1 00:00:00,060 --> 00:00:06,899 we'll be able to skim over the next 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:11,480 period which was in a way uninteresting 3 00:00:06,899 --> 00:00:14,580 though I had skin in the game as it were 4 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:19,529 as a friend or benazir bhutto but you 5 00:00:14,580 --> 00:00:22,199 had a Tweedledee Tweedledum period where 6 00:00:19,529 --> 00:00:25,170 the Americans were controlling both 7 00:00:22,199 --> 00:00:27,960 parties the army was actually really 8 00:00:25,170 --> 00:00:31,230 running the country with a civilian 9 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:33,030 facade Nawaz Sharif is either in the 10 00:00:31,230 --> 00:00:35,550 Prime Minister's house or in the 11 00:00:33,030 --> 00:00:39,780 jailhouse Benazir Bhutto's in the Prime 12 00:00:35,550 --> 00:00:41,190 Minister house or in the jailhouse but a 13 00:00:39,780 --> 00:00:44,879 new figure 14 00:00:41,190 --> 00:00:45,420 now comes on the scene and it's your 15 00:00:44,879 --> 00:00:49,469 friend 16 00:00:45,420 --> 00:00:51,960 Imran Khan tell us what he represents he 17 00:00:49,469 --> 00:00:54,809 represents what is called Naya Pakistan 18 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:56,820 new Pakistan and when he came to 19 00:00:54,809 --> 00:00:59,699 prominence as a political figure after 20 00:00:56,820 --> 00:01:01,770 years and years of being a sporting hero 21 00:00:59,699 --> 00:01:05,939 for all Pakistan he's and beyond 22 00:01:01,770 --> 00:01:08,220 Imran Khan started his PTI party in 1996 23 00:01:05,939 --> 00:01:09,600 and while the tweedledum that was Nawaz 24 00:01:08,220 --> 00:01:11,520 Sharif and the Tweedledee 25 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,170 that was benazir bhutto a very different 26 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:15,659 creature from her father I might add a 27 00:01:13,170 --> 00:01:17,520 good woman but one whose marriage did 28 00:01:15,659 --> 00:01:19,140 her more harm than good or put it that 29 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,610 way and everyone in Pakistan will know 30 00:01:19,140 --> 00:01:23,670 exactly what I mean 31 00:01:20,610 --> 00:01:26,580 Imran came trying to offer a third way 32 00:01:23,670 --> 00:01:29,009 that was very skeptical of an alliance 33 00:01:26,580 --> 00:01:31,290 with the United States skeptical of 34 00:01:29,009 --> 00:01:33,780 getting into these entangling conflicts 35 00:01:31,290 --> 00:01:36,689 on either side of Pakistan supporters 36 00:01:33,780 --> 00:01:39,240 and he promulgated a notion of neo 37 00:01:36,689 --> 00:01:42,360 non-alignment a third economic way 38 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:45,119 between the crony feudal capitalism of 39 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:47,399 the late 60s and the nationalizations 40 00:01:45,119 --> 00:01:50,040 of the mid 70s he was essentially 41 00:01:47,399 --> 00:01:52,829 someone who wanted to do for Pakistan 42 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:55,740 what dong shall ping did for China he 43 00:01:52,829 --> 00:01:57,750 had a very difficult road to travel no 44 00:01:55,740 --> 00:02:00,479 one in the 90s ever thought that he had 45 00:01:57,750 --> 00:02:03,780 any chance of ever going anywhere near 46 00:02:00,479 --> 00:02:07,079 the Government of Pakistan let alone the 47 00:02:03,780 --> 00:02:08,610 leading opposition but Pakistan had to 48 00:02:07,079 --> 00:02:10,860 learn the hard way that it would take 49 00:02:08,610 --> 00:02:13,230 someone like Imran who rejected the 50 00:02:10,860 --> 00:02:13,440 Shibboleth of the post who rejected the 51 00:02:13,230 --> 00:02:15,570 No 52 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:17,760 that Pakistan will always be caught into 53 00:02:15,570 --> 00:02:19,920 this matrix bouncing back and forth 54 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:22,380 between China and the United States 55 00:02:19,920 --> 00:02:24,360 being pushed and pulled on both sides by 56 00:02:22,380 --> 00:02:27,090 a hostile New Delhi government and a 57 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:29,850 hostile kabul government he said we can 58 00:02:27,090 --> 00:02:32,310 do better and in 1999 things actually 59 00:02:29,850 --> 00:02:34,440 got worse because the third military 60 00:02:32,310 --> 00:02:37,140 coup took place when pervez musharraf 61 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:41,190 took over after a failed war with India 62 00:02:37,140 --> 00:02:45,090 in 1999 eventually the parliamentary 63 00:02:41,190 --> 00:02:47,760 system was once again restored in 2008 a 64 00:02:45,090 --> 00:02:49,950 year after the assassination of Benazir 65 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,900 Bhutto who whatever one thinks of her 66 00:02:49,950 --> 00:02:55,340 politics or her marriage it was a sad 67 00:02:51,900 --> 00:02:57,810 day for Pakistan but now that we're in 68 00:02:55,340 --> 00:03:01,380 2018 we've got to reflect on what's 69 00:02:57,810 --> 00:03:01,640 happened since 2001 up to the present 70 00:03:01,380 --> 00:03:04,770 day 71 00:03:01,640 --> 00:03:08,160 Pakistan has fought and won the biggest 72 00:03:04,770 --> 00:03:10,080 war against terrorism in history the 73 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:13,230 u.s. war that was unleashed in 74 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:15,390 Afghanistan in 2001 led to not only 75 00:03:13,230 --> 00:03:18,660 refugees but to terrorists of all 76 00:03:15,390 --> 00:03:21,570 stripes flying over the Durand Line like 77 00:03:18,660 --> 00:03:23,400 locusts fomenting extremism killing 78 00:03:21,570 --> 00:03:24,959 civilians the civilians that weren't 79 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:27,360 killed by terrorists were frequently 80 00:03:24,959 --> 00:03:29,790 killed by Bush and Obama's drone strikes 81 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:31,230 which didn't - always target the right 82 00:03:29,790 --> 00:03:33,959 target to put it mildly 83 00:03:31,230 --> 00:03:36,660 but because of the professionalism of 84 00:03:33,959 --> 00:03:39,420 the Pakistani army and of the eye aside 85 00:03:36,660 --> 00:03:42,870 the intelligence service terrorism was 86 00:03:39,420 --> 00:03:45,090 largely beaten back and in 2013 PTI 87 00:03:42,870 --> 00:03:48,570 formed a regional government this is 88 00:03:45,090 --> 00:03:51,350 Imran Khan in our party in in in Khyber 89 00:03:48,570 --> 00:03:53,640 Pakhtunkhwa in the former Northwest 90 00:03:51,350 --> 00:03:56,280 Territories of the country on Survivor 91 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:58,920 yes indeed the that most of the most 92 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:01,650 uncover noble part of Pakistan but Imran 93 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:05,070 and Pt I actually brought government 94 00:04:01,650 --> 00:04:07,890 good governance to this place and it got 95 00:04:05,070 --> 00:04:11,130 people thinking so our PTI boycotted the 96 00:04:07,890 --> 00:04:13,739 '08 election in 2013 they became a very 97 00:04:11,130 --> 00:04:16,290 viable national opposition party they 98 00:04:13,739 --> 00:04:18,359 became the leader in KP in the northwest 99 00:04:16,290 --> 00:04:19,320 and this led to 2018 100 00:04:18,359 --> 00:04:22,410 to what I would call the most 101 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:24,780 sensational election victory of anyone 102 00:04:22,410 --> 00:04:26,680 in Pakistani history but one of the most 103 00:04:24,780 --> 00:04:29,920 important of actions in 104 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:32,800 I do think that the rise of PTI ending 105 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:35,950 the dynastic battle between the pml-n 106 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:38,140 and PPP which both had lost their Sheen 107 00:04:35,950 --> 00:04:41,500 from rather more noble beginnings 108 00:04:38,140 --> 00:04:44,230 truly represents a country that has 109 00:04:41,500 --> 00:04:46,720 overcome conflict with India conflict 110 00:04:44,230 --> 00:04:48,280 with Afghanistan abuse from allies even 111 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:51,100 worse abuse from enemies 112 00:04:48,280 --> 00:04:53,740 it's overcome internal partition its 113 00:04:51,100 --> 00:04:56,200 overcome extremism flying in from other 114 00:04:53,740 --> 00:04:58,420 borders its overcome the foreign 115 00:04:56,200 --> 00:05:00,940 intelligence servants services of other 116 00:04:58,420 --> 00:05:03,160 countries funding extremism and now 117 00:05:00,940 --> 00:05:05,170 looks to the future to rebuild its 118 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:07,120 economy to strengthen its social 119 00:05:05,170 --> 00:05:09,670 cohesion and make new meaningful 120 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:12,730 partnerships across the umma the wider 121 00:05:09,670 --> 00:05:14,860 Islamic community and beyond so for a 122 00:05:12,730 --> 00:05:17,050 country that many thought couldn't exist 123 00:05:14,860 --> 00:05:19,390 a country that many thought wouldn't 124 00:05:17,050 --> 00:05:22,420 exist and the country that many have 125 00:05:19,390 --> 00:05:24,670 tried to cease existing I think that the 126 00:05:22,420 --> 00:05:27,430 future for Pakistan is not only bright 127 00:05:24,670 --> 00:05:29,410 but it shows a resilience which is more 128 00:05:27,430 --> 00:05:32,070 extraordinary than the most harrowing 129 00:05:29,410 --> 00:05:36,400 and inspirational tales of film or 130 00:05:32,070 --> 00:05:38,200 novels a rallying cry I think they'll be 131 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:41,200 interested in that amongst the general 132 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:44,110 public but perhaps amongst the Pakistani 133 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:45,220 public most of all Adam Garry thank you 134 00:05:44,110 --> 00:05:47,740 very much indeed 135 00:05:45,220 --> 00:05:50,380 I've been George Galloway I've been Adam 136 00:05:47,740 --> 00:05:51,040 Garrick together we have been their 137 00:05:50,380 --> 00:06:04,220 history boys 138 00:05:51,040 --> 00:06:04,220 [Music]