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David Cameron has allegedly stopped Nick

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cleg from appearing in a head-to-head TV

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election debate with Ed millerand as he

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doesn't want to be the only one who's

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absent while Ed millerand is still

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calling for Cameron to take him on one

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party has not been invited to discuss

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its views in the runup to the election

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respect joining me now as its MP and

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leader George

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Galloway George welcome to Going

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Underground welcome back now you have a

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show on RT so let's keep this as

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impartial ofcom impartial as as possible

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what exactly is respect offering that's

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different to some of the other parties

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Tusk and left Unity the greens well uh

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apart from in the latter case very much

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higher profile and track record of

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winning elections if I'm reelected in

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Bradford that will be the third respect

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victory over labor in a parliamentary

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poll no one in the whole history of the

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left in Britain has ever done that or

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even done it twice so uh our profile our

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standing our ability to win elections

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and to use the spaces and platforms that

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we thereby secure uh to good effect uh I

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don't think even my worst enemy would

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say that I haven't made good use of the

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time that I get of the platforms that I

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get as a result of winning elections so

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that's why we are in the Democratic race

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why we fought hard right up to the point

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of judicial review to get on the prime

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ministerial debates you mentioned the

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green party they have one MP so do we

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she's been in 5 years I've been in

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almost 30 years so if the green party

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could get on the prime ministerial

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debates we figured that we should uh to

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being you're not you're not on the

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debate then no because we can't afford

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the judicial review it's uh would be

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tens of thousands of pounds but we

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fought it right up to that point and

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credibly uh with the support of uh uh

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big fig in the broadcasting field

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because the logic was unassailable but

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it didn't work okay well on on the

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success argument you you have been

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successful then isn't it that very

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success that damages Progressive forces

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in constituencies up and down the

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country because you'll be splitting the

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progressive vote George Momo left

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respect as far as I understand it

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because you were standing candidates

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against the greens well we tried

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actually to get uh an electoral

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agreement with the greens at that very

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time wasn't us that turned it down but

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them uh so of course uh we're ready

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where someone has a better chance than

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us to uh step aside but that doesn't

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happen often mean you mentioned Tusk the

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Elvis loves pets party defeated Tusk

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into bottom place in a recent uh local

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Authority byelection sure but they

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themselves they would defend themselves

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by saying CA was around at the same kind

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of level four years ago before it

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defeated the labor party I'm not

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sure I'm not sure the Elvis love pets

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party would ever have defeated CA but

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anyway each to their own uh we have

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different uh political uh ideas from

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these other organizations and above all

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we have a different approach okay but

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then uh we know the parties of the left

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uh are a bit like the Elis party history

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a legacy of splits and division right

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across the decades uh in this country

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you have had huge splits going on in

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respect councilors

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resigning how can uh voters think that

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when they're voting respect there's not

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going to be a mass of splits and

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division well of course the as uh as

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we're on Russian television one can

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quote Lenin uh who talked about the

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narcissism of the small difference it's

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true that on the left small differences

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magnified uh to the point of division

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and that's a historical trait being on

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the left is a

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fissiparous uh business you uh

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everything every Nuance every Dot and

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comma matters to you people on the left

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tend not to be broad brush uh political

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uh figures but we have one uh more than

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25 I think it's 27 in fact uh local

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government elections I've been elected

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to Parliament as a respect candidate

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twice and I'm confident that I will be

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in just a few weeks time so as I say

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there's absolutely no one can touch that

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or even come remotely close to it

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another history of the uh the the left

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is covert monitoring by institutions we

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know the green party has been

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infiltrated by agent security services

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how do you at respect make sure that the

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same thing isn't going to happen to your

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party must be a boring job monitoring

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the green party that would certainly be

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the equivalent of being well actually it

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was quite serious

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casor and the and the famous power

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station in Siberia uh I I think uh all

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Progressive organizations have been

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infiltrated at one time or another

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including I have no doubt us and some of

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the splits and divisions that you refer

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to uh may be connected to that but uh

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the only thing you can do to quote Bob

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Dylan is keep on keeping on you might

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think that me I thought that was the

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Redskins no that was afterwards okay

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well look the media uh very much sees

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you as personifying the respect party

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they don't appear to like you that much

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they maybe they don't need infiltration

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is it impossible for a fourth party with

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genuine Progressive views to get their

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message across in the media in this

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gener uh in the media as was of course

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we have a a new media now and we're

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sitting on it and it's attracting uh

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viewers by the million from the old

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media uh I myself present no less than

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three television programs a week okay

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but Their audience figures are not like

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question it's not pman telling you to be

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ashamed of your victory in Bradford or

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dimbleby getting a bunch of it's true

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but the balance is changing your

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position on Scotland do you think uh

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north of the Border respect will have

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been damaged by the fact that you

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supported the Tories and the labor party

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uh well I wouldn't put it quite that way

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I if if by that you mean I took the same

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side as most Scottish people uh I'm not

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sure that it follows uh logically uh the

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Tories are uh a part of Scotland a very

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small part I didn't share any platforms

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with them said that I wouldn't but I

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make no apology for being with labor I

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was with labor for almost 40 years

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before I was expelled I'm still a labor

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man uh at heart uh and labor represents

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the workingclass idea that it's class

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rather than nationality that matters

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what are relations like between Ed

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Miller man's labor party and you and the

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respect party I've heard it's getting

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pretty uh Angry in Bradford with some

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labor campaigners campaigning for

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respect yes there are a lot of Divisions

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and because we haunt labor as a ghost of

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what they used to be standing for what

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they used to stand for and standing for

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the people they have abandoned in many

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respects then that's a recipe for uh

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bitterness back to this narcissism of

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the small difference we are the real

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labor party that's what we say we're the

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labor party as was before Tony Blair and

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Peter mandelson and Gordon Brown and

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alist Campbell hijacked it and flew it

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to destruction as a labor party it was

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still able to win elections and so on

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but not as a labor party so that's what

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happens there are bitter fights people

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defect to us just had a very prominent

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labor figure in Bradford defect to us uh

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and uh this uh process will continue

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after the election if Ed Milan gets in

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and he's in want of one vote as a

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majority and I'm that one vote well I'm

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praying nightly that he requires one

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vote I'm that vote and I'm open to a

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negotiation every night at 700 p.m. and

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I have a long list of foreign National

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and uh uh domestic uh local matters that

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I'm prepared to trade in return for my

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one but will you trade I mean presumably

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red lines maybe Parliament moving to

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leads which I think is a respect policy

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he'll be easy with that but on uh

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Trident and on finally the economy uh

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the economy is respects the the city of

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London having to be completely

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transformed of a respect party was in

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Coalition well we will stand in the

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London miral elections in 2016 and that

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will be the first uh of our policy

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platforms to change the the way that the

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city of London operates within London uh

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as a whole now of course there are big

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differences between me and Ed Mand on

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the economy on things like Russia things

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like Israel Palestine Trident and many

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many things but you can only have the

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best government of those that are

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available and any labor government is

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going to be better than any Tor

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government for the overwhelmingly poor

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and workingclass people that I represent

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George Galloway thank you pleasure