 who the DWP literally left waiting for 757 00:34:37,659 --> 00:34:41,560 money even though they had cancer and 758 00:34:39,700 --> 00:34:43,389 yet the DWP thought well knowing we need 759 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,710 to you need to have an assessment we 760 00:34:43,389 --> 00:34:47,440 need to check that you're actually ill 761 00:34:44,710 --> 00:34:50,950 enough to warrant us giving you some 762 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:53,260 pennies 9,000 didn't even have their 763 00:34:50,950 --> 00:34:55,450 illness registered with the DWP which my 764 00:34:53,260 --> 00:34:56,889 interpretation was that the DWP a drag 765 00:34:55,450 --> 00:34:58,780 their heels with their claims so long it 766 00:34:56,889 --> 00:35:00,790 hadn't even got to that stage where they 767 00:34:58,780 --> 00:35:02,200 were assessed to find out what the deed 768 00:35:00,790 --> 00:35:05,080 thought was actually wrong with them and 769 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,700 this is in spite of brexit and I put out 770 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:11,050 a tweet last night and I stand by this 771 00:35:06,700 --> 00:35:13,990 tweet though in 20 years time when poor 772 00:35:11,050 --> 00:35:16,120 sick disabled homeless people are living 773 00:35:13,990 --> 00:35:18,580 off soup kitchens in slums because we 774 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:21,160 have not dealt with the mess outside of 775 00:35:18,580 --> 00:35:22,750 the brexit debacle we will look back at 776 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,550 this whole situation and wonder what the 777 00:35:22,750 --> 00:35:27,340 hell we were getting ourselves and such 778 00:35:24,550 --> 00:35:29,410 knots about because regardless of brexit 779 00:35:27,340 --> 00:35:32,620 gorge regardless of Rex's what I call 780 00:35:29,410 --> 00:35:35,530 the corporatist machine will carry on 781 00:35:32,620 --> 00:35:37,570 regardless because it has kept only only 782 00:35:35,530 --> 00:35:41,020 if we elect governments do or do that 783 00:35:37,570 --> 00:35:43,420 but this is at least if we by the way 784 00:35:41,020 --> 00:35:45,940 all of that misery that you just saw 785 00:35:43,420 --> 00:35:47,980 eloquently described happened when we 786 00:35:45,940 --> 00:35:51,700 were in the European yes 787 00:35:47,980 --> 00:35:54,820 the point about brixi is it allows us to 788 00:35:51,700 --> 00:35:56,980 be free to elect a different kind of 789 00:35:54,820 --> 00:36:00,100 government to bring about a different 790 00:35:56,980 --> 00:36:04,840 kind of society at this moment whilst 791 00:36:00,100 --> 00:36:09,460 we're in the EU we are nailed nailed on 792 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:12,220 to a cross which says we must have a 793 00:36:09,460 --> 00:36:14,680 market economy well I don't want a 794 00:36:12,220 --> 00:36:17,560 market economy the market economy is 795 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:19,390 what led to all of that miseries that 796 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:22,540 you've just described we're being told 797 00:36:19,390 --> 00:36:25,180 to wrap up so I've been George Galloway 798 00:36:22,540 --> 00:36:27,550 I have been Steve duffel together we've 799 00:36:25,180 --> 00:36:30,760 been toppled Galloway follow us on 800 00:36:27,550 --> 00:36:33,400 twitter at mr. topple at George Galloway 801 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:37,000 come and see us in Neath in the Gwyn 802 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:39,510 Hall and if not tune in next week at the 803 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,510 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